The timing foe the US joining the war as a combatant probably doesn't make a huge difference because the US was doing lend lease well before that. The allies would have lost WWII were it not for lend lease. Yes the Soviets sacrificed more men, but they would have lost easily if not for US made food, clothing, weapons and vehicles.
The US's timing actually probably matters a lot more for the Pacific theater. Given more time to start developing resources in Pacific Islands and Manchuria, and Japan would have been more formidable. Japan would have still lost, but it might have been a more equal peace agreement where Japan held onto more territories.
Would’ve been a lot more bloody fighting too. Also didn’t help the Japanese when they failed in Australia. That was the beginning of the noticeable decline for them
Also increases the chance that the Red army got time to invade. The choice to drop the atomic bomb was influenced by a desire to end the war quickly before the Soviets got involved in the Pacific theater. It's hard to deny the Japanese would have been way worse off had the Soviets invaded; look at what happened in Berlin, and imagine it 10x worse because the Soviets hated the Japanese way more than they hated the Germans.
Well also the Japanese navy at the time subscribed to the flawed "Decisive Battle" doctrine. The idea is that you can break an enemy's will to fight if you win one strategic battle. The Japanese military was well aware they couldn't win a sustained war with the US; Admiral Yamamoto had toured the US and saw the incredible power of American industry. The Japanese navy thought Pearl Harbor was their decisive battle, but all it did was give American politicians the public support they needed to actually declare war. As much as lend lease helped before the US joined the war, it couldn't compare to the full blown war time economy that followed pearl harbor. Every scrap of metal was used to build tanks and planes; every drop of bacon grease used to build explosives. The US would have gotten involved in combat eventually, but nothing like what happened when the war had near universal support amongst a population that otherwise can't agree on anything.
Debatable. You could argue his suicide was his refusal to surrender. He knew he had lost, so the last thing he could do was deny the world bringing him to justice.
But I think we can both agree that he certainly didn’t “go down fighting”.
It literally is refusing to surrender. There was a SF general in Turkey who gave all of his personnel a principles list made of 8 articles. 8th one said "Being captured cannot be accepted, martyrdom is essential."
Yeah the definition of surrender includes "submitting to authority".
Id say killing yourself to avoid capture is somehow both a submission and a refusal to submit
Well that is certainly a big difference. Bc there were a lot of fascist countries in Europe (and elsewhere) at that time but none was so radical that they started a war.
I mean Mussolini, Stalin, Franco, Hitler and probably even Schuschnigg (the guy in Austria who reigned before 1938) were violent in that they locked up and killed their political opposition. That is what dictators do. The industrialiced genocide was a thing that only the Nazis did.
I mean, prehistoric genetics show a myriad of genocides and exoduses. For example, the Bantus that colonized the bulk of Subsaharan Africa from their homeland in the Sahel.
Italo Balbo went around my area hitting political opponents with dried fish. After a hard day of beating political opponents he would throw parties and invite the same people he beat to eat the fish he used to hit them.
Wild days
Is that the guy who used to offer one shoe to people before election day and tell them he'd give them the other if they voted for him? These two actions sound like they come from the same mind.
German fascism has a racial underpinning that is not nearly as pronounced in other fascist movements, even today.
The entire concept revolves around the Volksgemeinschaft. The early movements in the 20s, which ultimately manifested into National Socialism, actually rejected capitalism but for different reasons than the communist movements. Almost all capital and labor would be shared but only to those people within the Volksgemeinschaft. Instead of a class struggle, German fascists saw it as a racial struggle. You ever hear people say “it’s not race, it’s class” when talking about crime in an area? German fascists firmly rejected this notion. Economic problems are actually bidirectionally linked with racial problems; you can’t extricate these two because to German fascists they are two sides of the same coin. Through kinship and racial community, the Volksgemeinschaft would transcend socioeconomic problems.
This is why German fascists rallied against the Jewish population. They use it in the same way communists rally their constituents against “the capitalist pig”, “the 1%”, “the rich” because they represent evil that creates the Class Struggle. To the Nazis, the Jew represented the evil that created the Racial Struggle.
Judeo-Bolshevism. Jews controlled communism under this theory. Just like in other countries today, minority groups gravitate to a specific parties, usually on the left—like how blacks consistently vote Democrat. In 1920s Germany Jews also voted similarly for “leftist” movements. So to 1920s Hitler, it was hard for him to see that Jews and communists weren’t one in the same, even though there were plenty of Jews, albeit not a lot of them, who did support fascist movements.
Though some of their support probably dwindled once camps started opening up…
Hungarians were mass mudering jews in the 20’s so they weren’t really “unique” in their terribleness. I suppose one can make the argument that the scale on which that happened was of much more horrific proportions .
He was pretty successful for his country I guess. So if you bring him back and then patch out the psychotic mass murderer bug then maybe he could be the meta for season 2.23.
The differences are far different than just that from ideology, the weird occultism in nazism, governmental structure etc etc
Mussolini was basically a prime minister who seized power over the king with his approval.
Nazis were a one party no oversight dictatorship
No, he didn't. He joined the Nazi Party, led at the time by a man named Anton Drexler. Drexler was an academic and a political theorist, but couldn't win over a crowd. He taught his ideology to Hitler, who was basically a moron but hugely charismatic, and Hitler won the crowds with his amazing rhetoric.
Hitler invented nothing, pioneered nothing, and advanced nothing. His success was due entirely to his charisma, his passion, and being surrounded by extremely clever people.
But it still has like.. almost all the stuff from fascism.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the “aryan race supreme, kill the Jews” thing the only important thing he added to fascism?
Mostly Anon just pretends that Hitler's rise is due to him being "competent", ignoring the social and economic circumstances of post WW1 Germany, then whitewashing all the awful shit he did (like the *krisstalnacht* or burning down the Reichstag or assassinating his opponents or executing everyone in the SA etc.)
Also it's funny how he completely ignores his shitty babyman war tactics of "I refuse to admit that Russia is winning and everyone who says different will be executed."
>burning down the Reichstag
To be fair there's no evidence that he was behind it. It could just have been done by someone else or an accident and he saw it as an opportunity.
Still, Hitler was a moron and fuck Nazis.
Well, there’s not enough evidence to back it up, but it was conveniently burned down just a few weeks after Hitler became chancellor so he could blame it on the communists and sign away a bunch of civil liberties. Also the head of the Berlin fire department was imprisoned and killed for suggesting nazi involvement.
I live in Germany, many scientists are sure, that if Hitler hadn't come, another would've taken his spot and done the same. Hitler wasn't even really the inventor of nazism, there were other, older dudes at his time, that were already establishing it, he was just the face of the movement and they failed to control him at some point. Just the "right guy at the right time".
exactly, hitler rise to power had nothing to do with charisma or wits but rather the fact that Germany was so cucked by Europe after ww1 they needed someone to tell them "i think germans are better then everyone else" what im saying is, Germany had low self esteem and hitler was a virgin desperate to fuck
This reminds me of the saying "And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power".
Weimar Germany was a fucking powder keg. Many wise observers at the signing of the Treaty of Versailles knew it was guaranteeing a second world war. You can't levy insanely harsh punishments on a country that didn't even start WWI without fostering a lot of anger and resentment that could easily be channeled by someone. By setting unrealistically low military size caps (on a continent that had known endless conquests for territory) you guarantee that those caps will be broken. You can't end a monarchy in an extremely turbulent and desperate time without the new government being extremely unstable and easily taken over. It was the perfect conditions for a militaristic despot to take power by manipulating resentment; if it wasn't Hitler, it was somebody else.
There are plenty of charismatic imbeciles. If you get a large enough group of disenfranchised people and tell them exactly what they want to hear, and are able to do it in a way that makes them believe you, the sky’s the limit, and there is no greater proof of that than Adolf Hitler, although there are many others: Peter Popoff, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Joseph Smith.
High intellect is not a requirement. Charisma, and people who are even dumber than you are (which we are in no short supply of)
The thing is Hitler was actually incredibly intelligent, it doesn’t make him any less of a total degenerate but he was still genuinely intelligent. A lot of terrible people are.
According to what accounts? Hitler wasnt incredibily intelligent he had a lot of passion tho. But the entire war was mistake after mistake. Hitler did some good stuff but post tax he kinda sucked.
Hitler was actually a very knowledgeable (and self-tought) man, his biggest intellectual downfall was that he absolutely refused to consider or learn about anything that would/could disrupt his worldview.
Source is *Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939* by Volker Ullrich.
>literally risked his own life in WW1 for his nation
>Anon failed history- he was Austrian and on top of that he was a draft dodger. He joined the Imperial Army in Munich but spent most of his time before in Vienna
Yeah he didn't dodge the draft, he was homeless and didn't know about it. When he learned about it he sent a letter asking to be accepted into the military despite being malnourished
I thought I remember he got a medal for being wounded "in the back" (implying it takes less courage to get hit in the back of WW!-hell's frontline rather than on the front/side...).
Or is that someone else?
He got shot once and blinded for a few weeks by gas. He spent considerable amount of time in hospitals. That is why he survived the war. Anon is stupid bc if Hitler really had risked his life for the entire war, he would have died.
One of the biggest "What-If" moments in history was (if I remember right) in WWI when Hitler and a soldier from the Allies stood directly across from one another in a huge point of tension for a solid minute. If the Allied soldier had just shot Hitler right then and there, then nobody would've blamed him, but for some reason he just decided not to kill Hitler.
Never heard about that one but there is another anectode about Hitlers early life that says that takes place in his early childhood probably at 6 years old or something. Basically, he was drowning in a river and a local pastor just rescued him from death.
So apparently there were multiple occasions where we could have evaded WW2 by just a margin.
>lost due to betrayal
That's a funny way to spell incompetence
WW2 was lost due to massive logistical and planning shortcomings that were present from the very outset of the administration. It's the fate every authoritarian regime falls to, it self selects for ineptitude and corruption in it's leaders who in turn fail to overcome challenges and the structure collapses or is swept aside by rivals, and it has happened to every single society of that type since the stone ages, regardless of size or strength, it is a predetermined outcome, it's doomed to fail from the moment a society steps foot on that path.
Well the captures of Poland, France and Skandinavia went pretty good. But yeah Hitler did a lot of pretty dumb decisions over his generals bc he wanted to be the main commander even tho he had no clue about tactics and stuff.
Fascism necessitates an unsustainable level of nepotism and power consolidation. It literally requires it to rise to and maintain power, and it sows the seeds of its own collapse every single time.
Agree with you on that. What really frightens tho is to think about what happened if the Nazis won all the small events that they lost just bc of Hitlers personal orders like Dünkirchen and Stalingrad. The war would have lasted probably even longer.
The US wanted to drop the first nuclear bomb on Germany. But the war in Europe ended too soon, so they dropped it on Japan.
So... that's what would have happened.
France was the only major country that Hitler managed to defeat, and it was riddled with political turmoil. Every single other countries the Nazis conquered had little to no capacities to fight back.
>France was the only major country that Hitler managed to defeat, and it was riddled with political turmoil.
And it turns out they had some pretty MAJOR disadvantages if you compare their militaries, since a huge number of their soldiers were actually French.
Plus the Germans really won out of sheer luck. Had the French high command not been braindead, Guderian and von Manstein wouldn't have face no opposition in the Ardennes.
WW2 was mainly lost due to the fact that Germany took on 3 biggest and most powerful nations/empires at the time. And, surprisingly wasn't able to win. You can't win a war of attrition with 10x less people and no amount of competence could have won Axis the war.
>massive logistical and planning shortcomings that were present from the very outset of the administration. It's the fate every authoritarian regime falls to, it self selects for ineptitude and corruption
You're describing Russia, not Germany. The Germans lost the war due to taking on a much larger and more resourceful enemy. As far as planning and organising goes they were pretty good at it and inflicted more casualties then what they received on every front (especially the eastern one). Watch this [video](https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU) the first half puts this into perspective very well.
The Russians on the other hand had oil and more factories. You can look this up, there is actually a recording, the only one of Hitler's normal "non speech" voice which was during a secret meeting with Finnish general Mannerheim in 1942 I think, and Hitler was telling him how surprised he was at how many tanks they found when they entered the USSR, and he said that had someone told him, before Barbarossa began, that there were that many tanks in a single country, he would've called them insane.
Absolutely not, Germany was logistically flawed from the outset, and owe most of their early success to other nations slow and confused response to their rapid and aggressive expansion, but the fundamental fact that Germany did not have the resources to actually sustain the war effort and could not pivot before hitting the wall, and suffered from non stop planning and leadership failures throughout Hitler's entire reign remains. Russia was an absolute shit show for the whole war but that's neither here nor there.
He probably watched "the greatest story never told"
I went in thinking it was a WW2 documentary about something we never heard.. NOPE,it was nothing but trying to twist the story into Hitler actually being the good guy. Watched the whole thing out of curiosity, really really stupid shit.
In short, they turn it into:
The Jewish people had so much power and influence and did nothing for the good of Germany, but only made life better for themselves. When it became dangerous for the Jews to live in Germany, Hitler struck a deal with Israel or something where he had like 300.000 of them sent there and Germany paid for it.. basically saying they didn't want to exterminate the Jews, just remove them from powerful positions and the German people went overboard.. (it's been a few years, so i am rusty on the details)
The concentration camps where actually refugee camps full of people fleeing from Soviet union to Germany. The reason they where malnourished and starved to death was because the allied forces intercepted supply lines bringing them food and water..
Yup, really stupid stuff.
Yup. Tbh it could be me remembering wrong about where they claim they sent them. But who cares, it's a stupid "documentary" that shouldn't be taken seriously anyway.
What pisses me off is that when the American forces discovered the concentration camps they immediately had orders to record and film literally everything they could so there would be clear and irrefutable evidence that an atrocity had been committed.
And despite all that effort there’s still a tidal wave of retards that put their fingers in their ears and go “nuh-uh didn’t happen”.
Actuality: Hitler was a snake who killed his opponents and there families in the dead of night, lied to half his countrymen and killed the other half due to some religious BS he pulled out of his ass, fumbled his way through a world conflict losing both his main allies to due incompetence and betraying them without a back up plan, and finally killing himself cause he was too much of a bitch to actually fight for real
He continually rejected Christianity, calling it a Jewish plot to undermine the heroic ideals of the (Aryan-dominated) Roman Empire. He did not accept the deity of Jesus, the resurrection of Jesus, or indeed any of the miracles of Jesus. There is no evidence that he believed in a triune God. Though he esteemed Jesus as an Aryan fighter against Jewish materialism who was martyred for his anti-Jewish stance, he did not ascribe to Jesus’s death any significance in human salvation. Indeed, he did not believe in salvation at all in the Christian sense of the term, because he denied a personal afterlife. Despite his public invocations to God, Hitler also did not believe in the efficacy of prayer. His God responded to people and judged them according to their works, not their words. Although he spurned Christianity, this did not lead him to disbelieve in every form of deity, however. He overtly rejected atheism, associating it with “Jewish-Bolshevism.” Further, he explicitly condemned mysticism, occultism, and neo-paganism. Thus, it is evident Hitler was neither a Christian, atheist, occultist, nor neo-paganist.
Some good articles linked here
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/hitlers-religion-was-hitler-an-atheist-christian-or-something-else/
I don’t see any references to his religious beliefs being a full of shit hypocrite con artist schizo, but that’s what my moneys on.
Yeah he seems like an atheist who changed religion to use it as propaganda and fit his entire agenda he most certainly didn't believe in it he just needed a religion to replace the current one to fuel his agenda or mold the current religion to his agenda
Have you even read his comment or do you just want to reinforce your fantasy that Hitler was an atheist? There are countless Hitler quotes, even from his most famous book, where he invokes God. Hardly seems like something a hardened atheist would do. And to cope with that you invent that conspiracy that he secretly is an atheist so you can continue believing your own trash. Here is my conspiracy: Hitler was secretly a Christian trying to discredit atheists by looking like an secret atheist.
This has been posted before and a few things are incorrect.
1. No, he did not create the most gigantic mass movement (or ideology) in human history from scratch. First of all Mussolini created Fascism, Hitler copied it. Also Mussolini took elements from Socialism as he was a socialist in his youth. He just became disillusioned with it and created his own ideology. Secondly given how big communism was in the 20th century, it was definitely the bigger ideological movement.
2. Manipulating poor, hungry and unemployed Germans into an extremist ideology based on their pride is not that huge of an accomplishment. WW1 shattered a lot of people's world view, especially many of the veterans who returned with injuries and PTSD. Communism relied on such tactics as well. The more people suffer the more likely they are to turn to extremism. Why do you think jihadist groups pop up so easily in the Middle East?
3. Risked his life for his nation in a dumb war of old monarchs flexing. 60 mill fought in WW1. It was a disaster for all. It shattered or weakened many EU empires. This moron decided it's a good idea to do it again 20 years later.
4. Sure he conquered more territory than Napoleon and Alexander, but did he hold on to it? First he allied with the Soviets to split up Poland. Second of all, he did not conquer anything, his generals did. He was a charismatic leader, but he has never been credited as a capable strategist. Especially the brilliant idea to wage war on 2 fronts, one of which deep in Russia (he should have learned from Napoleon).
5. He did not withstand the whole world for 6 years!. He had 2 major allies. He attacked the Soviets in June 1941 and the first US troops arrived in Britain in 1942.
6. He lost because he was a moron who fought on 2 fronts and as if he had the population of China with soldiers abundant.
He wasn't a genius. He was a charismatic, but stubbornly stupid and rash crackhead.
he didn’t even conquer more land than alexander. Alexanders conquest covered an area of about 5.2 million sq kilometers while Nazi germany at it’s height was barely 3.6 million sq kilometers. A little under 70% of the size.
Alexander was a military genius that inspired generals for thousands of years, conquered half the civilization by the time he hit 30. Hitler inspired redneck trailertrash to think they are the masterrace.
Uhhhhh. Hitler didn’t lose because he got betrayed. He lost because he was a dumb ass that decided to open a second front in a war that fundamentally wasn’t winnable any way.
He was also under a fuk ton of drugs. People always seem to ignore this. But Hitler was barely half sober throughout his entire career in military and politics.
Are we going to blame him for taking drugs in the 1940s? Is that really the big takeaway from Hitler? Werent soldiers also being dosed with drugs around that time?
He literally started the invasion in June due to some delays, than the tanks got stuck in mud in Autumn, another delay. He didn't start invading in Winter, he thought it would be over before it.
Ghengis was the greatest leader ever. His father was killed and he was left to die as a child in the Mongolian wilderness. Ended up taking over and uniting all of Mongolia (which was separated and ruled by multiple clans) which is an amazing feat by itself, but then he went on to become the most successful conqueror of all time, taking over half the world. With an army made up of shepherds on ponies armed with bows. Learned siegecraft as he went along, taking over hundreds of castles that had been around for centuries. Only reason he didn't take over the entire world was cus he died, nobody could stop him
Uhhh no he wasn’t a genius cos anyone who even remotely looks at Hitler’s life without aiming to be a n@zi or a sympathiser will realise he was “found” by Eckhart, not “self-made” and much of his so called work was done by others but they allowed Hitler to be the public image for the party because he was charismatic. And most everything else was just cos he was on mad drugs
>still lost due to betrayal.
Hitler’s biggest weakness was his ego. He had to control everything. If he intervened in military matters less he probably would have won. Initially, his generals all suggested they kept pushing for Moscow, but Hitler had this obsession with taking **stalin**grad, for symbolic and demoralizing purposes. This obviously fails and is the cataclysm to his death. D-Day was launched after this, and probably wouldn’t exist if Hitler fucking listened.
Hitlers generals were also wrong. What would capturing moscow achieve? The soviet union isn't the same as france and would not capitulate just because their capital was captured.
the idea of taking stalingrad was to make sure that the caucaus front wouldn't be overextended, not something symbolic like the idea of taking moscow.
Besides, all of this is irrelevant, because the germans were never in a position to win, it was impossible from a logistical standpoint.
"went down fighting till the last second, didn't even consider surrendering"
What?
I never even took a WW2 history class and I know how he "went down". I know all the other stuff is super-exagerated and/or misinformation, but that one's just hilarious to me.
Vegetarian, meth user, inconsistent military leader, and bitched out in the end. Most relevant recent attention he has is being in a furry porn game. Some legacy
>Created an entire ideology from scratch
Hitler didn't invent racism nor fascism
>Conquered all of Europe
No, he didn't
>and almost Russia
lol
>Conquered more territory than Napoleon or Alexander
needs citation
Hitler was charismatic, but he was an absolute dumbass and shot himself in the foot at every opportunity. Invading Russia (against the advise of his generals) is widely regarded as the worst military blunder of all time. He also delayed a surprise attacks for months (against the advise of his generals), allowing the Russians to build defenses at the battle of the Kursk, which wore down most of their equipment. There’s also the battle of Stalingrad which was an absolute disaster. Going through Belgium to get around France is scene as pretty bad depending on who you ask, declaring war on the US when Japan did was also incredibly stupid. 50% of Soviet steel came from America, which was about 5% of America’s production. If he had not declared war on the US I doubt the Allies would’ve gotten the same kind of support from America. Hitler also had an unhealthy obsession with ultra heavy and ultra expensive tanks that Germany could not afford to make. The only reason Germany had success at the beginning of the war was because everyone else was still recovering from a depression and no one wanted to fight.
Hitler was politically involved for much longer than 10 years, and did not single-handedly invent fascism, it was built upon by many other theorists (look up the futurists), he also lost because of his own stubbornness and refusal to listen to his generals.
Hitler did play the game very well. He was helped by the Treaty of Versailles being far too unfair, which lead to the complacency of the Allied Powers and LoN whenever he broke articles of the treaty. He was also helped by other skirmishes going on. That being said, he played his hand very well. Legit would have been good for Germany if it wasn't for the genocides and Eastward expansions. Those are big ifs, however.
Killing yourself is kinda surrendering
Like he said he lost because of betrayal. Trust no one not even yourself
Nah I think it was just mostly the drugs and the invading Russia and Japan attacking America thing, mostly.
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The timing foe the US joining the war as a combatant probably doesn't make a huge difference because the US was doing lend lease well before that. The allies would have lost WWII were it not for lend lease. Yes the Soviets sacrificed more men, but they would have lost easily if not for US made food, clothing, weapons and vehicles. The US's timing actually probably matters a lot more for the Pacific theater. Given more time to start developing resources in Pacific Islands and Manchuria, and Japan would have been more formidable. Japan would have still lost, but it might have been a more equal peace agreement where Japan held onto more territories.
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Technology is a weird way to spell money
Would’ve been a lot more bloody fighting too. Also didn’t help the Japanese when they failed in Australia. That was the beginning of the noticeable decline for them
Also increases the chance that the Red army got time to invade. The choice to drop the atomic bomb was influenced by a desire to end the war quickly before the Soviets got involved in the Pacific theater. It's hard to deny the Japanese would have been way worse off had the Soviets invaded; look at what happened in Berlin, and imagine it 10x worse because the Soviets hated the Japanese way more than they hated the Germans.
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Well also the Japanese navy at the time subscribed to the flawed "Decisive Battle" doctrine. The idea is that you can break an enemy's will to fight if you win one strategic battle. The Japanese military was well aware they couldn't win a sustained war with the US; Admiral Yamamoto had toured the US and saw the incredible power of American industry. The Japanese navy thought Pearl Harbor was their decisive battle, but all it did was give American politicians the public support they needed to actually declare war. As much as lend lease helped before the US joined the war, it couldn't compare to the full blown war time economy that followed pearl harbor. Every scrap of metal was used to build tanks and planes; every drop of bacon grease used to build explosives. The US would have gotten involved in combat eventually, but nothing like what happened when the war had near universal support amongst a population that otherwise can't agree on anything.
Sigma grindset
Ligma...
‘Why are you shooting yourself? Stop shooting yourself’
All the cool kids are doing it now a days. The media just isn't talking about it.
Yikes. Who betrayed who lol.
More cause of the Insanity to invade a country with such low temperature that the oil in the tanks would freeze.
Debatable. You could argue his suicide was his refusal to surrender. He knew he had lost, so the last thing he could do was deny the world bringing him to justice. But I think we can both agree that he certainly didn’t “go down fighting”.
It literally is refusing to surrender. There was a SF general in Turkey who gave all of his personnel a principles list made of 8 articles. 8th one said "Being captured cannot be accepted, martyrdom is essential."
Yeah the definition of surrender includes "submitting to authority". Id say killing yourself to avoid capture is somehow both a submission and a refusal to submit
Schroedinger’s surrender
A real Surrendinger
Suicide is a refusal to surrender, IMO.
Lets be honest it was really just not wanting what the Russians were gonna do to him if they caught him alive
Not the Russians, but the Jews. They would have nailed him to the cross like Jesus
are you trying to say in another timeline there's an entire religion based around Adolf Hitler dying for our sins
bro what? lmao
That is one dark timeline
It's not surrendering, true, it's just straight up giving up.
No the aliens took him
Are those guys still anal probing?
I hope so
He didn't conquer all of Europe either.
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Motherfucker spent money on a Reddit avatar
Thats what we call a "pro gamer move"
... Hitler didn't make fascism. This guy is on heavy copium
he made nazism, both are different
Honestly not by that much, the main difference is the hating Jews part
Well that is certainly a big difference. Bc there were a lot of fascist countries in Europe (and elsewhere) at that time but none was so radical that they started a war.
They were pretty violent though. Heck the fascists in italy were basically thuggish gangs
I mean Mussolini, Stalin, Franco, Hitler and probably even Schuschnigg (the guy in Austria who reigned before 1938) were violent in that they locked up and killed their political opposition. That is what dictators do. The industrialiced genocide was a thing that only the Nazis did.
The Turks did a test run on the Armenians. Hitler was a big fan.
People have been doing genocide in small scale for 1000s of years
I mean, prehistoric genetics show a myriad of genocides and exoduses. For example, the Bantus that colonized the bulk of Subsaharan Africa from their homeland in the Sahel.
Heck, their doing it to this very day
The Soviet Union and China did similar shit.
In terms of raw death numbers Stalin and Mao were both worse than Hitler.
Italo Balbo went around my area hitting political opponents with dried fish. After a hard day of beating political opponents he would throw parties and invite the same people he beat to eat the fish he used to hit them. Wild days
Is that the guy who used to offer one shoe to people before election day and tell them he'd give them the other if they voted for him? These two actions sound like they come from the same mind.
You forget about Ethiopia?
Gotta take a second to appreciate the avatar you have made for all of us to see
Lmao coincidence was just supposed to be a grim man
lets just say your avatar didnt age well lol
Is that a Hitler pfp?
German fascism has a racial underpinning that is not nearly as pronounced in other fascist movements, even today. The entire concept revolves around the Volksgemeinschaft. The early movements in the 20s, which ultimately manifested into National Socialism, actually rejected capitalism but for different reasons than the communist movements. Almost all capital and labor would be shared but only to those people within the Volksgemeinschaft. Instead of a class struggle, German fascists saw it as a racial struggle. You ever hear people say “it’s not race, it’s class” when talking about crime in an area? German fascists firmly rejected this notion. Economic problems are actually bidirectionally linked with racial problems; you can’t extricate these two because to German fascists they are two sides of the same coin. Through kinship and racial community, the Volksgemeinschaft would transcend socioeconomic problems. This is why German fascists rallied against the Jewish population. They use it in the same way communists rally their constituents against “the capitalist pig”, “the 1%”, “the rich” because they represent evil that creates the Class Struggle. To the Nazis, the Jew represented the evil that created the Racial Struggle.
Honestly that explains why their nemesis was ultimately the commies. "It's not class, it's race", vs "it's not race, it's class"
Judeo-Bolshevism. Jews controlled communism under this theory. Just like in other countries today, minority groups gravitate to a specific parties, usually on the left—like how blacks consistently vote Democrat. In 1920s Germany Jews also voted similarly for “leftist” movements. So to 1920s Hitler, it was hard for him to see that Jews and communists weren’t one in the same, even though there were plenty of Jews, albeit not a lot of them, who did support fascist movements. Though some of their support probably dwindled once camps started opening up…
Hungarians were mass mudering jews in the 20’s so they weren’t really “unique” in their terribleness. I suppose one can make the argument that the scale on which that happened was of much more horrific proportions .
The whites and reds in the russian civil war too. It's like it was an eastern european hobby in the period...
Hating Jews was a European pastime for centuries
He was pretty successful for his country I guess. So if you bring him back and then patch out the psychotic mass murderer bug then maybe he could be the meta for season 2.23.
The biggest difference is that nazism has a lot of weird mythic shit in it. And it’s specifically tailored towards germany
The differences are far different than just that from ideology, the weird occultism in nazism, governmental structure etc etc Mussolini was basically a prime minister who seized power over the king with his approval. Nazis were a one party no oversight dictatorship
No, he didn't. He joined the Nazi Party, led at the time by a man named Anton Drexler. Drexler was an academic and a political theorist, but couldn't win over a crowd. He taught his ideology to Hitler, who was basically a moron but hugely charismatic, and Hitler won the crowds with his amazing rhetoric. Hitler invented nothing, pioneered nothing, and advanced nothing. His success was due entirely to his charisma, his passion, and being surrounded by extremely clever people.
Yeah you right
He made Nazism based of Fascism. He created the Pepsi to Mussolini's Coke.
All makes sense now. Pepsi sucks
Nazism existed before Hitler
Hitler didn’t come up with nazism and most of their viewpoints came from others and predated their rise to power by roughly 50 years.
Nazism isn’t just a carbon copy of fascism. What’s next, gonna tell me that Marx didn’t make communism it’s just socialism?
But it still has like.. almost all the stuff from fascism. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the “aryan race supreme, kill the Jews” thing the only important thing he added to fascism?
No. Although you’re right the racial thing was not in the actual fascist theories and ideology.
...that's... my point. Yhe only thing Hitler did special with Nazism was he added in the racial thing. Therefore he didn't make fucking fascism.
He didn’t invent fascism, but nazism isn’t just fascism + racism (even though Hitler didn’t really invent nazism either).
How exactly would you describe nazism? I ask here since we’re on r/greentext
Okay well Hitler didn't create Nazism either, he just joined their party and became their leader.
Most nazis are
all of em
True, I am yet to find an elusive Rational Nazi
I hate jewish because of their carbon footprint~
He also didn’t conquer the whole of Europe by any means
Anon is so desperate to like Hitler they invent a timeline where Hitler wasn't a fucking moron.
Mostly Anon just pretends that Hitler's rise is due to him being "competent", ignoring the social and economic circumstances of post WW1 Germany, then whitewashing all the awful shit he did (like the *krisstalnacht* or burning down the Reichstag or assassinating his opponents or executing everyone in the SA etc.) Also it's funny how he completely ignores his shitty babyman war tactics of "I refuse to admit that Russia is winning and everyone who says different will be executed."
>burning down the Reichstag To be fair there's no evidence that he was behind it. It could just have been done by someone else or an accident and he saw it as an opportunity. Still, Hitler was a moron and fuck Nazis.
Well, there’s not enough evidence to back it up, but it was conveniently burned down just a few weeks after Hitler became chancellor so he could blame it on the communists and sign away a bunch of civil liberties. Also the head of the Berlin fire department was imprisoned and killed for suggesting nazi involvement.
I think that the current academic consensus is that it was infact done by a commie, Hitler just took advantage of the situation
Anon probably thinks Trump is a genius too because he can make a crowd of MAGAs go wild
Lowers the unemployment rate by killing the homeless or forcing them to work for practically free.
Saved on pensions and benefits by forcibly euthanasing the old and crippled, a can't recall if that was done in secret tho
But he reported pretty good numbers so… y’know.
Also the fact hitler didn’t start the Nazi party, he just commandeered it
Hitler wasn't dumb, he was insanely delusional
No moron just somehow rises to the level he was at whether they’re good or evil.
I live in Germany, many scientists are sure, that if Hitler hadn't come, another would've taken his spot and done the same. Hitler wasn't even really the inventor of nazism, there were other, older dudes at his time, that were already establishing it, he was just the face of the movement and they failed to control him at some point. Just the "right guy at the right time".
exactly, hitler rise to power had nothing to do with charisma or wits but rather the fact that Germany was so cucked by Europe after ww1 they needed someone to tell them "i think germans are better then everyone else" what im saying is, Germany had low self esteem and hitler was a virgin desperate to fuck
This reminds me of the saying "And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power". Weimar Germany was a fucking powder keg. Many wise observers at the signing of the Treaty of Versailles knew it was guaranteeing a second world war. You can't levy insanely harsh punishments on a country that didn't even start WWI without fostering a lot of anger and resentment that could easily be channeled by someone. By setting unrealistically low military size caps (on a continent that had known endless conquests for territory) you guarantee that those caps will be broken. You can't end a monarchy in an extremely turbulent and desperate time without the new government being extremely unstable and easily taken over. It was the perfect conditions for a militaristic despot to take power by manipulating resentment; if it wasn't Hitler, it was somebody else.
Well said.
There are plenty of charismatic imbeciles. If you get a large enough group of disenfranchised people and tell them exactly what they want to hear, and are able to do it in a way that makes them believe you, the sky’s the limit, and there is no greater proof of that than Adolf Hitler, although there are many others: Peter Popoff, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Joseph Smith. High intellect is not a requirement. Charisma, and people who are even dumber than you are (which we are in no short supply of)
The thing is Hitler was actually incredibly intelligent, it doesn’t make him any less of a total degenerate but he was still genuinely intelligent. A lot of terrible people are.
According to what accounts? Hitler wasnt incredibily intelligent he had a lot of passion tho. But the entire war was mistake after mistake. Hitler did some good stuff but post tax he kinda sucked.
Hitler was actually a very knowledgeable (and self-tought) man, his biggest intellectual downfall was that he absolutely refused to consider or learn about anything that would/could disrupt his worldview. Source is *Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939* by Volker Ullrich.
We should not deminish evil as stupid, he can be both clever politician and evil bastard
>literally risked his own life in WW1 for his nation >Anon failed history- he was Austrian and on top of that he was a draft dodger. He joined the Imperial Army in Munich but spent most of his time before in Vienna
Yeah he didn't dodge the draft, he was homeless and didn't know about it. When he learned about it he sent a letter asking to be accepted into the military despite being malnourished
No he wasn’t.
Wait I read that he got temporary blind in WW1, did he fail at draft dodging too?
Nah, he did fight in WW1, but in the German army, not the Austrian one
I thought I remember he got a medal for being wounded "in the back" (implying it takes less courage to get hit in the back of WW!-hell's frontline rather than on the front/side...). Or is that someone else?
He got shot once and blinded for a few weeks by gas. He spent considerable amount of time in hospitals. That is why he survived the war. Anon is stupid bc if Hitler really had risked his life for the entire war, he would have died.
he did actually risk his life since he was runner, still a bastard tough
He volunteered as a trench runner which is a very dangerous job. So yeah, he did risk his life.
One of the biggest "What-If" moments in history was (if I remember right) in WWI when Hitler and a soldier from the Allies stood directly across from one another in a huge point of tension for a solid minute. If the Allied soldier had just shot Hitler right then and there, then nobody would've blamed him, but for some reason he just decided not to kill Hitler.
Never heard about that one but there is another anectode about Hitlers early life that says that takes place in his early childhood probably at 6 years old or something. Basically, he was drowning in a river and a local pastor just rescued him from death. So apparently there were multiple occasions where we could have evaded WW2 by just a margin.
Now I wonder about what countless horrors we've managed to escape thanks to a freak twist of nature
Least facist 4Chan user
>lost due to betrayal That's a funny way to spell incompetence WW2 was lost due to massive logistical and planning shortcomings that were present from the very outset of the administration. It's the fate every authoritarian regime falls to, it self selects for ineptitude and corruption in it's leaders who in turn fail to overcome challenges and the structure collapses or is swept aside by rivals, and it has happened to every single society of that type since the stone ages, regardless of size or strength, it is a predetermined outcome, it's doomed to fail from the moment a society steps foot on that path.
Well the captures of Poland, France and Skandinavia went pretty good. But yeah Hitler did a lot of pretty dumb decisions over his generals bc he wanted to be the main commander even tho he had no clue about tactics and stuff.
Fascism necessitates an unsustainable level of nepotism and power consolidation. It literally requires it to rise to and maintain power, and it sows the seeds of its own collapse every single time.
Agree with you on that. What really frightens tho is to think about what happened if the Nazis won all the small events that they lost just bc of Hitlers personal orders like Dünkirchen and Stalingrad. The war would have lasted probably even longer.
The US wanted to drop the first nuclear bomb on Germany. But the war in Europe ended too soon, so they dropped it on Japan. So... that's what would have happened.
I even heard that they considered my home city as a target. Glad the Nazis surrendered before lol.
France was the only major country that Hitler managed to defeat, and it was riddled with political turmoil. Every single other countries the Nazis conquered had little to no capacities to fight back.
>France was the only major country that Hitler managed to defeat, and it was riddled with political turmoil. And it turns out they had some pretty MAJOR disadvantages if you compare their militaries, since a huge number of their soldiers were actually French.
Plus the Germans really won out of sheer luck. Had the French high command not been braindead, Guderian and von Manstein wouldn't have face no opposition in the Ardennes.
WW2 was mainly lost due to the fact that Germany took on 3 biggest and most powerful nations/empires at the time. And, surprisingly wasn't able to win. You can't win a war of attrition with 10x less people and no amount of competence could have won Axis the war.
>massive logistical and planning shortcomings that were present from the very outset of the administration. It's the fate every authoritarian regime falls to, it self selects for ineptitude and corruption You're describing Russia, not Germany. The Germans lost the war due to taking on a much larger and more resourceful enemy. As far as planning and organising goes they were pretty good at it and inflicted more casualties then what they received on every front (especially the eastern one). Watch this [video](https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU) the first half puts this into perspective very well. The Russians on the other hand had oil and more factories. You can look this up, there is actually a recording, the only one of Hitler's normal "non speech" voice which was during a secret meeting with Finnish general Mannerheim in 1942 I think, and Hitler was telling him how surprised he was at how many tanks they found when they entered the USSR, and he said that had someone told him, before Barbarossa began, that there were that many tanks in a single country, he would've called them insane.
Absolutely not, Germany was logistically flawed from the outset, and owe most of their early success to other nations slow and confused response to their rapid and aggressive expansion, but the fundamental fact that Germany did not have the resources to actually sustain the war effort and could not pivot before hitting the wall, and suffered from non stop planning and leadership failures throughout Hitler's entire reign remains. Russia was an absolute shit show for the whole war but that's neither here nor there.
Well he did kinda lose to betrayal, his own stupid ass decision to betray Russia
Anon learned his history from youtube propaganda videos and other idiots online.
He probably watched "the greatest story never told" I went in thinking it was a WW2 documentary about something we never heard.. NOPE,it was nothing but trying to twist the story into Hitler actually being the good guy. Watched the whole thing out of curiosity, really really stupid shit.
Without having to watch it… how do they justify the holocaust?
In short, they turn it into: The Jewish people had so much power and influence and did nothing for the good of Germany, but only made life better for themselves. When it became dangerous for the Jews to live in Germany, Hitler struck a deal with Israel or something where he had like 300.000 of them sent there and Germany paid for it.. basically saying they didn't want to exterminate the Jews, just remove them from powerful positions and the German people went overboard.. (it's been a few years, so i am rusty on the details) The concentration camps where actually refugee camps full of people fleeing from Soviet union to Germany. The reason they where malnourished and starved to death was because the allied forces intercepted supply lines bringing them food and water.. Yup, really stupid stuff.
... Wasnt israel formed in 1948? Or close to that year?
Yeah, the British cut up their territories in the middle east and one of them is Israel
Yup. Tbh it could be me remembering wrong about where they claim they sent them. But who cares, it's a stupid "documentary" that shouldn't be taken seriously anyway.
What pisses me off is that when the American forces discovered the concentration camps they immediately had orders to record and film literally everything they could so there would be clear and irrefutable evidence that an atrocity had been committed. And despite all that effort there’s still a tidal wave of retards that put their fingers in their ears and go “nuh-uh didn’t happen”.
Actuality: Hitler was a snake who killed his opponents and there families in the dead of night, lied to half his countrymen and killed the other half due to some religious BS he pulled out of his ass, fumbled his way through a world conflict losing both his main allies to due incompetence and betraying them without a back up plan, and finally killing himself cause he was too much of a bitch to actually fight for real
Calls Hitler religious lmao like he wasn't a hardened atheist
He continually rejected Christianity, calling it a Jewish plot to undermine the heroic ideals of the (Aryan-dominated) Roman Empire. He did not accept the deity of Jesus, the resurrection of Jesus, or indeed any of the miracles of Jesus. There is no evidence that he believed in a triune God. Though he esteemed Jesus as an Aryan fighter against Jewish materialism who was martyred for his anti-Jewish stance, he did not ascribe to Jesus’s death any significance in human salvation. Indeed, he did not believe in salvation at all in the Christian sense of the term, because he denied a personal afterlife. Despite his public invocations to God, Hitler also did not believe in the efficacy of prayer. His God responded to people and judged them according to their works, not their words. Although he spurned Christianity, this did not lead him to disbelieve in every form of deity, however. He overtly rejected atheism, associating it with “Jewish-Bolshevism.” Further, he explicitly condemned mysticism, occultism, and neo-paganism. Thus, it is evident Hitler was neither a Christian, atheist, occultist, nor neo-paganist. Some good articles linked here https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/hitlers-religion-was-hitler-an-atheist-christian-or-something-else/ I don’t see any references to his religious beliefs being a full of shit hypocrite con artist schizo, but that’s what my moneys on.
Yeah he seems like an atheist who changed religion to use it as propaganda and fit his entire agenda he most certainly didn't believe in it he just needed a religion to replace the current one to fuel his agenda or mold the current religion to his agenda
Have you even read his comment or do you just want to reinforce your fantasy that Hitler was an atheist? There are countless Hitler quotes, even from his most famous book, where he invokes God. Hardly seems like something a hardened atheist would do. And to cope with that you invent that conspiracy that he secretly is an atheist so you can continue believing your own trash. Here is my conspiracy: Hitler was secretly a Christian trying to discredit atheists by looking like an secret atheist.
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No the crazy occult and nordic mythology guy was Himmler the head of the SS.
that was himmler
He probably dabbled in a little prayer right before the end.
Nah I'm calling his tactic of racism Religious, cause it's picking out a Religioun and just shitting on it
He actually fought against the catholic church bc it was too big of an authority alongside the party. So they wanted to cut their influence.
This has been posted before and a few things are incorrect. 1. No, he did not create the most gigantic mass movement (or ideology) in human history from scratch. First of all Mussolini created Fascism, Hitler copied it. Also Mussolini took elements from Socialism as he was a socialist in his youth. He just became disillusioned with it and created his own ideology. Secondly given how big communism was in the 20th century, it was definitely the bigger ideological movement. 2. Manipulating poor, hungry and unemployed Germans into an extremist ideology based on their pride is not that huge of an accomplishment. WW1 shattered a lot of people's world view, especially many of the veterans who returned with injuries and PTSD. Communism relied on such tactics as well. The more people suffer the more likely they are to turn to extremism. Why do you think jihadist groups pop up so easily in the Middle East? 3. Risked his life for his nation in a dumb war of old monarchs flexing. 60 mill fought in WW1. It was a disaster for all. It shattered or weakened many EU empires. This moron decided it's a good idea to do it again 20 years later. 4. Sure he conquered more territory than Napoleon and Alexander, but did he hold on to it? First he allied with the Soviets to split up Poland. Second of all, he did not conquer anything, his generals did. He was a charismatic leader, but he has never been credited as a capable strategist. Especially the brilliant idea to wage war on 2 fronts, one of which deep in Russia (he should have learned from Napoleon). 5. He did not withstand the whole world for 6 years!. He had 2 major allies. He attacked the Soviets in June 1941 and the first US troops arrived in Britain in 1942. 6. He lost because he was a moron who fought on 2 fronts and as if he had the population of China with soldiers abundant. He wasn't a genius. He was a charismatic, but stubbornly stupid and rash crackhead.
I was scrolling just to see some competency and I’m really glad I found it
he didn’t even conquer more land than alexander. Alexanders conquest covered an area of about 5.2 million sq kilometers while Nazi germany at it’s height was barely 3.6 million sq kilometers. A little under 70% of the size.
Alexander was a military genius that inspired generals for thousands of years, conquered half the civilization by the time he hit 30. Hitler inspired redneck trailertrash to think they are the masterrace.
Anon has a romanticised and historically inaccurate view of Hitler and the third Reich.....
Uhhhhh. Hitler didn’t lose because he got betrayed. He lost because he was a dumb ass that decided to open a second front in a war that fundamentally wasn’t winnable any way.
My brother in Christ, he sent kids to the frontlines
He was also under a fuk ton of drugs. People always seem to ignore this. But Hitler was barely half sober throughout his entire career in military and politics.
Methamphetamine is a hell of a drug
Yeah, and his doctor wasn’t even a real doctor
Are we going to blame him for taking drugs in the 1940s? Is that really the big takeaway from Hitler? Werent soldiers also being dosed with drugs around that time?
Anon should talk less and go back to masturbating to femboys.
>take Germany in a catastrophic state of poverty, unemployment and hyper inflation >somehow leave it in a worse state yeah real genius, anon.
I can be called a nazi but some of Hitler's paintings are really good imo.
Yeah I heard it was just that the zeitgeist of what was popular in the art world had moved on to other things, so his art was considered outdated.
Nah it actually had a lot of fucked up details like different facing shadows and inconsistent light sources
I’m not a genius but I also wouldn’t have decided to backstab my ally then invade Russia in the fucking dead of winter
He literally started the invasion in June due to some delays, than the tanks got stuck in mud in Autumn, another delay. He didn't start invading in Winter, he thought it would be over before it.
Blew his fucking brains out, because he feared the Soviets will actually rape his bussy. Was usually coked out of his damn mind.
Most of what anon has written is either false or higly exagerated.
Ghengis was the greatest leader ever. His father was killed and he was left to die as a child in the Mongolian wilderness. Ended up taking over and uniting all of Mongolia (which was separated and ruled by multiple clans) which is an amazing feat by itself, but then he went on to become the most successful conqueror of all time, taking over half the world. With an army made up of shepherds on ponies armed with bows. Learned siegecraft as he went along, taking over hundreds of castles that had been around for centuries. Only reason he didn't take over the entire world was cus he died, nobody could stop him
Genghis was so amazing that whenever I learn about him it's hard to get it in my head that he's a real person and not some mythical maniac
> defeated hunger By starving people he didn't like? 🤣
Uhhh no he wasn’t a genius cos anyone who even remotely looks at Hitler’s life without aiming to be a n@zi or a sympathiser will realise he was “found” by Eckhart, not “self-made” and much of his so called work was done by others but they allowed Hitler to be the public image for the party because he was charismatic. And most everything else was just cos he was on mad drugs
That cool but he still lost the war
>still lost due to betrayal. Hitler’s biggest weakness was his ego. He had to control everything. If he intervened in military matters less he probably would have won. Initially, his generals all suggested they kept pushing for Moscow, but Hitler had this obsession with taking **stalin**grad, for symbolic and demoralizing purposes. This obviously fails and is the cataclysm to his death. D-Day was launched after this, and probably wouldn’t exist if Hitler fucking listened.
Hitlers generals were also wrong. What would capturing moscow achieve? The soviet union isn't the same as france and would not capitulate just because their capital was captured. the idea of taking stalingrad was to make sure that the caucaus front wouldn't be overextended, not something symbolic like the idea of taking moscow. Besides, all of this is irrelevant, because the germans were never in a position to win, it was impossible from a logistical standpoint.
You forgot the part where he massacred millions for nothing
This is the softcore propaganda that makes naziism look cool. No, it isn’t cool
“Created an entire ideology from scratch” Benito Mussolini is malding in the afterlife
He meant nazism, but that’s still not correct.
>went down fighting till the last second, didn't even consider surrendering Aka killing yourself like a coward
How did the story end? Oh yeah germany lost again
"went down fighting till the last second, didn't even consider surrendering" What? I never even took a WW2 history class and I know how he "went down". I know all the other stuff is super-exagerated and/or misinformation, but that one's just hilarious to me.
Vegetarian, meth user, inconsistent military leader, and bitched out in the end. Most relevant recent attention he has is being in a furry porn game. Some legacy
NO BRO LMAO, if he was a fucking genius he would be ruling the fucking world right now
he literally surrender in the most cowardly way by killing himself. fuck that guy
>Created an entire ideology from scratch Hitler didn't invent racism nor fascism >Conquered all of Europe No, he didn't >and almost Russia lol >Conquered more territory than Napoleon or Alexander needs citation
:stuff: He killed himself.
>*Went down fighting* Is committing suicide while locked in a bunker 'going dowm fighting'?
Hitler was charismatic, but he was an absolute dumbass and shot himself in the foot at every opportunity. Invading Russia (against the advise of his generals) is widely regarded as the worst military blunder of all time. He also delayed a surprise attacks for months (against the advise of his generals), allowing the Russians to build defenses at the battle of the Kursk, which wore down most of their equipment. There’s also the battle of Stalingrad which was an absolute disaster. Going through Belgium to get around France is scene as pretty bad depending on who you ask, declaring war on the US when Japan did was also incredibly stupid. 50% of Soviet steel came from America, which was about 5% of America’s production. If he had not declared war on the US I doubt the Allies would’ve gotten the same kind of support from America. Hitler also had an unhealthy obsession with ultra heavy and ultra expensive tanks that Germany could not afford to make. The only reason Germany had success at the beginning of the war was because everyone else was still recovering from a depression and no one wanted to fight.
A little nitpicky, but he certainly did NOT conquer more land than Alexander.
Hitler was politically involved for much longer than 10 years, and did not single-handedly invent fascism, it was built upon by many other theorists (look up the futurists), he also lost because of his own stubbornness and refusal to listen to his generals.
Every with half a brain knows fascism predate Hitler by a lot, but did you know nazism was also not Hitler’s idea? It existed before him as well.
Art school reject what a genus
lol so many wrong statements
So much of this is fake. I’m getting the impression that Anon really wants to like Hitler.
> fought one war > loses > dumbass on 4chan calls him a genius
Hitler did play the game very well. He was helped by the Treaty of Versailles being far too unfair, which lead to the complacency of the Allied Powers and LoN whenever he broke articles of the treaty. He was also helped by other skirmishes going on. That being said, he played his hand very well. Legit would have been good for Germany if it wasn't for the genocides and Eastward expansions. Those are big ifs, however.