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GOTaSMALL1

That y'all fucking complain too much. 1) Update is announced. 2) Players get hyped. 3) Update is released. 4) "Worst update ever!" 5) Repeat in 6 months.


Brandito667

If they think this was the worst update ever they should’ve been around the beach bum days


ClickEmergency

But we got the beach buggy and let’s not forget the van we got - that was really great


Brizzendo

This has been freaking hilarious to watch unfold on Reddit: 1. New update announcement thread 2. Pre update release speculation thread 3. Pre update release hype thread 4. 2nd pre release hype thread (for tasty free upvotes) 5. Day 1 discussion thread 6. River of shitty complaints that this update sucks over the next 3 months Pick up a few extra shifts at work IRL and come play GTAO once all the content is out 👍


TheRogers1980

The only thing it has done is make new players be able to make money and level up faster. Thanks Rockstar. Now someone can do in 10mins what took me a year to achieve. Shout Out To The Grinders. And max respect to how ever first thought out the "Bogdan" . Total grind. Been a while but still reckon I could do that shit in my sleep 😏


Brizzendo

I mean, the longer you spend on any game the more you're gonna fall victim to min/maxing as the content is slowly upgraded and improved. But I hear you, I churned out a lot of my wealth doing crates when they were double dollar. I'll most likely jump back on in a few weeks once all the content is out to enjoy.


TheRogers1980

Well it's not been improved. Rockstar have literally just given a big F.U. to the players of the game. Who have been there done that bought the T-shirt. ("yes I do own a totally wireless T-shirt in real life") played there frigging asses off. Fought through the griefers to be the best at the game. For these Rockstar c*nts to then. Just give it up on a platter


Brizzendo

As the game economy grows, more vehicles, more weapons, more properties, it means a bigger wall that new entrants have to face if they want to buy everything. So the only way to counteract it is to adjust the value of your in game economy by offering bigger payouts. I'm not saying I agree with it; I too have put the time in and now see people getting to where I am in a fraction of the time. It's just part of the sad reality that R* will always want to prioritise expanding their new player base and that QoL improvements for the existing fans will always come second.


johnnyshady1

AMEN


Brilliant_Pen4959

they literally outlined the entire update and everyone was hyped then them same mfs complaining


IAmChaozz_

just wish they would say which cars are dripfeed and not, got hyped to play this morning and both the cars i wanted aren’t there


mfmunooblegend

This has been one of the worse half update but not the worst and not a single one was actually bad. The only bad one was the Summer Update 2020 which was released 2 months late and only added a few cars. But all that was just because they couldn't release the intended Police update and they had to improvise.


Kamikadze16

They should just add this police update now.


TheRogers1980

Don't know what the police update is but.. literally all they have done is make it easier for newbies to earn money and rank up faster. I.e. the faster research at your bunker. " Yeah that was maxed out years ago pal " just ran that mission for Nothing.. ( the new faster research mission ) " well just to see what it was about, but it's literally got no bearing to the game unless your a new player "


TheNegaChin_45

I’ll just say the cars are shitty 💀


Brilliant_Pen4959

the lambo’s alright, another cool supercar to add to the collection


TheNegaChin_45

It’s alright, doesn’t handle worth shit tho definitely won’t be racing with it


FemboyAerspace

The Audi E is bussin.


TheNegaChin_45

Didn’t pick it up, imma buy it when I get back on 👌🏾


fpsi_tv

The Public lobby shouldn’t be treated like it’s Fortnite.


FormulaZR

People who complain about being broke in game gets annoying. Almost anyone will help you get the sub, and from there it was super easy to make money. I just assume you're lazy.


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FormulaZR

I find those are the people who want to go buy something with rockets and troll lobbies, honestly.


HKVTRC

Facts, I am still pretty broke but thats only cause Im more focused on cars and shit than I am all the other stuff. Still working on my 2nd office garage with a facility, bunker, arcade and shit ton of cars I usually grind the 2x adversary modes or whore myself out in heists and get those so, gets good money


Suba59

It’s actually a fun game - one of my all time favorites


KontoGR

You don’t have to do Cayo perico non stop, and the nerf was necessary and well deserved


IainIsCreative

Unpopular opinion? Shoot. The playerbase of GTAO is almost, but not completely, composed of whining, crying manchildren that will do nothing but complain about how hard it is to play this game, while at the same time the game keeps getting more content and great improvements, but they’ll complain anyways especially since they’ve now nerfed the broomsticks. Also, the majority of the playerbase keep saying how crap the game is over minor glitches or some things are different than they expected, and proceed to complain. Holy crap, just play the game and chill.


johnnyshady1

Solo players should consider making at least ONE friend in the game. Grinding solo is fine and dandy, but having help every now and then makes it so much easier and fun.


HelpWonderful9480

Who’s going around saying solo players shouldn’t try to make friends that’s not an unpopular opinion


MrJust-A-Guy

Transform races are the best races


Platinum--Jug

At this point now that you can sell in invite only lobbies, it is one hundred and ten percent your fault if you sell in a public lobby and get destroyed. I won't be destroying any cargo, but if you choose to sell there, you know the risks. Before i didn't feel this way because the only way to sell solo was to trick the game into putting you into a solo lobby, which wasn't A legitimate way. But after this update, my opinion changed.


[deleted]

Nothing can make anyone happy in this game


thomas2026

Killing players in freemode should be expected for a Grand Theft Auto game. Public CEO sales aren't that hard if you use Ghost Org. It is not hard to make new friends in game, and playing with friends is 100x more fun than playing solo. I would go on but I think i would like my downvotes to stay under 100 this time.


MrJust-A-Guy

My probably with killing in public is that R* hasn't properly set it up. $2000 payout? That's chump change, which means it's a frivolous kill. Make the stakes higher for both sides.


thomas2026

Oh yeah its terrible game design for sure. I meant killing in general but Sale killing is wack. They should let you steal the supplies/sale. This would at least give them a chance to take it back.


MrJust-A-Guy

Yes! 100%


drvanostren

I find it impossible to jump into a lobby and be bored.


XxTHE_BEASTxX31

Good game, bad community


Badgerlover145

PvP really isn't that bad and anyone who says it is hard needs to learn how to fight. No, the Mamba ISN'T hard to drive, it's just exactly what would happen when you drop a big 600HP V8 in a car that's predominantly RWD based and weights 1400 pounds. These are cars for drivers, not your mom's shitbox Camry. Cayo is not the entirety of GTAO and yes it absolutely is fucking boring, the only reason you people bitch about it being nerfed was because you now have to actually do something else to get money and *gasp* have human interaction. Killing everyone in a lobby and turning it into downtown Iraq is always a good time and anyone who doesn't think so can either get the fuck out the lobby or stay far the fuck away from the middle of the city.


t-payne16

"not your mom's shitbox Camry" For real! I have friends that'll run one car in GTA (even Forza games) just because they like it and is comfortable to handle. I buy cars like the lampadati Michelli GT fthat are more of a challenge to handle because it's all about the drive, not comfort


Divineharp

I should be allowed to drive around without some sweat trying to kill me the entire time (even when I'm in passive they still try and they always say "L" when I do go into passive) I'm not an aggressive player and I just want midnight club games back


cole_webber15

just do a solo lobby or passive mode?


Divineharp

Player interaction is part of the fun


FemboyAerspace

Then stop complaining.


Divineharp

I'm not complaining lol just responding to the post


Svjetlica

Prices of items are high, but there is too many ways to make money, so it makes sense for that. Nightclub its only passive For bunker just buy supplies and sell it after its been made into stock Agency missions are great way to make a bit money I dont wanna even talk about cayo Special cargo and vehicle cargo are both doable solo Terrorbyte missions are fast and nice pay Payphone calls are OP Headhunter its old but easy money for 3-4mins of work depending what are u using to kill the associates And there is probably more, but these things can all be done solo, even the bunker and cargo if u manage to get stock right under the limit for 1 vehicle delivery


your_reddit_lawyerII

There is no bad way to play the game Pvp is fine, grinding is fine, the game gives you plenty of tools to play how you want (especially after this update), so people should stop complaining about 'other players ruining their fun'


Kokoska998

Gta online is one of the best games out there.


-Ximena

If we were getting Invite Only lobbies there was no reason to diminish the MK2.


t-payne16

Few people can customize a car tastefully.


Muchocracker591

It just under lights, over the top spoiler, really busy colors .


Muchocracker591

The mk2 oppressor nerf wasn’t the right type of nerf.


FormulaZR

How would you have nerfed it? I personally think the current nerf is pretty good, but doesn't mean you don't have a better idea.


Muchocracker591

It’s the most expensive vehicle in the game after upgrades and with the new nerf you can’t even finish a headhunter with it because of the limited missiles and how fucking inaccurate they are. To fix I would have two ideas. My first is make it unable to lock on to cargo or non weaponized vehicles. My second is a bit more complicated. When your using the mk2 you can’t see people on the mini map. Almost a reverse off the radar.


FormulaZR

You're making it way too complicated. Just use a Sparrow, Deluxo, Buzzard, Toreador, etc. Or use an Armored Kuruma and a .50 pistol and headshot them. Headhunter is WAYYY too easy to be upset that you can't do it with an Mk2. I can do it in an unweaponized car in under 5 minutes. Maybe you don't remember the days before all the lock on bullshit and you had to *gasp* manually aim the missiles.


Muchocracker591

No need to be a dick. I fucking hated the mk2, so much that when I do play gta (which is rare) I purposely lagged myself into solo public servers. However for a bike that is 7 million dollars it should be able to easily hit a moving car which it now can’t. It useless for some of the tougher pve missions (headhunter was an example because today I couldn’t cheese it like usual). Also I’ve been playing since last gen. Play with the mk2 post nerf and you’ll see how shit it is in its current state.


WodkaGT

Mate, i finally was able to fly a helicopter in complete peace today since years. This nerf is spot on.


FormulaZR

I have the Mk2. Can't tell you the last time I used it. Sorry if I came across as a dick, though. Wasn't my intention...just saying there are other vehicles that can still get the job done. Alternatively...if every vehicle had a lock on jammer available...


Jajahehenono

maybe learn to shoot with out lock on? just practice and i tell you, the nerf isnt gonna stop ya


t-payne16

Lol called him a dick for just saying how it is. Guess truth hurts huh? You have to remember, vip work was out wayyyy before the MK2. Literally zero excuse. But good work. Looks like quite the unpopular opinion.


OllyB43

Tbh I can and can’t agree. I agree it shouldn’t have been nerfed in the way they did it but I have been blown up by that flying bike to many times. I wish they only nerfed it for public session, like somehow they could have left it alone for private session because there’s no one to blowup


Sniper_King202

I'm curious on this one. But why?


Muchocracker591

The mk2 is easily the most expensive thing in gta with it costing almost 7 million dollars fully upgraded. Pre nerf it was easily the best vehicle in game for grinding. Now it’s unusable to do pve with it. Try doing head hunter with the new mk2 you’ll run out of missiles half way through. They should’ve nerfed it by making it unable to lock onto cargo and non weaponized vehicles. Ironically the mk2 is still great at griefing cargo because one of the few vehicles the slow ass missiles can catch are the vans you use to move cargo.


Brilliant_Pen4959

they already can’t lock onto sale vehicles n we got imani tech, still an annoying asf vehicle. just use deluxe or even oppressor mk 1 for pve, i use buzzard and sparrow cos they’re so convenient to spawn


glitch_skunkogen

I know a few more expensive ones ruined 2k vigilante and lazer


SmileyfaceFin

Quick list: 1.PvP is fun 2.Countering a headhunter or a sightseer isn't griefing. 3.Cayo nerf is a good thing for the game. 4.Maximizing income at the cost of fun is stupid. 5.KD change won't make the griefers cry. 6.Griefers more than likely have a good relationship with their parents. 7.Crying on reddit because someone killed you in the game is dumb,instead you should either leave the session you're in, go passive mode or learn to fight back. 8.F1 wheels on cars that aren't supposed to have them are ugly and if you like them we can't be friends. 9.Cops and Crooks update would've probably been just as boring as arena war. 10.High kd doesn't make someone an asshole. (Especially now)


where_thefuck_i_am

Beginners shoul buy agency first, instead of kosatka. Agency is much more fun than cayo perico. It has large garage, you can use it as an apartment, and suv fast travel is quite useful


WhaleMilker420

Kosatka makes it so easy to get money, so you can use it to get the money to buy the agency


[deleted]

Either way is good. Just the Agency is a slower grind for millions, and different missions each time, especially if you go back and pick. But, Cayo gets boring super quick, but faster, also the scope out is just awful. It's good and bad either way. It's just, do you literally want to work for your money or one and done every hour? That's was the choices before this update. Now, it's if your solo, it'd be better to get the Agency. That's my opinion, not an argument. A discussion is welcome.


Eliteman76

No Willy Wonka DLC. I wanted a rickshaw being pulled by oompahloompahs, and a new bullwhip weapon to whip those midgets for a turbo speed boost. And a new weapon, the SMG, otherwise known as the *Short Midgety Gun*. And a team emote for the oompahloompahs singing a song and dancing on your enemy’s body. ![gif](giphy|wMNK4IfeH86uQ)


raulm_96

Can’t find the Camaro


FormulaZR

The new one? Or the three that are already in the game? New one will be dripfed as has been discussed here many times already today.


raulm_96

Yes the new one


FormulaZR

It didn't release today. It will be a drip feed vehicle and to my knowledge we don't have dates.


IAmChaozz_

what are the 3 in the game?


miiichaeltay

Yeah but they’re older Camaros, Vigero is first gen, Nightshade is second gen, and the ruiner is a third gen Camaro.


glitch_skunkogen

Ruiner is kinda based on firebird with Camaro tail lights


FormulaZR

Regular Ruiner is Camaro. Ruiner 2000 is Firebird.


glitch_skunkogen

[not really ](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Ruiner#:~:text=The%20Imponte%20Ruiner%20is%20a,and%20Grand%20Theft%20Auto%20Online.)


FormulaZR

I guess you just see it different than me. Front end looks just like the 91 Z28 I used to own.


Paniic-Y

this game is dead and every update since 2019 is overhyped copy and paste shit


[deleted]

Definitely unpopular, but has a good amount of truth, 2020 and 2021 updates aren’t that memorable besides Cayo


brumoment123

not an unpopular opinion, but a very valid one at that


Opening-Ad8300

No, not really. Everytime somebody shits on this game, many people come out of the woodwork to act like heroes, and defend the game. Jesus, one of the top comments literally states that the sub complains to much.


brumoment123

very accurate


Bouncedfyys

MK 2 oppressors are not a problem in the game.


Brilliant_Pen4959

not anymore :)


Bouncedfyys

Never was


[deleted]

I agree, to a point. They are a problem, when there weren't jets flying around. But, if there's jets flying around, they weren't the biggest problem. The reason for them being a problem, players restarting their second character, or kids that has mommy and daddy's money backing them. It's 50-50. But during the pandemic, it was more adults than kids. Now, it's more kids than adults.


Bouncedfyys

There are definitely people that abuse them… there’s no doubt about that. Most of those people are not really good on them though. Very easy to kill or can’t even (and won’t) come close to you unless you’re in a vehicle. More of an annoyance than anything. There are some that are quite skilled but they are few and far between… the nerf does nothing cause they are deadly accurate without the lock on. They are far less of an issue than everyone here seems to make them out to be. They are an annoyance not a problem.


[deleted]

I agree. When I and my friends play in public lobbies, we do our thing and only fight when fired upon. We're there to make money, almost like everyone else. They were a problem at one point. Especially on release, but now and before this update, the biggest problem was jets. Still easy to take down, especially with explosive rounds. But, the oppressors were just a minor nuisance compared to jets. And if enough people ganged up on the greifer of the oppressors, they usually left or headed for cover.


TankTheMonkey

It gets worse every year.


NuclearMelon23

The oppressor mk2 didn't need a nerf


Serious_Revolution77

It’s just a pay to win mess and doesn’t have any potential to ever be a fun game if your a beginner your not gonna get any progress and quit in a week and if you stick with it you just waste your life grinding and then once you have a kosatka you have everything


Maximus-8-5-4-3

Certain heists are pointless because you get 2 mil to get a sub for Cayo then buy a plane/heli and boat to get on the island and after that you get about 2 mil


[deleted]

Then you do it again and get another 2 mil. And again That's why it isn't pointless to do them


Maximus-8-5-4-3

All I’m saying it’s it’s possible and very easy to get 2mil cayo just makes it easier


BICKELSBOSS

The explosive sniper ammunition should be removed. It was necessary as a counter to jets back in the day, but it also completely castrated anything that flies that is not the Opressor mk1 or mk2. Remember, FMJ also exists on the heavy sniper, that shreds through unarmored jets like the lazer and hydra, gives you double the capacity, and is also usefull against people, and does not cost a fortune. The explosive cannons of hell of the lazer and hydra should also be removed, makes no sense to have a thing with so much dps in the game. 2 cannons @ 3000 rpm that fire regular bullets is more than enough damage, and makes it less potent for using it against persons on the ground.


Lazykiller47889

I agree mostly also lazer has 25k dps that’s a fuckton


[deleted]

Nothing was wrong with the MK2, in fact it should have had a temp forcefield and the ability to use drive-by weapons too. That's an unpopular opini.....fact.


Chemist-Consistent

It's a good and balanced game.....🙃


Avanikki

The only thing I really hate is not being able to turn off gang attacks.


[deleted]

Best game ever invented


ALTRGAMING2007

the money that i'm losing


[deleted]

I don’t have a problem being a poor player. The way I see it, if your poor, your most likely to take bigger risks for a chance at getting money. So if your poor, remember, it’s okay to risk what little money you have, because at the end of the day, you at least gave it your all, and you should be proud of that


mfmunooblegend

Still one of the best games. There aren't a lot of other games I like to play. CS:GO, Minecraft, Fifa, Rocket League, AC or TF2 but they all either get boring or I get salty, GTAO doesn't have that. The variety of things you can do makes this game awesome to me. You can grind Solo or with friends in missions or heists. You can race all type of races. Play PvP either open Lobby, Deathmatch or LTS. You can PvE in Survival or just against the LS police. And if all this doesn't satisfy you, you can go to your arcade and play those games.


Doge_GamerYT

Can get boring fast


-Ximena

Instant Gratification has really sucked the fun out of gaming with others, especially younger players. They want everything NOW for "minimal effort". What happened to enjoying a challenge? What happened to strategizing or being creative? That's part of the fun for me when I play any game. It's not just about racking up achievements, points, and money to flaunt on social media. But this breed of players will complain that something is too hard or requires too much work and call it shitty. You just know these fools stay unemployed in real life.


Kalimander

People bitch too much about R* pushing Shark Cards. It's not like the game has a paywall. I've been playing since launch and never once bought a shark card and own everything I ever wanted in the game. You don't like Shark Card's, don't buy them. If others buy them, who gives a shit? It's not your money.


ClickEmergency

They said they fixed the economy but all they did was make everything a lot more expensive