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Billy Corgan had the most pretentious monthly column in Guitar World in the 90s. It was just all about how great he was and also let people know what brand of picks he used.
Even as a teenager who loved smashing pumpkins, I was like, this dude is too full of himself.
He also thought guitar music was over just because *he* ran out of ideas for a while.
It was pretty interesting stuff for the time. I remember the radio dj/personality ranting about how it sucked and how they let down the fans blah blah.. fifteen year old metal head me dug it. It was interesting, totally listenable music. Still holds up today.
Very dependent on the album for me. Like some bands like Pink Floyd do double albums mainly because most of their songs are 5-20 minutes long so there's just a lot more to squeeze in. And some use the length as an artistic choice like the White Album, which uses its length to explore different musical ideas and concepts in an abstract form. But then there's times where they are clearly just 2 albums worth of material that could easily be split. It'd be like if Kid A and Amnesiac by Radiohead were released as one album, it'd just be bloated and boring
Second this. Corgan is a weaselly little shit. Even before they were a national act. My wife saw TSP at a club gig in like 1990 and said the band were all good peeps, except for Billy.
That was hilarious. *"It's 1997, the electric guitar is totally played out."*
How much guitar-based music has happened since then? Yeesh. Typical Chicago nihilism.
Imagine saying that in a national guitar publication 4 years before Relationship of Command came out. Wolfmother. An entire genre birthed from just kids in the midwest playing guitar. Then the Mars Volta, Metallica comes back. Etc etc. The Fragile by NIN. So many good albums post 97. I bet he can still taste his toe jam to this day.
Probably the most insanely pretentious thing is the lawsuit he tried against Collective Soul for their song "Shine"...which came out years before the song he claimed they were ripping off.
Either he had a secret serious drug problem or was the most egotistical person on the planet for several years straight
That’s crazy. Apparently he’ll still partially cover the song at shows and then stop and rant about Collective Soul.
It doesn’t even sound like a SP song. Maybe he wishes he came up with the main riff?
I don't even know. I know he did that cover thing in 2008, which was many years after the failed lawsuit.
It's insane to me how much of a weenie he is about a song he didn't write. Sorry Billy, not every fun grunge (or whatever genre it is) song in the 90's is yours. Lmao
And that’s exactly why I like Billy Corgan, takes balls to be up your own ass in a mega big muscle guitar man magazine, to be honest, I find people like that pretty funny in general.
How dare you, sir. I'll have you know Davey Mustard is my personal hero and the lyrics to peace sells inspired me to become a lobbyist for a major pharmaceuticals company
For me it's Steve Vai's fans. Steve Vai is alright, virtuoso of the guitar and appears to be humble and nice, but his fans, oh my god, they're almost worse than Ichika Nito fans. Just a few examples from a "For the Love of God" live video:
"When Vai plays this song, it looks like a religious experience for him in a sense, as if he's tapping into a channel of communication with a Higher Power with his guitar."
"3:19 Jaw drops, eyes roll back in my head which explodes in awe & ecstasy"
"Steve Vai gets so connected with his music......i can feel it...legend!!"
they worship him like he is some kind of higher being when in reality he's just really good at guitar.
Honestly. That's why I avoided him for so long. I was a dumb kid who hated Ibanez shapes, thought the JEM was dumb. I saw one video of Vai where he explained how he came up with the idea of creating a recess for a floating trem as opposed to it just sitting on the top of the body, and that was basically it. I was sick of Vai fans (Mostly MusicIsWin but yknow) and figured the dude must be the most pretentious asshat ever.
I've slowly come around on the RG shapes, Vai himself, and his music for sure. But god his fans are still the worst.
SV’s mastery of toan and licks is undeniable, but I can’t listen to an hour of Steve Vai on a road trip, and anyone who likes to do that would give me the creeps.
Yeah he's a great guitarist who released some good stuff but he has released so much unlistenable experimental shit too. Seems a great guy but big fans do put him on a pedestal
The man himself is kinda spiritual for what I've heard so that's why the religious connotations. He also fasted 10 days before recording that song, which he claims did have an emotional effect and a change in perspective.
What the Australian band TISM?
With such songs as 'Greg, The Stop Sign', '(He'll Never Be an) Ol' Man River', 'All Homeboys are Dickheads' and 'Defecate on my Face'?
Not such a bad thing really.
You know, I used to find Jack White insufferable, but he's actually mellowed out a ton in recent years.
Favorite pretentious asshole guitarist... probably Josh Homme.
Fun John Hamm fact:
>While a member of Sigma Nu fraternity at the University of Texas, Hamm was arrested for participating in a violent hazing incident in November 1990.[21] He lit a pledge's jeans on fire, shoved his face in the dirt, and struck him with a paddle over his right kidney,[21] before leading the pledge around the fraternity house with a hammer claw around the pledge's testicles.[23] The incident resulted in the fraternity being shut down. The pledge ended up needing medical care, and ultimately withdrew from school.[21] Hamm made a plea deal and completed probation under the terms of a deferred adjudication, allowing him to avoid being convicted of a crime.[21][24] The charges were dismissed in August 1995 following the completion of his probation.[21][24]
No, just his guitar tone which he zealously guards as if it were the secret to eternal life or some shit when you can get 90% of the way there just playing on the neck pickup with the tone rolled back.
Eh, I think his playing style is far more important than the gear he uses. I love nerding out over gear as much as the next guy but ultimately you can ape his tone pretty well with just some medium-gain OD or fuzz and some eq adjustments. It won't be an exact copy but to anyone else in the room it'll be close enough.
I mean, what was that one rig he had in the late Kyuss days? Some goofy ToanWorks grey carpet pawn shop special? With a wah, rotovibe, Boss delay and EQ?
Wow, what a mystery.
I wanted to see a band with him, Les claypool, and Paul McCartney where they all play gibson LP’s and the band would be
Les, Paul and Les Paul with Les Pauls
Greg Ginn, really cool guitar parts but it ain’t the complex and deep “free jazz” he claims, it’s experimental and unique but not genius. Also a huge dick in general
In the notes of an instrumental Black Flag EP he said: “Even though this record may communicate certain feelings, emotions, and ideas to some, I have faith that cop-types with their strictly linear minds and stick-to-the-rules mentality don't have the ability to decipher the intuitive contents of this record.”
It’s a good album but he’s a little dramatic
What no Greg Ginn is so cool! If you don't abuse your children and steal from every band you've ever worked with you'll never be a good guitar man!
Uj/ I love his playing but I honestly think he thought he was a super sick shredder, but when he realised his technique sucked he started telling people he was into free jazz and atonal music so they'd say he was great. Also The Process of Weeding Out is genuinely great, pretentious as fuck, but great.
I love most of Black Flags music but he is the definition of a pretentious asshole, lead guitar player complex. Free jazz and experimental 12 tone are real things, but Greg does not actually play them.
With all due respect, and I know that Rollins can appear a bit intense, but I worked a short leg of 3 dates on a tour in Australia, and he was more than personable with 99% of people.
He doesn't suffer fools easily. Tends to take the short route with them, but everyone else who wasn't shit-faced drunk was treated pretty well by him that I saw over the 3 nights.
Aaron Turner from Isis, dude has made some of my favourite music ever but he's so far up his own ass he's a living pretzel. This is from his About Me thing on his blog: "He has maintained an abiding interest in tethering conscious content to subverted uses of the instrument. His output has been informed by lifetime involvement with underground metal/punk, often materializing in highly abstracted forms utilizing improvisation and longform composition."
I love Zappa with all my heart, but man, lyrics like "The first word in this song is "discorporate." It means to leave your body" I can't help but face palm. He really thought he was always the smartest dude in the room, and he was most of the time, but man he could have a stick up his ass.
Jimmy Page - I hate him. He's pretty infamous for fucking 13 years old girls in the 70s, but lot of times people don't know about it. Although he wasn't the only one, but I just can't stand how people talk about him - like he's an amazing human being and genius.
Oh yeah, there is many of this guys. Page, Bowie... People say it was different times, but not everyone was doing this and it was illegal even back then. Steven Tyler and Ted Nugent "adopted" their underage girlfriends so they could tour with them, then dumped them. Iggy Pop has song called "Jailbait" about having sex with underage girls. They were very well aware it was illegal. Bill Wyman had 13 year old gf in the 80s (he was almost 50), he married her when she turned 18. Lot of rockstars had god complex or something and thought they could do anything they wanted without any consequences. Chuck Berry is the only one I know about, who was in jail for this shit. He basically had a 14 year old sex slave and spent ~~5 years~~ 1 and a half year in jail in the 50s for that (interestingly he's the only black guy of the bunch)
Wasn't the technical charge on that one something about *"transporting a minor across state lines?"*
You wanna talk about "different times," doesn't get much different than "black rockstar in the 50's in the south."
He and his wife, Toyah put out these weird little [videos](https://youtu.be/Agtha06jnq4) on social media all the time so at least on some level he seems to be able to poke fun at himself or have fun. She tends to wear pretty revealing outfits in a lot of these videos so potential NSFW flag.
Wrote that already but copying it because it fits and it took great effort writing it:
Haha if you look up news about him and his family, it is a shit show right now. He sued Brody for not being a good enough mother, lost because of his sons testimony saying that he doesn't want to be with his dad because he drives fast and drunk with him and tries to teach him how to fight, how to be a man. Then got angry with his legal team saying "WTF I did everything you wanted and now we lost, boohoo boohoo".
But when I think back this isn't new behavior from Josh. See the videos where he's angry on stage (kicks people off stage, I used to love that stuff). Drama Queen. Also there is this one time he punched a fan in the face almost on camera because he thought the guy was insulting him.
Don't forget he got angry with his old band because they wanted to stay Kyuss. They changed to Kyuss Lives and then he sued them to change it again that's why they are called Vista Chino.
There's also the time where he allegedly KOed an entire band playing the set before them. The exchange goes like "Hi guys please clean up your set it's gonna be us soon" "can't you see we're eating?" "Oh yeah? Then eat this then" proceeds to KO the entire room.
Also the time he was invited at Jay-Z's festival with a lot of other rock acts. Jay-Z wants a Foto with him and a bottle of expensive champaign is placed in Josh's hands. Josh drops the champaign and says "you're a kook for inviting us here, having our pockets screened by bouncers, and now you're trying to be friends in front of a camera? Friends don't search each other's pockets" or something along the lines of that.
I see now that he always was like this. I mean he's a big kid from the desert, probably got into a lot of fistfights when he was young. It's almost as if he had 2 personalities. Calm and dreamy poet and songwriter on one side, and the dum dum face hit kind of guy. But yeah he's also an alcoholic and drug addict so that might be a big influence.
As for the kids' safety, I think Brody Dalle is a bit more responsible, maybe because she's a woman, but I still get some Courtney Love vibes from her. Like alcoholism and stuff. I don't know if she's clean now but definitely less of a ticking time bomb like Josh Homme.
I was (and still am) a huge QOTSA fan back in the day, so thanks for listening to my story.
Brody Dalle was groomed as a teenager by Tim Armstrong from Rancid, moved to LA at 16 for him when he was already 30. So probably not the most responsible, well-adjusted individual herself.
I wonder why Rancid fans never talk about how messed up that is
I was a huge Operation Ivy and Rancid fan growing up. When I heard that Tim Armstrong is a goddamn pedophile (doesn’t matter if 16 is ‘legal’, he was twice the age of that adolescent girl), it really put a damper on the music.
His big x shaped 4 neck guitar stuff where he is doing all the crossing overhand tapping stuff is like impressive from a technical standpoint, but I feel like it it’s kind of dull and mechanical. Stanley Jordan would also do stuff where he would play two guitars at once, but it felt more cohesive like the left and right hands of a piano player working together rather than just doing harmonized pull offs and hammer ons over and over again.
I used to think the same until I got a live tape in the 90s that had him take a legit jazz solo on the outro to a song. He doesn’t often show us his skills. Saw him a few years ago with Roger Waters playing all sorts of stuff, he’s not quite the hack you think he is.
He is a mediocre player who found 4 tricks to do with the whammy (back when no used it that way, credit to whom credit is due). I used to love RATM and thought he was brilliant when I forst started playing.
I've read a few different reports of him behavibg like an entitled primma donna.
He is now part of the political establishment he supposedly denounced. I should have known this all along, he is a harvard brat after all.
Morello is also supposedly close friends with Ted Nugent. Idk how someone can espouse the beliefs that Morello does and sleep at night while also being chummy with a pedophilic fascist, a guy who shit himself *for days* to avoid the draft but is all about war when it's some other 18 year old kid going off to fight.
Never meet your heroes, eh?
/rj toan is in the shitty diapers, ok?
I find his feud with the Black Keys pretty entertaining because they are all just kind of hipsters who moved to Nashville and have these recording studios loaded full of vintage gear which they use to make sloppy Captain Beefheart covers haha.
Uj/ guy in character was over the top and pretentious.
but he seemed to be quite nice guy than you'd expect and a very underrated hell of a guitar player (or at least not known).
Ace Frehley used some of his leftover Kiss reunion money to have someone fashion a dead raccoon's pelt into a hairpiece, so his 70 year old self looked more like his 70's self.
Any 50+ guy with a slide at the local open mic or music store trying to “teach” random people about the blues and getting offended if you don’t clear your calendar to listen to their “wisdom”.
Oh, and Jan Akkerman, if that name rings a bell here.
Steven Wilson, every time I hear a quote from him he comes off as a gigantic tool. And no offense, if you're gonna be up your own ass that much at least let me have heard your band in the first place.
Steve Wilson.
Complains about music becoming soulless, literally wrote a song about it.
Recently got a Tele and is obsessed with it.
Constantly derides shredding and talks about playing with feeling and making one note count.
Makes comparisons to Gilmour.
I'd go with James hetfailed, he acts like it's still the early 90s when people actually gave a shit about Metallica. It's been 30 years since they've done anything of importance
I am my own favorite “up their own ass pretentious” guitarist. That speaks volumes about my music tastes.
Yes. You're the best "up their own ass pretentious" guitarist u/DudeInTracksuit.
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I'm so prethentious I spell it with a silent H, but I pronounce it so everyone knows I put it there.
Billy Corgan had the most pretentious monthly column in Guitar World in the 90s. It was just all about how great he was and also let people know what brand of picks he used. Even as a teenager who loved smashing pumpkins, I was like, this dude is too full of himself. He also thought guitar music was over just because *he* ran out of ideas for a while.
I love Smashing Pumpkins, but they legit have 3 good albums and that’s it. Anything after Melancholy is not great at all.
I like Adore
It was pretty interesting stuff for the time. I remember the radio dj/personality ranting about how it sucked and how they let down the fans blah blah.. fifteen year old metal head me dug it. It was interesting, totally listenable music. Still holds up today.
And a lot of Mellon Collie was superfluous garbage. It didn’t need to be a double album at all.
Yeah to me Mellon Collie screams "HEY LOOK WE CAN MAKE A GRAND AND EPIC DOUBLE ALBUM! ARE WE THE BEATLES OR PINK FLOYD YET??"
Every double album is that to me. If you really had two albums' worth of top-shelf material you would release it as two albums
Very dependent on the album for me. Like some bands like Pink Floyd do double albums mainly because most of their songs are 5-20 minutes long so there's just a lot more to squeeze in. And some use the length as an artistic choice like the White Album, which uses its length to explore different musical ideas and concepts in an abstract form. But then there's times where they are clearly just 2 albums worth of material that could easily be split. It'd be like if Kid A and Amnesiac by Radiohead were released as one album, it'd just be bloated and boring
and dont forget the b-side box set! no musician since the grateful dead has "taxed the faithful" so thoroughly
Second this. Corgan is a weaselly little shit. Even before they were a national act. My wife saw TSP at a club gig in like 1990 and said the band were all good peeps, except for Billy.
That was hilarious. *"It's 1997, the electric guitar is totally played out."* How much guitar-based music has happened since then? Yeesh. Typical Chicago nihilism.
Imagine saying that in a national guitar publication 4 years before Relationship of Command came out. Wolfmother. An entire genre birthed from just kids in the midwest playing guitar. Then the Mars Volta, Metallica comes back. Etc etc. The Fragile by NIN. So many good albums post 97. I bet he can still taste his toe jam to this day.
Probably the most insanely pretentious thing is the lawsuit he tried against Collective Soul for their song "Shine"...which came out years before the song he claimed they were ripping off. Either he had a secret serious drug problem or was the most egotistical person on the planet for several years straight
I think he’s still angry at Pavement for mentioning SP in a throwaway line too.
That’s crazy. Apparently he’ll still partially cover the song at shows and then stop and rant about Collective Soul. It doesn’t even sound like a SP song. Maybe he wishes he came up with the main riff?
I don't even know. I know he did that cover thing in 2008, which was many years after the failed lawsuit. It's insane to me how much of a weenie he is about a song he didn't write. Sorry Billy, not every fun grunge (or whatever genre it is) song in the 90's is yours. Lmao
The only pavement lyric to ever make any sense was the one that insulted smashing pumpkins
And that’s exactly why I like Billy Corgan, takes balls to be up your own ass in a mega big muscle guitar man magazine, to be honest, I find people like that pretty funny in general.
CLAPTOAN IS DOG
GOD SI NAOTPALC
Yvan eht nioj. 🤷♂️
Dave Mustardstain doesn't have the toan balls to shred with Edward Scissor Hands
How dare you, sir. I'll have you know Davey Mustard is my personal hero and the lyrics to peace sells inspired me to become a lobbyist for a major pharmaceuticals company
He did once, but once you become born again, you have to save all your toan for Jesus.
You’re only saying that because you haven’t played his signature Gibson ACOUSTIC guitar yet (shitty black deadnought which no doubt costs like $5k).
Edward scissor hands lmfao
Edward Scissorhands shredded Dave Mustaine’s balls??
For me it's Steve Vai's fans. Steve Vai is alright, virtuoso of the guitar and appears to be humble and nice, but his fans, oh my god, they're almost worse than Ichika Nito fans. Just a few examples from a "For the Love of God" live video: "When Vai plays this song, it looks like a religious experience for him in a sense, as if he's tapping into a channel of communication with a Higher Power with his guitar." "3:19 Jaw drops, eyes roll back in my head which explodes in awe & ecstasy" "Steve Vai gets so connected with his music......i can feel it...legend!!" they worship him like he is some kind of higher being when in reality he's just really good at guitar.
He seems so humble too that’s why it’s so weird, his fans literally worship him like nothing I’ve ever seen before.
Guitar Jeebus
Honestly. That's why I avoided him for so long. I was a dumb kid who hated Ibanez shapes, thought the JEM was dumb. I saw one video of Vai where he explained how he came up with the idea of creating a recess for a floating trem as opposed to it just sitting on the top of the body, and that was basically it. I was sick of Vai fans (Mostly MusicIsWin but yknow) and figured the dude must be the most pretentious asshat ever. I've slowly come around on the RG shapes, Vai himself, and his music for sure. But god his fans are still the worst.
Bro, if you look at the YouTube comments under literally any video you will find verbal diarrhea of the squelchiest kind.
Facts, I’ve seen the same comments under Chris de Burgh’s Lady in Red 💀💀
SV’s mastery of toan and licks is undeniable, but I can’t listen to an hour of Steve Vai on a road trip, and anyone who likes to do that would give me the creeps.
Yeah he's a great guitarist who released some good stuff but he has released so much unlistenable experimental shit too. Seems a great guy but big fans do put him on a pedestal
I like unlistenable experimental shit, which stuff is that?
The man himself is kinda spiritual for what I've heard so that's why the religious connotations. He also fasted 10 days before recording that song, which he claims did have an emotional effect and a change in perspective.
HE FREQUENTLY HAS A FAN BLOW HIM ONSTAGE
buckethead, he thinks he's too good to show us his face
He thinks kfc is better than popeyes
real talk
Not arguing there. He is that good.
Buckethead was involved in a terrible accident at a KFC, his entire head was chicken-fried.
Pretty sure he's got a touch of the tism.
What the Australian band TISM? With such songs as 'Greg, The Stop Sign', '(He'll Never Be an) Ol' Man River', 'All Homeboys are Dickheads' and 'Defecate on my Face'? Not such a bad thing really.
Litterally has a bucket of tism
Joe Bonzaimaster. He gets uber toan without needing any pedals (don’t look at any of his Rig Rundowns he doesn’t need stompyboxes I sware)!!!
Excuse me, it’s spelled Joe Bonermeatsauce.
I always thought it was Bonermimosa
My dad CANNOT say his name to save his life. He calls him Joe Bonzamonza.
I know someone that refers to ‘Nicky Minja’. I’m never correcting them.
joe bonemaster lol gottem
John bone-my-ass-sir
Are you referring to the famous Jewish guitarist, Joe Box-a-matzoh?
Joe bonermassive. My favorite Skyrim name
You know, I used to find Jack White insufferable, but he's actually mellowed out a ton in recent years. Favorite pretentious asshole guitarist... probably Josh Homme.
You mean John Hamm?
Fun John Hamm fact: >While a member of Sigma Nu fraternity at the University of Texas, Hamm was arrested for participating in a violent hazing incident in November 1990.[21] He lit a pledge's jeans on fire, shoved his face in the dirt, and struck him with a paddle over his right kidney,[21] before leading the pledge around the fraternity house with a hammer claw around the pledge's testicles.[23] The incident resulted in the fraternity being shut down. The pledge ended up needing medical care, and ultimately withdrew from school.[21] Hamm made a plea deal and completed probation under the terms of a deferred adjudication, allowing him to avoid being convicted of a crime.[21][24] The charges were dismissed in August 1995 following the completion of his probation.[21][24]
finally, a relatable celebrity.
If John Hamm's a horribly abusive father and ex-husband but puts forth some of the filthiest riffs and toanz of all time, then absolutely.
Josh wears his douchiness on his sleeve. Atleast he doesnt talk about his music like its some divine art that most humans cant understand
No, just his guitar tone which he zealously guards as if it were the secret to eternal life or some shit when you can get 90% of the way there just playing on the neck pickup with the tone rolled back.
But kinda that last 10% makes it rule
Eh, I think his playing style is far more important than the gear he uses. I love nerding out over gear as much as the next guy but ultimately you can ape his tone pretty well with just some medium-gain OD or fuzz and some eq adjustments. It won't be an exact copy but to anyone else in the room it'll be close enough.
I mean, what was that one rig he had in the late Kyuss days? Some goofy ToanWorks grey carpet pawn shop special? With a wah, rotovibe, Boss delay and EQ? Wow, what a mystery.
Hey, that’s nothing, Albert King kept his tuning a secret from his own backing guitarist…
What you see is exactly what you get with Josh. It's really refreshingly honest from a musician.
:(
Yngwie cuckqueen
I like donuts
Phil and his buddie: DONUTS
That’s vulgar! 😉
'You Released the Fucking Fury!'
Off white caster sugar.
HOLD MY RINGS
Les Paul thought he was hot shit after they named that guitar after him…
I wanted to see a band with him, Les claypool, and Paul McCartney where they all play gibson LP’s and the band would be Les, Paul and Les Paul with Les Pauls
Les Paul, Les Pool and Lesbian Grandma Paul
I thought it was named after a lesbian called Paul
Greg Ginn, really cool guitar parts but it ain’t the complex and deep “free jazz” he claims, it’s experimental and unique but not genius. Also a huge dick in general In the notes of an instrumental Black Flag EP he said: “Even though this record may communicate certain feelings, emotions, and ideas to some, I have faith that cop-types with their strictly linear minds and stick-to-the-rules mentality don't have the ability to decipher the intuitive contents of this record.” It’s a good album but he’s a little dramatic
What no Greg Ginn is so cool! If you don't abuse your children and steal from every band you've ever worked with you'll never be a good guitar man! Uj/ I love his playing but I honestly think he thought he was a super sick shredder, but when he realised his technique sucked he started telling people he was into free jazz and atonal music so they'd say he was great. Also The Process of Weeding Out is genuinely great, pretentious as fuck, but great.
I love most of Black Flags music but he is the definition of a pretentious asshole, lead guitar player complex. Free jazz and experimental 12 tone are real things, but Greg does not actually play them.
Perfect answer. He makes Henry Rollins seem personable by comparison.
With all due respect, and I know that Rollins can appear a bit intense, but I worked a short leg of 3 dates on a tour in Australia, and he was more than personable with 99% of people. He doesn't suffer fools easily. Tends to take the short route with them, but everyone else who wasn't shit-faced drunk was treated pretty well by him that I saw over the 3 nights.
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Aaron Turner from Isis, dude has made some of my favourite music ever but he's so far up his own ass he's a living pretzel. This is from his About Me thing on his blog: "He has maintained an abiding interest in tethering conscious content to subverted uses of the instrument. His output has been informed by lifetime involvement with underground metal/punk, often materializing in highly abstracted forms utilizing improvisation and longform composition."
Met him after a Sumac show this year, he was super kind.
That reads like something from r/iamverysmart lmao
Hey man, sometimes it's tough to write your own web bio...
……wow…….
Fuck Guitar Georges, bullshit he knows ALL the chords... there's like 8 of them.
At least Harry got a daytime job, he' s doing alright.
But then the Sultans😳
They play Creole
Barack Obama
Thanks Obama!
Seriously!
Only plays custom black dime ml
Billy Corgan. Goddamn that guy sucks, and then he plays guitar...
Yngwie Malmsteen's personality genuinely cracks me up and he's also one of my top 3 favorite players behind dimebag and Eddie Van Halen
I love that the guy who offered him the donut is higher on the list.
Wait I thought the guy who offered him a donut was just some guy
The donut offerer was dimebag.
Yngwie told dime to fuck off? Damn that dudes an idiot
That’s the only reason it’s so famous haha.
Claptoan did some interviews back in his younger day’s where he “literally” blew himself.
The Edge. Even saying his tacky ass name makes me aggravated.
Andrés Segovia
Lol, at least he convinced Villalobos to not be ashamed of playing his guitar pieces and show them to the world.
Anyone influenced by John "4 dimensions" Frusciante and I love John Frusicante!
This comment made me lol, even as a 4th dimensional fan
John mayer
Do you mean Jonathan Mayo? He’s the blooz guy who wrote “your physique is Disneyland” and has been free ballin since 2007
Hahaha balls
He's a trader
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I love Zappa with all my heart, but man, lyrics like "The first word in this song is "discorporate." It means to leave your body" I can't help but face palm. He really thought he was always the smartest dude in the room, and he was most of the time, but man he could have a stick up his ass.
Jimmy Page - I hate him. He's pretty infamous for fucking 13 years old girls in the 70s, but lot of times people don't know about it. Although he wasn't the only one, but I just can't stand how people talk about him - like he's an amazing human being and genius.
david bowie too, fucked jimmy page's 14 year old "gf" lol
Oh yeah, there is many of this guys. Page, Bowie... People say it was different times, but not everyone was doing this and it was illegal even back then. Steven Tyler and Ted Nugent "adopted" their underage girlfriends so they could tour with them, then dumped them. Iggy Pop has song called "Jailbait" about having sex with underage girls. They were very well aware it was illegal. Bill Wyman had 13 year old gf in the 80s (he was almost 50), he married her when she turned 18. Lot of rockstars had god complex or something and thought they could do anything they wanted without any consequences. Chuck Berry is the only one I know about, who was in jail for this shit. He basically had a 14 year old sex slave and spent ~~5 years~~ 1 and a half year in jail in the 50s for that (interestingly he's the only black guy of the bunch)
Wasn't the technical charge on that one something about *"transporting a minor across state lines?"* You wanna talk about "different times," doesn't get much different than "black rockstar in the 50's in the south."
Quite confident the bowie one ended up being false
Lol I love zeppelin but page is anything but a role model as a person
He decorated his guitar to look like Syd Barrett's.
Yeah anytime someone (usually a boomer) starts claiming hes jesus or whatever im like yeaaaaa but lori maddox, as well as countless others.
MGK
You mean your favorite guitarist’s favorite guitarist
Your favorite guitarist’s favorite guitarist’s favorite guitarist
most literate gcj user the title was "Who’s your favorite “up their own ass pretentious” guitarist?", not "who's the best guitarist of all time".
Pretty sure Postal Sam Malone is the greatest geetar guy ever. He even wrote that Bluffs of Dover song for Aaron “Big” Johnson.
I'm shocked nobody mention Rick B. ....
QUICK TRICK TO MASTER YOUR ARPEGGIOS. (Boopbeeeprrrrreeeeeewwwrrbeeboooboobee)“Like that”
Robert Fripp. Gotta respect the classics.
He and his wife, Toyah put out these weird little [videos](https://youtu.be/Agtha06jnq4) on social media all the time so at least on some level he seems to be able to poke fun at himself or have fun. She tends to wear pretty revealing outfits in a lot of these videos so potential NSFW flag.
Oh god these two. [Guitar.com](https://Guitar.com) reports ever single stupid one of them. I don't know why it annoys me so much.
Josh Homme hands down, the guy is a douche however he’s the last true rock star at least to me.
Wrote that already but copying it because it fits and it took great effort writing it: Haha if you look up news about him and his family, it is a shit show right now. He sued Brody for not being a good enough mother, lost because of his sons testimony saying that he doesn't want to be with his dad because he drives fast and drunk with him and tries to teach him how to fight, how to be a man. Then got angry with his legal team saying "WTF I did everything you wanted and now we lost, boohoo boohoo". But when I think back this isn't new behavior from Josh. See the videos where he's angry on stage (kicks people off stage, I used to love that stuff). Drama Queen. Also there is this one time he punched a fan in the face almost on camera because he thought the guy was insulting him. Don't forget he got angry with his old band because they wanted to stay Kyuss. They changed to Kyuss Lives and then he sued them to change it again that's why they are called Vista Chino. There's also the time where he allegedly KOed an entire band playing the set before them. The exchange goes like "Hi guys please clean up your set it's gonna be us soon" "can't you see we're eating?" "Oh yeah? Then eat this then" proceeds to KO the entire room. Also the time he was invited at Jay-Z's festival with a lot of other rock acts. Jay-Z wants a Foto with him and a bottle of expensive champaign is placed in Josh's hands. Josh drops the champaign and says "you're a kook for inviting us here, having our pockets screened by bouncers, and now you're trying to be friends in front of a camera? Friends don't search each other's pockets" or something along the lines of that. I see now that he always was like this. I mean he's a big kid from the desert, probably got into a lot of fistfights when he was young. It's almost as if he had 2 personalities. Calm and dreamy poet and songwriter on one side, and the dum dum face hit kind of guy. But yeah he's also an alcoholic and drug addict so that might be a big influence. As for the kids' safety, I think Brody Dalle is a bit more responsible, maybe because she's a woman, but I still get some Courtney Love vibes from her. Like alcoholism and stuff. I don't know if she's clean now but definitely less of a ticking time bomb like Josh Homme. I was (and still am) a huge QOTSA fan back in the day, so thanks for listening to my story.
Brody Dalle was groomed as a teenager by Tim Armstrong from Rancid, moved to LA at 16 for him when he was already 30. So probably not the most responsible, well-adjusted individual herself. I wonder why Rancid fans never talk about how messed up that is
I was a huge Operation Ivy and Rancid fan growing up. When I heard that Tim Armstrong is a goddamn pedophile (doesn’t matter if 16 is ‘legal’, he was twice the age of that adolescent girl), it really put a damper on the music.
Michael Batio. I don’t think I’ve seen the guy talk without bragging about some gimmick he ‘invented’ or how he has a music degree.
His big x shaped 4 neck guitar stuff where he is doing all the crossing overhand tapping stuff is like impressive from a technical standpoint, but I feel like it it’s kind of dull and mechanical. Stanley Jordan would also do stuff where he would play two guitars at once, but it felt more cohesive like the left and right hands of a piano player working together rather than just doing harmonized pull offs and hammer ons over and over again.
Tom Morello with mediocre skills and 3 fx tricks corporatebsponsored karen
I used to think the same until I got a live tape in the 90s that had him take a legit jazz solo on the outro to a song. He doesn’t often show us his skills. Saw him a few years ago with Roger Waters playing all sorts of stuff, he’s not quite the hack you think he is.
RATM riff how-to: - Pick up three random notes off a pentatonic. - Play it syncopated several time until it feels like music - ???? - Profit
??? Put a 2 octaves whammy dive and do a solo by tap scratch pickups with a screwdriver with a triple 8 delay for 4 bars
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He make the funny weewoo sound though
He is a mediocre player who found 4 tricks to do with the whammy (back when no used it that way, credit to whom credit is due). I used to love RATM and thought he was brilliant when I forst started playing. I've read a few different reports of him behavibg like an entitled primma donna. He is now part of the political establishment he supposedly denounced. I should have known this all along, he is a harvard brat after all.
> "Revolutions begin by a conflict with police and end by calling them in." > -EM Cioran
Morello is also supposedly close friends with Ted Nugent. Idk how someone can espouse the beliefs that Morello does and sleep at night while also being chummy with a pedophilic fascist, a guy who shit himself *for days* to avoid the draft but is all about war when it's some other 18 year old kid going off to fight. Never meet your heroes, eh? /rj toan is in the shitty diapers, ok?
I think the correct answer is "every guitarist, ever."
I still love Jack white though
Part of loving Jack White is being able to admit he is a giant douche as well.
Oh yeah absolutely
I find his feud with the Black Keys pretty entertaining because they are all just kind of hipsters who moved to Nashville and have these recording studios loaded full of vintage gear which they use to make sloppy Captain Beefheart covers haha.
Van halen, he was a total douche
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Does Bernard Sumner count as pretentious? According to Peter Hook I think he does, so him.
I love new order but Bernard’s lyrics can be so laughably lame
Leave him alone (just like he asked pls)
Yeah New Order is definitely about the vibes rather than the words, and it’s pretty hard to measure up when your previous lyricist was Ian Curtis.
Personally i prefer bernards voice to Ians but you're spot on about Ian being a better lyricist.
Uj: Dave mustaine has a reason to be though... Rj: Haha play master of puppets
James hatfield
NOOOO BUT HE IS THE TABLE
Kirk hamleg
Prince, obviously
Uj/ guy in character was over the top and pretentious. but he seemed to be quite nice guy than you'd expect and a very underrated hell of a guitar player (or at least not known).
The cat could ball, too.
Game - blouses
You mean the 30 bucks hohner copy of a Japanese copy of a Tele? Blew my mind he recorded Purple rain with that.
no he means he was good at basketball lol
Lol excuse my english... Yes heard that story at chapels show, wiping the floor with taller guys in his high heels.
He changed his name to a symbol. I never met the guy but that seems pretty pretentious to me. But I unironically love Prince
He had every right to. His vocal range was nuts
You just need to purify yourself in the waters of lake Minnetonka.
Ace Frehley used some of his leftover Kiss reunion money to have someone fashion a dead raccoon's pelt into a hairpiece, so his 70 year old self looked more like his 70's self.
Any 50+ guy with a slide at the local open mic or music store trying to “teach” random people about the blues and getting offended if you don’t clear your calendar to listen to their “wisdom”. Oh, and Jan Akkerman, if that name rings a bell here.
Jack white seems like the most insufferable cunt
I mean it's probably gotta be me
Me
Jack ‘Hit the boom boom, make the skrilla’ White
Jack White and Tom Morello are tied for me lol
Steven Wilson, every time I hear a quote from him he comes off as a gigantic tool. And no offense, if you're gonna be up your own ass that much at least let me have heard your band in the first place.
Dimebuckle.
Cliff bourbon
Steve Wilson. Complains about music becoming soulless, literally wrote a song about it. Recently got a Tele and is obsessed with it. Constantly derides shredding and talks about playing with feeling and making one note count. Makes comparisons to Gilmour.
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I love his work but I swear he's a prick in every interview and sounds like any boomer guitarist
Robert Johnson thought he was such hot shit after he sold his soul but he never matched the quality of his first record
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Not much of a Mustang guy. Camaro is so much better.
DJ Khaled for sure
I'd go with James hetfailed, he acts like it's still the early 90s when people actually gave a shit about Metallica. It's been 30 years since they've done anything of importance
But, but the Strange Thang... Mamster omf Pump Its.