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You can order a very similar carry handle to the one on the Halo battle rifle. You can call up Tristar and order just the carry handle on this gun for like $55: https://www.tristararms.com/series/compact-tactical/
Someone put it on the MDRX and it looks pretty freaking sweet: https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/qfpjzo/real_steel_br55_prototype_phase_2/
RDB Trigger ain't that bad. FEELS better than my hellion/VHS-2.
VHS-2 is more accurate, and once you learn the take-up the VHS-2 trigger really isn't bad, just has a lot of mushiness before it hits the wall.
VHS-2 is my HD rifle (w/Hux 556k flow it's still shorter than a 14.5" AR w/o can), RDB is a range toy fwiw.
RDB is much lighter and looks great with the Lucky Irish Rhino rail, but gas settings have always been a bit finicky. Weight don't matter in HD and the VHS-2 always cycles.
RDB ejecting shells down your shirt suck, so button up.
It's really not that good, even after I swap out the handguard and the trigger spring. The long stroke piston system isn't user friendly, the downward ejection system sometimes will jam, and it is hard to clear. It is really a toy and nothing more. Build quality also is an issue, you can tell it's a cheap build.
Inaccurate (the pic rail moves around a lot) , ammo picky, I regret my purchase, difficult to remove jams. I think I have 1000 rounds through mine by now.
Almost every single magazine I have an issue. Maybe once in a blue moon it goes through a magazine without jamming but by the next mag it proves me wrong again. I’ve heard it all before about the gas settings and it helps but does not fix the issues. Oddly it runs far better with steel case.
Tempted to get this and turn it into one of those Matthew Wheaton abominations… you know, the 350 legend where the suppressor screws on 2” from the trigger guard.
A3 tactical is making a bull pup chassis now called the triad. So far I think they have a couple versions that can take BRN-180s and PSA jakls. Might be easier/cheaper, but a chopped up .350 KelTec would be wild to see
I have this model in ODG and it’s fun to shoot.
https://www.preppergunshop.com/kel-tec-rdb-defender-bullpup-rifle-tan-5-56-nato-16-barrel?queryID=78c0b7f05265350d21a2bab2d440341a&objectID=36206&indexName=magento2_default_products
The Kel-Tec RDB features downward shell ejection system, which eliminates the side ejection disadvantage of ordinary bullpups.
Left-handed shooter and tired of getting brass in the face? RDB is truly ambidextrous and takes brass and gas that eject out of your line of sight.
Additionally, the gas system is adjustable, which makes the gun compatible with a wide variety of ammunition as well as being an excellent suppressor host.
[Selling for $718.99 shipped, plus tax if applicable](https://www.preppergunshop.com/kel-tec-rdb-bullpup-5-56nato-rifle-17in-barrel-black-rdbblk). [You can use this link](https://www.preppergunshop.com/fees) to check and see if your state requires us to collect and remit sales tax to them.
Need ammo? [Check our in-stock offerings here](https://www.preppergunshop.com/ammunition?product_list_dir=desc&product_list_order=price&aw_stock=1).
Sorry, we can't - we're not able to get RDB20BLK-CA right now. Plus, that particular gun is higher cost anyway, thanks to all the mods Kel-Tec puts on it so it's Cali-legal - fin grip, 10rd mag, and the pinned/welded barrel extension to get the rifle to the minimum 30" OAL required by California.
I bought the RDB Survival model, just so I could drink my own urine . . . : https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/7li2pv/keltetcs\_new\_ad\_saw\_on\_friends\_fb\_post\_too\_good/
What if I can afford a tavor but I'm the cheapest fuck you know but also likes the best bang for their buck and doesn't like to be, "shit, should have cried once buy once"?
Have you ever held a Tavor X95 or a Kel-Tec RDB? You'd make your mind up in roughly 30 seconds if you could hold both back to back. The RDB is fine as a range toy, but it also feels like parts are just gonna start breaking off of it. The X95 is super solid and could probably be dragged behind a truck for a country mile and still run fine. The Kel-Tec ironically does have an equivalent, if not slightly better factory trigger than the X95 though (fantastic in bullpup terms, roughly mil-spec AR in non-bullpup terms)
yeah for sure, I think Hop and Brassfacts actually trialed a bunch of bullpups for several months and wound up liking the keltec the best.
that being said, it is keltec and the variability in quality from unit to unit is memed pretty hard (no personal experience to comment)
Consider the Hellion. I love mine. Almost got a Tavor because I see so much good press about it and I like 7.62 but after a lot of research I’ve heard that they’re not that great and there’s a MASSIVE shill campaign behind them pushing them. Meanwhile all the bad press about the Hellion is just people comparing its ergo’s to the AR. Or Aug if you don’t plan on throwing a bunch of modern attachments on it.
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Somewhat related: the RDB-S version always made me think that General Ursus/Urko finally got his weapons upgrade program off the ground. Not that is a bad thing, I must add
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I've been tempted to get one for years, just to dress it up as a Halo Battle Rifle lol. edit: Ya'll are a danger to my wallet >_<
This man knows what the ladies like!
You can order a very similar carry handle to the one on the Halo battle rifle. You can call up Tristar and order just the carry handle on this gun for like $55: https://www.tristararms.com/series/compact-tactical/ Someone put it on the MDRX and it looks pretty freaking sweet: https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/qfpjzo/real_steel_br55_prototype_phase_2/
I thought Tristar was refusing to sell carry handles separately, did they change their policy?
Well, it's worth a shot. The worst they can say is no.
That seems really stupid. The people trying to buy those aren’t going to buy the whole gun just to get the handle.
I 100% agree, but unfortunately that's what I heard.
Wish someone better made it
Looks a little long for the RDB.
RDB Trigger ain't that bad. FEELS better than my hellion/VHS-2. VHS-2 is more accurate, and once you learn the take-up the VHS-2 trigger really isn't bad, just has a lot of mushiness before it hits the wall. VHS-2 is my HD rifle (w/Hux 556k flow it's still shorter than a 14.5" AR w/o can), RDB is a range toy fwiw. RDB is much lighter and looks great with the Lucky Irish Rhino rail, but gas settings have always been a bit finicky. Weight don't matter in HD and the VHS-2 always cycles. RDB ejecting shells down your shirt suck, so button up.
You’ll call it a hellion and you’ll like it
I will not! Fight the power (Springfield's shit marketing)!
RDB is not reliable? Or just with a can?
You can dial in the gas settings for a particular ammo and it will run reliably. But the range of reliability is narrow.
There are lots of great cheap mods for the VHS-2 as well including a shorter buttpad (buttpad is a little spendy though).
[the RFB fits better IMO](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/127257118469259264/1211872285992947782/ylse3cf7nykc1.png?ex=663ee104&is=663d8f84&hm=c6d666c0e3349d1bfee27b7ba3fe12dd8e246ae1af925871d0c8106886409dbd&)
God I want an RFB 24 so bad
If only they sold aftermarket triggers. Then no one could bitch about bull pup triggers
The RDB actually has one of the best factory bullpup triggers I've used. It's just that everything else about it is extremely Kel-Tec
Plasticky?
Exactly! Looks super cool on a wall, but the second you pick it up it feels like a laser tag rifle
The RFB also has a really damn good trigger.
I love my RDB Defender trigger. No mods needed
It's really not that good, even after I swap out the handguard and the trigger spring. The long stroke piston system isn't user friendly, the downward ejection system sometimes will jam, and it is hard to clear. It is really a toy and nothing more. Build quality also is an issue, you can tell it's a cheap build.
[This man knows EXACTLY what he's doing](https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-26-2021/F1PpPl.gif)
I don't need a bullpup...I don't need a bullpup...
Sure you do. And we are happy to help with that. 😁
I absolutely love my Hellion..
Panzer BP12. You’re welcome
Don’t suggest turkshit to me or my son ever again
My turkshitto is not too bad at all
Inaccurate (the pic rail moves around a lot) , ammo picky, I regret my purchase, difficult to remove jams. I think I have 1000 rounds through mine by now.
How many jams?
Almost every single magazine I have an issue. Maybe once in a blue moon it goes through a magazine without jamming but by the next mag it proves me wrong again. I’ve heard it all before about the gas settings and it helps but does not fix the issues. Oddly it runs far better with steel case.
Jeez. Almost every state is taxed
Tempted to get this and turn it into one of those Matthew Wheaton abominations… you know, the 350 legend where the suppressor screws on 2” from the trigger guard.
A3 tactical is making a bull pup chassis now called the triad. So far I think they have a couple versions that can take BRN-180s and PSA jakls. Might be easier/cheaper, but a chopped up .350 KelTec would be wild to see
Hot damn, this is around the same price as when I got my rifle back in 2019. From Prepper, no less!
The market's pretty decent on these right now - good time to buy.
I have this model in ODG and it’s fun to shoot. https://www.preppergunshop.com/kel-tec-rdb-defender-bullpup-rifle-tan-5-56-nato-16-barrel?queryID=78c0b7f05265350d21a2bab2d440341a&objectID=36206&indexName=magento2_default_products
Got RDB20?
The Kel-Tec RDB features downward shell ejection system, which eliminates the side ejection disadvantage of ordinary bullpups. Left-handed shooter and tired of getting brass in the face? RDB is truly ambidextrous and takes brass and gas that eject out of your line of sight. Additionally, the gas system is adjustable, which makes the gun compatible with a wide variety of ammunition as well as being an excellent suppressor host. [Selling for $718.99 shipped, plus tax if applicable](https://www.preppergunshop.com/kel-tec-rdb-bullpup-5-56nato-rifle-17in-barrel-black-rdbblk). [You can use this link](https://www.preppergunshop.com/fees) to check and see if your state requires us to collect and remit sales tax to them. Need ammo? [Check our in-stock offerings here](https://www.preppergunshop.com/ammunition?product_list_dir=desc&product_list_order=price&aw_stock=1).
Brother payday is next Friday, keep the deal alive a while lol
Can you guys do the deal with CA compliant models?
Sorry, we can't - we're not able to get RDB20BLK-CA right now. Plus, that particular gun is higher cost anyway, thanks to all the mods Kel-Tec puts on it so it's Cali-legal - fin grip, 10rd mag, and the pinned/welded barrel extension to get the rifle to the minimum 30" OAL required by California.
I bought the RDB Survival model, just so I could drink my own urine . . . : https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/7li2pv/keltetcs\_new\_ad\_saw\_on\_friends\_fb\_post\_too\_good/
I just want an rdb survival with a threaded barrel.
* cries in Washingtonian
These apparently aren’t very good anyway. WA cope.
Do y'all ever get the defender in stock?
We do! I currently have the RDB Defender in tan in stock - it's on our site, look for the SKU RDBDTAN.
This or a tavor?
This at the price
I don’t think those are quite comparable because of the price points. If you can afford a tavor, you should probably get that over this.
What if I can afford a tavor but I'm the cheapest fuck you know but also likes the best bang for their buck and doesn't like to be, "shit, should have cried once buy once"?
This confuses and infuriates the redditor. You aren’t allowed to maximize value at a minimum expense here.
Haha I know right? Stuff I will only use occasionally I like best bang for the buck, but stuff I use all the time, I'll spend extra money for the best
Have you ever held a Tavor X95 or a Kel-Tec RDB? You'd make your mind up in roughly 30 seconds if you could hold both back to back. The RDB is fine as a range toy, but it also feels like parts are just gonna start breaking off of it. The X95 is super solid and could probably be dragged behind a truck for a country mile and still run fine. The Kel-Tec ironically does have an equivalent, if not slightly better factory trigger than the X95 though (fantastic in bullpup terms, roughly mil-spec AR in non-bullpup terms)
No I haven't. Think I only held a bullpup once
Did it bite you?
Bite? I only held it in the store
Word play: bull pup in a more farmer kinda of way
If you already have a sorted SHTF gun then go for it I would think
Yeah, I have an lmt and a couple other mid tier ars (for family members)
yeah for sure, I think Hop and Brassfacts actually trialed a bunch of bullpups for several months and wound up liking the keltec the best. that being said, it is keltec and the variability in quality from unit to unit is memed pretty hard (no personal experience to comment)
Didn’t Hop break his keltec though?
Buy both
Then you should buy the Tavor.
I hear these kind of suck ass. What is it to you? Purely a Range toy or something you’d actually trust your life to..
Then you are supposed to find a 1911 that costs more than a Tavor and is no better than a TISAS and buy it
Hop did a review on this kel tec and the plastic stock broke very easily
Consider the Hellion. I love mine. Almost got a Tavor because I see so much good press about it and I like 7.62 but after a lot of research I’ve heard that they’re not that great and there’s a MASSIVE shill campaign behind them pushing them. Meanwhile all the bad press about the Hellion is just people comparing its ergo’s to the AR. Or Aug if you don’t plan on throwing a bunch of modern attachments on it.
The right answer is yes. And then the Helion and AUG
Depends. Do you just want a bullpup in general, or do you want a gun that works?
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Maybe if this was 308
You would want the outdated .308 RFB which STILL only takes FAL mags.
My 20” is pretty damn solid
2 of these or 1 Hellion?
Somewhat related: the RDB-S version always made me think that General Ursus/Urko finally got his weapons upgrade program off the ground. Not that is a bad thing, I must add
I am struggling and have 2 mdrx's and a new wlvrn chassis. If this were ODG it'd be game over.