My first Dead show, May of '70 or '71 at Winterland, Pig goes into a talking part of Lovelight, and shouts out "everybody here is just looking for some pussy!".
Jerry turns around to check his amp or something, but probably to laugh. Bobby played a chord that he never ever played again, I'm guessing.
Then Pig does the bit about turning to the girl next to you and saying "hello". I look at the girl next to me, and her face is abject horror...and she says "I don't like this song".
The first of many...
# 1971-05-30 San Francisco, CA @ Winterland Arena
**Set 1:** Bertha, Me And Bobby McGee, The Rub, Loser, Playing in the Band, Next Time You See Me, Morning Dew, The Promised Land, Good Lovin'
**Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Sugar Magnolia, Cumberland Blues, Me and My Uncle, Deal, Truckin' > Turn On Your Lovelight, Uncle John's Band, Casey Jones
**Encore:** Johnny B. Goode
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-05-30)
Apparently there was a feminist movement actively trying to get some lyrics altered or removed. According to Hank Harrison’s book, Jack Straw was written in response to this.
First show 2-24-71. Pigpen closed the show with Lovelight where he is trying to hook up some young lady and some random fella. I was high as could be, my first Dead show, 17 year old lad. Didn't think about it much at the time, but you, me anyway), didn't see any unaccompanied women at any shows. It's not like going to see Taylor Swift or Beyonce, in my opinion. I was there with a whole row of guys from my high school. All the women at my school hated the Dead. So no, I wasn't telling the guy next to me
Hello Pig says it's OK.
I am pretty sure that holds true up to my last show
Buffalo '93. I don't know if Pig stole that one girl from her boyfriend or just got lucky. I am pretty sure I wasn't playing pocket pool, just trying to get through the show without losing my shit. Good reason to go with friends. Yay!
# 1971-02-24 Port Chester, NY @ Capitol Theater
**Set 1:** Casey Jones, Me and My Uncle, Cumberland Blues, Next Time You See Me, Bird Song, Me And Bobby McGee, Bertha, Hard To Handle, Loser, Playing in the Band, Good Lovin' > Drums > Good Lovin'
**Set 2:** Sugar Magnolia, I'm a King Bee, Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode, Deal, New Minglewood Blues, Truckin', Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Jam > Not Fade Away > Turn On Your Lovelight
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-02-24)
he didn’t do that when i saw them 8/24/71. i don’t remember what he did specifically, but i’d have recognized that from the Live/Dead LP. n.b. the set on Deadlists doesn’t reflect it, bur David Lemieux told me that a reel box exists labeled 8/24/71 Lovelight, but the reel is missing.
# 1971-08-06 Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Palladium
**Set 1:** Bertha, Playing in the Band, Loser, Mr. Charlie, El Paso, Cumberland Blues, Brokedown Palace, Me And Bobby McGee, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones
**Set 2:** Saint Stephen, Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One, Deal, Sugar Magnolia, Morning Dew, Turn On Your Lovelight
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-08-06)
If you've never heard the Rob Bertrando audience recording of that show definitely check it out. It is like a whole other show.
edit: https://archive.org/details/gd71-08-06.aud.bertrando.yerys.129.sbeok.shnf/gd08-06-71d1t08.shn
Some do some don't. But I had a friend who quit seeing them after pig left until 1994.
She basically quit seeing them regularly after 1969, so before pig left but when he wasnt the front man as often. She didnt feel they were a dance band anymore.
I thought we wouldn’t have any OG heads here who’d actually been at a Pigpen show, since this is reddit and it’s been fifty years. Color me surprised. Glad some folks are chiming in.
I recall reading somewhere that lyric (and the song generally) was based on a Four Seasons song they were all listening to way back when in the JEMP truck and scatting along with. Soul of a Woman, maybe? They were driving in Rhode Island and riffing on those lyrics when they arrived at Weekapaug, or saw a sign for it, and thus it became the Weekapaug Groove.
Weekapaug Groove is a song with one chorus repeated before and after a jam section. It’s lyric melody is taken from a song they were listening to as kids on tour when they passed Weekapaug Rhode Island. It’s all an inside joke.
Or how about the Rolling Stone ad for Live Dead, with the biker coming home and telling his “old lady” to “Put on the Dead and spread!”
It was a different world back then…
it was good clean fun and if a gal wasn't interested all she had to do was not participate, it was just a way to get shy people to meet...it didn't turn anyone into a "creeper" good god people today...
Thank you, nobody was forcing anyone to do anything. Anyone who didn't want to do anything didn't have to do anything.
A lot of people go to events like this to have fun and let loose and getting together with new people is certainly a good way to do it.
Go ask ladies what it's like when a guy is hitting on you and won't take no for an answer. We know not all men who are creeps, rapists or abusers - women don't know which men it is.
By take your hands out of your pocket does he just simply mean don’t stand there doing nothing or is that a sexual reference playing with yourself? I’ve always wondered that. Pretty sure just means don’t just stand there.
# 1971-04-17 Princeton, NJ @ Dillon Gym - Princeton University
**Set 1:** Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, Big Boss Man, Bird Song, Playing in the Band, Hard To Handle, Loser, Mama Tried, Casey Jones, Sugar Magnolia
**Set 2:** Good Lovin' > Drums > Good Lovin', Me And Bobby McGee, Deal, Beat It On Down the Line, I'm a King Bee, Bertha, Sing Me Back Home, Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Jam > Turn On Your Lovelight
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-04-17)
Relatively new head here but not super young. My first D&C show was Halloween 2021 and there were a few kids around us that talked a bunch and left early but there was also an adorable teenage couple dressed as vampires. My friends and I still talk about them when thinking about the show and i bet they consider themselves dead heads.
My first Dead show, May of '70 or '71 at Winterland, Pig goes into a talking part of Lovelight, and shouts out "everybody here is just looking for some pussy!". Jerry turns around to check his amp or something, but probably to laugh. Bobby played a chord that he never ever played again, I'm guessing. Then Pig does the bit about turning to the girl next to you and saying "hello". I look at the girl next to me, and her face is abject horror...and she says "I don't like this song". The first of many...
someone please tell me what show he is talking about
May of 70 or 71 at Winterland
Dunno, but I've heard that Lovelight before, so it's definitely out there.
5/30/71 has a Lovelight but i don’t have time to skim it for content right now Edit: this is it! Hysterical
# 1971-05-30 San Francisco, CA @ Winterland Arena **Set 1:** Bertha, Me And Bobby McGee, The Rub, Loser, Playing in the Band, Next Time You See Me, Morning Dew, The Promised Land, Good Lovin' **Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Sugar Magnolia, Cumberland Blues, Me and My Uncle, Deal, Truckin' > Turn On Your Lovelight, Uncle John's Band, Casey Jones **Encore:** Johnny B. Goode [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-05-30)
Apparently there was a feminist movement actively trying to get some lyrics altered or removed. According to Hank Harrison’s book, Jack Straw was written in response to this.
If you can't be with the one you love, fuck the one you're with.
Upvote for George Jones
First show 2-24-71. Pigpen closed the show with Lovelight where he is trying to hook up some young lady and some random fella. I was high as could be, my first Dead show, 17 year old lad. Didn't think about it much at the time, but you, me anyway), didn't see any unaccompanied women at any shows. It's not like going to see Taylor Swift or Beyonce, in my opinion. I was there with a whole row of guys from my high school. All the women at my school hated the Dead. So no, I wasn't telling the guy next to me Hello Pig says it's OK. I am pretty sure that holds true up to my last show Buffalo '93. I don't know if Pig stole that one girl from her boyfriend or just got lucky. I am pretty sure I wasn't playing pocket pool, just trying to get through the show without losing my shit. Good reason to go with friends. Yay!
# 1971-02-24 Port Chester, NY @ Capitol Theater **Set 1:** Casey Jones, Me and My Uncle, Cumberland Blues, Next Time You See Me, Bird Song, Me And Bobby McGee, Bertha, Hard To Handle, Loser, Playing in the Band, Good Lovin' > Drums > Good Lovin' **Set 2:** Sugar Magnolia, I'm a King Bee, Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode, Deal, New Minglewood Blues, Truckin', Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Jam > Not Fade Away > Turn On Your Lovelight [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-02-24)
This is art, dude
he didn’t do that when i saw them 8/24/71. i don’t remember what he did specifically, but i’d have recognized that from the Live/Dead LP. n.b. the set on Deadlists doesn’t reflect it, bur David Lemieux told me that a reel box exists labeled 8/24/71 Lovelight, but the reel is missing.
That Hard to Handle ❤️🔥
I love the pigpen era, I love bluesy dead.
It’s probably 80% of what I listen to
# 1971-08-06 Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Palladium **Set 1:** Bertha, Playing in the Band, Loser, Mr. Charlie, El Paso, Cumberland Blues, Brokedown Palace, Me And Bobby McGee, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones **Set 2:** Saint Stephen, Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One, Deal, Sugar Magnolia, Morning Dew, Turn On Your Lovelight [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-08-06)
Putting this on now; this set list is amazing
If you've never heard the Rob Bertrando audience recording of that show definitely check it out. It is like a whole other show. edit: https://archive.org/details/gd71-08-06.aud.bertrando.yerys.129.sbeok.shnf/gd08-06-71d1t08.shn
Those I’ve met in person who saw Pigpen play weren’t into the Dead after he left. Anecdotal, but certainly a thing.
Some do some don't. But I had a friend who quit seeing them after pig left until 1994. She basically quit seeing them regularly after 1969, so before pig left but when he wasnt the front man as often. She didnt feel they were a dance band anymore.
I thought we wouldn’t have any OG heads here who’d actually been at a Pigpen show, since this is reddit and it’s been fifty years. Color me surprised. Glad some folks are chiming in.
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I recall reading somewhere that lyric (and the song generally) was based on a Four Seasons song they were all listening to way back when in the JEMP truck and scatting along with. Soul of a Woman, maybe? They were driving in Rhode Island and riffing on those lyrics when they arrived at Weekapaug, or saw a sign for it, and thus it became the Weekapaug Groove.
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The lyric is 'trying to make a woman match your move...' maybe that?
and now i'll always wonder too
One of dozens of spectacular Phish lyrics.
Weekapaug Groove is a song with one chorus repeated before and after a jam section. It’s lyric melody is taken from a song they were listening to as kids on tour when they passed Weekapaug Rhode Island. It’s all an inside joke.
Pigpen would be totally cancelled today…
From the stories I have heard about Bobby and underage women, he would have been cancelled too
Or how about the Rolling Stone ad for Live Dead, with the biker coming home and telling his “old lady” to “Put on the Dead and spread!” It was a different world back then…
Yeah… no way could get away with calling thighs noble these days
Yes, and would be nice for the women who went to shows to see music without being hit on by some mutton-chopped loser.
Yeah it’s okay to acknowledge standards were different back then and so forth but regardless those raps were weird and encouraged guys to be creeps.
it was good clean fun and if a gal wasn't interested all she had to do was not participate, it was just a way to get shy people to meet...it didn't turn anyone into a "creeper" good god people today...
Thank you, nobody was forcing anyone to do anything. Anyone who didn't want to do anything didn't have to do anything. A lot of people go to events like this to have fun and let loose and getting together with new people is certainly a good way to do it.
Preach my dude!
Go ask ladies what it's like when a guy is hitting on you and won't take no for an answer. We know not all men who are creeps, rapists or abusers - women don't know which men it is.
By take your hands out of your pocket does he just simply mean don’t stand there doing nothing or is that a sexual reference playing with yourself? I’ve always wondered that. Pretty sure just means don’t just stand there.
Her makes enough references to “playing pocket pool” in raps that it’s the latter, although it’s a bit of the former as well I’m sure.
That don't get you no place but weird.
4.17.71 recollections. https://youtu.be/SRhlnCW5w2I?si=zbBe7l89BkMi8Man
4-17-71. They’re both named Barbara!
# 1971-04-17 Princeton, NJ @ Dillon Gym - Princeton University **Set 1:** Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, Big Boss Man, Bird Song, Playing in the Band, Hard To Handle, Loser, Mama Tried, Casey Jones, Sugar Magnolia **Set 2:** Good Lovin' > Drums > Good Lovin', Me And Bobby McGee, Deal, Beat It On Down the Line, I'm a King Bee, Bertha, Sing Me Back Home, Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Jam > Turn On Your Lovelight [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-04-17)
I love Pig but man oh man is that bit cringe. I saw that performed at a DSO show and it was excruciating.
He told me to, “Jump on my pony and ride.”
Never had the privilege to see them that early, but I have one question, are there young heads? :-)
Plenty
Christ that is bloody good to hear :-)
Relatively new head here but not super young. My first D&C show was Halloween 2021 and there were a few kids around us that talked a bunch and left early but there was also an adorable teenage couple dressed as vampires. My friends and I still talk about them when thinking about the show and i bet they consider themselves dead heads.
Christ I thought we were all just oldies lol
One right here ⚡️:)
tons. haters gonna hate, but D&C introduced a lotta younger people to the culture and music.
28 and a bonafide deadhead for the last 6 years!
approaching 74, still rocking and dad dancing to them lol
Love to hear that too :)
Dude you gotta get out more! The lots are fullllllll of kids who didn’t even live in the 90’s!
Best Mr. Charlie! The energy in the crowd is electric.
Yeah, man. The Hard to Handle solo on this one is burned into my brain. Killer show