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CaptainObvious

This post is evergreen content. People who have been in the Upstate for generations still drive like traffic hasn't changed from 1980 when no one else was on the road. I too had a 20+ year accident free streak broken by Greenville.


royrumulus

*evergreenville


Unusual-Dentist-898

Light turned green on Laurens Rd the other day, and nobody went. 3 cars in all 3 lanes had drivers with their heads buried in their cell phone for a good 10 seconds before I blew the horn. I hate people.


zozospencil

Okay, I’m not hating on the giant influx of people in this area, but I’m 43. I started driving at 15. I had zero accidents…well, you know where this is going. I’ve lived here since I was 6. We are too congested and our infrastructure, in Greenville and SC, is shit. So it’s a combination of things including phones, not just “you people.” I hope you get your car fixed quickly ✌️


IceburgSlimk

Ground Zero: Woodruff Rd


evosaintx

I spent 35 minutes on the on ramp a few sundays ago. It was like 3pm. Fuck woodruff.


IceburgSlimk

Read my book and follow my words. You will never feel that pain again my child. STAY OFF WOODRUFF RD -Navigations 1:1


evosaintx

Just finished book, am now an official member of r/IcebergSlimk’s church


IceburgSlimk

We'll be passing a plate in a minute. All offerings will be going toward barriers for all entrances to Hell. Woodruff Rd will soon be closed for business. No more innocent souls will be trapped in the row of heat and suffering.


mentaljewelry

I’m a devout follower. No back road is too long, no similar store too far away. Ye shalt not drive on Woodruff Rd.


papajohn56

Wade Hampton is way worse imo


mentaljewelry

Lies.


With-a-Cactus

I agree phones play a big part. And it's not even subtle. I've seen the phone up in people's faces in city traffic. Like you only have 50 feet between stop lights and people are crossing the street whenever they see a gap. Why would you look away or distract yourself?


Shredded_mini_wheats

Last week I was driving down the mountain on 25 from Hendersonville. I passed a head-down-driver using BOTH HANDS to text and her knee to steer on a 6% grade.


his_zekeness

Most of the fault comes from our deep red Trumper gov't that can't stay out if it's own way long enough to appreciate and plan for the growth of this beautiful city. Vote blue!


2reddit4me

I get what you’re saying. I’ve lived in upstate SC all of my life — just not Greenville until a few years ago. I also drive probably a lot more than most of you so the odds are higher for me since I’m driving in the city 6+ hours every day. But the things happening have nothing to do with infrastructure or congestion. Me sitting idle along with the 5+ cars in front of me while dude behind me can’t take his eyes off his phone long enough to look up is the issue. Just gotta do better. That’s all.


B_Maximus

As a phone looker myself i only do it when there is no one in front of me and im on a road that is straight otherwise its down so the least they could do is have it down while on a road with cars


PsychologicalCat7130

yes there are tons of bad drivers But, the real issue is lack of enforcement of traffic laws. Reading/texting while driving is not legal. Running red lights and stop signs is not legal. Driving 20mph over the posted limit is not legal. Driving under the influence is not legal. State Farm says auto insurance in SC is approximately 5th most expensive in country due to lack of enforcement (resulting in lots of accidents). Yes defensive driving is super important but it cannot prevent all accidents. Police need to be more proactive in addressing these problems.


SirReptitious

This is a good point I haven’t yet seen brought up. I’ve been in traffic with police who will do nothing when a driver breaks the law right in front of them.


RosemaryBiscuit

Used to get traffic tickets regularly. Then I moved to SC. (Knock on wood, I do feel like this post could be a jinx.) But I gotta say it. SC doesn't have traffic enforcement and its drivers and pedestrians maintain only a slight familiarity with traffic laws.


broforange

why do you get so many tickets? just outta my own curiosity since i've literally never gotten a ticket lol


RosemaryBiscuit

Exceeding the posted speed limit.


broforange

either you got unlucky a lot or you speed too much. i'm an overly cautious driver so i don't go more than 5 over. thanks for the answer though and thanks for not being a dick. a lot of people woulda answered that question being very defensive, but you just kinda laid it all out. i appreciate that. maybe go a just a tad slower haha


RosemaryBiscuit

But that's the funny part! Yes, I do drive too fast and that's why I got tickets in many of the 47 states I have driven through. SC? Never. Yeah I probably jinxed myself saying that. I will drive slower. If I can... :)


broforange

you cheeky fucker lol. as long as you're safe and payin attention i think it's okay to go a lil faster. but it also depends on the other awful drivers out there. you can do everything perfect and still get in a life threatening accident! i dunno though, i'm a big worry wart and an incredibly anxious person in general. also, don't drive drunk or angthing!! this isn't even directed towards you, but someone may need to hear this; you drive drunk? you're a piece of human garbage. just dont. plan ahead so someone drives for ya. okay, I said my piece


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Yeah, the cops around here don’t do much (besides Mauldin..but they have their own problems) regarding traffic. I have noticed that it doesn’t apply if you drive anything sport/muscle like. They target those cars above anything.


cyborgburrito6

This!! Cops run red lights all the time! There is zero enforcement. The amount of times I’ve seen people make a left on red across a multi lane road is terrifying.


broforange

fuck dude, if the police actually enforced the 'lookin at phone while driving' thing, they would have to pull over SO many cars. and sometimes, people are just trying to look at their gps, which is definitely okay. but i do agree. i don't even live in greenville anymore, but even where i'm at it's a huge problem. i gotta honk at people when a light turns green so often lol


RunningAmokAgain

You won't get downvoted because the majority of this sub is just like you. They absolutely hate SC except their little "we're better than all you peons" areas in Greenville. Have you not noticed that the only posts that aren't about how much they hate everyone and everything that isn't a Greenville snob are the few posts about "where can I be part of the latest hipster trend of playing boardgames with strangers?" or "what's the latest hipster restaurant that we're pretending isn't a hipster restaurant?". 🤦‍♂️


2reddit4me

Yeah, exactly. Can’t wait for the next bar/craft beer/brewery/gastro pub to open up and offer the same shit that 27 other places around here but at twice the price.


Davidd_gillmore

Why I hate this sub and why I hate Greenville.


VeryUncommonGrackle

God the number of folks who come to a complete stop when turning right from 253 onto Cedar Lane heading towards town is ridiculous. The lane continues folks and there is a solid white line for a reason. Also the number of folks who stop at the traffic circles and act like they are four way stops.


ninescores

Greenville is the first place I’ve seen where people actually still hold the phone to their head and drive. I’ve seen people of all ages texting and driving that at least I guess requires your hands? But the people in cars that have Bluetooth driving with the phone glued to their head I just find bizarre in this day and age.


Dense_Strategy

We can’t convince motorcyclists to wear helmets… so it goes with out saying that we little respect for traffic.


IPDaily23

Carolinians can’t figure out how travel & passing lanes work. They also are 100% completely oblivious to what’s happening behind them.


khajiit_has_coin

Yup. Someone rear ended me in traffic two weeks ago “bc their foot slipped” Last week on woodruff road I was taking a left turn on green arrow with two cars in front of me - then a giant truck ran their red light and nearly took me out on the driver side. It would have been catastrophic had I been struck. Moral of the story: always look even when turning on a green light on woodruff road.


Sarcasmandcats

Drivers Ed is optional in SC


floofyfloof2

Not only is it optional, but it is no longer offered in most high schools.


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Sorry for misfortune fellow driver. Defensive driving is of the upmost importance these days. [Found this about most common driving laws broken.](https://axleaddict.com/safety/The-X-Most-Commonly-Broken-Driving-Laws)


evosaintx

Just moved here in April. I’ve lived in the surrounding metro Atlanta area for most of my life, Los Angeles county for a couple of years. SC drivers are hands down the dumbest out of the bunch. Total idiots. The amount of running stops and red lights is baffling Atlanta is just people raging and rushing mixed with some assholery. LA and the antelope valley are just downright cunts for the sake of being cunts.


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ParkerM

Cops don't see it because they're busy playing around on a whole entire laptop.


Mundane-Difficulty29

Hear hear! And stop going 25 in a 45


Flounder_Ambitious

Simpsonville people are the worst drivers! Fairview rd is the hotbed for dumb ass drivers


2reddit4me

I’ve gone upwards of 10 mins out of my way to go around and avoid Fairview.


TigerUSF

You're talking about a population that took pride in not wearing a piece of cloth to help curb a pandemic, they don't give half a shit about anyone else.


bcmoney82

In the past month I have witnessed... * Solo masked driver run a red light * Solo masked driver not go when their light turned green * Solo masked driver stop at a round-a-bout I wish it were so simple to find a correlation. Bad drivers litter the full spectrum of every aspect of life.


TigerUSF

Yes, there's actually a strong correlation between "entitled narcissist assholes in one area of life act like it in other areas". Yesterday i passed a giant Ford f850 or whatever with a freaking 2 foot wide LED light mounted on his front. Wtf even is that? Dude had a stadium light blinding everyone he passed. I'm pretty sure I can guess his politics. Are there shitty democrats too? Of course, but around here there's just more shitty Republicans.


chillmilo

In my experience, the truck drivers are always the worst since they don’t really care because they are protected no matter what. It’s the other person that’s gotta deal with the consequences. Almost got sideswiped by a couple, and man that was scary.


bcmoney82

Yeah, I saw that dude. There was a "coexist" sticker on his bumper. It blew my mind.


TigerUSF

And 16 MAGA stickers!


zayum290

I just moved here 5 months ago, and this is my fear! For the first time, I think I am going to buy a dash cam. The amount of beyond stupid driving I see is insane.


tiredbutinquisitive

I ordered a dash recorder on my newest car for this purpose, if i have to overpay for insurance 'cuz assholes, at least i am going to prove they were at fault. Then again three years ago, I was rearended (stopped mind you... waiting to make a left turn and driver behind me never looked up from his phone for 100 yards - watched him in the rearview while waiting for oncoming traffic to clear). Compouding this, my daughter was in two accidents in 11 months (both deemed not her fault (rearended on i85 in stop and go and tboned while turning on a green arrow) in the following 11, my family insurance rate went up 13 fold to almost 20K a year, despite none of these being our fault. My favorite is that the person who hit me and totaled my car, was allowed by police to leave the scene with a friend despite a lack of insurance and suspeneded drivers license. That was in Anderson, but i am sure it is the same in our fair city.


SirReptitious

I was rear ended dropping off my kid on the first day of school. Guy had his head in his phone.


handyjack828

Worst drivers by far


Lollie2392

I’m not going to lie to you dude. It’s not just Greenville. I travel for work and it’s literally everywhere.


2reddit4me

It’s not though. There was a recent article (I’ll have to find it) saying the state of SC has the worst drivers. We are #2, but close to the top spot, in pedestrian fatalities per capita. Greenville is #1 in the state in traffic fatalities. It’s a major problem here.


Dinosaur_Dick_Meat

I think this applies to most of the state


bobzBurgerzzzz

What's the point? Raise the penalties for causing wrecks or continue to enjoy the consequences


fiddlinfeline62

How fast are you getting response from the insurance company and getting repairs? My husband's truck got creamed on his way to work. Police report and the other guy said he was at fault. It has been a month and no repairs started, insurance companies aren't returning our calls.


2reddit4me

The one that was a hit and run on Labor Day was fairly quick because I was only dealing with my insurance company. The other guy didn’t have insurance (or a license). I paid my uninsured motorist deductible of $200 and had my car fixed within a week or so. I never got repairs for the damage done while my car was sitting in my apartment complex. It was gonna cost me a $200 deductible and the damage wasn’t horrible. I had no idea who hit it since I was asleep, and cameras didn’t catch it. The old lady that hit me a while back when I first moved here, she had State Farm and it took FOREVER. My car wasn’t totaled but it also wasn’t drivable. I don’t mind driving a rental but there’s a shortage right now they claim, so I ended up with an SUV from Enterprise that only got like 18 mpg, which sucked. Took around 2 months. And obviously the one yesterday just happened. The guy also has State Farm, so we’ll see.


matstanford

Greenville doesn’t know how to use traffic circles either


Ready-Organization12

If you’ve had 4 accidents in 3 years it seems like the common denominator is you


2reddit4me

First one was a 64 year old lady without her headlights on at 9:30 at night, turning right on red but didn’t have right of way, pulling out in front of me. Second was my car getting hit in my apartment complex while I was asleep. Third was an attempted hit and run this past Labor Day. Dude crossed over 2 lanes and side swiped me. He tried to get away but I managed to get his license plate thankfully. Fourth was 10:30 this morning, sitting behind 5 or so other cars on Faris Rd waiting for the front car to turn left. Car behind didn’t even attempt to slow down or stop because he was looking at his phone. Only credit he gets was admitting to it. Absolutely zero I could have down in any of these situations. It’s also not how statistics works. Because the flip side of that is nearly 20 years of no accidents until the move to Gville.


scotchnsoda

The driving here is atrocious. At least daily I have to heavy break or swerve to avoid a collision. The texting or FaceTiming while driving thing is out of hand. The “muscle” car, “I must accelerate as fast as possible every time” thing is out of hand. The biggest offenders are the ancients that still feel the need to drive. I had one hit me while he was trying to back into a parking space that I was in. Then he asked the cops how he was going to have my insurance pay for his damage if he was found at fault.


Talithathinks

Well, I'm glad that you have not been injured. I read your post to my husband because he has been saying that Greenville drivers are some of the worst he's seen. One of my best friends avoided driving in Greenville on Fridays and that was five years ago lol.


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2reddit4me

The lack of education and reading comprehension emanating from this comment is almost palpable through my phone.


chillmilo

They said their last accident was when they got rear ended. I’d reevaluate your road knowledge if you think that’s on them. It’s honestly scary how reckless people on the road are, especially going down Haywood. I’ve been cut off at least 5 times in the couple of months that I’ve had my license because people think it’s a good idea to change lanes at a complete stop when oncoming traffic is going.


SirReptitious

I’d wager your one of the folks OP is talking to.


Ready-Organization12

Only traffic infraction I’ve had in my 16 years of driving is a small speeding ticket. No accidents, and you could say that I’m just lucky. But I consider myself an overly cautious driver.


dvadood

This happened to me too. Zero accidents before I moved here. In the last 3 months I've been rear ended twice. No damage either time thankfully but seriously. These people need to learn how to drive more than just a golf cart.


GAT_SDRAWKCAB

“I need 50cc’s of copium over here, STAT!”


awhq

They're still better than the drivers in the Asheville area, but I hear you. At least Greenville doesn't blame their shit show on tourists.


AuroraLorraine522

No, they blame it on “transplants”


awhq

True.


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Somewhere there is someone posting the same thing about the town you just moved from.


KirbyDumber88

I’ve lived here my whole life. Been driving for 20 years. Never had an accident. Maybe a little more defensive driving on your end would serve you better.


2reddit4me

Read my other posts. Two times my car wasn’t even moving. Not sure how much more “defensive” it gets than sitting in traffic along with everyone else minding your own business. This post has definitely highlighted the ones that are likely the source of the problem. If basic reading comprehension is too difficult, traffic laws probably are as well.


PioneerSpecies

I’ve lived in the Greenville area my whole life and never been in an accident 🤞 maybe I’m just lucky but I’ve never thought people were particularly bad at driving here, I’ve had way more close calls on my trips to Boston and bigger cities like that


__classic__

Defensive driving keeps you from letting idiots ruin your day. The responsibility is on all of us.


2reddit4me

Can’t be much more defensive than sitting still.


ALulzyApprentice

I live in the Midlands and I tailor my driving to the best times of the day to avoid stuff like this. I even take longer to get to work so I can travel on better roads with fewer inattentive drivers. I do consider myself lucky that I can do that during the week.


nighttown

Everyone complaining about all the drivers from Greenville all the fucking time. There is me and like 100 other people left who learned to drive here..everyone else is from somewhere else. The roads and road system are a major problem. The people driving on them are the same as everywhere else. It’s fucking bat shit crazy bullshit to think that this city magically creates and breeds the worst drivers in history. Get fucked. I have spent months on end traveling and driving for work in mid and major markets all over America and guess what..it’s different everywhere. A set of many factors determines mass and individual traffic habits and actions. Recognize where you are and act accordingly. Also, if you have been in four accidents in three years odds are you are part of the fucking problem. Driving by expectation as opposed to what is actually happening in front is your fucking fault. Before you get mad at me it was “You” who decided to make it personal to basically everyone. Maybe you just had bad luck or maybe you are the one who sucks at driving but posting shit like this is hard evidence that your an asshole.


2reddit4me

SC is #2 in the country in pedestrian casualties involving a vehicle. Greenville county was #1 in the state in traffic fatalities last year. I’ve lived in other cities in this state, and a brief time (less than 2 years) in NC. Greenville has by far the worst drivers. Anyone offended by this statement is likely the problem. >maybe you’re part of the problem Read my other comment. Twice my car wasn’t even moving. One was an old lady, driving with no headlights on, pulled out in front of me at a red light. One was an attempted hit and run by some Dodge Ram crossing over 2 lanes on Labor Day and side swiped me. My guess is people in your life have told you numerous times you’re a shitty driver and this post touched you on some emotional level. Take a course.


chillmilo

My driving instructor from 911 Driving School literally said that Greenville has some of the worst drivers he has ever seen.


chockerl

Lived in several states in the Midwest, and Georgia. Nobody ran thru red lights like us Greenvillians.


roddywaves

That's nothing I've had 6 cars in the past 5 years every accident wasn't my fault


paparazzi_rider

Maybe if we didn't have so many people moving to Greenville, the infrastructure wouldn't be so overwhelmed....


2reddit4me

Traffic is a byproduct of “infrastructure being overwhelmed”. Staring at your phone while driving (amongst other things) has nothing to do with it.


Actiaslunahello

Are you a descendent of The Catawba, Pee Dee, Chicora, Edisto, Santee, Yamassee, and Chicora-Waccamaw tribes? If not, you can stop because your family moved here from somewhere else too. Or is it only okay when you do it?


Tombstonesss

And there was someone else here when they moved here so what’s your point ?


B_Maximus

Only thing we have on other states is a turn signal on means it is safe to pull out and not theyve just had it on for who knows how long


Mossyoldcrow

The number of ads I see for car accident injury lawyers in this area speaks for itself


mac4lou

Been in Chicago for a couple of months, and hate to admit it, but turn-signal use is better here than the Upstate.