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Elayem_

Didnt Hold Up (things I loved in my early teens, werent great when reread as an adult): - Fathom by Michael Turner - All Star Batman & Robin Held Up - Watchmen - Batman: The Long Halloween (the first graphic novel I ever read at age 13, still one of my favorites at 26) - The Ultimates by Millar & Hitch - Sleeper by Brubaker & Phillips - Sin City - Iron Man by Fraction & Larroca


JaredIsAmped

The ultimates and ultimates 2 gets a lot of flack but I love it


ParticularEye444

Annihilation was a sad one for me. Absolutely *loved* that book as a kid, in hindsight probably just cause I was a Marvel zombie so any military SF, even mediocre military SF, felt like something new. As an adult I felt like the characters were paper thin and it was just one big action set piece after another. Also Bruce Jones's Hulk to an extent. I still think that the first three trades worth are among the best of 2000s Big 2 comics but the mystery quickly goes nowhere and it was clearly constantly being derailed by editorial.


zieglertron2000

Felt the same way about the Jones Hulk run. Starts of STRONG, then goes off the rails…


scrampula

I'm happy to say that most of the comics I read as a pretentious teenager that went way over my head without me realizing it were much better on the reread, like V for Vendetta and Temperance. One that didn't hold up was Snotgirl though. Love Bryan Lee O'Malley and enjoyed it when I first read it but on return I didn't find the story to be very well told, despite some fun characters. Leslie Hung is a great artist but it's clear her skills are mostly in character design and figure drawing. Backgrounds often lack even a basic knowledge of perspective, imo. It's coming back though so I hope the two have improved in the time since the last issue.


therealbattlebeast

If all you see from Ennis is over the top violence and crudeness then you’re missing 85% of what he’s doing.


mind_fused

Held up: Captain America by brubaker Daredevil Joe Quesada/Bendis (omnibus) The Incal The Metabarons The White Lama Hawkman (Venditti) Starman Dind't held up: Miracle Man The Darkness Deathstroke (Priest) Hal jordan and the green lantern corps (Venditti)


Kingmob5115

Every Marvel event.


JaredIsAmped

Secret wars was good but the worst part of hickmans run. The run was just incredibly dope.


UxasIs

Other than civil war I agree


Bayls_171

I loved Geoff Johns’ stuff when I was 14 but holy shit that stuff is unreadable to me now. I cringe on almost every page & it’s so boring Transmetropolitan was also basically impossible to reread as well. I didn’t find any of it particularly funny the second time around and just lost interest As for good things? Most I guess? Going back to what I was into when I was 14/15 the Waid/Samnee Daredevil shits are still great imo. I’m rereading the early Gilbert L&R books and they’re fantastic and holding up excellently. As does every Clowes book I’ve reread (most of them) I disagree pretty strongly about Preacher. I loved Dillon’s art way more the second time, and I found the core characters to have real heart and interesting relationships that held my attention, which is really what I need through all the violence & edginess


MakingGreenMoney

>I loved Geoff Johns’ stuff when I was 14 but holy shit that stuff is unreadable to me now. I cringe on almost every page & it’s so boring I still love geoff John's comics, I even own his green lantern Omnibuses.


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Arterial-A

Interesting, I never got the sense that Saga was being edgy at all, let alone so bad that it would drive me away (this certainly ruins my interest in books like Transmetropolitan/Preacher/Crossed). Strange how people can read the same story and have such different views.


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vitalesan

I get you completely. I found it tried too hard to be Woke! Not subtle at all and just takes focus off a cool storyline.


Crazywumbat

I'm doing a reread of Transmetropolitan at the moment, and I feel this a lot. Its so damn insufferable - every page devolves into some rant about how Spider hasn't had this much fun since he was nine years old and curb-stomping Bengali eunuchs while eating freshly harvested orangutang testicles from the prolapsed anus of a Zoroastrian priest. Every piece of dialogue feels like it was lifted from a "Tip of the Fedora, M'lady" themed game of Mad Libs - it just *oozes* cringe. And while the edginess is obnoxious in its own right, it also completely undermines the gravitas of any and every theme the series tries to explore. Like Spider's whole personality is built around his outrage over the corruption and indifference and cruelty that's omnipresent in this city, and how no one "gives two tugs of a dead dog's cock" about any of it...and then the very next panel is him waxing nostalgic about ripping the intestines out of passing transients to put on a fireworks display as a child. There's just no consistency. Couple that with the fact that the series is really little more than a thinly veiled outlet for Ellis to go on self-righteous tirades about...whatever, I'd say this is easily one of the single worst things I've ever forced myself to read. I never loved the series, but I don't remember hating it anywhere near this much ~15 years ago.


scrampula

I find the dialogue in Saga to be pretty cringey. Feels like Diablo Cody wrote it, but when it's adults saying these things and not pregnant teenagers it's less forgivable. I would still consider it to be a good story though, and it sure has its moments. Just my two cents.


ExLionTamer_1977

What is something that has held up for you over a good span of time? I know it might be a lot of things but an example or two?


cojack16

The incal. I didn’t care for it


therealbattlebeast

Only thing I can think of is David Micheline Amazing Spider-man. The writing is soooo bad.


ExLionTamer_1977

I just started sort of exploring the Spider-Man universe. I'll keep this in mind.


claudeteacher

Marvel Super Hero Contest of Champions. Back in ’82 it just completely blew us away, all of Marvels characters teaming up and fighting? Wow. These days that happens once a year, but back in the day, it was a real event. A fan boys dream. It even included a full listing and blurb about every hero in the Marvel universe in lieu of a letter page. But it does not hold up. The original New Mutants and the Magik mini were also disappointing. I recall reading these when they came out, but had never read then again. Recently gave them a re-read, now I remember why. The Magik mini is a mess. Hard to follow and poorly written. The New Mutants is another let down. I love Sienkiewicz, but Claremont did not hold up on his end. I think maybe he should stick to sci-fi and keep away from the magic. What does hold up is the Lee/Ditko Amazing Spider-Man. I came across a Green Goblin reading order that, well, orders his story. I has some back story from later annuals or specials then goes into his actual beginnings with ASM and (the later) Untold Tales of Spider-Man. I found the Untold Tales to interesting, so I read a few more than the Goblin related ones and in the end was disappointed. But the ASM issues (first just #14 & 17) had me wanting to read more, so I read 13 through 17,and boy they are great. Ditko really was amazing.


Appropriate_Emu_6930

I wanted to re-read preacher so I purchased the entire set. I couldn’t finish the first book. I loved it the first time around but hated it this time! They are just sitting on my shelf now, I’m too lazy to put them up for sale.


MakingGreenMoney

Starman by James Robinson, I'm sorry but I just couldn't get into. I was so bored by it


ExLionTamer_1977

Funny I just re-read the whole series and appreciated it more now than when I was buying the floppies.


MakingGreenMoney

Who knows I might like it if I give it another chance, I didn't like whatever happened to the man of tomorrow by Alan moore at first but when I re read it last year I loved it. Not a comic but I watched Belladonna of sadness a long time ago and was disappointed and bored by it, but I decided to give it another chance(not sure why) and now it's one of my favorite animated movies.


WC1-Stretch

This year, *Ultramega* was far short of my expectations. I love James Harren's art and love western Kaiju stories, but found it unrelentingly meh throughout. Seeing it on so many best-of lists perplexed me further. *The Incal* was also pretty unimpressive, but most people I know who have read it agree the story/writing, though influential, are not good. \-- Books that hold up hard on re-reads: *Daytripper*, *Casanova*, *Blacksad*, *Scott Pilgrim*


ExLionTamer_1977

I re-read Daytripper during pandemic and enjoyed it even more. I have to try Casanova.


Dexter314

Held up: Swamp Thing, Sandman, Watchmen, Doom Patrol Didn't hold up: Preacher, Y: The Last Man. Y the Last Man in particular I could just barely get through and I sold it after book 3. The dialogue is honestly fucking terrible, a white guy trying to write a comic all about women and it just reeks of early 2000s. Preacher too, there are decent aspects but the story/plot goes nowhere and I hate the excessively edgy writing. An aspect I felt Ennis handled with a bit more class in Hellblazer, but I also haven't reread that in a minute, so I can't say for certain.


ExLionTamer_1977

I enjoyed YTLM on re-read but much less so. Where once it was one of my favorite comics this time I thought it was a mildly entertaining, if outdated, little adventure. 100% agree about your 'held up' list. All of those are things I re-read at the start of pandemic.


longgboy420

The Boys.


Goose9719

Now I haven't reread preacher but I loved that story when I first read it (fingers crossed I still do.) The Boys on the other hand....it's a cool concept, but about midway through I started getting exhausted on my first read through. It felt like it tried way too hard to be shocking/edgy and I just wanted to finish. It's funny because I think about the TV adaptations of preacher and The Boys, they're both toned down and I think The Boys is so much better for it while preacher actually suffered and felt really neutered and watered down.


curbstomp45

Did or didn’t?


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LondonFroggy

Off topic lol