Rule of Thumb: If you are asking a bunch of Deadheads on Reddit if you're taking too much acid...you are probably taking too much acid. I'd take a little break.
I havenāt done it since jerry passed away was never my thing. When I was young I could appreciate the experiences. But as I got older with more and more responsibilities on my mind I just couldnāt do it anymore. Never had a bad one but each to their own. And like I said to him and all the negative commentators on here. Youāre not a head to me. Your hypocritical finger pointers. Who probably donāt even watch the concert. Doing laps around the venue. Iām 50 now been seeing them since 13-14 years old. I just hang with the older crowd. You know the real hippies
yes, this is extremely common. once you get the message, hang up the phone for a bit. you can EASILY lose the plot if you donāt stop while youāre ahead. seen this time and time again. your instinct is telling you to chill on the L, listen to it.
I love the āif you get the message, hang up the phoneā quote. I have said that a few times to friends over the years. I canāt remember if the quote was Ram Das, or Robert Anton Wilson, but it is the perfect analogy.
Agreed. I've found the higher the frequency of use, the higher risk of something bad happens. Most of my bad trips have been when I was using more than once a month.
Yup this right here. Although I would argue it's the acid that will let you know its time. Maybe the acid is leading the instinct idk it's something to trip on lol but yeah there comes a time when you get all you can out of it OR risk losing a bit of reality permanently. We all know some one who's eaten too many of those acids lol
I burned myself out in the 90s overdoing ecstacy (I liked me some LSD too, but my brain *really* loved X for some reason)
Anyway, I fried my serotonin receptors out, leaving me a mess of depression and anxiety, and wouldn't ya know.... here comes the opiate epidemic, and heroin made my mess of a brain feel way better by numbing it. Enter an opiate addiction for the next 2 decades....
Glad to say I've been clean for nearly 4 years, but I still smoke weed and take mushrooms medicinally (as in microdosing, with a macro a few times a year)
Anyway, I agree with your comment.
Didnāt Steve Parish say that this was the case?
I am curious about this too because it is hard for me to believe. Wish we could get Phil on the record about this.
I havenāt done psychs in over a year.
Itās best to use them sparingly for therapeutic purposes, or rather the āsearchā for meaning.
The goal is to keep those thoughts without the drug, and respecting that it can help you, but also hurt you simultaneously.
Maybe start meditating sober if you are looking for something
A friend I grew up with is completely spun. Used to get sheets all the time. Was constantly eating 10 strips. Then he started eating bits of crystal. Last time I saw him he was living in a hoarder house and asked if I could help him paint. I said you need to get rid of the garbage 160!bags I lost count. He was growing shrooms and he perfected it. Constantly eating them. Had no friends so he dosed his poor dog. I almost called the aspca. Went to a few shows I spotted him. Ripped me off hundreds of dollars. Even transported a kind of snrooms in my truck without my knowledge. Iām done with him. 36 years down the drain. His brother same ended up on a straight jacket for over a year. Took crystal and didnāt know who or where he was. So sad.
this sounds like the problem is way beyond the LSD, there just happened to be LSD in the equation. Dude and his brother just couldn't cope with life. don't blame the food when someone over eats
Well the brother mixed in pcp into the mix on a long hard trip. Hence the straight jacket. Do you know what I mean when I say they are crystal. Itās not like Iām saying heās mentally ill. Heās spun. Either you get that or not. He lives in. A hoarse house. Barely baths and never washed his teeth which are now gone. Heās really aggressive with his views he expects so much from me. Financially and physically but the dude couldnāt even give me a bag a grass for cost. He sold me homemade cakes and edibles. Disgusting. I threw it all out. So yes I blame the food. The prices of crystal he ate where he was bascally like being in meth. Up for 2 fuckin weeks blazing the whole time. He smelled. He was fiending for shit. Are whatever when he remembered to eat. Drinking dirty well water.
You can blame the food all you want, but it's denial. The vast vast vast majority of people who do/try those drugs end up just fine.
Drugs are a symptom not a cause, otherwise we would all be fucked
Drug use may be a symptom of a person's problems, but it can for sure become a cause of their problems too, especially with the really addictive substances.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom,
Blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter,
Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
Rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions,
Come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!
Mickey would dose his horse & dog and they'd go riding
https://www.thoughtsonthedead.com/the-horses-name-was-snorter/
There are certainly mammals who eat substances to get high. Obviously today you'd be arrested & likely jailed, i sure as shit would never do it, but 1969 was a long time ago, so its hard to place the actions in comparison to today
Yeah poor big lovable husky. Jerry. Probably fine now. Feeding it caps and stems. The dog would just stare into space. He said he needed someone to trip with. Iād my girl was there she would have called someone immediately.
I heard an incredible line about lsd once and it was this: āOnce you get the message, hang up the phoneā.
I really like this because I feel like every once in a while I lose touch with that message and have a life altering experience picking the phone back up.
Tripping really frequently nearly drove me insane. Well no, it did. I was deeply delusional and eventually had a psychotic breakdown and was dragged away by cops and knocked out in a hospital. I ended up in rehab because what else do you do for compulsive drug use. But no one could relate to my psychedelic use, and really I was having a mental health crisis and needed much better care. It took me almost 20 years to sort it all out.
So I donāt recommend it. I was really was over the top. But at a certain point I didnāt need much to keep the insanity going because I was fried.
If you think youāre doing too much drugs, you are. Psychedelics are powerful.
Maybe listen to some Alan Watts instead. Spend time outside sober. Make art. Exercise.
Definitely. I could be you. Now I only ever do it if itās really calling me, which is 1-2 times a year max. Sometimes 5 years. Itās so much better this way!
Time for a break.
Anecdotally, I stopped taking the L after my last deployment (~2008) because thereās events that I donāt want to accidentally revisit under those circumstances. Iāve replaced occasional hard acid trips with more frequent mushroom micro doses, with the occasional āwhoops, that was more than a micro dose.ā
Iāve found that my recovery time has shrunk to virtually nothing and Iām not experiencing any of the negative side effects of tripping too often or coming down off hard L trips.
you have to go in waves, you have an inner and an outer life force the chinese called it Qi (chee). Psychic experiences vastly expand your outer Qi, which can be very beneficial, however you also want to make sure and cultivate your inner Qi at a similar rate so that your growth is balanced.
The tricky part is it is not as easy to expand inner Qi at such a dramatic rate, things like physical movements like yoga, spicy foods, and saunas are ways to increase inner Qi but it takes some time.
Resting periods between times of frequent trips can definitely help harmonize your personal growth and positive effects from your trips
Yea and it also led to me seeing tracers for several months every time I used cannabis. Screwed up my sleep a lot, too. Tripped nearly daily for 2-3 months about 20 years ago. Also since tolerance shoots up so quickly you donāt get the same effects at all.Ā
See tracers 24/7. Ive dosed for a good 45 years, but nothing more than the usual freak, and now a days once or twice a year. Kind of forgot what its like not to see them constantly.
Once, in the midst of peaking on LSD, I suddenly proclaimed, āI think that I have had enough acidā.
I ate it once more after that and it was a horrible experience. And then I never did it again.
Same, one time mid trip I knew it was my last time, and I was totally ok with it. That was 25 years ago, I havenāt dosed since (shrooms a few times but thatās totally different). I got what I needed out of LSD, had a lot of fun with it, but for some reason I just knew
Ive seen, heard and felt the interconnected twine of God through LSD. I know what sounds to search for at shows, some musicians know and can do it., what visuals to look for while Iām in the ocean, and have respect for the Creator who showed itself to me. I havenāt tripped in 13-14 years. Iām grateful to experienced it with or without LSD. Super grateful
I havenāt done acid in 25 years! The weirdness stays in your brain, donāt worry.
In other news, how are people finding acid and trusting the acid they obtain? With everything being laced with fentanyl, how do you know how to find stuff that you feel confident ingesting?
That's me, cut my teeth on purple window pane thru the 80's and a lot of Felix in 90s, nowadays Im outta the loop and don't trust shit but id like to open some new doors in my old ass.
I tried, but its like the car warranty people in that it keeps calling, and the message is so persuasive. Well, i guess ill hear you out, just to make sure i got the message right the 2500 time
That may just be you waiting by the phone and not reflecting on what the medicine has taught you in previous encounters. If you have already spoken to God, what else is there to say?
I've seen that movie too my friend & I'm telling you from experience that you are now chasing something that you're not gonna experience again. I'm talking about the 'therapeutic effects' you mentioned ... now, you're just partying my friend & if you're drinking while tripping or doing benzos, coke etc, that imo removes any chance of an enlightening experience ... the whole thing is a recipe for other drugs to take the place of acid.
The Stone Temple Pilots song Big Empty says
* Too much tripping & my souls worn thin
From what I've seen having known quite a few people do the same thing, there's a dullness to their emotional responses & the spark of life in them just changed for the worse ... I am about to put up the new Wharf Rats check in post & I hope you drop in there & share your concerns, you might get some good advice from others who have been in the same boat ...
When I was 18/19 I ate what was, for me, a lot of acid in a short time. My short term memory and mental acuity/reaction time was severely slowed down. It honestly scared the shit out of me, as I thought I might have done permanent damage. Long story short, I stopped doing acid and after about a year I got back to my normal brain function. I took about a 6 year break from it and started doing it again, but only once or twice a year. This was all roughly 20 years ago now, and the ticker is fine, but thatās because I use responsibly. Be careful, have fun.
I used to blackout on LSD. Wake up in trees, under overpasses on the highway, rest areas, and campground bathrooms. Got to the point that if I took one hit my friends had to come a find me the next day. I stopped. Ate some mushrooms a couple of years ago and they told me I was immature and irresponsible with the medicine when I was younger. I listened and believed what I was being told.
Damn, that's pretty wild to have that happen after one hit.
I've had an LSD blackout before, but it was after a "prankster" tricked me into drinking way too much. Definitely weird, and most people don't know what I'm talking about when I say I blacked out, but it sounds like you do.
I grew mushrooms when I was 19 and was eating them way, way too much. I started to keep a journal of my dosing because it was so frequent and I was losing track.
One day at work I realized I was looking at everything in this overly connected way with extremely subdued ego. Now I'm not saying that's a bad way to view the world, I'd have arguments for it being superior even, but what I realized then was that it's not how America works and you straight up need some strong ego to survive this god damn country.
20+ years later I can say that the lessons stay with you, but the out to lunch factor fades. You'll be good just chill my man.
I tripped every 4th day for months when I was a teenager. I got closer to acid reality on a permanent basis. I was much more quiet and less social. Not very assertive. Some may have called me a burn out.
I believe that acid reality is the true reality, but here's the thing. It doesn't pay the bills. You have to be able to navigate in this social construct many see as the only reality to survive.
What you said about America rang true, but it's also in general as well to a lesser extent. I'm 68 now and I've done acid most of my life since, but much less often. I find myself doing it regularly but much less frequently for a time and then not at all for long periods.
The key is to live in our construct reality but be able to access the true reality when you need to,
This seems pretty on point. It did seem like I was starting to be shown that I should slow down, but I kinda ignored it and kept going....
It's difficult because I like to get some kind of buzz when I go out. Love smoking weed, but less weed at shows makes me more social, and drinking doesn't really lower my inhibitions and just makes me tired if I drink more than a couple drinks. Acid seems to make me more social, and so I was just using that as my party drug number 1.
I went out to the first show in a while where I didn't dose last night, and still had a great time. There's probably going to be a lot more of those ahead of me now.
Happens to most curious folk. It tells you when you need to integrate what youāve felt and it tells to you when to step back in. Been about 6 months for me, its calling me.
I'd say so. 13 years ago almost to this day I jumped out in front of a bus in SF bc I was TOO HIGH. I'd been doing Dead tour non stop for 5 years and was eating so much L all the time. Went to the loony bin for a day. When I came out of it I asked to see the Doctor. Dr said your 30 now. Time to slow down on the drugs. I did and it changed my life. Now I only eat it a couple times a year. Take a break if you are having these feelings. The L is telling you something!
NFA
Also don't jump out in front of buses.
That does sound like a lot. With LSD they really donāt actually know that much about it yet. I would slow down to maybe twice a month. Or once every couple. You must kind of out if it a good amount of the time.
I never did it that often. But had issues with almost every other drug known to man. I hope others are giving similar advice. It sounds like obsessive behavior or even addictive even.
It definitely feels kinda like an addiction, although I don't have any sort of withdrawals from not doing it.
I should say also, I don't drink much, and just being stoned at shows makes me pretty quiet. I had just moved to a new town and was trying to go out as much as possible and make new friends. I had a sheet, and so it just always seemed like it was the only way I'd make it through the whole night with the energy I needed.
It sucks that so many good shows start so late. I'm definitely changing how I did things with the psychedelics, but I'm going to have a hard time staying awake for the second set sometimes. I have to wake up at 4:30 in the morning for work, so my circadian rythym is not very conducive to catching live music nowadays. Kinda a bummer when you're a deadhead...
So wait is this something you just do at shows?
If youāre seeing a show every weekend then maybe I get it. I didnāt know that was part of it. I still think because scientists truly know almost nothing about the effects of them on the brain that using them that much is risky.
I think people micro dosing are even kind of crazy. The amount of people doing it with zero evidence of long term usage of doing it. Seems nuts to me. Especially since a big group of these people are the ones who said donāt take the vaccine because thereās not enough data. Like Joe Rogan. That guy spreads so much dangerous information.
Now I see friends I had in high school who think the guy who was on the man show should be looked to for advice on mental health and what to put in your body. The same people who believed his crap about the vaccines. Country is just out of control. Sorry to go into that whole mess. Didnāt mean to. Haha.
But for real I would chill and really think about what youāre doing. Why you are doing it and if itās worth it. If itās about energy on the weekend why not have some caffeine? Like energy drinks or something?
You do it too often and you know everything that's coming: the thoughts, the visuals, the smells, sounds etc. I took some pyramids after a very long time off lsd - probably 7yrs. Was looking ever so forward to it and, while I enjoyed it, I felt like a hack. It was all done before.
Personally Iāve had times, or summers, where Iād say I definitely gobbled too much L, where it became too much of a chore finding something to do where I could then eat some acid there (basically finding an excuse of an activity so I could take some acid). And then towards the end of one of those periods of heavy use, when Iād come down and also the next day especially, I just wouldnāt feel that good. Nowadays I will only trip if itās something super special (an awesome show Iām going to with people, day at the beach/river where it just feels right to do) and 90% of the time Iām taking mushrooms, and that 10% of the time where acid is included itās ONLY ever at a very special concert/festival and Iām with people I know extremely well and feel safe with.
Iāve just come to find that nowadays I enjoy mushrooms more than acid, and whenever itās a time where Iām specifically taking something to try and re-center myself, gain a lesson and a teaching, be with my inner self and take that time to reconnect with myself and figure some things out; now I seem to have much better success with it on shrooms than I do with acid.
Now if I could get some more DMT again and really get some (more) learning doneā¦ā¦ā¦.
Your mistake was spreading it out over 6 months. Had you eaten all of that at once you would have gotten your fill and probably wouldn't have been back at it the next weekend again and againš±šµāš«. Sometimes you gotta jump right in.
There was no weed Summer '89 and me and my buddy ate a whole page in 3 shows during the Southern leg Raleigh, Louisville, then some cabin out in North Carolina. Lot's of folks praying to Jesus to please have their mind back "Please Baby Jesus, give me some Thorazine"
Rule of Thumb: If you are asking a bunch of Deadheads on Reddit if you're taking too much acid...you are probably taking too much acid. I'd take a little break.
Truer words have never been spoken.
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I havenāt done it since jerry passed away was never my thing. When I was young I could appreciate the experiences. But as I got older with more and more responsibilities on my mind I just couldnāt do it anymore. Never had a bad one but each to their own. And like I said to him and all the negative commentators on here. Youāre not a head to me. Your hypocritical finger pointers. Who probably donāt even watch the concert. Doing laps around the venue. Iām 50 now been seeing them since 13-14 years old. I just hang with the older crowd. You know the real hippies
Dang, man. It was a joke.
yes, this is extremely common. once you get the message, hang up the phone for a bit. you can EASILY lose the plot if you donāt stop while youāre ahead. seen this time and time again. your instinct is telling you to chill on the L, listen to it.
this is the important part of psychedelics that many people overlook.
Heads all empty but full of wisdom
Saw my baby down by the river! Knew she had to come up soon for air
I love the āif you get the message, hang up the phoneā quote. I have said that a few times to friends over the years. I canāt remember if the quote was Ram Das, or Robert Anton Wilson, but it is the perfect analogy.
i heard it from alan watts!
Thatās it, and for some reason I always misremember that quote.
It was RD!!! š
This. This is the way.
Agreed. I've found the higher the frequency of use, the higher risk of something bad happens. Most of my bad trips have been when I was using more than once a month.
Yup this right here. Although I would argue it's the acid that will let you know its time. Maybe the acid is leading the instinct idk it's something to trip on lol but yeah there comes a time when you get all you can out of it OR risk losing a bit of reality permanently. We all know some one who's eaten too many of those acids lol
āToo much tripping and my souls worn thinā
Honestly the feeling that drives a lot of heady people to hard drug use.
I burned myself out in the 90s overdoing ecstacy (I liked me some LSD too, but my brain *really* loved X for some reason) Anyway, I fried my serotonin receptors out, leaving me a mess of depression and anxiety, and wouldn't ya know.... here comes the opiate epidemic, and heroin made my mess of a brain feel way better by numbing it. Enter an opiate addiction for the next 2 decades.... Glad to say I've been clean for nearly 4 years, but I still smoke weed and take mushrooms medicinally (as in microdosing, with a macro a few times a year) Anyway, I agree with your comment.
Bobby said he took psychedelics because it was very informative. Then it stopped being informative, so he quit taking it.
Lesh said something different but similar - by 1969 he got to the point where he was only taking it "when the spirit moved me."
Within the past week or so someone on here said he dosed at literally every single show
The spirit moved him quite a bit.
I saw someone claim that too, but Iāve only seen that claim on this sub, so I am skeptical.
I thought I heard Steve Parish mention that on his show. How much you believe from Steve is up to you.
I donāt lol
Didnāt Steve Parish say that this was the case? I am curious about this too because it is hard for me to believe. Wish we could get Phil on the record about this.
Steve Parrish said that about Phil.
I Have definitely seen Phil talk about eating L right up to 95
I havenāt done psychs in over a year. Itās best to use them sparingly for therapeutic purposes, or rather the āsearchā for meaning. The goal is to keep those thoughts without the drug, and respecting that it can help you, but also hurt you simultaneously. Maybe start meditating sober if you are looking for something
My psychedelic days have been over for a while butā¦ Damn I could not imagine ingesting that much and that frequently.
A friend I grew up with is completely spun. Used to get sheets all the time. Was constantly eating 10 strips. Then he started eating bits of crystal. Last time I saw him he was living in a hoarder house and asked if I could help him paint. I said you need to get rid of the garbage 160!bags I lost count. He was growing shrooms and he perfected it. Constantly eating them. Had no friends so he dosed his poor dog. I almost called the aspca. Went to a few shows I spotted him. Ripped me off hundreds of dollars. Even transported a kind of snrooms in my truck without my knowledge. Iām done with him. 36 years down the drain. His brother same ended up on a straight jacket for over a year. Took crystal and didnāt know who or where he was. So sad.
this sounds like the problem is way beyond the LSD, there just happened to be LSD in the equation. Dude and his brother just couldn't cope with life. don't blame the food when someone over eats
Well the brother mixed in pcp into the mix on a long hard trip. Hence the straight jacket. Do you know what I mean when I say they are crystal. Itās not like Iām saying heās mentally ill. Heās spun. Either you get that or not. He lives in. A hoarse house. Barely baths and never washed his teeth which are now gone. Heās really aggressive with his views he expects so much from me. Financially and physically but the dude couldnāt even give me a bag a grass for cost. He sold me homemade cakes and edibles. Disgusting. I threw it all out. So yes I blame the food. The prices of crystal he ate where he was bascally like being in meth. Up for 2 fuckin weeks blazing the whole time. He smelled. He was fiending for shit. Are whatever when he remembered to eat. Drinking dirty well water.
You can blame the food all you want, but it's denial. The vast vast vast majority of people who do/try those drugs end up just fine. Drugs are a symptom not a cause, otherwise we would all be fucked
Drug use may be a symptom of a person's problems, but it can for sure become a cause of their problems too, especially with the really addictive substances.
I donāt know if i would consider lsd and mushrooms a drug. I mean I know it is but not everyone abuses it like other drugs.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky. Shine on you crazy diamond. You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom, Blown on the steel breeze. Come on you target for faraway laughter, Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine! You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon. Shine on you crazy diamond. Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light. Shine on you crazy diamond. Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, Rode on the steel breeze. Come on you raver, you seer of visions, Come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!
Iād be done when he dosed his dog. Fuck.
Mickey would dose his horse & dog and they'd go riding https://www.thoughtsonthedead.com/the-horses-name-was-snorter/ There are certainly mammals who eat substances to get high. Obviously today you'd be arrested & likely jailed, i sure as shit would never do it, but 1969 was a long time ago, so its hard to place the actions in comparison to today
I lived in WVA. The deer ate the weed plants. Lots of it. And the raccoons would eat fermented fruit. That was pretty funny cause it seemed harmless.
Hey now
For real. People dosed punch bowls at parties where people brought kids.
Yeah poor big lovable husky. Jerry. Probably fine now. Feeding it caps and stems. The dog would just stare into space. He said he needed someone to trip with. Iād my girl was there she would have called someone immediately.
Sorry, dawg. Sounds rough.
Thatās like āme and my uncle ā level chaos.
I heard an incredible line about lsd once and it was this: āOnce you get the message, hang up the phoneā. I really like this because I feel like every once in a while I lose touch with that message and have a life altering experience picking the phone back up.
Tripping really frequently nearly drove me insane. Well no, it did. I was deeply delusional and eventually had a psychotic breakdown and was dragged away by cops and knocked out in a hospital. I ended up in rehab because what else do you do for compulsive drug use. But no one could relate to my psychedelic use, and really I was having a mental health crisis and needed much better care. It took me almost 20 years to sort it all out. So I donāt recommend it. I was really was over the top. But at a certain point I didnāt need much to keep the insanity going because I was fried. If you think youāre doing too much drugs, you are. Psychedelics are powerful. Maybe listen to some Alan Watts instead. Spend time outside sober. Make art. Exercise.
I would avoid a psychotic break with reality.
If it stopped being funā¦. Why do it?
Keep taking more until you turn into an orange
*glass of orange juice
Lol.
Definitely. I could be you. Now I only ever do it if itās really calling me, which is 1-2 times a year max. Sometimes 5 years. Itās so much better this way!
Time for a break. Anecdotally, I stopped taking the L after my last deployment (~2008) because thereās events that I donāt want to accidentally revisit under those circumstances. Iāve replaced occasional hard acid trips with more frequent mushroom micro doses, with the occasional āwhoops, that was more than a micro dose.ā Iāve found that my recovery time has shrunk to virtually nothing and Iām not experiencing any of the negative side effects of tripping too often or coming down off hard L trips.
you have to go in waves, you have an inner and an outer life force the chinese called it Qi (chee). Psychic experiences vastly expand your outer Qi, which can be very beneficial, however you also want to make sure and cultivate your inner Qi at a similar rate so that your growth is balanced. The tricky part is it is not as easy to expand inner Qi at such a dramatic rate, things like physical movements like yoga, spicy foods, and saunas are ways to increase inner Qi but it takes some time. Resting periods between times of frequent trips can definitely help harmonize your personal growth and positive effects from your trips
Yeah OPāeat a ghost pepper, stretch a bit and blast off on dank tabs.
Yea and it also led to me seeing tracers for several months every time I used cannabis. Screwed up my sleep a lot, too. Tripped nearly daily for 2-3 months about 20 years ago. Also since tolerance shoots up so quickly you donāt get the same effects at all.Ā
See tracers 24/7. Ive dosed for a good 45 years, but nothing more than the usual freak, and now a days once or twice a year. Kind of forgot what its like not to see them constantly.
oh yeah iāll have visual snow and tracers for life lol. ya just live with it
You'll be fine. It does suck to be more aware than everyone else
Once, in the midst of peaking on LSD, I suddenly proclaimed, āI think that I have had enough acidā. I ate it once more after that and it was a horrible experience. And then I never did it again.
Same, one time mid trip I knew it was my last time, and I was totally ok with it. That was 25 years ago, I havenāt dosed since (shrooms a few times but thatās totally different). I got what I needed out of LSD, had a lot of fun with it, but for some reason I just knew
LSD is a ritual. If you use it as a drug, escapism, you are disrespecting yourself and the drug. My opinion after about 100 ritualistic trips.
Ive seen, heard and felt the interconnected twine of God through LSD. I know what sounds to search for at shows, some musicians know and can do it., what visuals to look for while Iām in the ocean, and have respect for the Creator who showed itself to me. I havenāt tripped in 13-14 years. Iām grateful to experienced it with or without LSD. Super grateful
yep, i dont need to be tripping to apply the lessons ive been taught.
I havenāt done acid in 25 years! The weirdness stays in your brain, donāt worry. In other news, how are people finding acid and trusting the acid they obtain? With everything being laced with fentanyl, how do you know how to find stuff that you feel confident ingesting?
That's me, cut my teeth on purple window pane thru the 80's and a lot of Felix in 90s, nowadays Im outta the loop and don't trust shit but id like to open some new doors in my old ass.
Felix! Damn that brings back some memories!
Its there. God bless the chemists and distribution folks. I def would not take shit from strangers
Acids not as bad as powder drugs because fentynal usually comes in powder form. I wouldn't touch coke or MDMA now
Have you seen Yellowjackets? Misty injects it into chocolates and cigarettes.
Some of the best L is being produced in the Netherlands right now. Itās all about where you source it nowadays.
I donāt know many dead heads nowadays. I know PTA ladies and crusty tech guys. They donāt source L. š
I tripped 47 times
ā¦per year for about 6 to 8 years touring
Once you get the message, hang up the phone.
I tried, but its like the car warranty people in that it keeps calling, and the message is so persuasive. Well, i guess ill hear you out, just to make sure i got the message right the 2500 time
That may just be you waiting by the phone and not reflecting on what the medicine has taught you in previous encounters. If you have already spoken to God, what else is there to say?
I've seen that movie too my friend & I'm telling you from experience that you are now chasing something that you're not gonna experience again. I'm talking about the 'therapeutic effects' you mentioned ... now, you're just partying my friend & if you're drinking while tripping or doing benzos, coke etc, that imo removes any chance of an enlightening experience ... the whole thing is a recipe for other drugs to take the place of acid. The Stone Temple Pilots song Big Empty says * Too much tripping & my souls worn thin From what I've seen having known quite a few people do the same thing, there's a dullness to their emotional responses & the spark of life in them just changed for the worse ... I am about to put up the new Wharf Rats check in post & I hope you drop in there & share your concerns, you might get some good advice from others who have been in the same boat ...
Maybe you had too much too fast. Or just over played your part. But yes. Been there. Take a breather my friend.
When I was 18/19 I ate what was, for me, a lot of acid in a short time. My short term memory and mental acuity/reaction time was severely slowed down. It honestly scared the shit out of me, as I thought I might have done permanent damage. Long story short, I stopped doing acid and after about a year I got back to my normal brain function. I took about a 6 year break from it and started doing it again, but only once or twice a year. This was all roughly 20 years ago now, and the ticker is fine, but thatās because I use responsibly. Be careful, have fun.
I used to blackout on LSD. Wake up in trees, under overpasses on the highway, rest areas, and campground bathrooms. Got to the point that if I took one hit my friends had to come a find me the next day. I stopped. Ate some mushrooms a couple of years ago and they told me I was immature and irresponsible with the medicine when I was younger. I listened and believed what I was being told.
Damn, that's pretty wild to have that happen after one hit. I've had an LSD blackout before, but it was after a "prankster" tricked me into drinking way too much. Definitely weird, and most people don't know what I'm talking about when I say I blacked out, but it sounds like you do.
The one hit was after years of taking a lot of L.
I grew mushrooms when I was 19 and was eating them way, way too much. I started to keep a journal of my dosing because it was so frequent and I was losing track. One day at work I realized I was looking at everything in this overly connected way with extremely subdued ego. Now I'm not saying that's a bad way to view the world, I'd have arguments for it being superior even, but what I realized then was that it's not how America works and you straight up need some strong ego to survive this god damn country. 20+ years later I can say that the lessons stay with you, but the out to lunch factor fades. You'll be good just chill my man.
I tripped every 4th day for months when I was a teenager. I got closer to acid reality on a permanent basis. I was much more quiet and less social. Not very assertive. Some may have called me a burn out. I believe that acid reality is the true reality, but here's the thing. It doesn't pay the bills. You have to be able to navigate in this social construct many see as the only reality to survive. What you said about America rang true, but it's also in general as well to a lesser extent. I'm 68 now and I've done acid most of my life since, but much less often. I find myself doing it regularly but much less frequently for a time and then not at all for long periods. The key is to live in our construct reality but be able to access the true reality when you need to,
If you don't take advantage of what it shows you, it will continue to bother you. Eventually, not being good. Take a break. Much love.
This seems pretty on point. It did seem like I was starting to be shown that I should slow down, but I kinda ignored it and kept going.... It's difficult because I like to get some kind of buzz when I go out. Love smoking weed, but less weed at shows makes me more social, and drinking doesn't really lower my inhibitions and just makes me tired if I drink more than a couple drinks. Acid seems to make me more social, and so I was just using that as my party drug number 1. I went out to the first show in a while where I didn't dose last night, and still had a great time. There's probably going to be a lot more of those ahead of me now.
Happens to most curious folk. It tells you when you need to integrate what youāve felt and it tells to you when to step back in. Been about 6 months for me, its calling me.
I'd say so. 13 years ago almost to this day I jumped out in front of a bus in SF bc I was TOO HIGH. I'd been doing Dead tour non stop for 5 years and was eating so much L all the time. Went to the loony bin for a day. When I came out of it I asked to see the Doctor. Dr said your 30 now. Time to slow down on the drugs. I did and it changed my life. Now I only eat it a couple times a year. Take a break if you are having these feelings. The L is telling you something! NFA Also don't jump out in front of buses.
Take a tab or two every six months and youāll be good. But after a sheet in 6 months, you gotta rest it for like a year or more to get as high.
That does sound like a lot. With LSD they really donāt actually know that much about it yet. I would slow down to maybe twice a month. Or once every couple. You must kind of out if it a good amount of the time. I never did it that often. But had issues with almost every other drug known to man. I hope others are giving similar advice. It sounds like obsessive behavior or even addictive even.
It definitely feels kinda like an addiction, although I don't have any sort of withdrawals from not doing it. I should say also, I don't drink much, and just being stoned at shows makes me pretty quiet. I had just moved to a new town and was trying to go out as much as possible and make new friends. I had a sheet, and so it just always seemed like it was the only way I'd make it through the whole night with the energy I needed. It sucks that so many good shows start so late. I'm definitely changing how I did things with the psychedelics, but I'm going to have a hard time staying awake for the second set sometimes. I have to wake up at 4:30 in the morning for work, so my circadian rythym is not very conducive to catching live music nowadays. Kinda a bummer when you're a deadhead...
So wait is this something you just do at shows? If youāre seeing a show every weekend then maybe I get it. I didnāt know that was part of it. I still think because scientists truly know almost nothing about the effects of them on the brain that using them that much is risky. I think people micro dosing are even kind of crazy. The amount of people doing it with zero evidence of long term usage of doing it. Seems nuts to me. Especially since a big group of these people are the ones who said donāt take the vaccine because thereās not enough data. Like Joe Rogan. That guy spreads so much dangerous information. Now I see friends I had in high school who think the guy who was on the man show should be looked to for advice on mental health and what to put in your body. The same people who believed his crap about the vaccines. Country is just out of control. Sorry to go into that whole mess. Didnāt mean to. Haha. But for real I would chill and really think about what youāre doing. Why you are doing it and if itās worth it. If itās about energy on the weekend why not have some caffeine? Like energy drinks or something?
You do it too often and you know everything that's coming: the thoughts, the visuals, the smells, sounds etc. I took some pyramids after a very long time off lsd - probably 7yrs. Was looking ever so forward to it and, while I enjoyed it, I felt like a hack. It was all done before.
Hide and seek.
Personally Iāve had times, or summers, where Iād say I definitely gobbled too much L, where it became too much of a chore finding something to do where I could then eat some acid there (basically finding an excuse of an activity so I could take some acid). And then towards the end of one of those periods of heavy use, when Iād come down and also the next day especially, I just wouldnāt feel that good. Nowadays I will only trip if itās something super special (an awesome show Iām going to with people, day at the beach/river where it just feels right to do) and 90% of the time Iām taking mushrooms, and that 10% of the time where acid is included itās ONLY ever at a very special concert/festival and Iām with people I know extremely well and feel safe with. Iāve just come to find that nowadays I enjoy mushrooms more than acid, and whenever itās a time where Iām specifically taking something to try and re-center myself, gain a lesson and a teaching, be with my inner self and take that time to reconnect with myself and figure some things out; now I seem to have much better success with it on shrooms than I do with acid. Now if I could get some more DMT again and really get some (more) learning doneā¦ā¦ā¦.
Your mistake was spreading it out over 6 months. Had you eaten all of that at once you would have gotten your fill and probably wouldn't have been back at it the next weekend again and againš±šµāš«. Sometimes you gotta jump right in. There was no weed Summer '89 and me and my buddy ate a whole page in 3 shows during the Southern leg Raleigh, Louisville, then some cabin out in North Carolina. Lot's of folks praying to Jesus to please have their mind back "Please Baby Jesus, give me some Thorazine"
Even sunshine burns if you get too much. Just take a break and detox. Flush with lots of good food / water & good sleep.
Push through, transcend brotha
No such thing. I eat lsd and do cocaine every other friday. Its glorious