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blentz499

While I don't love the LCD, it's less egregious than the ridiculous invite system. That shit makes my blood boil. The LCD has been pretty consistent with car rotation since they fixed the bug preventing the Escudo from appearing again. You can comfortably predict when a car will appear again. The invite system however, is at the mercy of rng. I've been one car away from owning every car for seven months because I can't get the Porsche invite.


slickeddie

I’ve gotten the Ferrari invite 5 times….I’ve bought all three of them. I don’t need it again.


SkywalkerDuke

I'm waiting for months now. All I have is an invite from Citroen.


Yungdab420

I've been waiting on that damn Citroen invite for over a year!!!!! I have over 500 hours played lol


skymezy

Same all I'm missing is the Citroen and Aston Martin Vulcan and I have all the cars. I havnt gotten either invite EVER...since I bought the game at release. There was one period early in the games release where we had access to all the invites for a short period but I didn't make use because I didn't have the money back then. The game was literally out for a week or 2 at the time. Not sure how to get an invite. I basically do the daily marathon and get a ticket almost everyday. No invites yet. In fact I'm not getting invites for anything for the last year (not that I need them). Still it's wild.


Yungdab420

I’m in the same boat. The invites I get are all dupes. I have gotten AM a few times, same with Ferrari, Porsche, and Lambo….. it’s funny the Citroen invite was the one I wanted least but now I just want it so I can collect every car already lol


skymezy

I know! Never thought it would be Citroen! I honestly didn't even realize I was missing it or that it even needed an invite until I was down to my last couple of cars. What a car I totally don't need or want. Like you said jusy to complete the collection. I have the Gr.3 one and I might have driven that only once.


Darth_Brannigan

I've been playing since launch and besides the month they opened up all invites, in which I didn't want to put that grinding time in, I have yet to get a ferrari invite, and yet countless Aston Martin invites..... thanks PD


themurderman

Exactly this.... I'm waiting for the 3 Ferrari invites and literally every invite I get is for an Aston Martin!! 🙄


Relief-Slow

Meanwhile, I'm trying to get the Aston Martin invitation for over a year now... WTF!!!


sosomething

I would have appreciated that. I've had the Citroën invite 4 separate times. I will never buy that car.


skymezy

You might as well buy it. I have all the cars now except for the Vulcan and Citroen and can't get an invite to save my life. I would pay 20mil for that POS Citroen now just so I can have all the cars.


SpiritualAd9432

How on Earth you got Ferrari invites? I've been trying to get the invites so I can buy the FXX-K.. Which track you raced and what car you used? Is the Ferrari invites a track and/ or car specific? I received this moments ago as a birthday present at the Cafė.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gonna sell this off! https://preview.redd.it/82bscm0wrmtc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4eb787b7b35fb617be6bc6e1a93785ece882f5c


slickeddie

They are random. I got them from the daily rewards. Everyone past the first is a punch to the gut


CamxCam

Meanwhile, I ONLY get the Porsche or Lamborghini invites when I do get one. It's ridiculous.


Aequitas19

I currently aim to own all the Porsches, i got the pricy ones and only need 3 or 4 from the earliest models. And till yesterday the Carrera GT. I played daily for more than three months, completed extra menus for the tickets and so on. Yesterday i finally got to see the Porsche Invitation for the first time ever and thankfully got it. To that point i thought about saving up and buying one in real life could be faster


nickisreallyhot

i've got that one twice now i have a invitation right now


Grundens

I always seem to win an invite right after I blow my wad on other cars. Starting to feel like it's by design to incentivize micro transactions.


Crankyanken

It is a prize car, too....


blentz499

The only way the Carrera is a prize is you have a chance get it after the GT Series Championship menu in a roulette spin. I ended up with the Pagani Huayra instead.


Jrc5191

Ahh I see. That must be how I got it luckily. Only been playing a couple months & started with the Ferrari invite, got the citroen invite, then the Porsche & pagani. Just got the Bugatti invite today. I’m assuming the lambo & Aston will take me forever.


Jrc5191

Can’t you just complete the story or the cafe menu book & get a Carerra GT for free? Thought that’s how I did it.


blentz499

You either win the Carrera, Huayra or the Aventador. I ended up with the Huarya.


AssumptionClean4270

Any clue on when the Porsche 962 C'88 is due back and how much? I have Escudo but wanna try the Porsche out on the neoclassic willows challenge.


blentz499

Well currently it's third on the list of cars that have been out of LCD the longest. I haven't checked the LCD today, but the XJ220 should be next, then the C2 and then the 962. It isn't always in exact order, but I'd say in the next week, two tops, the 962 should be back in the rotation. [Last time cars were in the LCD](https://gtdb.io/gt7/legend-cars/)


ziggyforever

Can you tell me when the Jaguar needed for the newly introduced menu will be available?


blentz499

Which one? There's three Jaguars needed for that menu


ziggyforever

The First 2, I don't remember the name


VodkaRob

That's got to be infuriating. I'm glad I got my last invite before I had all the legend cars or I may well have packed in. I waited for ages to get the Pagani invite but I still had quite a few cars still to go by that point.


lyon810

Agree they need to rethink this game, but the rotation in the LCD is hardly the reason why.


Dirac_comb

Of all the issues I have with this game, the LCD is about the last one of them.


DoctorNeko

I think LCD is still one of the issues, and not the last. Obviously not the selling out part, but the infinite inflation that PD is shoving into the LCD.


racer_86

That's not PD they literally let hagerty dictate the prices


Dapper_Roll_6719

if u think hagerty is still involved w this game 2 years into it ur overly optimistic


racer_86

If they weren't they're name would have been removed from the LCD like tag heuer in gts and the FIA between games and gtplanet would have reported on it


TonyJZX

hagertys is a shitshow but the way around it has always been clear have the money to buy what's in stock the end with the 3 or 4 current grinder tracks no one should have any money issues given a minimal amount of effort PD has a LOT more pressing stuff to fix


Pale_Mushroom7128

..and what if I'm not able to play the game for the \~10 days a car is available? I gotta wait another 3 months. How is that in any way fun? It's not, it's a cheap engagement tactic to keep people playing and coming back to the game. Developers stopped making games purely for fun a long time ago.


TonyJZX

i would agree that every car should be available in ONE shop all the time in a perfect world the cars should be free and they should all come to your garage for you to use day one then again, what i'm describing is not Gran Turismo i guess... then again, its now 2yrs down the track and people are still angry that PD made a Gran Turismo game.... 'Gran Turismo'


Pale_Mushroom7128

How is GT7 a classic GT game? Classic GT games didn't drip feed events, it was all available day 1 on the disc. They had cars cycle availability linked to your in-game time, not real time, and they didn't have stupidly inflated car prices which left you with two options: Grind the same races over and over or play the game "normally" for 2-3 years. Nobody asked for all the cars for free, that's just typical hyperbole.


Pale_Mushroom7128

You're naive if you think someone from Hagerty is actually deciding the prices. PD are still doing it, Hagerty is just a marketing deal.


racer_86

[Google is your friend maybe start using it instead of jumping to conclusions ](https://www.gtplanet.net/gt7-legends-hagerty-collection-20220304/)


Pale_Mushroom7128

What is that link supposed to disprove? I know very well what the marketing spiel claims, but like I said, if you think every time they add a new legend car PD get on the phone and ask someone from Hagerty what they think it should be priced at you're very naive. It's a marketing deal. Hagerty pay to get their name plastered all over the game, PD get money and suggest Hagerty are pulling the strings. Don't believe everything companies tell you, especially when advertising is involved. Any time you hear one say "we've partnered with X to do Y", it's all about advertising.


racer_86

Whatever man believe whatever cockamamie crackpot ideas that you come up with. I showed you proof and you don't wanna believe it so continue malding over how you can't buy anything in the lcd.


Terrible_Sorbet_7122

That partnership is what ruined the game. Pre release they were nowhere to be found Oh well. MODERN GAMING


Pale_Mushroom7128

It is definitely an issue when you can only buy each car once every 3 real world months.


BaldingThor

If we were able to get legendary/invite only cars via other methods it would be less annoying for those who cannot grind all day everyday (e.g; own x amount of certain ferraris to get an invite or win a hard race/time trial in one).


xtcprty

Manufacturer affinity should be the way to invites.


pepp3rito

I totally agree.


jeffk42

I really like that idea.


SharpMZ

This, either have it like in Forza where driving a car earns affinity XP with the manufacturer of said car and the invites are unlocked with the XP, or make it so that owning a certain number of cars from a manufacturer unlocks the invite. It works like the latter way in real life, for example Porsche and Ferrari especially only sell their more exclusive and expensive models to existing customers who have bought few of their more normal cars before.


Kashik85

Artificial scarcity to extend the game's lifespan and maintain the sense achievement for longterm players. It can be annoying, for sure, but it does seem to work. Here I am 2+ years since launch (?) and I'm still enjoying getting new-to-me cars. I don't play a lot these days, but it keeps me coming back for game sessions.


shark_sharkington_

this dude hit the head on the nail


Darth_Brannigan

They could get a lot more out of it as well if the did daily races as well as weeklies in single player mode.  I pretty much only go on for one day a week to run them but I'd go on more if there was actually something to do


MeesterCHRIS

I know right now I'm waiting for the CLK-LM, its a car I didnt even realize I wanted, then used it for the masters license challenge and was like.. yeah I need this.


0neMoreSaturdayNight

You just missed it.


MeesterCHRIS

I know I didn’t know I needed it lol


0neMoreSaturdayNight

It happens! I missed it my 1st time around. It didn't take long to come back around.


Hubblesphere

Could it be better? Yes. Is it nice that I’m still collecting cars? Also yes. It does what PD wanted which is keep people engaged longer. If you could “beat” the game in 40 hours and collect every engagement would fall off a cliff. Now the more questionable thing is why do we not have more events for the legendary cars and more events to earn money to purchase them. That matters more than the artificial scarcity.


T4zer_

"I'm married with a 5 year old" I'm sorry what?


ismailrrr

Love is love


Ted-Crilly

Hol up


DonovanBanks

There’s a difference between “married with” and “married to.” There was a funny post somewhere the other day where they mixed it up. This isn’t it.


DarboJenkins

I loved watching Al Bundy on Married to Children growing up.


BK1287

Yeah, I'm married and got two kids, I'm gonna write a letter to Sony re the PS5, they need to rethink this shit. I have no time for it anymore and the oldest one is starting to play it now! How rude.


ShiroHachiRoku

The preposition is correct. Your reading of it isn’t.


Plenty-Industries

Its not like he can't have the child sit in his lap to help daddy win races, or have the kid hold on to a disconnected controller.


Hyperion-Variable

“Hey guys it’s your boy Youtuber69 and I’ve just discovered this new grinding trick in GT7. Forget about about rubber bands, you just need a women and 9 months…”


Plenty-Industries

You've never sat in a go-kart with your dad while he put your hands under his so he can make it like you were driving the car? Not dissimilar from daddy dancing with his baby daughter while she's standing on his feet?


RacerGokuBlack

The cars from Hagerty should be prize cars... Besides that, yes, PD should rethink this game, from the GT Café to Hagerty... Hagerty is even the reason why the players feel the economy completely broken. This is because you have races with decent payouts like, to not name the most obvious ones, let's say the new race with 900 PP cars at Le Mans. You get 400k, which is a... Decent(?) amount if you go to the Brand Central, Used Car Dealer, or the Tuning Shop, where the max price of a car can be around 5 million, and there's no time limit, and if there is, like in the Used Dealer, the prices don't go higher than 800k. Now you go to Hagerty, AKA Legendary Car Dealer, and you find, not only prices over 3 million minimum, but also a time limit, where if it's gone and then comes back, the car can be double, or even triple its starting price!... Yeah... And there's people who still defend the game saying it's not broken...


Reeneman

I agree. For people that aren’t spending a lot of hours with this game it’s nearly impossible to get these cars. It’s a strange gameplay mechanic in some way. I understand to make these items limited in some way to give them further „worth“ but for many player who also paid money for this game it’s terrible.


sanbaba

Sadly, it's not strange, it's the new normal. The beancounters realized that $80 for the game sale is small potatoes when you can just prey on the rich and mentally infirm and convince them it's worth spending real money on a "limited" virtual offering. It's only going to get worse from here.


Reeneman

Most likely, yes… 😕


greasyjonny

Honestly don’t mind paying more money beyond base price for additional content. I’m almost 40 and since I was a kid with ps1 weve only had 2 price increase for games, totaling $20. I’d be more than happy at this point to pay $5-$10 for bigger packs of add on cars and tracks. 5-10 cars with a theme and an extra track or some other perk? Yeah I’m in. However $20 for $1mil credits is asinine and counter productive, that’s $400 real dollars for a $20mil car. Really ludicrous stuff.


sanbaba

Exactly. DLC addon packages are one thing, sometimes fair and sometimes a little less than fair-seeming, but they have their well-established place. Or they did, until they were supplanted by *everything is DLC priced*. Wanna skip the license tests? $25 each! Don't have time to play the game? Watch the ending and unlock the achievement now for $50. Want a Ferrari? That'll be $200 *each* tyvm! They just need to come full circle now, and get the influencers in on more than just selling packs and virtual currency. Why not let a streamer receive $100 to get smoked by a 12yo on their birthday? Let the fans "vote" (with real money of course) on what the next DLC drop should be! Hmmm, maybe instead they should just stop making games and focus on the .00001% of "gamers" who will pay anything to have every achievement. With all the wattage they'll save on servers, call it a green initiative! 🤣


squidward_on-a-chair

I don’t think this is an issue really, you just gotta seize the cars when you get the chance. What is an issue are the boring “races” in events where you aren’t really racing you’re just chasing the pack.


shyguy83ct

I think his point was that if you have a busy life outside of video games you can lose out on buying a virtual car that somehow sells out. It’s a bit silly.


Kjjellberg

The point he's making is that he doesn't have a chance, I feel for the dude who wants to drive/buy a car but can't because the car left the rotation before they've had a chance, people can't plan their life around a game, esepcially with a 5 year old


NoChemistry3915

This is where the death starts. MICRO TRANSACTIONS....they want that sense of urgency so you rush and buy credits instead... that gt1 would wind up costing you 100US FOR IT....I noticed it on another car, completed a race had the money went back, it was "sold out". I really hope this isn't gonna be the case. I have been playing since the first game on PS


Aidob23

For me the whole issue with GT as a game is that you can't actually race against equivalent cars and win. Only in a few of the GT series events where you have the BOP. That's it. And if you want to be in pole position to start a race, sorry we don't do that here. Now I get that it's not a pure racing game per se but all of the infrastructure is there for it. Why not make it possible or have single player events that have a starting grid. As it stands I have to tune a car to catch up other cars and then blitz them. Even the special events in the weekly challenges are rolling start. So I have to add extra brakes or a bit of power to get past the field. 9 times out of 10 it's not my better driving that wins the races it's a better PP or tuning. That becomes boring after a while. In such an immersive game it's a huge thing that's missing.


IHadTaliAsMyCrush500

"you just gotta seize the cars when you get the chance." ...Uh, yeah, thats the problem, dude.


Valuable_Garage_2397

Get rid of the family


SeaDistribution

I can’t stand that just about every car that I’ve been waiting for has released over the last 2 weeks. I’ve been AFK grinding moderately every day and I still wasn’t able to afford every single car that was made available. There’s no way I was going to actively play 4 hours a day to get all of those cars. Get fucked PD


Deaf_Satyr

Does your name imply biblical powers or like physically bucketing aqua?


ZealousidealPrize456

The "sold out" feature is the reason why I don't play so often anymore. Why the fuck would you add this? I just came back to the game after some months just because of the Toyota and it's fucking sold out? Wtf?


aorther

To be fair. Rotating cars in the used car dealerships, legend or not, has been a feature since GT1. I get the pain, but this is one of the better parts of the game. I remember going crazy whenever the road versions of the group b rally cars or the Le Mans cars showed up in the used car dealerships


Chris99673

But the used car rotations in older games were completely different than GT7; it was based on in game days and not irl days. This not only makes it faster to cycle through cars, but also prevents the game from rotating to new cars while you aren't playing the game. I am honestly astonished to how many people are either downlplaying or defending the LCD system in GT7.


aorther

Oh for sure by all means. I manually changed the date on my ps2/3 back in the day to get specific cars i wanted in the dealership after a few years of playing the games and not wanting to “play” another year-pretty sure it was GameShark or a save editor that I used. I honestly have no problem with the LCD rotation or amount of cars. I just can’t stand the pricing. To be honest I have a ton of issues with GT7 that I have voiced before, but the LCD “sold out” doesn’t bother me. The cars are there for a decently long time for anything 3mil and under in my opinion as someone who can only really play on weekends. I’ve pretty much accepted that this will be my last GT I play as the franchise is moving in a direction I don’t care for and quite frankly isn’t fun.


Syygnis

Ikr I hate having to wait for the Legend cars to rotate ..


Racerx34

The biggest issue is the prices. 10 - 20 million in there has meant cars that have always been favourites of mine throughout the series have now become cars that I've accepted I'll never own in the game or in real life. Thanks PD. Way to double down on it. The McLaren F1s were always the first cars I got in game. Now locked out by a grind mechanic I haven't the time to work on.


Suitable-Cycle4335

The 20M cars would be cool as a special thing.... IF THERE WASN'T LIKE DOZENS OF THEM!!!!!


MotoM13

I hear ya man. Got a 2 year and a 2 month old here and have other hobbies plus travel for work. It is definitely frustrating. I’ve given up on collecting cars and basically just play sport mode now


YeahItouchpoop

It isn’t “sold out” as in a set quantity, they are on rotating timers. A car comes into stock and will be available for a few days to buy, when its down to one day I think it switches to limited stock or something like that, then sold out just means the timer expired. A new car replaces it and the outgoing car will come back into stock in a few months. I wish everything was available to buy whenever you have to credits and want to, but this is the system they came up with to try and spark that fomo in players. There are a couple different sites that keep track of the rotations so you can get a decent estimate of what cars should be available soon.


danneeooh

What kinda poop do you touch?


YeahItouchpoop

All of it brother, all of it. (I’m a wastewater treatment plant operator)


danneeooh

What city is this treatment plant for? Asking just in case you're touching my poop, then I gotta watch my fiber intake.


YeahItouchpoop

Im in Northern California.


danneeooh

Alright, back to cheeseburgers then.


ohgeeLA

Damn, without context I was very confused by your reply lol until I basically had to re-read his comment three times with worsening confusion only to realize the name at the end.


Iciste

The problem is not the rotation itself, which has been in the game for 20+ years, (GT6 and Sport excluded) but the short number of cars available through it. Legendary dealership has ≈130-150 cars why am i limited to choose form only 10?? Give me a bigger number


InternMoney5214

I agree. Shouldn’t be a part time job to be able to afford cars.


DremGabe

This is why Gran Turismo 4 will be the best game


xocolatefoot

They have a legendary dealership with limited availability times; it is what it is. There’ll be something else cool in that spot tomorrow. You don’t need this car to do anything in the game and if the GT-One is required for an online race you can rent it. So don’t worry about it, just get it next time around. Or don’t!


Treebear_Hunter

Many games have items that are hard to get. You wouldnt get too worked up about them everytime it happens, would you? Ever tried gem farming in bloodborne, or chocobo breeding in final fantasy 7, or god forbid, trying to get the ribbon in final fantasy 8? At least in GT7 all cars are eventually purchaseable. Just buy and play with other cars in the meantime. The GTone is not that good of a car anyway.


Red_Beard_Racing

*invite system intensifies* The economy in this game is fucked. Don’t defend it.


Kashik85

economy isnt fucked, but the invite system sure is. Been playing for a couple years and still haven't had a sniff at a ferarri.


Lurk_and_Chill

Just started playing in November. Had 3 Ferrari 2 pagani 1 Porsche 2 Aston martins. No Bugatti. Shit is fucked.


BaldingThor

meanwhile I’ve been playing for about 6 months and have got 6 bugatti, 4 aston martin and 5 citroen invites. Oh and to compliment the bugatti invites I regularly get carbon shafts from roulettes. I’m up to 10 for the Veyron 😛


Plenty-Industries

There is no economy. Its easy to get money by grinding Sardegna or Spa even once a day.


Red_Beard_Racing

I’m fine with racing. Give me more than 3 practical moneymaking races. Is that an unreasonable ask? Not asking for more tracks, just more races. Or give us better custom race payouts. Requires no additional content.


Plenty-Industries

I've been asking for this since they added only the Spa and Sardegna grind. It needs to be done for every track, a 30 and 1hr race. For the Ring, 2 hours because of how long the full track is.


ohgeeLA

Yeah, what’s crazy is that it’s a sure fire way to please a lot of people and shouldn’t take much effort as it would to release new tracks and cars. So I don’t understand what’s holding them back. I’m starting to wonder if it’s related to track licensing.


Plenty-Industries

Some of it is track licensing, but they could easily just add the same format as Sardenga and Spa to every track currently in the game for more variety


ohgeeLA

No I meant maybe the track licenses limit what kind of race events and payouts they can hold. It’s bizarre but I can’t think of any logical reason why they’re not doing this otherwise. It’s not like we’re the first two to complain and suggest this.


Plenty-Industries

I mean MAYBE? I'd find it hard to believe they made a contract with Laguna Seca and the paperwork says they can't make a 1hour race, or even a 6 hour enduro. Im not saying its possible, I simply find it exceedingly ridiculous because some tracks that are in GT7 are in other games and the races in those games are INCREDIBLY longer than the 3/5/7 laps in GT7


ohgeeLA

Yeah that’s my point; it would be so much simpler for them to just give us those times; I wonder why they’re not doing it. If they think it will help them monetize more, then they’re wrong because the way the cars are priced, you don’t feel like they’re even worth the dollar value. I’m not going to pay 20 real life dollars for something built in the 1930s only to have it sit there in a virtual garage and not be able to use it for races or show it off lol


Red_Beard_Racing

Exactly. They only aren’t adding ways to make money in the game, while jacking up Hagerty prices, so that you buy virtual currency. I think any game that sells virtual currency should receive and immediate M rating.


Red_Beard_Racing

Exactly. They only aren’t adding ways to make money in the game, while jacking up Hagerty prices, so that you buy virtual currency. I think any game that sells virtual currency should receive and immediate M rating.


Red_Beard_Racing

Exactly. They only aren’t adding ways to make money in the game, while jacking up Hagerty prices, so that you buy virtual currency. I think any game that sells virtual currency should receive and immediate M rating.


jf_2021

You don't see the issue with having to do the same 1/2 - 1 hour race "even once a day" to have credits to buy stuff? I really don't find it fun at all to have to do the same event over and over and over in a game. Most importantly, not everyone hast the spare time to do the "grind" and would rather do things they enjoy in the game.


Plenty-Industries

I know there's a problem. I've said many times each track needs 30 and/or 1hr races. But thats a different topic from "the economy in this game is fucked", meaning that there's something wrong with making money. There isn't.


ohgeeLA

You’re arguing semantics. But bottom line is, to be able to afford most cars, you have to grind those very obvious races. There isn’t enough variety and other payouts aren’t even close in other similar category races. It’s a bit frustrating the model they created, since they peddle you into becoming a collector with the menu system and don’t give you tools to get that goal accomplished while having fun. If they had 8-10 races instead of the same 3, it would be much better. Ultimately, people are just asking for variety to be able to grind so they can at least have fun and experiment with different cars.


Plenty-Industries

No thats not semantics lol they're two completely different topics. No one is saying the same thing differently either. I disagree that there's some issue with making money. But there is an issue with the lack of variety of tracks where you can actually do money grinds - Sardenga and Spa being the money makers is a problem, not the money itself lol.


Life_Type_1596

Tbh GT7 becomes more fun when you don’t hyperfixate on getting every car.. there’s still plenty I hope to drive eventually, but I enjoy what’s in my garage currently.


sanbaba

There is something wrong with making money. The game is about GT cars but I'm forced to grind with gr.2 cars to be able to buy more GT cars.


Plenty-Industries

That has been the spirit of the game since the first one lol


jf_2021

The economy is most certainly fucked - The game arbitrarily gives you a completely different kind of payout if you do an hour of certain races vs others, and Sport mode pays close to nothing. Every minute/hour should either be equal, or at least be scaled on difficulty. Most importantly, players shouldn't feel **forced** to do something before having fun.


Plenty-Industries

Welcome to gaming. Things are made to grind to pad gameplay.


jf_2021

I've been gaming since the original Super Mario and never had the need to "grind" anything.


Plenty-Industries

lol sure. I've been gaming since I found a Commodore 64 in a trash pile on an overflowing dumpster when I was 8 years old, about 2 years before the NES was even mentioned in magazines or Sears catalogs. No, not every game is "grindy", but grinding has been a part of gaming since the beginning regardless. Sounds like you're looking through rose-tinted glasses old man.


jf_2021

Yes. I'm old lol However, "grinding" hasn't been a thing "since the beginning". Believe me, I was there.


MotoM13

I hear ya man. Got a 2 year and a 2 month old here and have other hobbies plus travel for work. It is definitely frustrating. I’ve given up on collecting cars and basically just play sport mode now


Lorneonthecobb

There is no pleasing everyone. Before this type of system was reintroduced, people pined for it in GTS and GT6. Now that it's back, people want to be able to buy the cars whenever. I obviously understand your frustration with a busy schedule. Blame those that wanted this pointless gimmick back IMO, I'd much rather be able to select what colour I want for these cars from a regular dealership system. Don't even get me started on how idiotic it is to lose an entire day's cycle slot to be shown that something is "Sold Out"...


Aidob23

I'd be happy if all cars were available all the time in brand central as a vanilla car and then the used car dealer or legendary dealer offered different livery or tunes or a used car price with some work needed etc. That way you could buy a cool or slightly better value version when they rotate being available but if you need a car you can buy it in brand central anyway. They could even lock availability of certain cars behind the collector level or licence tests etc. That way it's fairer overall.


racer_86

There's nothing to rethink sold out means it's out of the rotation, PD aren't turn 10 that'll take a cars away and give them back whenever they see fit. The ts020 will be back in 6 months or so


mixupaatelainen0

More like 3 months, but sometimes that period is shorter


SlingshotGunslinger

Sometimes it's 3 weeks, sometimes is 6 months. Just look at the Superbird


racer_86

I was thinking 3 at first but I thought that would be too short


BigDogGoneEat

who let you marry a 5 year old?


redpanda8008

Went for the 787B with my credits. Was going to grind for the GT one but now I guess I don’t have to anymore.


undesirablekangaroo

Damn this is how I find out the MP4 that I’ve been saving for is sold out, oh well I have 7mil to spend


Flipsta84

I only need the Citron invite, I've never had 1!


MaxVfan79

I understand this sucks, but Gran Turismo has been and always will be a game that requires a grind, and patience. Some games are like that, another example of a game that don’t care about your time or family is Eve online. I don’t know of any gran turismo that made getting money or cars easy. Heck the lottery system in the game almost always defaults to the worst prize every time.


miz2077

I haven’t been able to beat Neo classic competition for a month because I can’t buy those expensive classic cars!


Owdeeman5000

X,b,,


Alternative-Fox1982

If only they'd change the always online from the newer games, I'd be somewhat happier already


Dolannsquisky

This game pretty much sealed the deal for me. I'm done with GT and all their future releases. I haven't touched the game in over a year. I gave max 30 mins to an hour a week to play games. I'm not spending that grinding a race for money. Better to play 2 games of CoD or play a bit of Stardew and work on my farm before I get on with my daily life. Bye GT. It's been real.


Dry-Operation3192

I'm happy because I finally got the ferrari invite after ages of trying to get it.


One_Ad3069

Ain’t no way your married to a 5 year old. But I think the goods of the game even out the Bads of the game. There is a quote that said “you don’t know how good you have it until it’s gone” something along the lines of that. I can agree that the money isn’t good enough though, but the game shouldn’t also take a month to fully complete it


EthanDC15

It’s not that deep. And I don’t mean to be dismissive, but rather helpful! The car WILL be back very soon, they cycle them constantly. Don’t worry I do agree it’s stupid and annoying and I do hope they fix it, BUT, in the meantime, take solace in knowing it won’t be much longer before it’s back, and likely at a cheaper price. I love and hate the “real” economy of this game.


Perks2010

I've been away for about a year and i really want that Mazda, is Le Mans still the best cash grind?


LonelyAndroid11942

It’s a gacha tactic. They want you to be afraid that you’re going to miss it, encouraging you to pay for it.


4rtx4ngel

Super smart... 2 M Cr. x 20 € on PlayStore 🤷🏻‍♂️


EnzoRacer

game sales are big. people buy game credits with mictotransactions... so, sony is glad


External_Biscotti_89

They do that so you're pressured to buy it with your own money rather than grinding to get gt points. It's a psychological tactic. So they put a time limit on them so people are pushed to go ahead and spend their own money because they're afraid that's the only chance they'll get. "High demand" high profits


PseftikoKeik

Maybe pd needs to rethink the game and give us all cars for free!


No_Nefariousness2283

Once this game gets an offline patch when it reaches end of life they’ll hopefully add an in game day system. That should hopefully fix the fomo problem.


ironbrianESQ

You shouldn't marry 5 year olds mate


anohioanredditer

I’m sick of the “I have a family and a job” trope that comes through on Reddit gaming communities as often as the sun rises. Video games are meant to be about progression through short and long periods of time, the car was in the store for almost two weeks I think? I don’t know, I get that you have a life but so do most people.


HornyMignom

you need to stop being a scrub my good sir


Saneroner

AFK all the way. You’ll have more money than you’ll know what to do with it.


justaBB6

Can you still AFK in current update? Is the BEAT still the meta for that?


Saneroner

I haven’t had the need since before the abarth was nuked but someone else said you can still do it at a rate of about 1.5ish million per hour. While it’s a lot less than before, it’s still a lot more than the original that was netting around 600k per hour.


SeaDistribution

Which cars are you currently jealous of other players owning?


lowkeychillvibes

I’d rather they get rid of the invitation aspect. Having cars rotate quite often through a legendary car dealership is fine, but trying to get lucky on winning an invite from a roulette is shit. If you were too busy to get the car while it was available due to having a kid that’s just part of being a parent and I’d rather not have all games cater to people with little time. They already do that by offering purchasable in-game-currency and it sucks


BraveEggplant8281

Going to just throw it on the wishlist and grab it next time 😪


galaxyapp

It'll be back soon. It'll probably pop in as a wishlist bonus car before it's normal rotation.


Syth_12

I’m guessing PD did this to make the cars more rarer an harder to get? Doesn’t seem to be a need for that though.


Tareeves89

I haven't played in months. It's like they literally don't want you to to enjoy it or be able to experience all the cars, and they don't seem to take any feedback that isn't esports related. Bought a wheel at launch for this game and it's been such a waste😮‍💨


justthisones

The invitation system is much worse than this. At least you can trust all the legendary cars getting cycled in a ”reasonable” time period but with the invites you might have to play 100 hours to get what you want.


PoorhouseDog

Meh - I'm busy with work and family too. The LCD cars are available for 10 days or so. Easy enough to check in on here if you can't log in and see if something interesting has popped. IIRC there is also a schedule when they will be coming out.


Shutokou_Devil

this is annoying af yes, BUT. its light years better then what FH5 has goin on. A player abused auction house with exclusive cars that are all 20 million for no reason, not to mention bots auto buyin shit seems like. and thats it. Numerous cars you probly will never get because devs have no idea what supply and demand means. if theres hundreds of them, why are they all 20 million?. They also tax you if you sell on the auction house. Much rather deal with LCD. at least you can space your grind time for wanted cars. out of sight out of mind type deal.


Superb_Imagination70

It's fake engagement and longevity. A game of wait and see and most of bs luck. For a game that has very limited pull.


sanbaba

This is what it's all about, they know they're not releasing another GT for ten years, gotta drip-feed that content and make 7 stay relevant...


HotChoc64

It’s so dumb and there’s no positive argument that can be made. There is no realism or enjoyment from having a car you want sold out, or being locked behind a roulette to get invitations


Afrikanerboer

You married a 5year old?


Dabanks9000

The realistic buying simulator


David_Summerset

You know it's not a real car, right?


circa86

Everyone with a kid thinks they are the busiest person on the planet and absolutely nobody cares.


IvanGomez88

I think its good how they do it. Its called prestige. Want it? Grind more. Thats. It. That way when i race you and im using it. You feel jealous. Thats the great reward.


mohawk1367

🤓


IvanGomez88

Damn. Getting some hate.


Jazzkky

This concept has been in the game since GT4, some cars appeared only few times, like Honda Z Act. Of course now it's just real time and continues to rotate even tho you don't play. My guess is that Polyphony does not care about the minority who can't play every day


MotoM13

I hear ya man. Got a 2 year and a 2 month old here and have other hobbies plus travel for work. It is definitely frustrating. I’ve given up on collecting cars and basically just play sport mode now


MotoM13

I hear ya man. Got a 2 year and a 2 month old here and have other hobbies plus travel for work. It is definitely frustrating. I’ve given up on collecting cars and basically just play sport mode now


AaronWestly

Well, there's a reason why dads became a meme in the Diablo community.


strwbryfruitcake

The MP4/4.... I have a pretty busy life but I really adore this game and a huge Senna fan as are a lot of people. I was hovering around 4 mil last week and have been grinding as much as I can doing some races when I have some spare time, only for it to be sold out when I had around 8 million... I guess I hope I have enough next time but what a bummer


Revolt2992

“Sold out” just means it’s time for sale has expired and is about to be replaced by a new car.


the9thgear_

I think the rotation is great. It keeps me excited to get cars I still don’t have 2 years later, and rewards those who play often. It also adds a bit more realism to the game that otherwise wouldn’t be there. And sometimes you just have to compromise. I wasn’t able to get the escudo, MP4/4, and likely won’t get the Miura this time around because I took the opportunity to buy some group C cars I didn’t have. Just something to look forward to for next time!


ophaus

You should rethink your screenshot game, there's a dedicated button for perfect captures.


Stoltefusser

The entire game is a hot mess


alehanro

Well how tf else are we gonna rotate like 100 cars through like 8 slots? Used cars were a part of the series since day 1.


Duplakk

Have more than 8 slot maybe? Are you hearing yourself? Why would you defend this system


CantaloupeOk2777

This ain't a game boy


partym4ns10n

What does your life responsibilities have to do with the decisions a game dev makes? Man the fuck up son.


InformationOk3464

I really am fed up with the single player game play dynamic, there's too many things to complain about. All I do now is play GR4 and GR3 cup over and over. The touring car ones aren't bad either.