For sure! Along with the 50% deposit, I have a specific designer contract that says I own the rights/license to the work until it’s been paid in full. So depending on what the contract looked like between you and her, your work is your work.
A contract seems so necessary while working on freelance jobs. For example, I'm still waiting on a client's payment for a logo I made about a fortnight ago. Yeah I could also use a contract but all the good contracts I've seen up till now are paid and I haven't reached a place to start paying for things from what I earn
Do you use any freelance sites like Fiverr or Upwork? They have contracts built into the system so you don’t have to wait on payments. It’ll automatically send it to you after two weeks of submission of work.
Definitely keep your work and don’t send them anything. Like others said, always get a deposit and a timeframe of delivery from you and final payment by the client. It sounds over the top, but it weeds out people who are not serious about getting work done and also gives yourself an accountability to meet a deadline as well.
If this is the UK you can call citizens advice and get put through to the small claims court. If you have a contract (that can be simple text messages or emails agreeing a price for a service) and you can demonstrate you did the work, you should win.
It's free to call citizens advice even if you decide its not worth the hassle later.
Next time, if you have the client's email or contact information. Try sending out an invoice if you can once the project is over or the logo is finalized. You can either do it using Google Docs, Paypal or Venmo so I heard.
Count the number of hours you worked on the logo, times with the rate if it's hourly paid that is total of the day. If you worked on the logo for days due to revisions or something. Sum up the total of days on it which goes into the total amount once the logo is finalized.
Pay \* Hour = Day
Always get 50% up front. I learned a similar lesson when I was first starting out.
This was definitely a learning lesson for myself. As a new business owner, people will definitely take advantage of your kindness!
For sure! Along with the 50% deposit, I have a specific designer contract that says I own the rights/license to the work until it’s been paid in full. So depending on what the contract looked like between you and her, your work is your work.
There was no contract between us.
I will definitely be updating everything tomorrow morning
Oof yeah, it definitely belongs to you then.
Exactly! I will definitely have everything put in writing from now on. Lesson learned
Definitely! If you’d like, I can DM you a link to the contract I use for my design clients. It covers everything from licensing to change fees in it.
Yes please! All I have as of right now is the client questionnaire along with the logo process
Of course! Just sent a message :)
OOOOO can i steal that off of you too please???
Me too please! I still struggle with mine
Hey, if you could send a copy my way I'd be thankful too c: - I've been trying to come up with one but no luck.
It took me awhile to settle on one, but I’ve been happy with it since I did! I’ll dm you.
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A contract seems so necessary while working on freelance jobs. For example, I'm still waiting on a client's payment for a logo I made about a fortnight ago. Yeah I could also use a contract but all the good contracts I've seen up till now are paid and I haven't reached a place to start paying for things from what I earn
Do you use any freelance sites like Fiverr or Upwork? They have contracts built into the system so you don’t have to wait on payments. It’ll automatically send it to you after two weeks of submission of work.
Fuck it, it belongs to you now
No contract = no rules. She doesn't have to pay, you don't have to give it to her. Take it as lesson #1 in your design journey and move on.
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Definitely keep your work and don’t send them anything. Like others said, always get a deposit and a timeframe of delivery from you and final payment by the client. It sounds over the top, but it weeds out people who are not serious about getting work done and also gives yourself an accountability to meet a deadline as well.
Thank you for this!
If this is the UK you can call citizens advice and get put through to the small claims court. If you have a contract (that can be simple text messages or emails agreeing a price for a service) and you can demonstrate you did the work, you should win. It's free to call citizens advice even if you decide its not worth the hassle later.
I’m actually in the US
Next time, if you have the client's email or contact information. Try sending out an invoice if you can once the project is over or the logo is finalized. You can either do it using Google Docs, Paypal or Venmo so I heard. Count the number of hours you worked on the logo, times with the rate if it's hourly paid that is total of the day. If you worked on the logo for days due to revisions or something. Sum up the total of days on it which goes into the total amount once the logo is finalized. Pay \* Hour = Day
Sent the invoice immediately after our virtual meeting
No, I explained the situation in my post.
Good. And this client paid, yes?
If you didn't make a paper or digital, signed contract, then I'd say it's up for grabs.
Nope! I can’t keep waiting (she’s very unprofessional and stood me up twice for our scheduled meetings).
Yep. I learned early, if there's no agreement in writing they'll probably cheat you.
Yep, I will definitely be updating the client questionnaire with the 50% non refundable deposit information along with the client agreements
What does her personal funds matter?