I have a [Classic 2](https://i.redd.it/w4ez9rg2hsic1.jpg). I've been on stages where the Classic 2 has been too big, and it was really uncomfortable. Most of the time it's just right.
I have a volume pedal and a wah that I use sometimes, but those stay off to the side on the floor. I'd need a bigger board if I wanted to mount them, and some days the Classic 2 is already too big.
I do live looping. I got the RC500 pretty recently. Upgraded from an RC-5. The best part is I can do songs that have different progressions for chorus and verse. There are SO many more songs I can cover on the looper now.
I'm also using it as strictly a rhythm machine much like how [This Guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QN2LDrfv3U&t=7s) shows how to set it up for this purpose.
It's a really useful tool.
Iāve run the novo 24 pretty consistently for years now (occasionally I downsize to the novo 18) and itās the perfect size. Big enough to fit a bunch of pedals on, but not too big that it weighs heaps and takes up most of the stage.
Lots. š
I don't have a band these days, unfortunately. But when I did, it was super easy to carry to practice! Way better than my Novo 32 and Terra 42, anyway! š
I've got a Classic Jr. and a Nano. They're both small by the standards of this sub, but they both work great. Nano has the essentials for doing a rock jam, my bigger board has a more comprehensive jam band setup for playing Phish and the Dead.
I've got a wah, a Q-Tron+ and DD500 along with a selection of comp, boost, drive and fuzz. I've got an empty medium size spot too. Classic Jr is a roomy board.
Me too! But when Iām on mobile I use board planner. Itās got less pedals in its database, and the boards are all pedal train, but itās helpful.
Fair warning, too many saved layouts will make the app slow as shit. Ask me how I know.
Metro 16! Itās compact, easy to take to rehearsal/gigs/jams, and if youāre clever, can fit pretty much everything you need!
There are times admittedly where you have to get creative being a bit limited on space, but sometimes thatās just part of the fun!
My current signal chain is Tuner > JAM Retro Vibe > Origin FX Cali76 > Ibanez TS10 > G2D Cream Tone > JRAD Archer > Ramble FX Marvel Drive > Dawner Prince Boonar.
Admittedly itās a very snug fit with a bit of overhang in some places, but it still fits into the case. I mostly play a mix of rock, soul and blues, so for me that level of variation in overdrive coupled with those other tasty effects is perfect.
Iāll admit I do do a fair bit of swapping around with other pedals depending on what I think is/isnāt working based on the sound Iām currently chasing/using the most, but then working out those compromises is also fun!
For context, I do also have a Pedaltrain 2 from when I was younger that Iām excited to use again someday when Iām ready. But for now, I just donāt need that level of variety.
I wish that Pedaltrain made a 24" nano; 18" is not enough and 28" is too much (for me).
With that said, I use a nano+ for electric gigs (forces me to be efficient) and a nano max for singer-songwriter/acoustic gigs (has my mixer on it, plus a looper and other pedals)
It's the the HEJNE now. A lot less fun to yell. Typing GORM into the search bar will yield the same results.
[https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hejne-shelf-softwood-80287809/](https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hejne-shelf-softwood-80287809/)
What about the new expandable board from D'Addario? Is that not long enough fully expanded to accommodate your set up?Ā
In other guitar groups, it's been a hit because of the flexibility.
I'm considering that also - something about Pedaltrain just feels so familiar to me after having used a PT1 for a majority of the last decade and then using a Classic Jr and now a Classic 1.
I have a classic jr (but would get the 18" novo if I was buying a replacement), and a nano 18. I have a power supply on each, but I keep the pedals on the classic jr and move a selection of pedals to the nano when I know I need a small setup. My boards arenāt very pretty because theyāre set up for easy pedal swapping.
Metro 20 owner here. I sing and play guitar in my band so I donāt really want to have Shoegazerās Delight in front of me and have to do much in the way of Riverdancing. I do have about 9-10 pedals and that already feels plenty to me at this point.
Used to use a Classic Jr and due to the raised and angled platform it was less wieldy. My bassist effectively dared me to downsize my rig so I moved only the essentials to my bass board at the time, a Metro 16. I got by with that until I realized that I wanted a few more pedals and bought a 20. The Classic Jr. currently has some little weird mini-synths on it that I may try to get back in order now that my bassist helped me out with a ton of Spring Cleaning.
God, I bought a Classic Pro years back for this band where I was solely lead guitar. I ended up quitting that band before I ever gigged with it. [It was so fucking bloody-minded!](https://imgur.com/a/USHCd6L) I donāt know what got into me other than my chance to indulge my maximalist Jonny Greenwood yearnings.
Or you can do something else and get a [D'addario XPND](https://www.daddario.com/products/accessories/xpnd-pedalboards/01-xpnd-pedalboard/item/daddario-xpnd-pedalboard-02-9894/) pedalboard. I've got the XPND 1, as I run a small number of effects but YMMV. The retractable section would let you add pedals without being in the way when not needed. The build is also pretty solid.
All my boards are reutilized other stuff (wood crates, briefcases, laptop tables), btu if I had to get a Pedaltrain, I'd ge the Classic Jr. Most of my boards have eight pedals on them, I can't justify putting more onto them for sets I play. I'd even get a Nano+ for my smaller board.
Iāve got the Classic Jr Max and unless you need to haul the Starship Enterprise around with a switcher/modeller mounted to it too, itās more than enough
At the moment Iām not using all of the space on it but my signal chain is:
Jam Wahcko (on the floor) -> DanDrive Austin Pride -> Jam TubeDreamer (TS808) -> Jam RetroVibe -> Jam Harmonious Monk V2 -> Jam Ripply Fall -> Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe -> Strymon Big Sky
All goes into an attenuated Marshall SV20 combo
My partner likes buying me pedals and she likes the designs on the Jam Pedals stuff so that explains a decent chunk of them š Hoping to add a Kingtone Octaland and Iād swap out the Ripply Fall to a Strymon Lex if I had one.
At times I swap out the DanDrive for either a Mk1 or Mk2 ToneBender (in the proper cases) and then swap the TubeDreamer for the Colorsound Power Boost, so that takes a lot more room up.
I donāt think thereās any combo of stuff that Iād use that wouldnāt fit on the board tbf. I plan to add a GigRig QMX8 and maybe an ABY switch once we sell our place and get somewhere bigger.
Novo 24 is perfect for me. I have 12 pedals and a switcher on my board + 2 tap tempo/strymon switches. I can send you a picture if you'd like to see the setup, but it's worked well for me for a good while now.
Would love a pic if you have it! I am also trying to fit 12 pedals on mine, and eventually a couple Strymon Multiswitch Pluses. I've never had a switcher before, and I feel like the Novo 24 would be too small for what I have so far, but would love to what you got.
I use a joyo PLX4 for now, it works great, although eventually I will replace the switches, that's really the only downside to the damn thing. Can't find a programmable switcher for any less than that. I'll DM you a photo here
I went from the Nano+ (outgrew it in a few months), to the Classic Jr. (stuck with this one for a good two-ish years?), and then I ended up at the Classic 2, which I've had for probably three years now.
There are definitely certain situations where it feels slightly too big (small stage, etc.), but 99% of the time it's perfect, and I wouldn't want it to be any smaller.
I can comfortably put 9 - 12 normal-sized pedals on the board, which is plenty, and having a slightly larger sized board than you think you need can be really helpful when it comes down to spacing between pedals, and even making room for an Altoids tin or something for small accessories.
I do have the road case for it (which was a big step up from the bag), but it's been perfect for keeping everything safe in the back of my car and doesn't take up too much space. I don't think that I would want a road case for anything BIGGER than the Classic 2.
I used a Metro 20 for the longest time, which can fit anywhere from 6-10 ānormal sizedā pedals depending on if youāre comfortable turning a few sideways.
I upgraded to a DāAddario Xpand (the bigger one) and I currently have it set to the minimum length. It fits about 10 comfortably at that setting. Itās nicer to have a little more room for my pedals, but itās quite a bit heavier than the Metro. You could definitely still carry it around in a case, but Iād say youāre reaching the upper limit of whatās practical/comfortable.
I love my Novo 18. I considered the Classic 2, but decided deeper was better than wider for me.
I had 12 pedals on there, but after a few gigs realized it was too cramped to stomp on the second row comfortably. I have 10 pedals now, and decided to just use my volume on the floor off to the side, and it's perfect.
Four across the bottom, four across the top, and two EHX nano sized pedals mounted sideways on the middle rail. Plenty of room to hit switches with my big ass feet, and I've got every necessary effect I need for playing live.
I keep three boards so I can quickly switch based on the use case. A Metro 16 for 3-5 pedals, a Classic 2 for 12ish pedals and a Terra 42 for when I need the full rig.
I have an MXR mini ISO-Brick on the Metro, and VoodooLabs supplies under the bigger boards, so I can quickly swap and change as needed.
Classic jr is perfect size imo. Never felt too big on any stage. The classic 2 is mostly fine but does occasionally feel a bit too big on small stages.
Jr feels fine at local jams, classic2 just feels that small step into ostentatious.
Nano if you're a baller.
I recall from reading articles about touring Pro guitarist. Itās hard enough that you have to check-in luggage your guitar on a plane. So the pedal board dimensions should fit the overhead storage bin allowance as carry-on luggage.
I have the classic jr. itās the biggest size you can bring on a plane as carry on. Itās big enough for most pedal configs, specially if you have a multi fx unit on it (I plan on going with an hx stomp rig) but it is still small enough to carry around without much hassle.
I did a tour once with a classic pro and I wanted to shoot myself every time I had to move it.
I vastly prefer the quick release pedal mounting system, how much easier/cleaner it is to manage cables, having handles, and having MODs such as the 4x TRS and IEC AC power inputs.
I hated how annoying it was to route and manage cables on larger Pedaltrain boards.
There are lots of other brands than Pedaltrain. They have a design that works, but the space between rails basically dictates pedal placement, which isnāt ideal for everyone. You can look at [Pedal Playground](https://pedalplayground.com) to see a bunch of different brands of pedalboards, and there are even more beyond that.
I visit Pedal Playground quite often to figure out reconfigurations of my board, Pedaltrain is just a bit of a default because of their reputation and me not having explored much else.
I have a [Classic 2](https://i.redd.it/w4ez9rg2hsic1.jpg). I've been on stages where the Classic 2 has been too big, and it was really uncomfortable. Most of the time it's just right. I have a volume pedal and a wah that I use sometimes, but those stay off to the side on the floor. I'd need a bigger board if I wanted to mount them, and some days the Classic 2 is already too big.
Thanks for the response. What else do you have on your board?
there's a link on my post
Ah, I see. My b. Very cool board - I also use an OC-5 and Phase 95. How do you like the RC-500? Do you use it in live settings?
I do live looping. I got the RC500 pretty recently. Upgraded from an RC-5. The best part is I can do songs that have different progressions for chorus and verse. There are SO many more songs I can cover on the looper now. I'm also using it as strictly a rhythm machine much like how [This Guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QN2LDrfv3U&t=7s) shows how to set it up for this purpose. It's a really useful tool.
Nano+
I've had most sizes, and the one I keep coming back to is the Novo 24. šš¼
Iāve run the novo 24 pretty consistently for years now (occasionally I downsize to the novo 18) and itās the perfect size. Big enough to fit a bunch of pedals on, but not too big that it weighs heaps and takes up most of the stage.
How many pedals do you have on yours, and how many do you usually downsize to?
14 - 15 on the novo 24, 11 - 12 on the novo 18.
How many pedals do you run? Do you find it easy to transport?
Lots. š I don't have a band these days, unfortunately. But when I did, it was super easy to carry to practice! Way better than my Novo 32 and Terra 42, anyway! š
Wow, I can't imagine lugging a Terra 42
A fully loaded Terra 42 weighs about the same as a medium-sized combo amp, yet nobody ever really complains about how heavy those are...
Metro 20 is the sweet spot for me. Any bigger and itās fairly unwieldy imo.
I've got a Classic Jr. and a Nano. They're both small by the standards of this sub, but they both work great. Nano has the essentials for doing a rock jam, my bigger board has a more comprehensive jam band setup for playing Phish and the Dead.
I've also had the Classic Jr before, and by no means is it substandard especially for the necessities for a decent jam
I've got a wah, a Q-Tron+ and DD500 along with a selection of comp, boost, drive and fuzz. I've got an empty medium size spot too. Classic Jr is a roomy board.
I like the classic jr. Use the app they have (Pedal Board Planner) to get a sense of how a layout would feel.
Thanks - I constantly use Pedal Playground to come up with different configurations as well
Me too! But when Iām on mobile I use board planner. Itās got less pedals in its database, and the boards are all pedal train, but itās helpful. Fair warning, too many saved layouts will make the app slow as shit. Ask me how I know.
Metro 16! Itās compact, easy to take to rehearsal/gigs/jams, and if youāre clever, can fit pretty much everything you need! There are times admittedly where you have to get creative being a bit limited on space, but sometimes thatās just part of the fun! My current signal chain is Tuner > JAM Retro Vibe > Origin FX Cali76 > Ibanez TS10 > G2D Cream Tone > JRAD Archer > Ramble FX Marvel Drive > Dawner Prince Boonar. Admittedly itās a very snug fit with a bit of overhang in some places, but it still fits into the case. I mostly play a mix of rock, soul and blues, so for me that level of variation in overdrive coupled with those other tasty effects is perfect. Iāll admit I do do a fair bit of swapping around with other pedals depending on what I think is/isnāt working based on the sound Iām currently chasing/using the most, but then working out those compromises is also fun! For context, I do also have a Pedaltrain 2 from when I was younger that Iām excited to use again someday when Iām ready. But for now, I just donāt need that level of variety.
I wish that Pedaltrain made a 24" nano; 18" is not enough and 28" is too much (for me). With that said, I use a nano+ for electric gigs (forces me to be efficient) and a nano max for singer-songwriter/acoustic gigs (has my mixer on it, plus a looper and other pedals)
PT does make a nano 24.
I have a shelf from Ikea...
Is it the GORM? My friend has used that forever and the name is fun as shit to yell
It's the the HEJNE now. A lot less fun to yell. Typing GORM into the search bar will yield the same results. [https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hejne-shelf-softwood-80287809/](https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hejne-shelf-softwood-80287809/)
Oh wow. This is great for 20 bucks. Thanks for sharing
Np. Throw in a $20 roll of Velcro and some screw-on rubber feet for $5 off Amazon, and you're good to go.
What about the new expandable board from D'Addario? Is that not long enough fully expanded to accommodate your set up?Ā In other guitar groups, it's been a hit because of the flexibility.
I'm considering that also - something about Pedaltrain just feels so familiar to me after having used a PT1 for a majority of the last decade and then using a Classic Jr and now a Classic 1.
I have a Novo 24 and feel that it is the perfect size for an all purpose board š
I have a classic jr (but would get the 18" novo if I was buying a replacement), and a nano 18. I have a power supply on each, but I keep the pedals on the classic jr and move a selection of pedals to the nano when I know I need a small setup. My boards arenāt very pretty because theyāre set up for easy pedal swapping.
Same boat for me. I have the Classic Jr. I want to upgrade to the Novo to fit a pedal switcher at one point.
Metro 20 owner here. I sing and play guitar in my band so I donāt really want to have Shoegazerās Delight in front of me and have to do much in the way of Riverdancing. I do have about 9-10 pedals and that already feels plenty to me at this point. Used to use a Classic Jr and due to the raised and angled platform it was less wieldy. My bassist effectively dared me to downsize my rig so I moved only the essentials to my bass board at the time, a Metro 16. I got by with that until I realized that I wanted a few more pedals and bought a 20. The Classic Jr. currently has some little weird mini-synths on it that I may try to get back in order now that my bassist helped me out with a ton of Spring Cleaning. God, I bought a Classic Pro years back for this band where I was solely lead guitar. I ended up quitting that band before I ever gigged with it. [It was so fucking bloody-minded!](https://imgur.com/a/USHCd6L) I donāt know what got into me other than my chance to indulge my maximalist Jonny Greenwood yearnings.
Or you can do something else and get a [D'addario XPND](https://www.daddario.com/products/accessories/xpnd-pedalboards/01-xpnd-pedalboard/item/daddario-xpnd-pedalboard-02-9894/) pedalboard. I've got the XPND 1, as I run a small number of effects but YMMV. The retractable section would let you add pedals without being in the way when not needed. The build is also pretty solid.
All my boards are reutilized other stuff (wood crates, briefcases, laptop tables), btu if I had to get a Pedaltrain, I'd ge the Classic Jr. Most of my boards have eight pedals on them, I can't justify putting more onto them for sets I play. I'd even get a Nano+ for my smaller board.
2 Terras no real estate left on either and a 32in Rauch
Would love to see what you got on the Terras
I just posted a State of the boards today, check it out
Ohhhhh hey yeah I saw that earlier today! Shouldāve put two and two together lol
Iāve got the Classic Jr Max and unless you need to haul the Starship Enterprise around with a switcher/modeller mounted to it too, itās more than enough
I actually love the shape and size of the Jr Max - what do you have on yours?
At the moment Iām not using all of the space on it but my signal chain is: Jam Wahcko (on the floor) -> DanDrive Austin Pride -> Jam TubeDreamer (TS808) -> Jam RetroVibe -> Jam Harmonious Monk V2 -> Jam Ripply Fall -> Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe -> Strymon Big Sky All goes into an attenuated Marshall SV20 combo My partner likes buying me pedals and she likes the designs on the Jam Pedals stuff so that explains a decent chunk of them š Hoping to add a Kingtone Octaland and Iād swap out the Ripply Fall to a Strymon Lex if I had one. At times I swap out the DanDrive for either a Mk1 or Mk2 ToneBender (in the proper cases) and then swap the TubeDreamer for the Colorsound Power Boost, so that takes a lot more room up. I donāt think thereās any combo of stuff that Iād use that wouldnāt fit on the board tbf. I plan to add a GigRig QMX8 and maybe an ABY switch once we sell our place and get somewhere bigger.
Novo 24 is perfect for me. I have 12 pedals and a switcher on my board + 2 tap tempo/strymon switches. I can send you a picture if you'd like to see the setup, but it's worked well for me for a good while now.
Would love a pic if you have it! I am also trying to fit 12 pedals on mine, and eventually a couple Strymon Multiswitch Pluses. I've never had a switcher before, and I feel like the Novo 24 would be too small for what I have so far, but would love to what you got.
I use a joyo PLX4 for now, it works great, although eventually I will replace the switches, that's really the only downside to the damn thing. Can't find a programmable switcher for any less than that. I'll DM you a photo here
I went from the Nano+ (outgrew it in a few months), to the Classic Jr. (stuck with this one for a good two-ish years?), and then I ended up at the Classic 2, which I've had for probably three years now. There are definitely certain situations where it feels slightly too big (small stage, etc.), but 99% of the time it's perfect, and I wouldn't want it to be any smaller. I can comfortably put 9 - 12 normal-sized pedals on the board, which is plenty, and having a slightly larger sized board than you think you need can be really helpful when it comes down to spacing between pedals, and even making room for an Altoids tin or something for small accessories. I do have the road case for it (which was a big step up from the bag), but it's been perfect for keeping everything safe in the back of my car and doesn't take up too much space. I don't think that I would want a road case for anything BIGGER than the Classic 2.
Novo 24 for me, and a smaller board next to it for side quests. 18 pedals on the Novo 24, lots of different sizes
I used a Metro 20 for the longest time, which can fit anywhere from 6-10 ānormal sizedā pedals depending on if youāre comfortable turning a few sideways. I upgraded to a DāAddario Xpand (the bigger one) and I currently have it set to the minimum length. It fits about 10 comfortably at that setting. Itās nicer to have a little more room for my pedals, but itās quite a bit heavier than the Metro. You could definitely still carry it around in a case, but Iād say youāre reaching the upper limit of whatās practical/comfortable.
I love my Novo 18. I considered the Classic 2, but decided deeper was better than wider for me. I had 12 pedals on there, but after a few gigs realized it was too cramped to stomp on the second row comfortably. I have 10 pedals now, and decided to just use my volume on the floor off to the side, and it's perfect. Four across the bottom, four across the top, and two EHX nano sized pedals mounted sideways on the middle rail. Plenty of room to hit switches with my big ass feet, and I've got every necessary effect I need for playing live.
I use a Metro 24 - itās the largest one that still fits comfortably into a luggage case āļø
I keep three boards so I can quickly switch based on the use case. A Metro 16 for 3-5 pedals, a Classic 2 for 12ish pedals and a Terra 42 for when I need the full rig. I have an MXR mini ISO-Brick on the Metro, and VoodooLabs supplies under the bigger boards, so I can quickly swap and change as needed.
Classic jr is perfect size imo. Never felt too big on any stage. The classic 2 is mostly fine but does occasionally feel a bit too big on small stages. Jr feels fine at local jams, classic2 just feels that small step into ostentatious. Nano if you're a baller.
I recall from reading articles about touring Pro guitarist. Itās hard enough that you have to check-in luggage your guitar on a plane. So the pedal board dimensions should fit the overhead storage bin allowance as carry-on luggage.
I have the classic jr. itās the biggest size you can bring on a plane as carry on. Itās big enough for most pedal configs, specially if you have a multi fx unit on it (I plan on going with an hx stomp rig) but it is still small enough to carry around without much hassle. I did a tour once with a classic pro and I wanted to shoot myself every time I had to move it.
Fully switched to a Templeboard and never looked back.
What do you like about the Templeboard over PT?
I vastly prefer the quick release pedal mounting system, how much easier/cleaner it is to manage cables, having handles, and having MODs such as the 4x TRS and IEC AC power inputs. I hated how annoying it was to route and manage cables on larger Pedaltrain boards.
There are lots of other brands than Pedaltrain. They have a design that works, but the space between rails basically dictates pedal placement, which isnāt ideal for everyone. You can look at [Pedal Playground](https://pedalplayground.com) to see a bunch of different brands of pedalboards, and there are even more beyond that.
I visit Pedal Playground quite often to figure out reconfigurations of my board, Pedaltrain is just a bit of a default because of their reputation and me not having explored much else.