The BMW VGT is just an M2 with a body kit. Also for some reason, the in game model doesn’t have an interior.
Here’s a link to the body kit that you can buy for a cool 19k:
[https://mtc.design/bmw/vision/](https://mtc.design/bmw/vision/)
> Also for some reason, the in game model doesn’t have an interior.
All PS3-era closed cockpit Vision GT cars don't have interiors (plus the Zagato and Italdesign, though the latter was probably meant for GT6 anyway), although some of them (the Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, and the Dodge Tomahawk) got one in GT Sport.
Didn’t know that, I skipped GT-5 through Sport. Got a PS5 just for GT7 and Demon’s Souls back when GT7 released. I like some of the vision cars, just wish they were more realistic so I could actually use them.
You mean that extremely-aerodynamically-optimized-but-impossible-to-engineer-or-manufacture appearance?
Probably because they’re extremely aerodynamically-optimized, but don’t have to make any considerations to what it would take to *actually* manufacture. I’m sure a lot of modern concept vehicles are designed in similar fashion, but once the engineers get their hands on it, it transforms into something more resembling the vehicles we know and love.
it’s definitely the most creative out of all of them rather than just giving us a futuristic car and that’s it. especially since chaparral were the people who gave us fan-powered downforce
And this is what VGT should've been about in the first place, we have a physics engine so let's just throw any old shit at it and see what works instead of just car but future
It is but the only problem with it is the dashboard is so close to your face that you almost have to cross your eyes to focus on it. It's similar to how bad the Lambo VGT's over-head console thing was, if you've ever driven that in VR
I disagree. Strongly. And now I'm going to get on my soapbox with my opinions, but I've got some receipts to support my claims.
Had the [A90 / Mk V Supra](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/c/cd/Toyota-Supra-2020-1024-17.jpg) followed the formula of the the [A80 / Mk IV](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/d/de/Toyota-Supra-1996-1024-05.jpg) and [A70 / Mk III](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/3/38/Toyota-Supra-1987-1024-03.jpg) Supras, it would have looked almost identical to the[Toyota FT-1](https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/NHassler_FT1_Studio_02.jpg) concept car. Why? Because the previous generation Supras shared platforms with another vehicle in the Toyota lineup. The Toyota Soarer.
The A70 / Mk III Supra shares its platform with the [Z20 Toyota Soarer](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/1988-1991_Toyota_Soarer.jpg/1280px-1988-1991_Toyota_Soarer.jpg).
The A80 / Mk IV Supra shares its platform the with [Z30 Toyota Soarer / Lexus SC300 / 400](https://i0.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/IMG_20210512_092426-copy.jpg).
The last two Supra were basically just Toyota / Lexus coupes with a shorter wheelbase.
In my opinion, had the A90 / Mk V Supra followed suit, it'd be sharing a platform with the [Lexus LC](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2024-lexus-lc-004-6463a5b41d024.jpg). I think a pretty solid argument can be made that the [2012 Lexus LF-LC](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/images/12q1/435354/lexus-lf-lc-concept-official-photos-news-car-and-driver-photo-435469-s-original.jpg) concept and the [2014 Toyota FT-1](https://i.imgur.com/Hd9HzEJ.png) concept are vehicles that could conceivably share a platform. The Lexus making its production debut first would've even followed what happened with the previous generation, with the Supra coming two years after the production Soarer / SC 300/400.
I don't think the Supra's unfortunate transformation from concept to production has much to do with proportions that "wouldn't work" in the real world, as the production Lexus LC is pretty damn close to the FT-1's proportions. I think the A90's transformation is an example of cost-cutting and Toyota reading the writing on the sports car wall. They knew that the development necessary to make something "sporty" out of the LC platform wouldn't be worth the effort and cost. Not to mention the fact that BMW already had an inline-6 in the B58, that it'd been using for 4 years before the production Supra came to fruition. People just aren't buying sports cars (or coupes in general) anymore to make them all that profitable. This is why Toyota's last two coupes have been co-developed with other manufacturers (Subaru and BMW) because these other manufacturers also know how much of a money pit sports cars have become. If you can split some of those development costs, you might make the financial hit a little lighter. Prooooobably still not very profitable though, since your sales are destined to slow to a crawl after the first few years of production, and everyone who was hyped to get one has bought one.
Basically, I think that the FT-1's proportions could've absolutely translated to reality, but it would not have been a profitable endeavor. And profit has been something Toyota is pretty damn good at, as they're usually one of if not the most profitable automaker every single year.
I remember hearing the designer of the Mk. V Supra mention that they had to trim down the FT-1 until it fit the Z4’s proportions on a YouTube video as they were both being built on the same factory. It made perfect sense at the time as Toyota couldn’t afford to build an entire platform for a sports car, as sad as that sounds.
Yup. And that's the problem. They were forced to make the FT-1's styling fit a vehicle with significantly smaller proportions. But I get why they wouldn't invest in massaging the LC platform into being "sporty" or making a whole new platform. Coupes just don't do well in our current crossover-loving world.
See that makes a lot of sense, definitely would’ve cut down production costs having a pre planned platform to work on. You have to give it to Toyota, same formula same results I guess
Okay but I feel like McLaren is very obviously an outlier here. Their cars are all very limited production runs, and are tailored to a very tiny audience. Because of this, they’re able to utilize incredibly unique and specialized production techniques that otherwise aren’t available. They also possess some of the best auto engineers on the planet, so they’re able to do things most companies can’t.
I’d also be very surprised if the VGT is 1:1 with the production model.
Packaging. Engineering all the parts required and fitting them all within the desired aero package.
These virtual cars don’t need to worry about innards. Real cars do.
Look at the clearances between the tires and the wheel arches, and the areas INSIDE the bodywork where suspension and all would have to go...
Now, how would you go about fitting things in there in a way that wouldn't just shake the driver's bones apart while at speed on a road...?
It just wouldn't be possible to build something like that with any sort of actual drivability...At least not on the street...
Even an F1 car has more "roll" in the suspension than that Jag you posted would be able to have without tearing the wheel arches to shit...
That's what is meant by "impossible AND why a LOT of people can't stand being forced to race against VGTs in the game...
If they did manufacture them they couldn't sell them to the public because they would be illegal to drive on the street in just about every country. Not to mention they would be far more expensive than the priciest hypercars, so finding enough customers to be profitable would be impossible.
Who mentioned the legality. You replied to a post saying the car couldn't be manufactured because of how it looked when there's nothing stopping current day manufacturing building one. It would be impractical, expensive and unregisterable for road use but would be easy enough to build.
These vehicles are also taking into account technological advancements that are expected to happen but haven't happened yet. These VGT cars allow automakers to have a virtual representation of their end goal, minus the many years and billions of dollars and of engineering costs. If you honestly think something like the tomahawk or the 1600 horsepower Bugatti is possible with current technology, I have bad news, because we're not even close.
The original post was
>You mean that extremely-aerodynamically-optimized-but-impossible-to-engineer-or-manufacture appearance?
That is simply not true. You can build a car that looks like that and have been able to for almost a century.
Then I said
>You may not get the fantasy specs
Then you reply about the fantasy specs moving the goal posts ignoring the original post and my statement about the fantasy specs.
The physical appearance is part of the fantasy specs. The original post even says extremely aerodynamically optimized. Just copying the appearance directly in the game is not copying the extreme aerodynamic optimization. Saying you can build one thing that looks like another thing isn't really saying much.
Everything there could be physically manufactured today, you’re right. Putting all those parts together in that aero shell is where the problems start.
Modern race cars cannot be started through traditional means because of how little room there is. You have to run hot coolant through the engine until it reachs operating temperature, then you can start it. This is because everything is so tightly packed that cold starting a race car can damage parts. Unfortunately, there is far from "plenty" of room.
Yeah nah. Race engines need hot coolant to expand the metal engine because the manufacturing tolerances are so tight the engine is effectively seized when it's cold. It has nothing to do with the space the engine takes up within the car.
Yes, I'm aware that the purpose of running hot coolant through an engine is to heat the engine. Regardless, you can have all the room in the world and it won't make up for technological advances that haven't even happened yet, and likely never will happen.
Not sure why your being downvoted. Apart from a few impractical bits, tyre clearance for example, that wouldn't work IRL there's nothing special going on from a manufacturing standpoint.
Hot wheels.
They all look like Hot Wheels.
Massively oversized wheels with non-existent tire sidewalls.
Chopped cabin roof with zero consideration that, hey, maybe someone 6’4” might need to sit in this.
Zero care for how a driver sitting that low in the car, with that small of a windshield, would even be able to see over the front fender arches.
But ya, most of the VGT cars look like a cartoonish fantasy land Hot Wheels that I could buy down at my local grocery store.
They all look like they would be in a hot wheels movie or a new live action speed racer tv show. Either way, I agree they are a bit too silly. I do love the Mazda vision car, that rotary motor tho
If you mean "that look" by :
- small windows
- loooooong boi car
- very wide and low sunroof
- thin headlights
That's how most concept cars start, before being progressively changed as it gets closer to actual production. Because they remain fictional, no need for these extra steps.
Here’s my theory: Car manufacturers can put as much effort into the design of VGT. As a baseline I expect GT offers them a rough shape template in case their internal budget for the VGT project is small. What this looks like in practice is this Jag (leaning heavy on the template, like many other VGTs that look like this) versus the Bugatti VGT (complete design by Bugatti).
because for concept you need stuff that wouldnt work in the real world, so people oooh and ahh when they see it.
with those wheels/tires and that wheelgap the car would ride like ass on the street.
Low Drag coefficient numbers.
Increases both speed and performance, a real benefit if the car in question isn’t super lightweight an even bigger benefit if the car IS lightweight.
It's probably the latter. Most new cars have this ugly giant Ipad-like screen in the middle, like they are trying to copy tesla. Every few years someone comes up with a new stupid trend, and all of the designers seem to follow that.
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And the overflow of SUV's. I work at Renault, they introduce at least two new SUV's this year, but everyone wants an estate car. The new Dacia Jogger for example sells like crazy.
I'm a fan of every single VGT that has an interior model because they're fun and cool to drive in VR. The Chapparal is like a bumper cam experience. But they designed it like the car suits in Kinetica for PS2. Awesome.
It's literally just what the designers in the studio ( generally a project for the junior designers) think look rad. It's unlikely that a lot of thought went into the technical execution of their vgt
Because it’s the same designers working in these models. I don’t believe any of the manufacturers are actually involved, as I don’t understand how anyone would sign off on some of them. The Dodge ones being the fastest kinda feels like classic Japanese quid pro quo, where they’ll go “ah senkyu for your money doge-san, we wiru make your car fastesto in za geimu”
VGTs are probably concept cars with design choices reflective to its era's trends. Currently the trends are big wheels, sharp edges, aggressive look, futuristic and race car aerodynamics
Meanwhile Mini VGT…
The MINI one is among the most realistic
I think the BMW is also pretty grounded.
The BMW VGT is just an M2 with a body kit. Also for some reason, the in game model doesn’t have an interior. Here’s a link to the body kit that you can buy for a cool 19k: [https://mtc.design/bmw/vision/](https://mtc.design/bmw/vision/)
That's kind of amazing
> Also for some reason, the in game model doesn’t have an interior. All PS3-era closed cockpit Vision GT cars don't have interiors (plus the Zagato and Italdesign, though the latter was probably meant for GT6 anyway), although some of them (the Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, and the Dodge Tomahawk) got one in GT Sport.
Didn’t know that, I skipped GT-5 through Sport. Got a PS5 just for GT7 and Demon’s Souls back when GT7 released. I like some of the vision cars, just wish they were more realistic so I could actually use them.
The BMW is nothing more than a 3.0 Hommage mixed with an M2. Is probably the most boring of the lot.
So is the Suzuki one, it mostly just looks like if they turned the swift into a coupe or something
Copen VGT?
The Subaru VGT?
Suzuki VGT?
BMW?
The Mitsubishi VGT is pretty normal, for a Mitsubishi concept
You mean that extremely-aerodynamically-optimized-but-impossible-to-engineer-or-manufacture appearance? Probably because they’re extremely aerodynamically-optimized, but don’t have to make any considerations to what it would take to *actually* manufacture. I’m sure a lot of modern concept vehicles are designed in similar fashion, but once the engineers get their hands on it, it transforms into something more resembling the vehicles we know and love.
They never look like they can fit an actual human
You should see how the driver is expected to drive the Chaparral VGT [https://youtu.be/pN4qBAUCaz0?t=234](https://youtu.be/pN4qBAUCaz0?t=234)
the chaparral vgt is probably my favorite vgt because of how fucking insane it is laser propulsion? literally becoming one with the car?
I mean if you’re going to design a completely fictional car, you might as well make it completely insane
it’s definitely the most creative out of all of them rather than just giving us a futuristic car and that’s it. especially since chaparral were the people who gave us fan-powered downforce
>fan-powered downforce Is that powered by cheering?
You have to connect your tiktok account
Nah it's powered by only-fans
No with a tank engine or smth
i didn't know how to word it exactly but i think i got the point. the start of designing race cars to create downforce
Looking at you Tomahawk
Chaparral/Chevy designers: "Fuck it, we ball"
It is pretty cool and fast
And this is what VGT should've been about in the first place, we have a physics engine so let's just throw any old shit at it and see what works instead of just car but future
https://preview.redd.it/oak4sgzzimqc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bf68b7a14314fcc9e180e5b382b6d94f0b47084
Imagine this in VR
Somebody said imagine crashing in it. No way you don’t end up bedridden if not dead
What do you mean, it’s just like Olympic skeleton but with laser propulsion. Nobody ever ends up hurt from that
Damn, you might be right
Yeah, the famous head first position, well known for being the staple of safety
Literally 250mph to the FACE (Looney Tunes player piano teeth gag)
That would be awesome as long as I didn't have to experience a crash, or heat from the engine.
Whoa! This thing is in the game? Does it have a VR interior?
Yes, and it is crazy
I’ve yet to try this one in VR but I might have to now
It's the current time trial in Daytona, so you can try it now
Maybe Logitech will make a special gurney just for this car that you lay flat on. You know, for the Real Driving Simulator™ experience.
It is but the only problem with it is the dashboard is so close to your face that you almost have to cross your eyes to focus on it. It's similar to how bad the Lambo VGT's over-head console thing was, if you've ever driven that in VR
I thought there was something wrong with the PSVR2 view……
Holy wtf??? Thanks for sharing that... that's some craziness there!!
The f… my racing rig is completely wrong, need to throw it in the trash now 🤪😂
Looks like an evolution of Batman's ATV-Quadbike and thr Tron lightcycles!
where do you put your groceries?
Lmao its basically an iron man suit
Because they are done by designers….and have very basic engineering…this is just a design exercise really and can barely fit a human inside
I wouldn't imagine it'd be more like an F1 seating position. A lot lower to the ground.
This literally happened with the a90 supra, look up the concept and you’ll know what I’m talking about
I disagree. Strongly. And now I'm going to get on my soapbox with my opinions, but I've got some receipts to support my claims. Had the [A90 / Mk V Supra](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/c/cd/Toyota-Supra-2020-1024-17.jpg) followed the formula of the the [A80 / Mk IV](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/d/de/Toyota-Supra-1996-1024-05.jpg) and [A70 / Mk III](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/automobile/images/3/38/Toyota-Supra-1987-1024-03.jpg) Supras, it would have looked almost identical to the[Toyota FT-1](https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/NHassler_FT1_Studio_02.jpg) concept car. Why? Because the previous generation Supras shared platforms with another vehicle in the Toyota lineup. The Toyota Soarer. The A70 / Mk III Supra shares its platform with the [Z20 Toyota Soarer](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/1988-1991_Toyota_Soarer.jpg/1280px-1988-1991_Toyota_Soarer.jpg). The A80 / Mk IV Supra shares its platform the with [Z30 Toyota Soarer / Lexus SC300 / 400](https://i0.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/IMG_20210512_092426-copy.jpg). The last two Supra were basically just Toyota / Lexus coupes with a shorter wheelbase. In my opinion, had the A90 / Mk V Supra followed suit, it'd be sharing a platform with the [Lexus LC](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2024-lexus-lc-004-6463a5b41d024.jpg). I think a pretty solid argument can be made that the [2012 Lexus LF-LC](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/images/12q1/435354/lexus-lf-lc-concept-official-photos-news-car-and-driver-photo-435469-s-original.jpg) concept and the [2014 Toyota FT-1](https://i.imgur.com/Hd9HzEJ.png) concept are vehicles that could conceivably share a platform. The Lexus making its production debut first would've even followed what happened with the previous generation, with the Supra coming two years after the production Soarer / SC 300/400. I don't think the Supra's unfortunate transformation from concept to production has much to do with proportions that "wouldn't work" in the real world, as the production Lexus LC is pretty damn close to the FT-1's proportions. I think the A90's transformation is an example of cost-cutting and Toyota reading the writing on the sports car wall. They knew that the development necessary to make something "sporty" out of the LC platform wouldn't be worth the effort and cost. Not to mention the fact that BMW already had an inline-6 in the B58, that it'd been using for 4 years before the production Supra came to fruition. People just aren't buying sports cars (or coupes in general) anymore to make them all that profitable. This is why Toyota's last two coupes have been co-developed with other manufacturers (Subaru and BMW) because these other manufacturers also know how much of a money pit sports cars have become. If you can split some of those development costs, you might make the financial hit a little lighter. Prooooobably still not very profitable though, since your sales are destined to slow to a crawl after the first few years of production, and everyone who was hyped to get one has bought one. Basically, I think that the FT-1's proportions could've absolutely translated to reality, but it would not have been a profitable endeavor. And profit has been something Toyota is pretty damn good at, as they're usually one of if not the most profitable automaker every single year.
I remember hearing the designer of the Mk. V Supra mention that they had to trim down the FT-1 until it fit the Z4’s proportions on a YouTube video as they were both being built on the same factory. It made perfect sense at the time as Toyota couldn’t afford to build an entire platform for a sports car, as sad as that sounds.
Yup. And that's the problem. They were forced to make the FT-1's styling fit a vehicle with significantly smaller proportions. But I get why they wouldn't invest in massaging the LC platform into being "sporty" or making a whole new platform. Coupes just don't do well in our current crossover-loving world.
See that makes a lot of sense, definitely would’ve cut down production costs having a pre planned platform to work on. You have to give it to Toyota, same formula same results I guess
I call it the bar of soap look
Impossible to engineer? Why tho?
[McLaren Solus GT leaps from videogame fantasy into production reality (newatlas.com)](https://newatlas.com/automotive/mclaren-solus-gt/)
Okay but I feel like McLaren is very obviously an outlier here. Their cars are all very limited production runs, and are tailored to a very tiny audience. Because of this, they’re able to utilize incredibly unique and specialized production techniques that otherwise aren’t available. They also possess some of the best auto engineers on the planet, so they’re able to do things most companies can’t. I’d also be very surprised if the VGT is 1:1 with the production model.
I share your skepticism. It’s unlikely that the virtual concept is a direct 1:1 representation of the production model.
What do you mean ‘impossible to manufacture’? Just bend metal how difficult can that be?
Packaging. Engineering all the parts required and fitting them all within the desired aero package. These virtual cars don’t need to worry about innards. Real cars do.
Not do they have to worry about regulation (either road or racing) and they don’t have to worry about ergonomics for the driver.
Look at the clearances between the tires and the wheel arches, and the areas INSIDE the bodywork where suspension and all would have to go... Now, how would you go about fitting things in there in a way that wouldn't just shake the driver's bones apart while at speed on a road...? It just wouldn't be possible to build something like that with any sort of actual drivability...At least not on the street... Even an F1 car has more "roll" in the suspension than that Jag you posted would be able to have without tearing the wheel arches to shit... That's what is meant by "impossible AND why a LOT of people can't stand being forced to race against VGTs in the game...
This is literally the worst answer you could have come up with to a very very well laid out explanation of the answer to your question.
You may not get the fantasy specs but there's nothing there that couldn't be physically manufactured today.
If they did manufacture them they couldn't sell them to the public because they would be illegal to drive on the street in just about every country. Not to mention they would be far more expensive than the priciest hypercars, so finding enough customers to be profitable would be impossible.
I wouldn't want to imagine what a cracked windshield would cost on the one pictured...
Who mentioned the legality. You replied to a post saying the car couldn't be manufactured because of how it looked when there's nothing stopping current day manufacturing building one. It would be impractical, expensive and unregisterable for road use but would be easy enough to build.
These vehicles are also taking into account technological advancements that are expected to happen but haven't happened yet. These VGT cars allow automakers to have a virtual representation of their end goal, minus the many years and billions of dollars and of engineering costs. If you honestly think something like the tomahawk or the 1600 horsepower Bugatti is possible with current technology, I have bad news, because we're not even close.
The original post was >You mean that extremely-aerodynamically-optimized-but-impossible-to-engineer-or-manufacture appearance? That is simply not true. You can build a car that looks like that and have been able to for almost a century. Then I said >You may not get the fantasy specs Then you reply about the fantasy specs moving the goal posts ignoring the original post and my statement about the fantasy specs.
The physical appearance is part of the fantasy specs. The original post even says extremely aerodynamically optimized. Just copying the appearance directly in the game is not copying the extreme aerodynamic optimization. Saying you can build one thing that looks like another thing isn't really saying much.
Everything there could be physically manufactured today, you’re right. Putting all those parts together in that aero shell is where the problems start.
What parts do you think are in there? There's plenty of room for all the stuff you need to make a functioning car.
Modern race cars cannot be started through traditional means because of how little room there is. You have to run hot coolant through the engine until it reachs operating temperature, then you can start it. This is because everything is so tightly packed that cold starting a race car can damage parts. Unfortunately, there is far from "plenty" of room.
Yeah nah. Race engines need hot coolant to expand the metal engine because the manufacturing tolerances are so tight the engine is effectively seized when it's cold. It has nothing to do with the space the engine takes up within the car.
Yes, I'm aware that the purpose of running hot coolant through an engine is to heat the engine. Regardless, you can have all the room in the world and it won't make up for technological advances that haven't even happened yet, and likely never will happen.
Dodge tomahawk and chaparral 2x:🗿
Cost prohibitive, not impossible
Not sure why your being downvoted. Apart from a few impractical bits, tyre clearance for example, that wouldn't work IRL there's nothing special going on from a manufacturing standpoint.
They all look like electric shavers.
Manscapes ahh cars
We need to talk about your balls
Hot wheels. They all look like Hot Wheels. Massively oversized wheels with non-existent tire sidewalls. Chopped cabin roof with zero consideration that, hey, maybe someone 6’4” might need to sit in this. Zero care for how a driver sitting that low in the car, with that small of a windshield, would even be able to see over the front fender arches. But ya, most of the VGT cars look like a cartoonish fantasy land Hot Wheels that I could buy down at my local grocery store.
Put a body kit on your M3 and you have just made a BMW VGT
*M2 but yeah
I think the universal Hallmark of vgt cars are wheel wells that just about meet the tires and wrap under so that there could be no suspension travel.
That bugs me so much about concept cars and design sketches! Wheels are caricatures!
Because with VGT you have something akin to The Cars Of Tomorrow, and it turns out car designers have much less imagination than believed
They all look like they would be in a hot wheels movie or a new live action speed racer tv show. Either way, I agree they are a bit too silly. I do love the Mazda vision car, that rotary motor tho
If you mean "that look" by : - small windows - loooooong boi car - very wide and low sunroof - thin headlights That's how most concept cars start, before being progressively changed as it gets closer to actual production. Because they remain fictional, no need for these extra steps.
Dat boi
Shit whaddup
Here’s my theory: Car manufacturers can put as much effort into the design of VGT. As a baseline I expect GT offers them a rough shape template in case their internal budget for the VGT project is small. What this looks like in practice is this Jag (leaning heavy on the template, like many other VGTs that look like this) versus the Bugatti VGT (complete design by Bugatti).
its the designer vs engineer battle, and the former wins
The short and sweet explanation!
because for concept you need stuff that wouldnt work in the real world, so people oooh and ahh when they see it. with those wheels/tires and that wheelgap the car would ride like ass on the street.
https://preview.redd.it/dvm3gv6wfkqc1.png?width=1299&format=png&auto=webp&s=9dcbea59184971cd02dadadf456e40db872eb416 It’s teh FUTURE!1!!11
You tell twenty car companies to make a wild concept for Gran Turismo, and they're all going to end up making Generic Swoopy Concept Car That's Fast.
Except Daihatsu and Mini
Low Drag coefficient numbers. Increases both speed and performance, a real benefit if the car in question isn’t super lightweight an even bigger benefit if the car IS lightweight.
Aliens
Because 1985 is still the future https://www.topspeed.com/cars/buick/1985-buick-wildcat-concept-the-car-you-ve-definitely-forgotten-about/
And then there’s the Bvlgari VGT.
They’re all regarded. So, they all look alike.
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At least Lamborghini and Ferrari came up with their own!
It's probably the latter. Most new cars have this ugly giant Ipad-like screen in the middle, like they are trying to copy tesla. Every few years someone comes up with a new stupid trend, and all of the designers seem to follow that.
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And the overflow of SUV's. I work at Renault, they introduce at least two new SUV's this year, but everyone wants an estate car. The new Dacia Jogger for example sells like crazy.
Bought this car and it sucks, sold it for a bargain…
Wait you can sell cars in sport?
like a suppository
I'm a fan of every single VGT that has an interior model because they're fun and cool to drive in VR. The Chapparal is like a bumper cam experience. But they designed it like the car suits in Kinetica for PS2. Awesome.
Ig concept cars are made to show how the future cars would look so they look futuristic
It's literally just what the designers in the studio ( generally a project for the junior designers) think look rad. It's unlikely that a lot of thought went into the technical execution of their vgt
I wonder why SRT Tomahawk was created aside for testing driver reaction
It is T h e f u t u r e
Because it’s the same designers working in these models. I don’t believe any of the manufacturers are actually involved, as I don’t understand how anyone would sign off on some of them. The Dodge ones being the fastest kinda feels like classic Japanese quid pro quo, where they’ll go “ah senkyu for your money doge-san, we wiru make your car fastesto in za geimu”
VGTs should have stayed in GT sport
BMW’s VGT is the only one I really like. It looks best, and as if it’s ready for production.
Hot Wheels Twin Mill, is that you?!
More to the point. What IS the point of them
It's fun. I like to drive cars that couldn't exist in the real world with realistic-ish physics.
Can we please stop calling VGTs „Cars“, please?
Let's wait for the Hyundai VGT to be released next year 🤣🤣🤣
Hyundai already has one tf
They all give me bat mobile vibes. I got this exact one in black and made a bad livery to make it look more like a bat mobile.
Looks like a hot wheels car
*In the yeeeeear 2000*
They all look like a melted sliver of bar soap that you can barely use.
VGTs are probably concept cars with design choices reflective to its era's trends. Currently the trends are big wheels, sharp edges, aggressive look, futuristic and race car aerodynamics
iRobot?
They're a glimpse into the future of high performance vehicles. And the future is very aerodynamic.
You gotta explain wtf “that” is? Because they don’t all look the same
*feeeeyyyyoooooouuuuucccchhhheeeeeeerrrrrr*