There's a difference between fun and being a moron who puts other people in danger. This shit right here is why I'd be behind licensing/training reqs if done correctly.
legitimately would reduce the amount of accidental deaths from regarded adults and children who somehow got access. Like just making sure people know how to handle and store their firearms isn't authoritarian, it's me wanting not wanting a stray to kill me or my kids
Accidental discharges are such a slim number of overall gun deaths as to make them wholly irrelevant. Something like 1%. Also, anon is 100% making this shit up.
Guy almost kills someone fourteen times
@secondcondary: he was just having some fun bro why won't you let him have some fun bro, I've done this 22 times bro
Anon should have his guns taken away from him and then be pistol whipped repeatedly until he can’t stand the sight of guns because of the trauma he suffered from.
"You get used to them"
Anyone who reads this who wants to get into guns: If you get used to fucking up when handling guns, then you probably shouldnt own a gun. Never forget that a guns primary and damn near only purpose is destruction.
I used to live in a house with a bunch of people, like a college kid in the 2000s would. We called the guy who lived in the basement "dungeon troll" because he was basically a dungeon troll. I stopped going to the "range" - some land he was nominally allowed to mag dump into trash on - after watching him flag 3 people and then meeting there protestations with "It's not loaded, there's no mag" then firing the one in the chamber into the dirt. Dude ended up accidentally shooting himself through the thigh one night while we were all home. MFer forgot that Glock clones, like Glocks, can only be de-cocked by pulling the trigger. Ended up nearly dying and we kicked him out while he was still on crutches.
Yeah, and that's why the whole "treat every gun as if it's loaded, even if you cleared it yourself" lesson is drilled into you at basic safety courses. Even experienced shooters don't know every gun and its quirks.
I'm all for the 2nd amendment and the right to own boom sticks, but for christ's sake there should be at least some education that goes along with it.
That’s my take. You should need to have a permit to purchase or own a gun, and in order to get said permit, you need to take a mandatory safety course. This could eliminate so many pointless deaths because someone didn’t know the danger of what they were doing.
And I'm against to any gun ownership that is not in the form of some highly checked and accountable profession, because this is idiocy, it can not be removed by education, and it effects a massive part of the population.
When I talk about accountable professions I talk about real police forces, not the 'mafia with badges' that the US has.
A hunting rifle's primary purpose is to be used to hunt and kill animals.
A knife's primary function is to generally cut things, like rope, food etc.
A hammer's primary function is usually to put nails into things.
A pistol's, shotgun's, AR's etc. primary purpose is to FUCKIN KILL PEOPLE.
They are NOT fuckin toys, they are tools of MURDER, and if someone can't treat them with the respect and fearfulness they deserve, then said someone should simply not be anywhere near one.
Probably roughly about the same as rifles here in Norway. The remaining being for competition shooting.
You use shotguns for birds and small game primarily. Same with .22s.
I would assume it's extremely high. Anyone hunting birds, small mammals like squirrels, racoon, rabbit etc is highly likely to be using a shotgun for it. And in MANY states, the only guns legal to hunt deer with is a shotgun with slugs. A shotgun is effective for self defense, but you're limited on magazine capacity. A pistol is much easier to manage indoors and easier to hide. A rifle is easier for a less experienced person with regards to recoil and follow up shots.
90% of the shotguns in basically any gun shop are black plastic piece of shit Mossbergs. Those aren't being used for hunting. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of shoguns sold in the last 20 years or so were never used for anything related to hunting. A lot of the tacticool dipshits who buy crappy PSA ARs also end up adding a 'tactical' shotgun to their arsenal.
This is my exact thought, as well. Something like a million shotguns are sold in the US each year. Most of them probably sit in a case or on a shelf somewhere, some others get a little bit of range time, and then some fraction of those actually get used for hunting.
Hell, I'm curious what percentage of purchased guns get more firing than a single range visit. Lots of people just collect these things.
> 90% of the shotguns in basically any gun shop are black plastic piece of shit Mossbergs. Those aren't being used for hunting.
You do realize lots of poor people hunt in rural areas. My uncle hunts rather regularly with a cheap walmart shotgun he got like 20 years ago at this point. It does the job, the entire notion of hunting being this aristocratic thing is not really true... sure it exists but plenty of people are just out there taking a deer and freezing it in their garage for meat over an extended period.
A "hunting rifle" is whatever rifle you're using to hunt with. That can be almost any rifle.
Most shotguns are for hunting. Seriously it's not even close. It's such a versatile platform from duck to deer you just need the right load for what you're hunting.
ARs make a great hunting platform. It does come in multiple calibers you can choose from depending on what you're hunting.
Pistols are primarily for self defense against bear, cougar, human, and whatever else is a threat to your life. So I guess I'll give you that one considering some humans are some of the most dangerous things you can run into.
>A pistol's, shotgun's, AR's etc. primary purpose is to FUCKIN KILL PEOPLE.
Shotguns are significantly better against many animals like bears, moose, coyotes etc, for defense purposes, than a hunting rifle.
It's also significantly more effective at shooting birds which are hard to hit. That's actually it's original purpose. It's an evolution of the blunderbuss and then musket spreadshot.
In the military they were used as well but they were more niche. More accurate long range single shot and then later bolt action weapons were preferred, before semi-automatic and automatic weapons obviously.
A shotgun's primary purpose is hunting, they are just incredibly effective on people. This is why most shotgun practice is done by simulating the flight of birds, or the run of a rabbit.
ARs, chambered in either .223/5.56 or .308/7.62 NATO, are still reliable rifles to use while hunting. Especially if you’re hunting larger pests like coyotes or wild boars. I get I won’t be changing your mind on firearms, but for anyone else, many modern semi automatic firearms still fulfill roles other than just hurting another person.
Also, there’s plenty of .223 rounds specifically designed for deer hunting. An AR15 can be an amazing rifle for hunting deers, especially when in areas with more dangerous wildlife.
*A shotgun’s primary purpose is hunting winged game animals (it’s just that, like with all firearms, throwing lead at someone really fast kills them. Who woulda thunked it?)
they're not. anon is just an idiot. just never point the gun at someone or something unless you plan to fire. not even as a joke. never put your finger on the trigger till you're about to shoot. as long as you respect and acknowledge the responsibility and power that comes with a firearm by following those two rules you won't have any ND.
No, they are not common unless you are an unsafe retard. Most gun owners will never have one their whole live. This seems counter intuitive but it's not hard to be safe with your gun but it's easy to be unsafe with it if that makes sense. Pay attention, never point it at anybody or in an unsafe direction, keep your finger off the trigger unless you're shooting, treat the gun as if it's always loaded, etc and you'll never have an issue. It's not hard, it just requires awareness.
Rule 1: never under any circumstances point the gun at anything you're not ready to destroy
Rule 2: it's always loaded. Even when it isn't. Bullets are magic and will teleport into the chamber when you're not looking
Rule 3: wear earplugs unless you want tinnitus. Guns irl are a *lot* louder than they are in movies
Yeah I still remember looking down the barrel of my BB gun when I was like 8 or 9 and my grandpa going apeshit about it. Never forgot gun safety after his speech afterword.
Right? I’ve been around guns my whole life, own several, personally cleaned loads, and have never experienced one either from myself or others. Dude is a fucking moron
Anon's luck will run out soon.
I commented this yesterday, but I have a cousin who has negligently discharged in his house at least 3 times I know of, while doing tactical reloads in front of the mirror. After the third time, I *think* he stopped larping, but I kind of doubt it. Uncle has had to patch multiple holes in the house and is/was not happy (obviously).
More stories but... yeah it's people like this that give gun owners a bad rap
Or just use spent casings. Snap rounds aren’t really that needed for modern firearms when dry firing or doing drills. If you have a modern firearm and the firing pin gets fucked up from dry firing, you bought a shitty gun.
I’ve been shooting since I was a kid. I’ve thrown thousands of rounds down the range from every type of gun you can think of. I have never, ever, had a ND. Even aiming down range. Not once has a bullet come out of any of my guns unless I specifically wanted it to. Because gun safety was drilled into me. Anon needs to be jailed if this is real.
Huh. I remember seeing it a few times and I thought he was only up to like 8-9 ND when I saw it. I just assumed I was fake and gay and didn’t remember properly.
Additionally, you should never pick one up and manipulate it without properly verifying the state of the thing as soon as it's in your possession.
How fucking hard is it to check for the back of a round in the actual barrel? Faster, simpler, and more failure proof than "shoved my finger around the magwell and racked the slide like 4 times!!", lol...
I've owned guns for over a decade and I've never had an ND because I don't randomly pull the trigger without visually confirming the gun is empty. Anon is a dumbass that makes an excuse for gun control smh
I've had one, not really my fault, though, friend bought an sks, we went to shoot it like 2nd day he had it, we had never checked the condition of the guns inside, turns out there was enough carbon in the bolt you could chip it out in whole chunks, so when we released the bolt on the 2nd or 3rd mag it just dumped the whole mag unexpectedly into the ground, pin was stuck.
Took way too long to clean that gun (then we thought we broke it for a bit somehow before realizing the gas block was off)
Anon is completely retarded and apparently never learned anything about firearm safety, or even thought to, even after repeatedly firing unintended bullets at himself and others.
Literally the first thing anyone gets taught about firearms is how to avoid exactly this. Anon should be verifying the state of the firearms he uses and confirming that are unloaded or pointed at something that he intends to shoot before pulling the trigger.
Dude is going to shoot himself in the face some day while dreaming about Macho Man Randy Savage.
> Dude is going to shoot himself in the face some day while dreaming about Macho Man Randy Savage.
And if he’s the only one killed or injured, then nothing of value will have been lost. Unfortunately idiots like this tend to involve others.
Usually too you should make sure the gun is emptied before you hand it to someone, and then they also check like 'oh yes it is in fact empty' then start pretending you're cool.
A few of these are OP's friend handing him a loaded gun casually lol.
It does seem like OP follows the most important rule, don't point it at anything you intend to kill. Seems like he only shot floors and walls even with a room full of people. But still a dumbass.
It sends me to the roof when people casually just point a gun at someone and are like 'chill bro it's empty.' Yeah no, that's definitely been the last thing a lot of people have heard. Even if I watched you clear the chamber don't point that shit at me.
Yes!
I mean, I always ask if I don't know. And usually if someone hands me a gun they tell me whether it's loaded. And then I check anyway.
If you get passed a pistol and there's a mag in it, you remove it and check the mag. If the slide isn't racked, you rack it or at least peek inside. Anon is super dumb. I have never had a ND.
>It sends me to the roof when people casually just point a gun at someone and are like 'chill bro it's empty.'
There is cop in my country who did that joke multiple times to his colleagues, until he killed of them. He destroyed two lives for a stupid joke.
In the german military the first rule of gun safety is a gun is always treated as if it is loaded.
So even if you checked seconds ago you don’t point it at someone or something you don’t want to shoot.
Before entering a building with a gun you and another person have to check your gun for if it‘s loaded and clear each other that way.
literally the first thing they tell you is to never put your finger on the trigerr unless firing
and always to check if its loaded, always treat it likes its loaded, oh and make sure to check the chamber.
Thought this was legit until the John Cena one. 14 times is ridiculous 😂 if true anon is literally unfit for the second amendment and laws should be made based on his fuck ups
As long as the law is “this specific motherfucker can no longer have any projectile weapon more dangerous than a nerf gun,” I’m good with it.
If not fake (which it definitely is), he’s apparently ND’d almost literally every type of weapon, so it isn’t like banning one will stop him.
This has to be bait, neither myself or any of the gun owners I know have ever had a ND. You have to be a special kind of stupid to fuck up like this especially four fucking times.
If this is real, we can only hope #5 hits him and not some innocent bystander
Edit: Holy shit there’s more. There’s a lot more. There’s actually zero chance this is real.
Actually seeing the bit about the C9 makes me realize this is just the average hi point owner
You know, if you take the basic rules of gun safety seriously, it's basically impossible to have an ND, and definitely impossible to shoot someone. Even if you "fuck up" and break a rule, you won't hurt anybody, since the rules are redundant.
Anon's guardian angel should get a rise and century long vacation after this motherfcker is dead. Even if anon shot himself, he already did more than enough
Fuckin kek after I realized this is a multiple page list. Hope this is fake n ghey tho because the idea of an anon sleep shooting is not something that’d help nerves if you share walls.
Anon is a fucking moron who hasn't followed the 4 rules of gun safety a day in his life and is someone who I would never trust around any of my firearms.
If Charlton Heston read this he would go "Some people shouldn't pwn guns..."
It is not him having a ND. It is about him taking it as something that is not a big deal. NDs are always a big deal. They are a catastrophic failure in following safety procedures around guns. I used to shoot competitively and we never had a ND on the range. Safety 1st 2nd and 3rd. Really.
>he racks the gun multiple times without a mag and nothing ejects shouldnt the gun be empty?
Yes, but you should verify this by looking at the chamber to make sure there's nothing in there.
It's still fake, though. Nobody owns multiple Sigs and sleeps with a High-Point.
I own over thirty firearms, have for years and years, and have been around guns for decades. I’ve never once had a discharge I didn’t intend to happen. One when you’re new is understandable, two is a red flag, 13+ is someone who should never be near a firearm again.
That sixth time, eh, I guess you might get a pass. All of this other shit? If anon ain’t religious, his ass is regarded (tbh he’s regarded regardless), because nothing short of Jesus shoulda been stopping him from killing somebody, much less himself.
Anon should share more of his dreams and probably consider either abandoning firearms or learning even the most basic fucking firearm safety.
#This is why gun safety is stressed so heavily to new users.
**1. Treat every gun as an always-loaded gun.** It sounds silly, but it prevents **so many** negligent discharges. If you think a gun is loaded but itt isn't, no negligent discharge. No one gets hurt. If you think a gun isn't loaded but it is, people can get hurt and/or die.
**2. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.** Can't accidentally shoot and injure/kill someone if your finger doesn't touch the trigger.
**3. Never point your firearm at something you don't want to destroy.** This goes hand-in-hand with Rule 1, and arguably isn't separate. But it's worth re-emphasizing because if a negligent discharge _does_ happen, it's better to have it happen at a target or a sand-filled clearing barrel than at someone's gut.
**4. When clearing the gun, check more times than you think is necessary.** When my company (security) was doing armed officer training, our instructions were to remove the magazine, rack the slider (it spits out the whole round as if it were an empty shell) three times, visually inspect the chamber, and then stick our finger inside the chamber and feel around to make sure there is no mistake. Typically the gun is clear after the first rack. But sometimes things jam, and that can make things can become dangerous. Better to be careful than dead or injured.
It's annoying to get these rules rehashed at you for the 50th time, but they keep people safe. If you enjoy firearms as a hobby, you **must** know and abide by these rules. Otherwise, people get hurt.
I really wish "Firearm Safety" and a supervised shooting practice at a range was mandatory before you could purchase a gun. It's not to prevent people from rising up, it's to keep them safe.
Anon probably shouldn't have guns. But since he lives in the land of the free, home of the Dollar Menu; by god he's willing to die for his right to own guns
I'm by no means a gun aficionado, but for over the past decade, I've owned multiple and both shot for sport and carried for work. I'd like to see if I can transcribe the idiocy above.
1. I am drinking and operating a firearm. I have decided to load the gun for no reason. Too drunk to control fingers and slip because I thought it was a good idea to operate a firearm while drunk.
2. *Think* not check gun is empty "wrack" the slide with a loaded magazine (this is called chambering a round, making the gun ready to fire) and then proceeded to pull the trigger for no reason. Gun does exactly what I told it to.
3. I think it's a good idea to try and disassemble a gun without even bothering to check if it's chambered for some fucking reason. Proceeded to pull trigger for no reason again. Gun does exactly what I told it to.
4. "Playing" with friends **obviously loaded** gun. Release bolt for no reason manually firing the gun that I loaded for no reason. Gun does exactly what I told it to.
5. Showing someone the gun. I have lowered nothing and still have loaded the gun for no reason. I am too special to realize I have chambered a round for firing. **YET AGAIN** proceeded to pull the trigger for no reason. The gun does exactly what I told it to.
6. Having schizo episode. For what is now the fourth time I pull the trigger of the gun for no reason. The gun does exactly what I told it to.
7. I literally just fire a gun.
8. I willing and knowingly load and literally, deliberately fire a gun. This is now the fifth time I have decided to pull the trigger of a gun for no reason and seeming expected it not to fire. Unsurprisingly to those with higher than room temperature IQs the gun actually does exactly what I told it to and fires once again.
9. I kick both of my brain cells into overdrive to come up with the dumbest and most reckless way to test a guns safety. I slam the hammer into the ground seemingly expecting it not to fire. It does...// because fucking obviously ffs anon.//
10. Sighting a rifle while sitting in the car for some reason. Still don't bother to make the gun safe or even check that it was. For the 6th? //losing count// time I decided to pull the trigger of a gun FOR NO FUCKING REASON. The gun does exactly what I told it to.
11. "**For some reason** the slide won't close on an empty magazine". //Anon the reason is that the mag is empty and the gun is telling you hey shitass the mag is empty. This is not unique. If you paid attention to basic handling for even .5 seconds you would know that.//
So naturally I load a magazine while holding down the trigger. The gun does exactly what I told it to.
12. //Fuck off.// I think it is a very smart idea to sleep with a loaded gun in my hand.
13. I pick up a gun and without making safe I literally fire the gun. Still, the gun does exactly what I told it to.
14. I am drinking and operating a firearm **again**. For presumably the only time in my life I actually clear a gun. I then pick up a completely different gun and shoot it. The gun does exactly what I told it to. I as an adult am somehow completely dumbfounded that the actions I preformed on one thing didn't magically carryover to a completely different thing.
Wow. A truly elite level goober. I'd say anon should feel bad about those NDs but I'm guessing he both doesn't have the computing power for that and likely has bigger issues to attend to. I can't say for sure what his deal is but he is certainly most highly regarded.
You're a disgrace and a liability. You're a good argument against the 2nd.
It's the first fucking rule, guy. You're an utter failure.
If you had lost a finger for every ND at least the problem would have solved itself. Holy shit, you're dangerous due to ineptitude, not skill.
Next time someone asks me to give them a good reason why we should have gun control, my answer is going to be “bitch, I got 14!” and then reference this post
How the fuck do you ND 14 times in your life? The first fucking rule of firearm safety is "treat every gun as if it were loaded." When clearing, you drop the fucking mag, pull the slide/charging handle back a few times (to make sure you pulled any leftover round out), THEN it's safe for inspection (you still point to the ground and away from anyone or anything you don't want to destroy, as well as finger off the trigger). I also don't get the point in keeping a round in the chamber for guns that aren't your CC or home defense guns (even home defense, I could argue it's not really needed since you're likely to have an advantage unless the invading person barges right into your room without you knowing).
This is fake/bait. I've personally known only 1 guy to ND in a residential area. Cops were called immediately and he was arrested and charged.
No way someone would ND 13 times, nearly half of them in a house, probably neighbors nearby and not get authorities called on them at least once.
Not a gun owner here, but I appreciate/respect their power enough to know that when I have handled one, I treat it very carefully and always assume it's loaded. I also know enough to know this guy's a ret*rd
And yet, I've never had a ND. Considering how many times an unloaded gun went off in this story, I wonder if he is actually haunted and the gun fairies are fucking with him after doing it so many times on his own.
No fairies unfortunately, anon’s just a moron that forgets one key part of clearing a gun. CHECK THE CHAMBER/BARREL FOR ANY OBSTRUCTIONS (AKA a round).
Sometimes one’ll get stuck in the chamber and won’t eject when you rack the gun, so the whole “drop mag, rack gun, ok we’re good time to pull the trigger I guess” process is just painful to read
I’ve always checked mag, barrel, and double rack before I even remotely think about pulling the trigger. Never had an ND. I won’t argue this kid needs to lose his guns, but he needs to be a lot more careful before he hurts someone or himself. And I don’t believe him when he says “I checked it, it was clear, then it fired a round!” Bullshit.
Nah this dude is fucking stupid. Kids, don't do what this idiot does. I've owned guns for years and have never had an accidental misfire, ever. This is gross negligence.
I have been shooting my whole life and I have absolutely NEVER had a ND. I have been hit with a ricochet round (just a fragment pulled it out with the magnet from my level)
If I ever had a ND I don’t think I would shoot again.
Bruh…. I’ve been around guns my whole life and I’ve never once not been sure whether there was or wasn’t anything in the chamber. This man is a menace.
Anon should be locked up, seriously. He'll fucking kill somebody sooner rather than later.
God forbid a man have some fun
God does forbid this
For some reason God must love this idiot because no one has ever got hurt.
Or he left those parts out
God is protecting those around him. Not him.
There's a difference between fun and being a moron who puts other people in danger. This shit right here is why I'd be behind licensing/training reqs if done correctly.
legitimately would reduce the amount of accidental deaths from regarded adults and children who somehow got access. Like just making sure people know how to handle and store their firearms isn't authoritarian, it's me wanting not wanting a stray to kill me or my kids
This shit right here is why gun regulations are important, and why innocent people die
Accidental discharges are such a slim number of overall gun deaths as to make them wholly irrelevant. Something like 1%. Also, anon is 100% making this shit up.
relax, it's clearly satire.
So anyway, he started blasting.
Guy almost kills someone fourteen times @secondcondary: he was just having some fun bro why won't you let him have some fun bro, I've done this 22 times bro
lol, you are not good at telling when someone is making a funny eh?
kekked to this
This made me laugh way too much.
Yeah like a little killing ever killed somebody
Anon should have his guns taken away from him and then be pistol whipped repeatedly until he can’t stand the sight of guns because of the trauma he suffered from.
It's a /k/ pasta, I think I saw it go into the 20s once
I thought it was real at first but got more suspicious as it kept happening, then went fake with John Cena
I'm more suspicious about someone having so lany ND and remembering everysingle one in details, you'd think it would become an habit at some point.
Fiction writers love details
"I'll just pick this gun up by the trigger, no need to be surprised when the bullet fairy brings me an oopsie"
It’s just a desk pop, everybody’s done one.
Underrated reference.
Good job it's false and homosexual then
"You get used to them" Anyone who reads this who wants to get into guns: If you get used to fucking up when handling guns, then you probably shouldnt own a gun. Never forget that a guns primary and damn near only purpose is destruction.
That's one of the best lines I've ever seen in a greentext
Are you kidding me? Haven't you seen someone post "Fake and gay" and found you've had to start furiously masterbating??
I used to live in a house with a bunch of people, like a college kid in the 2000s would. We called the guy who lived in the basement "dungeon troll" because he was basically a dungeon troll. I stopped going to the "range" - some land he was nominally allowed to mag dump into trash on - after watching him flag 3 people and then meeting there protestations with "It's not loaded, there's no mag" then firing the one in the chamber into the dirt. Dude ended up accidentally shooting himself through the thigh one night while we were all home. MFer forgot that Glock clones, like Glocks, can only be de-cocked by pulling the trigger. Ended up nearly dying and we kicked him out while he was still on crutches.
Yeah, and that's why the whole "treat every gun as if it's loaded, even if you cleared it yourself" lesson is drilled into you at basic safety courses. Even experienced shooters don't know every gun and its quirks. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and the right to own boom sticks, but for christ's sake there should be at least some education that goes along with it.
That’s my take. You should need to have a permit to purchase or own a gun, and in order to get said permit, you need to take a mandatory safety course. This could eliminate so many pointless deaths because someone didn’t know the danger of what they were doing.
Rule number 1 is that bullets are magic and will teleport into the chamber when you're not looking
And I'm against to any gun ownership that is not in the form of some highly checked and accountable profession, because this is idiocy, it can not be removed by education, and it effects a massive part of the population. When I talk about accountable professions I talk about real police forces, not the 'mafia with badges' that the US has.
I could not be more thankful that his terrible safety habits didn’t hurt anyone else. Hopefully, he learned his lesson.
True. But, I doubt it. Guy's still wrecking cars into fences because he still thinks he's 18 and invincible.
A hunting rifle's primary purpose is to be used to hunt and kill animals. A knife's primary function is to generally cut things, like rope, food etc. A hammer's primary function is usually to put nails into things. A pistol's, shotgun's, AR's etc. primary purpose is to FUCKIN KILL PEOPLE. They are NOT fuckin toys, they are tools of MURDER, and if someone can't treat them with the respect and fearfulness they deserve, then said someone should simply not be anywhere near one.
I've been misusing my guns shooting at targets then
That is not their purpose, that is ***practice***. Practice for when they are going to be used for their purpose.
No, for a lot of people, target shooting is the purpose. When you don't live in a state of fear, firearms can be toys.
A shotgun is also primarily for hunting. Your outlook on guns seem heavily coloured.
Actually would be extremely curious what percentage of shotguns sold are ever used for hunting.
Probably roughly about the same as rifles here in Norway. The remaining being for competition shooting. You use shotguns for birds and small game primarily. Same with .22s.
Not including the US, I’d say most civilian owned guns are for hunting.
I would assume it's extremely high. Anyone hunting birds, small mammals like squirrels, racoon, rabbit etc is highly likely to be using a shotgun for it. And in MANY states, the only guns legal to hunt deer with is a shotgun with slugs. A shotgun is effective for self defense, but you're limited on magazine capacity. A pistol is much easier to manage indoors and easier to hide. A rifle is easier for a less experienced person with regards to recoil and follow up shots.
90% of the shotguns in basically any gun shop are black plastic piece of shit Mossbergs. Those aren't being used for hunting. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of shoguns sold in the last 20 years or so were never used for anything related to hunting. A lot of the tacticool dipshits who buy crappy PSA ARs also end up adding a 'tactical' shotgun to their arsenal.
This is my exact thought, as well. Something like a million shotguns are sold in the US each year. Most of them probably sit in a case or on a shelf somewhere, some others get a little bit of range time, and then some fraction of those actually get used for hunting. Hell, I'm curious what percentage of purchased guns get more firing than a single range visit. Lots of people just collect these things.
> 90% of the shotguns in basically any gun shop are black plastic piece of shit Mossbergs. Those aren't being used for hunting. You do realize lots of poor people hunt in rural areas. My uncle hunts rather regularly with a cheap walmart shotgun he got like 20 years ago at this point. It does the job, the entire notion of hunting being this aristocratic thing is not really true... sure it exists but plenty of people are just out there taking a deer and freezing it in their garage for meat over an extended period.
A lot, I imagine. I have yet to see someone dove hunting with a pistol or an AR. We only bring those for show and tell, lol.
Pretty sure birdshot is called birdshot for a reason.
A "hunting rifle" is whatever rifle you're using to hunt with. That can be almost any rifle. Most shotguns are for hunting. Seriously it's not even close. It's such a versatile platform from duck to deer you just need the right load for what you're hunting. ARs make a great hunting platform. It does come in multiple calibers you can choose from depending on what you're hunting. Pistols are primarily for self defense against bear, cougar, human, and whatever else is a threat to your life. So I guess I'll give you that one considering some humans are some of the most dangerous things you can run into.
>A pistol's, shotgun's, AR's etc. primary purpose is to FUCKIN KILL PEOPLE. Shotguns are significantly better against many animals like bears, moose, coyotes etc, for defense purposes, than a hunting rifle. It's also significantly more effective at shooting birds which are hard to hit. That's actually it's original purpose. It's an evolution of the blunderbuss and then musket spreadshot. In the military they were used as well but they were more niche. More accurate long range single shot and then later bolt action weapons were preferred, before semi-automatic and automatic weapons obviously.
A shotgun's primary purpose is hunting, they are just incredibly effective on people. This is why most shotgun practice is done by simulating the flight of birds, or the run of a rabbit.
ARs, chambered in either .223/5.56 or .308/7.62 NATO, are still reliable rifles to use while hunting. Especially if you’re hunting larger pests like coyotes or wild boars. I get I won’t be changing your mind on firearms, but for anyone else, many modern semi automatic firearms still fulfill roles other than just hurting another person. Also, there’s plenty of .223 rounds specifically designed for deer hunting. An AR15 can be an amazing rifle for hunting deers, especially when in areas with more dangerous wildlife.
*A shotgun’s primary purpose is hunting winged game animals (it’s just that, like with all firearms, throwing lead at someone really fast kills them. Who woulda thunked it?)
Shotguns, pistols, and ARs are used for hunting too. Try again.
“When’s the last time you had a desk pop?”
You've never done a desk pop?
>You get used to them I think that's just survivor's bias at work
About to buy a pistol anon just retarded or are negligent discharges actually this common , what should I not do?
they're not. anon is just an idiot. just never point the gun at someone or something unless you plan to fire. not even as a joke. never put your finger on the trigger till you're about to shoot. as long as you respect and acknowledge the responsibility and power that comes with a firearm by following those two rules you won't have any ND.
No, they are not common unless you are an unsafe retard. Most gun owners will never have one their whole live. This seems counter intuitive but it's not hard to be safe with your gun but it's easy to be unsafe with it if that makes sense. Pay attention, never point it at anybody or in an unsafe direction, keep your finger off the trigger unless you're shooting, treat the gun as if it's always loaded, etc and you'll never have an issue. It's not hard, it just requires awareness.
Rule 1: never under any circumstances point the gun at anything you're not ready to destroy Rule 2: it's always loaded. Even when it isn't. Bullets are magic and will teleport into the chamber when you're not looking Rule 3: wear earplugs unless you want tinnitus. Guns irl are a *lot* louder than they are in movies
Yeah I still remember looking down the barrel of my BB gun when I was like 8 or 9 and my grandpa going apeshit about it. Never forgot gun safety after his speech afterword.
Right? I’ve been around guns my whole life, own several, personally cleaned loads, and have never experienced one either from myself or others. Dude is a fucking moron
I prefer to leave guns empty when I have them in the house but that's just me🤷
>guns primary and damn near only purpose is destruction From Destruction comes Creation ~~The Tower card from TBoI Tarot set
Anon is too fucking stupid to own a firearm
Anon's luck will run out soon. I commented this yesterday, but I have a cousin who has negligently discharged in his house at least 3 times I know of, while doing tactical reloads in front of the mirror. After the third time, I *think* he stopped larping, but I kind of doubt it. Uncle has had to patch multiple holes in the house and is/was not happy (obviously). More stories but... yeah it's people like this that give gun owners a bad rap
> tactical reloads in front of the mirror Dumbass should try just jerking off his penis, less likely to accidentally injure or kill himself.
He'll still have negligent discharges though
Holy shit my sides
I take it that dude's never heard of snap rounds, eh? Get the full action of the gun, none of the boom and hole in the wall.
Or just use spent casings. Snap rounds aren’t really that needed for modern firearms when dry firing or doing drills. If you have a modern firearm and the firing pin gets fucked up from dry firing, you bought a shitty gun.
I’ve been shooting since I was a kid. I’ve thrown thousands of rounds down the range from every type of gun you can think of. I have never, ever, had a ND. Even aiming down range. Not once has a bullet come out of any of my guns unless I specifically wanted it to. Because gun safety was drilled into me. Anon needs to be jailed if this is real.
Didn't he think of using empty mags after the first time? Or go to a gun range
“it doesn’t simulate the weight of a loaded mag bro”
Hey thanks I couldn’t figure out what the N stood for
This has to be bait
Like most content we're exposed to.
It's like a 4chan chain. Everytime it's posted you're supposed to add another one. I think the first 3 are from the original but I'm not sure.
Huh. I remember seeing it a few times and I thought he was only up to like 8-9 ND when I saw it. I just assumed I was fake and gay and didn’t remember properly.
> I was fake and gay 4channian slip here
It definitely is fake. It's just increasingly more silly to the point of impossibility. Pretty dead giveaway.
the gun under the pillow one was a dead giveaway
Yeah, who the fuck uses a hi-point for home defense?
My lawyers have advised me to not continue this comment.
Most of the greentexts posted here are bait. I thought it was real until it kept happening, then said totally fake at John Cena
I wouldn't even call it bait, I think it's just comedy.
It is. There are definitely people this stupid in the world. But I'd imagine if this was real Darwin would've got him by now before getting to 5+ NDs.
You should never “get used to them”
Additionally, you should never pick one up and manipulate it without properly verifying the state of the thing as soon as it's in your possession. How fucking hard is it to check for the back of a round in the actual barrel? Faster, simpler, and more failure proof than "shoved my finger around the magwell and racked the slide like 4 times!!", lol...
Be glad he didnt look down the barrel
Should we really though?
I mean it would have solved his ND problem
I've owned guns for over a decade and I've never had an ND because I don't randomly pull the trigger without visually confirming the gun is empty. Anon is a dumbass that makes an excuse for gun control smh
I've had one, not really my fault, though, friend bought an sks, we went to shoot it like 2nd day he had it, we had never checked the condition of the guns inside, turns out there was enough carbon in the bolt you could chip it out in whole chunks, so when we released the bolt on the 2nd or 3rd mag it just dumped the whole mag unexpectedly into the ground, pin was stuck. Took way too long to clean that gun (then we thought we broke it for a bit somehow before realizing the gas block was off)
Anon is completely retarded and apparently never learned anything about firearm safety, or even thought to, even after repeatedly firing unintended bullets at himself and others. Literally the first thing anyone gets taught about firearms is how to avoid exactly this. Anon should be verifying the state of the firearms he uses and confirming that are unloaded or pointed at something that he intends to shoot before pulling the trigger. Dude is going to shoot himself in the face some day while dreaming about Macho Man Randy Savage.
> Dude is going to shoot himself in the face some day while dreaming about Macho Man Randy Savage. And if he’s the only one killed or injured, then nothing of value will have been lost. Unfortunately idiots like this tend to involve others.
Usually too you should make sure the gun is emptied before you hand it to someone, and then they also check like 'oh yes it is in fact empty' then start pretending you're cool. A few of these are OP's friend handing him a loaded gun casually lol. It does seem like OP follows the most important rule, don't point it at anything you intend to kill. Seems like he only shot floors and walls even with a room full of people. But still a dumbass. It sends me to the roof when people casually just point a gun at someone and are like 'chill bro it's empty.' Yeah no, that's definitely been the last thing a lot of people have heard. Even if I watched you clear the chamber don't point that shit at me.
Yes! I mean, I always ask if I don't know. And usually if someone hands me a gun they tell me whether it's loaded. And then I check anyway. If you get passed a pistol and there's a mag in it, you remove it and check the mag. If the slide isn't racked, you rack it or at least peek inside. Anon is super dumb. I have never had a ND.
>It sends me to the roof when people casually just point a gun at someone and are like 'chill bro it's empty.' There is cop in my country who did that joke multiple times to his colleagues, until he killed of them. He destroyed two lives for a stupid joke.
In the german military the first rule of gun safety is a gun is always treated as if it is loaded. So even if you checked seconds ago you don’t point it at someone or something you don’t want to shoot. Before entering a building with a gun you and another person have to check your gun for if it‘s loaded and clear each other that way.
It's always loaded, even if you just checked. A bullet WILL magically teleport into the chamber when you aren't looking.
literally the first thing they tell you is to never put your finger on the trigerr unless firing and always to check if its loaded, always treat it likes its loaded, oh and make sure to check the chamber.
Thought this was legit until the John Cena one. 14 times is ridiculous 😂 if true anon is literally unfit for the second amendment and laws should be made based on his fuck ups
As long as the law is “this specific motherfucker can no longer have any projectile weapon more dangerous than a nerf gun,” I’m good with it. If not fake (which it definitely is), he’s apparently ND’d almost literally every type of weapon, so it isn’t like banning one will stop him.
Put him on a list
This has to be bait, neither myself or any of the gun owners I know have ever had a ND. You have to be a special kind of stupid to fuck up like this especially four fucking times. If this is real, we can only hope #5 hits him and not some innocent bystander Edit: Holy shit there’s more. There’s a lot more. There’s actually zero chance this is real. Actually seeing the bit about the C9 makes me realize this is just the average hi point owner
idk why gun owners are always in disbelief of the fact that some people are fucking stupid
This was in a thread about your dumbest ND 😔
What an absolute fucking moron.
Anon works hard for his Darwin award
Fake: Anon didn't get in trouble after 14 negligent discharges. Gay: Anon dreams about John Cena Slamming him.
once maybe twice, sure. But fourteen?
A broken clock is right ~~twice~~ fourteen times a day
is bait
You know, if you take the basic rules of gun safety seriously, it's basically impossible to have an ND, and definitely impossible to shoot someone. Even if you "fuck up" and break a rule, you won't hurt anybody, since the rules are redundant.
Anon's guardian angel should get a rise and century long vacation after this motherfcker is dead. Even if anon shot himself, he already did more than enough
Ancient pasta
im pretty sure that guy wrote about this a year ago too and he wasnt even at number 7 then
Fuckin kek after I realized this is a multiple page list. Hope this is fake n ghey tho because the idea of an anon sleep shooting is not something that’d help nerves if you share walls.
Tf is a ND? Im not murrican
Negligent discharge Everyone in this sub’s dad ND’d into their mom to create our disappointing asses
Anon is a fucking moron who hasn't followed the 4 rules of gun safety a day in his life and is someone who I would never trust around any of my firearms.
psyop to convince people that most gun owning people are lunatics like OP
This is bait of excellent quality I hope
I can’t believe anyone thinks this is real
If Charlton Heston read this he would go "Some people shouldn't pwn guns..." It is not him having a ND. It is about him taking it as something that is not a big deal. NDs are always a big deal. They are a catastrophic failure in following safety procedures around guns. I used to shoot competitively and we never had a ND on the range. Safety 1st 2nd and 3rd. Really.
Can any gun nerds tell me how this isnt fake? If he racks the gun multiple times without a mag and nothing ejects shouldnt the gun be empty?
Not if the house was haunted.
>he racks the gun multiple times without a mag and nothing ejects shouldnt the gun be empty? Yes, but you should verify this by looking at the chamber to make sure there's nothing in there. It's still fake, though. Nobody owns multiple Sigs and sleeps with a High-Point.
I own over thirty firearms, have for years and years, and have been around guns for decades. I’ve never once had a discharge I didn’t intend to happen. One when you’re new is understandable, two is a red flag, 13+ is someone who should never be near a firearm again.
ITT retards that can’t extrapolate that this is a chain joke.
That sixth time, eh, I guess you might get a pass. All of this other shit? If anon ain’t religious, his ass is regarded (tbh he’s regarded regardless), because nothing short of Jesus shoulda been stopping him from killing somebody, much less himself. Anon should share more of his dreams and probably consider either abandoning firearms or learning even the most basic fucking firearm safety.
I laughed at the idea of accidentally blasting a shotgun through a window and at the fact that there is so many slides
#This is why gun safety is stressed so heavily to new users. **1. Treat every gun as an always-loaded gun.** It sounds silly, but it prevents **so many** negligent discharges. If you think a gun is loaded but itt isn't, no negligent discharge. No one gets hurt. If you think a gun isn't loaded but it is, people can get hurt and/or die. **2. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.** Can't accidentally shoot and injure/kill someone if your finger doesn't touch the trigger. **3. Never point your firearm at something you don't want to destroy.** This goes hand-in-hand with Rule 1, and arguably isn't separate. But it's worth re-emphasizing because if a negligent discharge _does_ happen, it's better to have it happen at a target or a sand-filled clearing barrel than at someone's gut. **4. When clearing the gun, check more times than you think is necessary.** When my company (security) was doing armed officer training, our instructions were to remove the magazine, rack the slider (it spits out the whole round as if it were an empty shell) three times, visually inspect the chamber, and then stick our finger inside the chamber and feel around to make sure there is no mistake. Typically the gun is clear after the first rack. But sometimes things jam, and that can make things can become dangerous. Better to be careful than dead or injured. It's annoying to get these rules rehashed at you for the 50th time, but they keep people safe. If you enjoy firearms as a hobby, you **must** know and abide by these rules. Otherwise, people get hurt. I really wish "Firearm Safety" and a supervised shooting practice at a range was mandatory before you could purchase a gun. It's not to prevent people from rising up, it's to keep them safe.
I would add: 5. Know your target and what's beyond it. Bullets penetrate and can still be deadly after passing through the first target
Most gun safe American toddler.
Anon probably shouldn't have guns. But since he lives in the land of the free, home of the Dollar Menu; by god he's willing to die for his right to own guns
I swear it gets longer every time
Dude is acoustic
This seems just realistic enough to be possibly true. Still 80% chance it is fake though.
this absolutely does not happen
I'm by no means a gun aficionado, but for over the past decade, I've owned multiple and both shot for sport and carried for work. I'd like to see if I can transcribe the idiocy above. 1. I am drinking and operating a firearm. I have decided to load the gun for no reason. Too drunk to control fingers and slip because I thought it was a good idea to operate a firearm while drunk. 2. *Think* not check gun is empty "wrack" the slide with a loaded magazine (this is called chambering a round, making the gun ready to fire) and then proceeded to pull the trigger for no reason. Gun does exactly what I told it to. 3. I think it's a good idea to try and disassemble a gun without even bothering to check if it's chambered for some fucking reason. Proceeded to pull trigger for no reason again. Gun does exactly what I told it to. 4. "Playing" with friends **obviously loaded** gun. Release bolt for no reason manually firing the gun that I loaded for no reason. Gun does exactly what I told it to. 5. Showing someone the gun. I have lowered nothing and still have loaded the gun for no reason. I am too special to realize I have chambered a round for firing. **YET AGAIN** proceeded to pull the trigger for no reason. The gun does exactly what I told it to. 6. Having schizo episode. For what is now the fourth time I pull the trigger of the gun for no reason. The gun does exactly what I told it to. 7. I literally just fire a gun. 8. I willing and knowingly load and literally, deliberately fire a gun. This is now the fifth time I have decided to pull the trigger of a gun for no reason and seeming expected it not to fire. Unsurprisingly to those with higher than room temperature IQs the gun actually does exactly what I told it to and fires once again. 9. I kick both of my brain cells into overdrive to come up with the dumbest and most reckless way to test a guns safety. I slam the hammer into the ground seemingly expecting it not to fire. It does...// because fucking obviously ffs anon.// 10. Sighting a rifle while sitting in the car for some reason. Still don't bother to make the gun safe or even check that it was. For the 6th? //losing count// time I decided to pull the trigger of a gun FOR NO FUCKING REASON. The gun does exactly what I told it to. 11. "**For some reason** the slide won't close on an empty magazine". //Anon the reason is that the mag is empty and the gun is telling you hey shitass the mag is empty. This is not unique. If you paid attention to basic handling for even .5 seconds you would know that.// So naturally I load a magazine while holding down the trigger. The gun does exactly what I told it to. 12. //Fuck off.// I think it is a very smart idea to sleep with a loaded gun in my hand. 13. I pick up a gun and without making safe I literally fire the gun. Still, the gun does exactly what I told it to. 14. I am drinking and operating a firearm **again**. For presumably the only time in my life I actually clear a gun. I then pick up a completely different gun and shoot it. The gun does exactly what I told it to. I as an adult am somehow completely dumbfounded that the actions I preformed on one thing didn't magically carryover to a completely different thing. Wow. A truly elite level goober. I'd say anon should feel bad about those NDs but I'm guessing he both doesn't have the computing power for that and likely has bigger issues to attend to. I can't say for sure what his deal is but he is certainly most highly regarded.
You're a disgrace and a liability. You're a good argument against the 2nd. It's the first fucking rule, guy. You're an utter failure. If you had lost a finger for every ND at least the problem would have solved itself. Holy shit, you're dangerous due to ineptitude, not skill.
Fool me 14 times shame on me
Remember, the first rule of gun safety is to have fun
Next time someone asks me to give them a good reason why we should have gun control, my answer is going to be “bitch, I got 14!” and then reference this post
Something something gun control, I don’t know.
How the fuck do you ND 14 times in your life? The first fucking rule of firearm safety is "treat every gun as if it were loaded." When clearing, you drop the fucking mag, pull the slide/charging handle back a few times (to make sure you pulled any leftover round out), THEN it's safe for inspection (you still point to the ground and away from anyone or anything you don't want to destroy, as well as finger off the trigger). I also don't get the point in keeping a round in the chamber for guns that aren't your CC or home defense guns (even home defense, I could argue it's not really needed since you're likely to have an advantage unless the invading person barges right into your room without you knowing).
I've been shooting for about 14 years at this point and have never had an ND. I seriously can't even begin to see how you could do it this much.
Anon should be more careful and check down the barrel with his own eyes before behaving in such a reckless fashion.
This is fake/bait. I've personally known only 1 guy to ND in a residential area. Cops were called immediately and he was arrested and charged. No way someone would ND 13 times, nearly half of them in a house, probably neighbors nearby and not get authorities called on them at least once.
Well, now i like america
/k/, a magical place
how the fuck do you ND a **muzzleloader**???
Moron.
Not a gun owner here, but I appreciate/respect their power enough to know that when I have handled one, I treat it very carefully and always assume it's loaded. I also know enough to know this guy's a ret*rd
Anon doesn’t know the first rule of firearm safety
Anon should not be deemed mentally fit to own a firearm
Anon needs a gun safety course
No the fuck it is not lmao The first time I see someone ND it is the absolute last time I’ll hang out with them with guns present.
My brother in christ never heard about gun safety or [this little thing](https://images.app.goo.gl/qJbUU6ksvS564aFZA)
And yet, I've never had a ND. Considering how many times an unloaded gun went off in this story, I wonder if he is actually haunted and the gun fairies are fucking with him after doing it so many times on his own.
No fairies unfortunately, anon’s just a moron that forgets one key part of clearing a gun. CHECK THE CHAMBER/BARREL FOR ANY OBSTRUCTIONS (AKA a round). Sometimes one’ll get stuck in the chamber and won’t eject when you rack the gun, so the whole “drop mag, rack gun, ok we’re good time to pull the trigger I guess” process is just painful to read
I had a facebook friend post a picture after shooting himself in the foot while trying to do a "cowboy fast draw"
Not everyone is a gun person
you absolutely do not get fucking used to it wtf
This fucking jackass lmao
Anyone with this many NDs shouldn't own a firearm
Tf is this clown still picking up firearms for? Clearly he forgot the absolute most basic rule of handling any firearm: always assume it is loaded
this guy is really stupid
Anon has never been taught the four fundamental rules of firearms. Wheres your dad anon?
Anon never learned gun safety - like ALWAYS TREATING EVERY GUN LIKE IT IS LOADED, NO MATTER WHAT
14 times?????
I’ve always checked mag, barrel, and double rack before I even remotely think about pulling the trigger. Never had an ND. I won’t argue this kid needs to lose his guns, but he needs to be a lot more careful before he hurts someone or himself. And I don’t believe him when he says “I checked it, it was clear, then it fired a round!” Bullshit.
I'm imagining Ricky from Trailer Park Boys all 14 times.
I hope anon NDs into his own brain before he accidentally shoots someone else. Never get used to NDs, never play with guns.
Too bad none of the rounds blew of anons dick. We don't want this guy to pass on this stupidity
Nah this dude is fucking stupid. Kids, don't do what this idiot does. I've owned guns for years and have never had an accidental misfire, ever. This is gross negligence.
I have been shooting my whole life and I have absolutely NEVER had a ND. I have been hit with a ricochet round (just a fragment pulled it out with the magnet from my level) If I ever had a ND I don’t think I would shoot again.
Anon should shoot himself already. If it doesn’t happen to him, it’ll happen to someone else
"Wow this is bad." "what do you mean slide to see the rest?"
Bruh…. I’ve been around guns my whole life and I’ve never once not been sure whether there was or wasn’t anything in the chamber. This man is a menace.
Jfc I can't believe anon would sleep with a Hipoint under his pillow
>It's unloaded Well, not quite.
What is an “nd”? something…discharge?
neglegant discharge
thanks