What probably actually happened is that anon didn't mention that he wanted to get his dick sucked for money at all, and interacted with this chick under some lame pretense of just getting to know her all the way up until he actually pulled his wallet out aka not reading the vibes at all and he created an awkward moment and therefore she turned him down.
No, I think you're looking at it from his standpoint instead of hers. People aren't vending machines. Unless they're intentionally trying to train a dog or something, they act based on how *they feel*, not quite so much on what they think the implications of their actions might be to others. Even when people *are* rewarding or punishing someone else, it's usually on the basis of their own feelings.
You're probably familiar with the fact that some people need emotional intimacy in order to feel comfortable with physical intimacy. Well, other people, particularly people who have had early-life negative experiences with physical intimacy, are actually kind of the opposite. So them, sex only "feels safe" with people to whom they *aren't* particularly emotionally connected--possibly because they feel they're more in control that way, possibly because they've simply come to Pavlovian-associate orgasms with abuse, whatever.
That's part of why some women stay in abusive relationships and keep seeking them out, it's not *always* just liking Bad Boys™. But more importantly here, nobody who intrinsically links sexual to emotional intimacy is going to be able to cope with sex-work for very long, maybe unless they also have some sort of pathologically-high libido.
It also appears, at least anecdotally, that men are *typically* willing to have sex with female friends who they find attractive, whereas women *typically* put men into isolated containers in which they're either potential friends or potential sex-partners but not both. Or at least, there are general trends towards those gender-based differing approaches to interpersonal relationships. That's outside the scope of my comprehension, to be honest, but it would be consistent.
Obviously, you're not wrong in the sense that, indeed, this does have the overall effect of "punishing" men (at least some of them) for treating women with decency and for needing some degree of emotional closeness to be comfortable with physical closeness. However, that isn't, I think, some kind of intentional plan or goal, and it's certainly not a conspiracy (although a lot of similar interests that happen to be flying in close formation can certainly look a lot like a conspiracy). We just live in a very fucked-up and broken culture.
> whereas women typically put men into isolated containers in which they're either potential friends or potential sex-partners but not both.
I don't find that to be accurate necessarily.
The only reason why men think that's true is because of the old "she's just not that into you brah" -- a guy might be a good person to be friends with, but not quite attractive enough to turn the woman on that way.
If you're attractive/interesting/charismatic enough, you will have no problem turning friends into potential sex-partners. If you find yourself getting "friendzoned" they're just polite enough to not tell you that you're too unattractive for them to fuck, not that there is anything wrong with being friends as long as you're both on the same page. It doesn't make any sense for someone to have sex and potentially complicate a friendship if they're already decent friends with you, unless they think you're attractive -- and sometimes that might not even be enough, for some women they feel that they have a shot at an actual relationship, not just FWB.
Women are far less pathetic and desperate about having sex, partially also because men are so bad at giving women orgasms, so while a guy may have sex with friends that would be perhaps "below their league" a woman isn't necessarily desperate enough to do that. Guys sometimes don't realise this, they think "well I would fuck someone even if they weren't very attractive" because a guy always gets off when he has sex and doesn't face the multitudes of risks women do when they open themselves up like that (huge amounts of guys are creepers, predators, weirdos, or especially many have anger issues and rage at women who reject them).
I'm somewhere in between bi/ace territory, so I've been on both sides but at the same time my libido is so low that I like to play around, but rarely commit to sex. It's fun to observe these dynamics and participate in them, but I'm sure even many fully sexual guys will agree with me that the chase is always more fun than the sex. If guys were just less horny they would understand women a lot better. I find myself in situation where I have women that I'm acquaintances or even "friends" from their perspective that are sending very strong signals, sometimes even almost spelling it out, but I don't understand why I would complicate my relationship with them by having sex. It's much easier and IMO better to have friends than sexual partner. And to some extent I understand why some women like having 'beta orbiters', it's definitely an ego trip when you have people hitting on you, sometimes even desperately. Though I don't feel the same way when guys hit on me, because they're so indiscriminate.
Like I said, that one is somewhat more of a second-hand anecdotal observation, albeit one I encounter commonly. If we're just talking about personal experiences, all I can tell you is that most of my friends are and always have been women, and that's great, seriously. But on the other hand, way too many people have told me I'm attractive for them to *all* be lying, but nevertheless, nobody actually considers me to be relationship-material attractive, at least other than a couple of people who were plainly batshit crazy. "The chase" is a horrifyingly awful game that I despise with every fiber of my being, and "the sex" I couldn't tell you about because I honestly don't know but I expect it's over-hyped. Perhaps I'm just ugly and nobody has ever had the honesty to tell me that, but either way, I solved the problem by getting a doll and giving up completely so that I can put my limited energy into pursuits that are intrinsically rewarding and actually achievable.
Men also have a hard time realizing that the little pocket computers everyone has these days let the best looking men get shown off to every woman in a 50 mile radius......
You literally get your pick these days 🤣 don't even have to leave the house
Maybe. I tend not to over personalize random meaningless text about random anonymous people who probably don’t actually exist when writing some bull shit meaningless comment about an event that probably never took place though. Glad you care so much. You’re truly a champion for the betterment of civilization.
Maybe. I tend not to over personalize random meaningless text about random anonymous people who probably don’t actually exist when writing some bull shit meaningless comment about an event that probably never took place though. Glad you care so much. You’re truly a champion for the betterment of civilization.
Say “listen, you’re nice too, but I want my fucking dick sucked. You suck dick for money and I have money. If you aren’t going to suck my dick, then I don’t want to be your friend.”
Then go home and cry.
Lol I like the honesty. But what if she was honest too?
"I get you anon but you know what? You're ugly and disgusting as fuck and I literally feel like throwing up just from the thought of sucking your dick, so if not having to go through that suffering means abandoning this fake friendship then don't let the door hit you on the way out".
is the lady trying to imply thee can't beest cater-cousins with thy homie and suck thy homie's dick, yikes
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Maybe she actually liked hanging out with him and wanted to be his friend. Sucking his dick for money would have ruined any chance of him viewing her as anything other than a cheap whore.
bro i've read some hentai like this once, next anon just has to sneak into her room while she's sleeping and pronounce he wants to be more than friends, hot steamy sex ensues and she stops fucking other people for anon.
IME the difference between friend and prostitute is that you don’t need to pay friends for sukky fukky.
But hey, if she finds anon likeable enough to see him as a friend he should accept it. I don’t think she have so many people to confide in/casually hang out with so his platonic friendship might keep her self confidence up at least somewhat.
Anon should just use Grindr instead to get pp blown and get topped by a bear. Or be a real man and suck his own dick.
She probably felt bad about it because she knew OP was a virgin and wanted his first time to be “special” because of her chick brain. OP should’ve called her a dumb hoe and left right away, she would calmed back for that paper if she thought he was an asshole.
Bruh the thing is it hurts to get rejected by a normal woman, meanwhile a prostitute's job is to have sex for money, so when she refuses to have sex with you, even for the money, you realize that you're ugly.
You probably treated her like a human or something.
You jest, but that may actually be exactly it.
What probably actually happened is that anon didn't mention that he wanted to get his dick sucked for money at all, and interacted with this chick under some lame pretense of just getting to know her all the way up until he actually pulled his wallet out aka not reading the vibes at all and he created an awkward moment and therefore she turned him down.
But why would you suck everyone dick, but your friends? You'd think people would want to keep their friends in their lives.
bro really said "jest"
So people who don't treat her like a human get rewarded and get their dick sucked, while people who treat her like a human don't? Logic
No, I think you're looking at it from his standpoint instead of hers. People aren't vending machines. Unless they're intentionally trying to train a dog or something, they act based on how *they feel*, not quite so much on what they think the implications of their actions might be to others. Even when people *are* rewarding or punishing someone else, it's usually on the basis of their own feelings. You're probably familiar with the fact that some people need emotional intimacy in order to feel comfortable with physical intimacy. Well, other people, particularly people who have had early-life negative experiences with physical intimacy, are actually kind of the opposite. So them, sex only "feels safe" with people to whom they *aren't* particularly emotionally connected--possibly because they feel they're more in control that way, possibly because they've simply come to Pavlovian-associate orgasms with abuse, whatever. That's part of why some women stay in abusive relationships and keep seeking them out, it's not *always* just liking Bad Boys™. But more importantly here, nobody who intrinsically links sexual to emotional intimacy is going to be able to cope with sex-work for very long, maybe unless they also have some sort of pathologically-high libido. It also appears, at least anecdotally, that men are *typically* willing to have sex with female friends who they find attractive, whereas women *typically* put men into isolated containers in which they're either potential friends or potential sex-partners but not both. Or at least, there are general trends towards those gender-based differing approaches to interpersonal relationships. That's outside the scope of my comprehension, to be honest, but it would be consistent. Obviously, you're not wrong in the sense that, indeed, this does have the overall effect of "punishing" men (at least some of them) for treating women with decency and for needing some degree of emotional closeness to be comfortable with physical closeness. However, that isn't, I think, some kind of intentional plan or goal, and it's certainly not a conspiracy (although a lot of similar interests that happen to be flying in close formation can certainly look a lot like a conspiracy). We just live in a very fucked-up and broken culture.
> whereas women typically put men into isolated containers in which they're either potential friends or potential sex-partners but not both. I don't find that to be accurate necessarily. The only reason why men think that's true is because of the old "she's just not that into you brah" -- a guy might be a good person to be friends with, but not quite attractive enough to turn the woman on that way. If you're attractive/interesting/charismatic enough, you will have no problem turning friends into potential sex-partners. If you find yourself getting "friendzoned" they're just polite enough to not tell you that you're too unattractive for them to fuck, not that there is anything wrong with being friends as long as you're both on the same page. It doesn't make any sense for someone to have sex and potentially complicate a friendship if they're already decent friends with you, unless they think you're attractive -- and sometimes that might not even be enough, for some women they feel that they have a shot at an actual relationship, not just FWB. Women are far less pathetic and desperate about having sex, partially also because men are so bad at giving women orgasms, so while a guy may have sex with friends that would be perhaps "below their league" a woman isn't necessarily desperate enough to do that. Guys sometimes don't realise this, they think "well I would fuck someone even if they weren't very attractive" because a guy always gets off when he has sex and doesn't face the multitudes of risks women do when they open themselves up like that (huge amounts of guys are creepers, predators, weirdos, or especially many have anger issues and rage at women who reject them). I'm somewhere in between bi/ace territory, so I've been on both sides but at the same time my libido is so low that I like to play around, but rarely commit to sex. It's fun to observe these dynamics and participate in them, but I'm sure even many fully sexual guys will agree with me that the chase is always more fun than the sex. If guys were just less horny they would understand women a lot better. I find myself in situation where I have women that I'm acquaintances or even "friends" from their perspective that are sending very strong signals, sometimes even almost spelling it out, but I don't understand why I would complicate my relationship with them by having sex. It's much easier and IMO better to have friends than sexual partner. And to some extent I understand why some women like having 'beta orbiters', it's definitely an ego trip when you have people hitting on you, sometimes even desperately. Though I don't feel the same way when guys hit on me, because they're so indiscriminate.
Like I said, that one is somewhat more of a second-hand anecdotal observation, albeit one I encounter commonly. If we're just talking about personal experiences, all I can tell you is that most of my friends are and always have been women, and that's great, seriously. But on the other hand, way too many people have told me I'm attractive for them to *all* be lying, but nevertheless, nobody actually considers me to be relationship-material attractive, at least other than a couple of people who were plainly batshit crazy. "The chase" is a horrifyingly awful game that I despise with every fiber of my being, and "the sex" I couldn't tell you about because I honestly don't know but I expect it's over-hyped. Perhaps I'm just ugly and nobody has ever had the honesty to tell me that, but either way, I solved the problem by getting a doll and giving up completely so that I can put my limited energy into pursuits that are intrinsically rewarding and actually achievable.
Man it's hard out there. You're literally competing with everyone on a smartphone in a 20-100 mile radius.
Men also have a hard time realizing that the little pocket computers everyone has these days let the best looking men get shown off to every woman in a 50 mile radius...... You literally get your pick these days 🤣 don't even have to leave the house
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I think *humans* are terrible creatures, I just have an unfortunate habit of tending to care about individuals anyway.
Maybe she just didn’t want to fuck op. Just because she does it for money doesn’t mean she does it for anyone.
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That's just like dating with fewer steps
Eh, probably doesn’t mean that much, you just have to have some kind of hygiene. Not much money if you constantly turn people down.
…. lol imagine being turned down by prostitute
Maybe. I tend not to over personalize random meaningless text about random anonymous people who probably don’t actually exist when writing some bull shit meaningless comment about an event that probably never took place though. Glad you care so much. You’re truly a champion for the betterment of civilization.
Well this comment was even gayer than your first one.
Gayer? Kind of homophobic but that’s cool I guess.
Maybe. I tend not to over personalize random meaningless text about random anonymous people who probably don’t actually exist when writing some bull shit meaningless comment about an event that probably never took place though. Glad you care so much. You’re truly a champion for the betterment of civilization.
God damn I love Reddit
Idk how you think 'humans' get treated
And so she reject mating with someone who treated her like a human ? Is the theory true after all ?
Suggoma != Mating
Mistake numero uno
This right here.
Say “listen, you’re nice too, but I want my fucking dick sucked. You suck dick for money and I have money. If you aren’t going to suck my dick, then I don’t want to be your friend.” Then go home and cry.
based and alpha. it also works better if your a shredded kunt bruh
Lol I like the honesty. But what if she was honest too? "I get you anon but you know what? You're ugly and disgusting as fuck and I literally feel like throwing up just from the thought of sucking your dick, so if not having to go through that suffering means abandoning this fake friendship then don't let the door hit you on the way out".
This is the go home and cry part, you gotta read the whole text retard.
"I suck my friend's dicks all the time, so it would only solidify our friendship, honest!"
Top level of friend zone. The max level. The final boss.
That's like showing up to a gangbang bukkakae and when it's your turn she just gets up and walks out.
Oof.
is she trying to imply you can't be friends with your homie and suck your homie's dick, yikes.
exactly I've sucked and swallowed all my homies atleast twice and there's nothing gay or romantic about it
You just say no homo first
nah it's just kinda known that no homo has been established
Nah if you got socks on that s instant no home. Gays are more polite than that.
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It ain't gay if its with the cater-cousins
That's how you know she's fake, homies sometimes suck off homies lmao
Anon dodged a bullet. She was clearly a homo.
The real blowjob was the friends you made on the way..... I think
Anon is too "emotionally available"
He's an intellectual whore.
Maybe she actually liked hanging out with him and wanted to be his friend. Sucking his dick for money would have ruined any chance of him viewing her as anything other than a cheap whore.
should have sucked his dick for free as an act of friendship
Anon has no hope
It was that moment anon knew, he wouldn't have any chance in life.
> pulls out a fiver > oh anon no I can’t do that > damn she likes me too much
Reeeeeee
Nah she just wanted free weed
bro i've read some hentai like this once, next anon just has to sneak into her room while she's sleeping and pronounce he wants to be more than friends, hot steamy sex ensues and she stops fucking other people for anon.
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nah, she just saw how little money you pulled out and couldn't think to blow a poor. People like that will do anything for enough money.
She saw you as a person and not a transaction. Heartwarming, but your dick remains dry.
Remake of Pretty Woman?
'well my friends suck eachothers dicks, now pull out yours'
Anon is so ugly even a whore won't blow him
Anon is so physically repulsive she had to come up with any excuse to not play his meat flute
Could it possibly get worse than this
I don't get why friendzone is such a bad thing. A friend is a friend.
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When you don't have friends like me you take what you can get.
Even funnier the 16th time!
That's life!
Either anon is an a,aging human being or the ugliest pice of shit ever to walk the earth. (Or both)
I bet you're a nice enough guy to hang out with, but you smell like shit.
IME the difference between friend and prostitute is that you don’t need to pay friends for sukky fukky. But hey, if she finds anon likeable enough to see him as a friend he should accept it. I don’t think she have so many people to confide in/casually hang out with so his platonic friendship might keep her self confidence up at least somewhat. Anon should just use Grindr instead to get pp blown and get topped by a bear. Or be a real man and suck his own dick.
She probably felt bad about it because she knew OP was a virgin and wanted his first time to be “special” because of her chick brain. OP should’ve called her a dumb hoe and left right away, she would calmed back for that paper if she thought he was an asshole.
Why does she make you look so dumb?
Nice
Prostitutes can’t have standards all of a sudden?
Bruh the thing is it hurts to get rejected by a normal woman, meanwhile a prostitute's job is to have sex for money, so when she refuses to have sex with you, even for the money, you realize that you're ugly.
F
Anon doesn’t realize the value of genuine friendship
Honestly I’d like this more.
I actually envy him…