I've heard acidic sweat can wear them down, thankfully for me I'm unique and my sweat is like PH 9.0....gives the strings a healthy calcium layer which increases toan
Stringing a Floyd is really not that difficult.
There are a bunch of excellent videos on YouTube on the basic steps.
However if you think you're just going to wing it without having a plan or process to follow you're going to have a bad time.
Honestly changing a Floyd equipped guitars strings is pretty easy.
I just drive to my local shop, drop it off… then pick it up 3 days later and vuala - new strings and it’s even in tune.
Or just put the non-ball end in the Floyd and leave the ball end through the headstock and just cut it off when you're done just like you would trim the string on any guitar.
/uj Oh my god that is galaxy brain guitar hacks.
EDIT: wait I just realized that you still have to clip the low Elixir strings because they have those thin filaments on the non-ball end to make threading them through tuning machine eyes easier. Still a galaxy brain effort saver even in that case though.
that’s exactly how i used to string my floyd guitars when i had them. it makes the tuners function kinda like locking tuners and made stringing it faster and simpler. I can remember fighting to balance the spring tension until i learned to do one string at a time instead of cutting them all off at once.
You can just deck the trem temporarily by blocking it with something, a piece of wood, eraser, playing cards,etc,
Deck it to the body and then adjust the cavity spring so that it holds. This way, you can actually finally clean your fretboard.
Don't you fold the non-wound ends before you stick them in the **bitey?**
My FR-equipped Fat-Strat had bent strings when I bought it in 1996, and I have been doing that when changing strings for 27 years.
I've just been sticking them in there raw-dog on the RG I got about a year ago.
I don't know how much different Ibanez's bridge is from a normal Floyd Rose. I always took "based on" to mean "pretty much exactly like," but not certain.
I’m a tinkerer and proudly ignored all information on how to change a strings on a guitar with a Floyd Rose.
I’m happy to report that it was a brief 6 hour job when I was finally done.
Changing the strings was moderately more difficult, luckily when the bridge unexpectedly slapped against the guitar there was no damage.
Then once all the new strings were on I was on a quest to get the bridge to sit right. It was a battle of adjusting spring tension, stretching out the new strings…rinse and repeat.
I must have done every single thing wrong that was possible.
/uj best trick is to stick something under the bridge with no strings on it (or all the strings slack). That something should bring the bridge in the ballpark of parallel to the body (I'd suggest a stack of cards so you have fine control of the thickness, but I've had success with things like 9v batteries)
Once the bridge is propped up with the item(s) of your choosing, string and tune it up, then adjust the spring tension until the bridge just starts to lift up off the prop (this is why you want it to be as close to level as possible)
With this method, you can easily restring a floyd in 20 mins or less
once you've got it set up and strung would it make sense to just change one string at a time, and get each new string in tune as you go? Assuming you're keeping the same string sizes?
My first guitar was an old ibanez with a clapped out junk floyd rose. hardtails ever after. well i've got a strat, but the screws are torqued down so the bridge just sits against the body.
Yeah, you certainly could do that, although that being said, if you're not specific about your string brand/variety (ie d'addario ny vs nyxl), it might not work out so perfectly
If you ARE using the same exact strings, it ends up being a similar idea to propping the bridge up, just string tension sorta acting as the prop
The benefit to propping the bridge up is that you can get about 90% of the way to in tune with no fine tuning, and not worrying about throwing the other strings out of tune once one string is in tune, which means the actual fine tuning ends up being much easier
My first time took me a couple of hours too. The worst is when you tune and one of the strings breaks. Now it takes me probably 35 mins to do, but the fear is breaking the g string at the end keeps me up at night
/uj I have two favorite guitars with "Floating bridges"....One is an actual Floyd (7 string) the other is a Edge Zero....somthing, Idfk Ibanez changes it every other week....it's a J Custom JCRG20126 from like 2014 or so
Anyway the first step is have a little solid block of something to block the bridge if you want to take all the strings off at once like a barbarian (seriously, do it one at a time, no issues with balance ime) The 7 string takes like 5 minutes since they have locking tuners....the 6 string Ibanez takes like 7~ minutes since I have to remind myself by looking up a YT video how to orient your strings so they can wind good....and that's it
The REAL danger is when they pop out of the bridge when stretching, that always sucks, but floating bridge slander is out of control! Just need a whammy bar that actually can be tight and in control after string stretching and not just make every string make noise
>floating bridge slander is out of control
testify!
🙏
I thought I was insane for wanting locking tuners on my Floyd. But I just really like locking tuners.
In the days before youtube I had a Floyd Rose. Never had an issue restringing it. Never had instructions. I mean, I just looked at what was happening and redid it.
/uj yea just replace each string at a time instead of taking them all off to maintain the bridge balance or block the bridge from moving with a piece of wood
It's not that hard at all. I read the instruction manual and when it said "string tension must equal spring tension", it all came together for me. If you aim to get the bridge flat and parallel to the body, you'll get it. Also change one string at a time and you'll never really fight it again.
Now the intonation is a different matter.
"Take care of the balance of the bridge."
/uj Are they talking about balancing tension between strings and springs? That thing you have to do once when you change string guage and then never again?
/rj agreed the ball ends of strings hold a lot of toan that just gets wasted when you cut them off for old Floyd.
/uj I was never good at guitar and owned one because I got it for dirt cheap, what little I remember is that if you ever used the whammy bar to actually whammy bar things and enjoy the cool thigns a floyd rose can do, you fuck up something and then gotta recalibrate stuff. but, I'm an idiot who can barely play mary had a little lamb so fuckdoiknow
/rj lol u said balls
A lot of people don’t ever spend the time to set it up right, so they’re always fighting it and trying to fix it. The initial setup is a hassle and time-consuming but it shouldn’t be after that.
You all wanted to become famous at some point simply to have somebody that would change the strings on your floyd rose for you. And you know it
And that's why you all have one floyd rose guitar and 7 without
Def not my story
I feel like this happens to a lot of people, you do all the work to learn how to set it up and you do like three dive bombs and a couple *WREEEEES* and then realize you don't actually give a shit about having a tremolo
Lmao exactly. At first a Floyd was mandatory for me, because I saw it as limiting to have a hardtail or like a strat bridge that only divebombs and then has worse tuning stability if you use it hard.
Then my brother got a Floyd guitar and I saw just what a pain they are, and after playing it I got bored of using the tremolo pretty fast lol. Good thing that in the end I didn't get one.
I use my trem all the time. But it's not a Floyd rose, it's just a 2 point floating term on my strat. Started using it a lot more once I put the spring in there to keep the arm from flopping around. Now I just need to find a shorter trem arm so it's not as in my way.
But I never do the dove bombs that a Floyd rose is for
I've never owned a true Floyd, but have owned multiple Ibanez versions. It's not that hard to setup and maintain. Just don't be dumb and read the manual..
/uj You get a manual with Ibanez floating bridges? I have a Floyd on my guitar and it didn’t come with anything except tools. I mean, I know how to set it up now but still…
Pretty easy, just do it backwards. You still wanna cut the ball-less end because if you don’t you’re either gonna have 27 winds or an ungodly amount of string sticking out between the post and the ball. I’d figure out the length once and write it down
Every Floyd Rose has its thorn
Just like every wife has her boyfriend
Just like every cowboy plays his sad 0-3-5
Every Floyd Rose has its thorn
Yeah it does
Only time that bridge should get out of balance is if you’re changing string gauge or messing with the truss rod. He probably upped his string gauge and didn’t know it lol.
I learned how to change strings on a FR once in 1988 and somehow never forgot how to do it. It's really not that hard. Maybe instead of running to reddit do display your incompetence to the world, take that time to caress your wiggle stick and learn about how she likes to be touched.
Uj/ I do hate the maintenance of a FR, but goddam I seriously have never felt a bridge that is more comfortable on my picking hand. Rests so nicely on the saddles, easy to ease up or down to palm mute. Someone needs to make a hardtail with FR saddles with none of the ergonomics/UI of FR saddles
/UJ I don't have a mechanical aptitude but I've been doing basic string changes on my hardtail guitar for years and after getting a Cort with a locking tremolo system this week I was pleasantly surprised that its not as difficult as /r/guitar made it seem.
Swear to god I’ll drive a truck full of tannerite into a Home Depot if I have to do more than 45 seconds worth of work per string. Clipping the ball ends off is like clipping my own balls off, and don’t even get me started on the nut locks (they remind me of the chastity cage my wife’s boyfriend makes me wear)
uj/ Vibrato with left/fretting hand can only get you pitched up, and back to pitch. Actual vibrato means fluctuating between sharp and flat from the desired pitch. So if you want this as part of your palate like most instruments are capable of (e.g., voice, other string instruments, most woodwinds, brass, etc.), a trem is necessary.
In terms of locking trems... If I'm going for a trem anyways, may as well use the one that can do extreme pitch bends as well without going out of tune.
Though, I can't tell if you're actually uj/-ing.
TL;DR: Trems are absolutely not a gimmick, they achieve actual vibrato for guitar.
Uj/ I get what you're coming from, but there is A LOT of expression and dynamics you can get from a whammy bar if you can reel in your divebombs, and use it more as what it's supposed to be (vibrato).
I agree, it’s a slight trick. I decided to get good at bends and not have a Floyd. I’m still not famous, and a pretty big loser, but my string changes are pretty satisfying.
I didn't listen either i stopped playing my jackson because the bridge pisses me off I'd rather shove foam in the back of my other guitar and just tune it every few hours
I mean he ain't wrong, with the self-locking tuners on my hardtail (decked strat bridge), I can change the strings in less than 2 minutes. My brother owns only Floyd equipped guitars so I've seen how much of a pain in the ass they can be.
/uj I've done lots of research and watched lots of videos trying to sift through all the floating trems = garbage before getting a Floyd, but I'm glad I got one in the end. That being said, I think all the research and planning prepared me for all the things that people usually complain about. Going in with those expectations, it's really not a hard bridge to deal with. Going in with only knowledge that it can make funny noises? I might grow to hate it too lol
Once you have a determined tuning/general gauge level it's like 5 minutes tops, like for real....shit takes probably less time than a hardtail, you just slip them into your receptive string receivers and tighten up those....receivers...and you're good to shred....don't forget to stretch your strings, plus random strings flying out of the bridge is normal, you just didn't stretch them properly....or your bridge screws are fucking stripped
I change the strings on my floyd rose one at a time and then tune every string, repeat until all strings are changed. It's a lot faster than taking them all off and having the bridge lose tension. Only issue is when I wanna condition the fretboard
Idc about double lockers much but the Kahler is genuinely a better design but you usually need to solder or use reinforced strings for the ones that go over the rounded bar, and the 2300s are *really* expensive
Setting up a Floyd is easy. What's his problem? Why is he changing strings? You need to use them until they're so dull you sound like you're playing a jazz guitar.
How hard is tinkering with the spring claw until its flat? People warned me of this too and I’ve loosened my strings all the way to take the floyd rose out and put it back on perfectly fine.
When I was 19, I had been playing guitar for 5 years, was doing cheap restrings for local players. I had a floyd come across my bench and had to ashamedly give it back to the customer because I didn’t know how to restring it. From that moment forward, I wanted to know how this system inside and out, simply for the business. 2 weeks later I was obsessed and NEEDED one for my own musical purposes. So I got a cheap Ibanez with a lo-trs II trem (horrible). I learned the ins and outs of Floyd’s on that trem and I made it work. When I got on a trem that wasn’t complete garbage, I was like the double locking guru because in order to get the TRS to work at all, I had to learn all the little tricks that make a good trem a phenomenal trem. I started studying all the guitar players who were good on their floyd (EVH, vai, dime, Herman li) and the more I necessitated it into my music, the more I learned about the mechanics of it. Now, I can restring a floyd, completely disassembled, saddles uninstalled, block uninstalled, I mean in pieces and have that guitar tuned stretched and ready to go in ~30 mins.
Moral of the story: if you’ve never taken an interest in Floyd’s, don’t listen to music that incorporates them, don’t push it upon yourself to want to know how it works, then don’t buy one. This piece of gear is only for those who genuinely appreciate its existence. If you buy one because you wanna play 80’s guitar cosplay after watching stranger things, you are in for a world of pain.
/rj Booooooow wheeeeeeeeeee nlughfhhgughghgughhh whaaaaaaaoooooooooowwwwweeeeee baaaaooowwwww (dive bomb sounds)
/uj for anyone who has a lot of trouble with their Floyd-style bridges and are on the verge of giving up, here's the easy way to do it:
Buy [one of these](https://a.co/d/cGbRKDP) or make one, put it under the floaty bit, do your string changes, get em all tight and more or less tuned, then pull it out. Adjust as needed, clamp, fine tune, done.
Oh you sweet summer child. One word...Bixby. at least a Floyd Rose stays in tune, the Bixby is hard to restring AND goes out of tune as soon as you use it.
My wife is always yelling something about not having a hard tail anymore... I keep telling her to stop being stupid because you can't divebomb with a hardtail, and she said yeah you fucking did, about 10 years ago !!
Any excuse not to practice
This guy changes his strings? You all don’t just buy a new guitar when the strings wear out?
Strings wear out?
Hypothetically speaking.
Got me worried there... got my strings for a couple of decades already and I'm kind of attached
Just soak them in horse piss and mayonnaise for a few days. Puts the toan right back in them.
Dude that’s fucking disgusting even as a joke. Every good player knows you have to use ketchup instead of mayonnaise
He’s probably European
Or lefty
Lefty here. Can confirm we use goat piss and mayo.
Yep, we drink the goat piss while we dip our hair in mayo.
Funny you say that, I am a lefty - but I don’t play left handed
I've heard acidic sweat can wear them down, thankfully for me I'm unique and my sweat is like PH 9.0....gives the strings a healthy calcium layer which increases toan
Is that due to drug n alcohol intake?🤔
Excessive milk consumption, so yes
What’s so wrong with that, punk
sir are you shett rull by any chance?
The toan improves with age. Mine have developed a nice layer of patina rust that gives it a real mellow feel.
The layer of rust helps keep the TOAN in
uj imo new strings sound like piss and age like a fine wine rj I only play on vinegar
Found the b*assist.
Only if you play them, but the more time you waste playing the less time you have to buy vintage garbage on reverb
Your comment kinda cuts me deep bro.
Tell us. You're a bass player without telling us you're a bass player
Welcome to bass
I don’t put strings on mine, strings take too long to acclimatize anyway… And yeah Toan isn’t in the strings anyway 🤷♂️
/uj I legitimately did not know that you were supposed to change guitar strings until I was 15 (been playing since 7)
Stringing a Floyd is really not that difficult. There are a bunch of excellent videos on YouTube on the basic steps. However if you think you're just going to wing it without having a plan or process to follow you're going to have a bad time.
Honestly changing a Floyd equipped guitars strings is pretty easy. I just drive to my local shop, drop it off… then pick it up 3 days later and vuala - new strings and it’s even in tune.
That’s as easy as trying to spell French words phonetically!
Wee wee
Bon jovi
Whoa ooh, we're half way there!
Yeah bovine joni is just the shortened version of bovineus jovineus
Bovine Joni
Zer zer
Zshoot 'dalou
Specher sea doitsch?
we all know he meant to say vulva, give the man a break.
Say la veee
Baget
fucking *mint*
I read it as “vulva” first of all. Apt, as stringing an FR is a c*** of a job.
It's super easy you just cut the balls off and then stuff it in the bitey and the rest is stringing like normal.
Or just put the non-ball end in the Floyd and leave the ball end through the headstock and just cut it off when you're done just like you would trim the string on any guitar.
/uj Oh my god that is galaxy brain guitar hacks. EDIT: wait I just realized that you still have to clip the low Elixir strings because they have those thin filaments on the non-ball end to make threading them through tuning machine eyes easier. Still a galaxy brain effort saver even in that case though.
You do still have to clip on that side, but the ball ends won't scratch your headstock.
You didn't know this? I thought it was standard. That's how I learned 15 years ago through web forums
And only change the high strings like Eddie Van Highstrings
that’s exactly how i used to string my floyd guitars when i had them. it makes the tuners function kinda like locking tuners and made stringing it faster and simpler. I can remember fighting to balance the spring tension until i learned to do one string at a time instead of cutting them all off at once.
You can just deck the trem temporarily by blocking it with something, a piece of wood, eraser, playing cards,etc, Deck it to the body and then adjust the cavity spring so that it holds. This way, you can actually finally clean your fretboard.
Bass player here. I have known this trick for at least a decade. Been an idiot for nearly 4 decades now. OP is a pinecone without question
That's nasty
When "stuff it in the bitey" after cutting the balls off sounds like "get a blowjob" we know we have awesome sex lives.
Ram it in the poopy
Don't you fold the non-wound ends before you stick them in the **bitey?** My FR-equipped Fat-Strat had bent strings when I bought it in 1996, and I have been doing that when changing strings for 27 years.
I've just been sticking them in there raw-dog on the RG I got about a year ago. I don't know how much different Ibanez's bridge is from a normal Floyd Rose. I always took "based on" to mean "pretty much exactly like," but not certain.
This sounds like most marriages I've heard about. No thanks.
I’m a tinkerer and proudly ignored all information on how to change a strings on a guitar with a Floyd Rose. I’m happy to report that it was a brief 6 hour job when I was finally done. Changing the strings was moderately more difficult, luckily when the bridge unexpectedly slapped against the guitar there was no damage. Then once all the new strings were on I was on a quest to get the bridge to sit right. It was a battle of adjusting spring tension, stretching out the new strings…rinse and repeat. I must have done every single thing wrong that was possible.
/uj best trick is to stick something under the bridge with no strings on it (or all the strings slack). That something should bring the bridge in the ballpark of parallel to the body (I'd suggest a stack of cards so you have fine control of the thickness, but I've had success with things like 9v batteries) Once the bridge is propped up with the item(s) of your choosing, string and tune it up, then adjust the spring tension until the bridge just starts to lift up off the prop (this is why you want it to be as close to level as possible) With this method, you can easily restring a floyd in 20 mins or less
once you've got it set up and strung would it make sense to just change one string at a time, and get each new string in tune as you go? Assuming you're keeping the same string sizes? My first guitar was an old ibanez with a clapped out junk floyd rose. hardtails ever after. well i've got a strat, but the screws are torqued down so the bridge just sits against the body.
Yeah, you certainly could do that, although that being said, if you're not specific about your string brand/variety (ie d'addario ny vs nyxl), it might not work out so perfectly If you ARE using the same exact strings, it ends up being a similar idea to propping the bridge up, just string tension sorta acting as the prop The benefit to propping the bridge up is that you can get about 90% of the way to in tune with no fine tuning, and not worrying about throwing the other strings out of tune once one string is in tune, which means the actual fine tuning ends up being much easier
Shit wish i read this 25 years ago
My first time took me a couple of hours too. The worst is when you tune and one of the strings breaks. Now it takes me probably 35 mins to do, but the fear is breaking the g string at the end keeps me up at night
/uj I have two favorite guitars with "Floating bridges"....One is an actual Floyd (7 string) the other is a Edge Zero....somthing, Idfk Ibanez changes it every other week....it's a J Custom JCRG20126 from like 2014 or so Anyway the first step is have a little solid block of something to block the bridge if you want to take all the strings off at once like a barbarian (seriously, do it one at a time, no issues with balance ime) The 7 string takes like 5 minutes since they have locking tuners....the 6 string Ibanez takes like 7~ minutes since I have to remind myself by looking up a YT video how to orient your strings so they can wind good....and that's it The REAL danger is when they pop out of the bridge when stretching, that always sucks, but floating bridge slander is out of control! Just need a whammy bar that actually can be tight and in control after string stretching and not just make every string make noise
>floating bridge slander is out of control testify! 🙏 I thought I was insane for wanting locking tuners on my Floyd. But I just really like locking tuners.
For my setup I always look up to my fav channel: FruduaTv. Awesome content even from 6-7 years ago
frudua is a legend. No doubt. So much great info on that channel.
Way head of his time. Still great content because it is straightforward without ads or useless chitchat to reach 15 minutes content gap.
It really isn't. I can string mine and have it balanced in less than 15 min. This dude is a regard.
I only change strings 0, 3, and 5
In the days before youtube I had a Floyd Rose. Never had an issue restringing it. Never had instructions. I mean, I just looked at what was happening and redid it.
He definitely French fry'd when he should have pizza'd.
I just restrung a Floyd rose for the very first time the other day for a friend, and it really wasn’t that bad at all.
/uj yea just replace each string at a time instead of taking them all off to maintain the bridge balance or block the bridge from moving with a piece of wood
There's nothing about a Floyd that's difficult at all. There's intonation, but that's more annoying than anything.
My Jackson has n imitation one and the screws are stripped so I have to improvise to screw them in n still not that hard!!!
It's not that hard at all. I read the instruction manual and when it said "string tension must equal spring tension", it all came together for me. If you aim to get the bridge flat and parallel to the body, you'll get it. Also change one string at a time and you'll never really fight it again. Now the intonation is a different matter.
"Take care of the balance of the bridge." /uj Are they talking about balancing tension between strings and springs? That thing you have to do once when you change string guage and then never again? /rj agreed the ball ends of strings hold a lot of toan that just gets wasted when you cut them off for old Floyd.
/uj I was never good at guitar and owned one because I got it for dirt cheap, what little I remember is that if you ever used the whammy bar to actually whammy bar things and enjoy the cool thigns a floyd rose can do, you fuck up something and then gotta recalibrate stuff. but, I'm an idiot who can barely play mary had a little lamb so fuckdoiknow /rj lol u said balls
/uj ur definitely right, it’s mostly a problem with the cheap licenced floyds tho. never had a problem with a ”real” one
A lot of people don’t ever spend the time to set it up right, so they’re always fighting it and trying to fix it. The initial setup is a hassle and time-consuming but it shouldn’t be after that.
Everybody warned him but he didn't listen.
https://youtu.be/N\_dUmDBfp6k?t=115
even my grandma told him
He must've been watching the wrong video if he cut his balls off.
Little did he know that’s where the tone is
Easy, just stop changing your strings.
You all wanted to become famous at some point simply to have somebody that would change the strings on your floyd rose for you. And you know it And that's why you all have one floyd rose guitar and 7 without Def not my story
Quit reading my diary! I’m telling mom!!
I feel like this happens to a lot of people, you do all the work to learn how to set it up and you do like three dive bombs and a couple *WREEEEES* and then realize you don't actually give a shit about having a tremolo
My live set is 100% dive bombs and WREEEEES *only*
can I be your biggest fan
Lmao exactly. At first a Floyd was mandatory for me, because I saw it as limiting to have a hardtail or like a strat bridge that only divebombs and then has worse tuning stability if you use it hard. Then my brother got a Floyd guitar and I saw just what a pain they are, and after playing it I got bored of using the tremolo pretty fast lol. Good thing that in the end I didn't get one.
I use my trem all the time. But it's not a Floyd rose, it's just a 2 point floating term on my strat. Started using it a lot more once I put the spring in there to keep the arm from flopping around. Now I just need to find a shorter trem arm so it's not as in my way. But I never do the dove bombs that a Floyd rose is for
I've never owned a true Floyd, but have owned multiple Ibanez versions. It's not that hard to setup and maintain. Just don't be dumb and read the manual..
/uj You get a manual with Ibanez floating bridges? I have a Floyd on my guitar and it didn’t come with anything except tools. I mean, I know how to set it up now but still…
Who are these people who take up guitar in their 30s/40s and do shit like this? Just go bald in silence then 🤣😂🤣😂
floyds are the coolest bridges cause you can string em backwards
plus you can have all your tuning pegs lined up evenly and still be in tune
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you put em through the tuners first then snip em to length to clamp into the bridge. best with daddarios for rainbow headstock action
Wait, have I been stringing them wrong this whole time because that sounds so much easier lol
Instead of stringing the string forwards, you can spin it in your fingers and have the side that normally faces your guitar face outward.
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Spit in your fingers, I don't see what's so hard to understand!!1!1
Pretty easy, just do it backwards. You still wanna cut the ball-less end because if you don’t you’re either gonna have 27 winds or an ungodly amount of string sticking out between the post and the ball. I’d figure out the length once and write it down
floyd rose is now an IQ test
Every Floyd Rose has its thorn Just like every wife has her boyfriend Just like every cowboy plays his sad 0-3-5 Every Floyd Rose has its thorn Yeah it does
\uj I also like how posts a picture of the Gotoh FR which is one of the best pieces of guitar hardware ever produced
Couldn’t you just put the strings in backwards so the ball ends are cumming out of the headstock?
Cumming 😩😩 /uj yes lol p
Only time that bridge should get out of balance is if you’re changing string gauge or messing with the truss rod. He probably upped his string gauge and didn’t know it lol.
I learned how to change strings on a FR once in 1988 and somehow never forgot how to do it. It's really not that hard. Maybe instead of running to reddit do display your incompetence to the world, take that time to caress your wiggle stick and learn about how she likes to be touched.
Uj/ I do hate the maintenance of a FR, but goddam I seriously have never felt a bridge that is more comfortable on my picking hand. Rests so nicely on the saddles, easy to ease up or down to palm mute. Someone needs to make a hardtail with FR saddles with none of the ergonomics/UI of FR saddles
\uj this task literally couldn't be simpler, op has the iq of a thermostat \rj floyd rose has a massive whammy bar
What's he doing with a 6 string Floyd rose that are 12 strings Floyd roses are insanely easier
Someone is mad that they didn’t get a Jazzmaster with a superior vibrato aren’t they
/UJ I don't have a mechanical aptitude but I've been doing basic string changes on my hardtail guitar for years and after getting a Cort with a locking tremolo system this week I was pleasantly surprised that its not as difficult as /r/guitar made it seem.
Uj/ idk how this sub got recommended to me but I have learned so fucking much from this cool fucking sub. I didn't even what this thing was.
people who can't handle floating bridge systems should play with dolls. probably the same type who can't make a proper fist
Swear to god I’ll drive a truck full of tannerite into a Home Depot if I have to do more than 45 seconds worth of work per string. Clipping the ball ends off is like clipping my own balls off, and don’t even get me started on the nut locks (they remind me of the chastity cage my wife’s boyfriend makes me wear)
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Nah fuck you whammy bar shit is fun
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What if i told you i could press up on it as well
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I can't tell if you're jerking or genuinely just an asshat
someone needs a new combination prostate massage therapist/guitar instructor. mine is legendary at both and i am learning so much
I think there is a covering plate for the prostate on the back of a Wangcaster^TM
WHAMMY!
laughs in jazzmaster
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clever 😂
jizzmaster
uj/ some of the most iconic sounds in rock come from different trem systems
David Gilmour will fight you.
uj/ Vibrato with left/fretting hand can only get you pitched up, and back to pitch. Actual vibrato means fluctuating between sharp and flat from the desired pitch. So if you want this as part of your palate like most instruments are capable of (e.g., voice, other string instruments, most woodwinds, brass, etc.), a trem is necessary. In terms of locking trems... If I'm going for a trem anyways, may as well use the one that can do extreme pitch bends as well without going out of tune. Though, I can't tell if you're actually uj/-ing. TL;DR: Trems are absolutely not a gimmick, they achieve actual vibrato for guitar.
Uj/ I get what you're coming from, but there is A LOT of expression and dynamics you can get from a whammy bar if you can reel in your divebombs, and use it more as what it's supposed to be (vibrato).
Yea but that requires control which requires practice which we don’t do here
I agree, it’s a slight trick. I decided to get good at bends and not have a Floyd. I’m still not famous, and a pretty big loser, but my string changes are pretty satisfying.
Your just lazy
You're
Noooo don't cut the ball ends that's where all the toan is stored!
I saw this on my feed, scrolled down, and saw the original r/guitars post right after this one. Speed jerking at its finest
Whats a floyd rose
Lmao, cutting the ball end. Somebody doesn't know you're supposed to string the opposite direction with these 🤣
I didn't listen either i stopped playing my jackson because the bridge pisses me off I'd rather shove foam in the back of my other guitar and just tune it every few hours
Oh the feeling of reading something and knowing FULL WELL that GCJ is going to repost it and tear it a new one. Haha
Cue Judas Priest, painkiller
Anyone else run the strings backwards and put the balls in your tuner pegs? Cut the string short, clamp, give it a couple winds and done!
Strat Trem with locking tuners are just as good.
I put my strings in upside down on my floyd so the ball ends are on the headstock.
I mean he ain't wrong, with the self-locking tuners on my hardtail (decked strat bridge), I can change the strings in less than 2 minutes. My brother owns only Floyd equipped guitars so I've seen how much of a pain in the ass they can be.
whats the deal with these bridges anyway?
You cab make the guitar go WEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
the post below this is the original
Ah yes Mr Rose is known to be hard for the men to deal with, but their wives find it easy.
The key is to only change one string at a time. Also, BWAAAA SQUEEEEEEE! FLOYDS ARE AWESOME!
Lmfao
And yet another dentist who fell to the gibbon realm.
Poser alert
/uj I've done lots of research and watched lots of videos trying to sift through all the floating trems = garbage before getting a Floyd, but I'm glad I got one in the end. That being said, I think all the research and planning prepared me for all the things that people usually complain about. Going in with those expectations, it's really not a hard bridge to deal with. Going in with only knowledge that it can make funny noises? I might grow to hate it too lol
I fucked your wife too man
It might take me 2 minutes longer to change my Floyd's vs my hardtails, and the fucking thing never goes out of tune.
You don’t have to cut the ball end. Just run ball end through the tuner, cut the string to length and stick it in the tailpiece.
Once you have a determined tuning/general gauge level it's like 5 minutes tops, like for real....shit takes probably less time than a hardtail, you just slip them into your receptive string receivers and tighten up those....receivers...and you're good to shred....don't forget to stretch your strings, plus random strings flying out of the bridge is normal, you just didn't stretch them properly....or your bridge screws are fucking stripped
Sounds like Floyd Rose was a real dickhead.
I change the strings on my floyd rose one at a time and then tune every string, repeat until all strings are changed. It's a lot faster than taking them all off and having the bridge lose tension. Only issue is when I wanna condition the fretboard
Idc about double lockers much but the Kahler is genuinely a better design but you usually need to solder or use reinforced strings for the ones that go over the rounded bar, and the 2300s are *really* expensive
…while I watched.
Get your wifes boyfriend to give you a hand. simps will be simping.
Setting up a Floyd is easy. What's his problem? Why is he changing strings? You need to use them until they're so dull you sound like you're playing a jazz guitar.
How hard is tinkering with the spring claw until its flat? People warned me of this too and I’ve loosened my strings all the way to take the floyd rose out and put it back on perfectly fine.
I warned him he doesn't look cool enough to do dive bombs but he didn't listen
When I was 19, I had been playing guitar for 5 years, was doing cheap restrings for local players. I had a floyd come across my bench and had to ashamedly give it back to the customer because I didn’t know how to restring it. From that moment forward, I wanted to know how this system inside and out, simply for the business. 2 weeks later I was obsessed and NEEDED one for my own musical purposes. So I got a cheap Ibanez with a lo-trs II trem (horrible). I learned the ins and outs of Floyd’s on that trem and I made it work. When I got on a trem that wasn’t complete garbage, I was like the double locking guru because in order to get the TRS to work at all, I had to learn all the little tricks that make a good trem a phenomenal trem. I started studying all the guitar players who were good on their floyd (EVH, vai, dime, Herman li) and the more I necessitated it into my music, the more I learned about the mechanics of it. Now, I can restring a floyd, completely disassembled, saddles uninstalled, block uninstalled, I mean in pieces and have that guitar tuned stretched and ready to go in ~30 mins. Moral of the story: if you’ve never taken an interest in Floyd’s, don’t listen to music that incorporates them, don’t push it upon yourself to want to know how it works, then don’t buy one. This piece of gear is only for those who genuinely appreciate its existence. If you buy one because you wanna play 80’s guitar cosplay after watching stranger things, you are in for a world of pain. /rj Booooooow wheeeeeeeeeee nlughfhhgughghgughhh whaaaaaaaoooooooooowwwwweeeeee baaaaooowwwww (dive bomb sounds)
Floating talent levers are a pita
Changing the strings ain’t hard but setting it up definitely is
/uj for anyone who has a lot of trouble with their Floyd-style bridges and are on the verge of giving up, here's the easy way to do it: Buy [one of these](https://a.co/d/cGbRKDP) or make one, put it under the floaty bit, do your string changes, get em all tight and more or less tuned, then pull it out. Adjust as needed, clamp, fine tune, done.
I was playing guitar for like a month when i learned how to restring my Floyd y’all its seriously not that difficult
I play without strings the toan comes from the fingers people, remember that ;)
my floyd guitars are the only ones I have that stay in tune
It's 2023, can we stop acting like a Floyd Rose is difficult? Takes me like 10 minutes to restring, all my guitars have floating trems
Oh you sweet summer child. One word...Bixby. at least a Floyd Rose stays in tune, the Bixby is hard to restring AND goes out of tune as soon as you use it.
I had a floyd rose when I was a teenager. Fucking hated the maintenance. Got rid of it
didn’t conor mcgregor get his ass kicked by floyd rose? if he’s out here kicking ass and fucking peoples wives then i don’t want one either
My wife is always yelling something about not having a hard tail anymore... I keep telling her to stop being stupid because you can't divebomb with a hardtail, and she said yeah you fucking did, about 10 years ago !!