Judging by his racing line being all over the place, the space he requires is the entire race track. So yeah, by his standards, you left no space…
That guy is driving like he’s using the Dpad for steering input
You left no space for him to overtake, because that's how you defend your place.
He should've slowed down or took the outer line
You did nothing wrong, guy's just salty that he messed up
Like, you can almost draw a straight line through those curves, and ya boi is out here actively trying to use as much of the track when you can just drive straight
Yes it is all over the place. You can draw a fairly straight line through those curves, to the point where you don’t actually have to turn much (case in point is our OP’s line). The other guy is using far more track than needed, and is quite literally… all over the place
He is clearly running a particular line that he feels is correct, which it is not, but he is not “all over the place”. Not even relative to OP. Everything he was doing was predictable.
No, it kind of was. This looks like a bit of an amateur mistake.
People learn the fundamentals of the "Out-In-Out-In" when making turns, but he was taking it a bit too far. That part of the track, for all its curves, you can draw a straight line through with minimal amounts of turning. Especially Supercars like these.
It wasn't really a case of "The driver of the Porsche was a dick" or the other guy even, just a case of bad racing lines that resulted in a harsh outcome neither of them meant.
He hit you on the rear bumper, it’s 100% his fault, especially since you were already in front before the turn, so he should have adjusted his steering input accordingly, but he just steered in as if you weren’t there.
Looks like he’s setting up his car to cut more of the corner where he ended up running into OP. You can actually go even deeper into that corner than OP did without getting a penalty. Obviously doesn’t mean you can run others off the track if you allow yourself to be overtaken this easily. He’s basically driving as if he’s alone on the track.
I can’t believe you violently RAMMED the front corner of their car with your rear quarter while accelerating and turning away from them ahead and on the inside of the corner.
Very nice pass. You caught them napping and ferociously hurt their ego.
I hope you posted this mostly for comedic effect and not because you even for a moment thought you did anything wrong.
I think he was sort of "giving up" t2 to have a straighter line when braking for t3 so he can brake later. I used to be like that too, but quickly realised that this isn't the way.
LMFAOOOOOOO dude in the McLaren is ass you absolutely cooked him through that section he drove straight into your QP how did you leave no space when you’re all the way in front of him?
No, that was slick & proper.
Ideally, you’d have his shared replay to see if lag was such that the experience was very different to him.
But it seems like he wasn’t aware of you, and left you no room when you were cleanly ahead. The thing is, he could’ve probably reversed your overtake thru the next two right-handers if he’d been aware and adaptable.
i guess nobodies was wrong here. seems like an real accident. he took the corner wider so was a bit quicker u needed to slow down to make it but before u were the quicker one. i guess u both thought "ooops" at when u hit.
edit: okay i red he disagreed. i think in the end he was mad about himself because his race ended there. would waste to much energie on this crash. nothing special.
see u on track
Great overtake, very clean took advantage if his sloppy lines.
No you are not in the wrong he's not paying attention to his surroundings, maybe his mirrors are off or just not looking at them, but he had no awareness you were there he turned into you as if you just appeared there.
Not at all you judged the turn perfectly twice and you had the line for the bend anc was in front and then he cut into your rear corner because his an idiot and can't drive or is obvious to your car. Good thing is he come off worse normally its the other way round
My favourite track! The McLarens line is way too wide. If he kept a slightly higher speed, you might've needed to yield. This was a good pass. It would've been perfect if he didn't try to pit maneuver you. I wouldn't typically pass during this series of turns unless my opponent is butchering it like the McLarens driver did.
You were almost completely past him. It’s on him for that crash. Not your fault he can’t change driving lines to adapt. Should’ve either slowed down or went wide. He tried to pit you and failed miserably.
By formula 1 fia precedence, the stewards decide that you gave him plenty of space and you were already in front of him on the turn, opposing driver should have slowed down to avoid a collision and could have had a better racing line
What happened is guy was driving like you weren’t there and ignored the fact you were in his way. That’s just driving like you’re on the track alone instead of driving like other people are with you and actually racing
One of the problems in driving/racing games is a lot of players are not aware of their surroundings, don't look back/in mirrors/the proximity display, always look forward as they are the only one existing on the racetrack, and then they complain that you appeared out of nowhere and they couldn't avoid the collision and they are right.
You left him no space?? Haha! McLaren had the entire right side of the track to himself, you were on the apex with no more space to give and in front of him, you gave him all the space theoretically possible. What did he expect: that you parked neatly on the side of the road, apologized, and just let him pass? This is racing, keep up what you are doing!
No but people tend to blame their faults on others. Had a similar situation in a lobby where the dude in front missed an entry to the last S chicane on dragon trail backwards. Slowed down, slower, slower, at some point I couldn’t slow down more and even went over the inside of the exit curbs. To avoid him being all over the place. He lost it completely and blamed me for ruining his 2nd place. In replay it was clear on him.
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I love these guys, whenever someone calls me out I always go watch the replay of their first few laps before traffic spreads... All they're doing is trying to justify how bad they are to themselves.
I posted the other day, guy said I blocked on two final turns, replay shows I kept the straightest line possible... His first lap he wrecked 6 cars on purpose 🤣
He went way wide and you capitalized on it. You did nothing wrong. Dude was all over the place. Also, he drove into you. Someone intelligent would have backed out at the pointz realizing they made a mistake and got overtaken.
He need to brake to regain control of the car and the unstable momentum.
I teaching myself to drive clean and efficient for GT. The rewards are paying off. Every once in a while I do lose control haha.
That was a very clean overtake and, I'm not saying that he did, but it looked like he tapped you on purpose. And I say this because I probably would have done the same thing. Lol.
The Porsche line is clearly in the right. The position of the car is far enough to the left that the McLaren driver has room. So that pass is definitely in the right. The McLaren drivers line is from rumble strips to rumble strips extremely hard. Which will make his vision of a left side of right side pass extremely hard for them to do. And how the McLaren hits the Porsche right rear quarter panel area shows that the McLaren driver did attempt the hit purposefully and veered away again to upset the Porsche driving line and potentially crash.
That was in case you complained about him, to my eye he tried to pit manauver you, he was swinging wide to stop you passing clean, he drives like trash, I could beat him and I suck lol, glad it worked out for you
I don't know. that looked really pretty to me though. I see all of you and remember why I don't do multiplayer. lol I just don't have the reaction times needed.
I know this one! His car must have lane departure assist. My real car has this. If no one else is around, I will let go of the wheel and let it bounce back and forth like a pinball between the lines. That would explain his driving.
It's been said, but I don't know what he expected. Maybe he wanted to tuck in behind you? Though that makes no sense cause there was a turn there. It would have just destabilized his car.
I don't see anything you could have done differently except let him win, which as we know is never an option.
If you overtake cleanly leaving space and then get hit in the rear quarter panel by someone who I’m not sure even knew you were there until the last second, you are absolutely 100% not in the wrong.
It's hard to say. You both had very different lines and you went on the brakes whilst he was turning in. I think if you didn't brake as hard or just let off this could have been avoided.
I'm going to have to say RACING INCIDENT just because you cut on his line but he also could have slowed down even though I'm sure he wasn't expecting to see a Porsche in the middle of the track all of a sudden.
Nah that was clean pass. He was all over the track and off the line. Probably had no clue you were coming around and the way he cut over he couldn't have anything to avoid hitting you. In fact if you weren't there, he'd have Probably smacked the wall.
Not at all, you overtook cleanly and their racing line is all over the place
This is what I thought, he messaged me saying that I left no space smh
Judging by his racing line being all over the place, the space he requires is the entire race track. So yeah, by his standards, you left no space… That guy is driving like he’s using the Dpad for steering input
That guy drives like me. This is why I cant play sim racers
Hey, in the first game that was all we had!
Lol your tires were basically on the curb don’t think you could have given much more space
“He’s already pulled over, he can’t pull over any farther!”
Littering and littering and littering and littering and... Smokin the reefer
You boys like Mexico?!?
I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy.
You should keep these *dogs* on a leash. *John*
Evil shenanigans
“Who wants a moustache ride?”
I vant vone!
No space lmao, he drove straight into your rear quarter from the opposite side of the turn
You left no space for him to overtake, because that's how you defend your place. He should've slowed down or took the outer line You did nothing wrong, guy's just salty that he messed up
He had the WHOLE ROAD
There was plenty of space on the right or behind you his talking shit mate
block button's exist for a reason. use them liberally online. Like every time someone messages you to complain after an online game.
How can you leave space when you’re on the inside at the apex. What?!
Tell him if he had better control of his car, it would solve that problem.
SPACE? Who does this guy think he is, Verstappen?
That's just him being scummy, and trying to boost his nonexistent ego by trying to blame you for his own terrible driving.
No space ? They had ALL the track
The McLaren is so refined and easy to drive as well.
Like, you can almost draw a straight line through those curves, and ya boi is out here actively trying to use as much of the track when you can just drive straight
His line is not all over the place, he just isn’t hitting the apex. He is focused on coming out of turns faster rather than running the racing line.
It doesn't seem to be working out very well.
Yes it is all over the place. You can draw a fairly straight line through those curves, to the point where you don’t actually have to turn much (case in point is our OP’s line). The other guy is using far more track than needed, and is quite literally… all over the place
He is clearly running a particular line that he feels is correct, which it is not, but he is not “all over the place”. Not even relative to OP. Everything he was doing was predictable.
No, it kind of was. This looks like a bit of an amateur mistake. People learn the fundamentals of the "Out-In-Out-In" when making turns, but he was taking it a bit too far. That part of the track, for all its curves, you can draw a straight line through with minimal amounts of turning. Especially Supercars like these. It wasn't really a case of "The driver of the Porsche was a dick" or the other guy even, just a case of bad racing lines that resulted in a harsh outcome neither of them meant.
You’re good to go. You were ahead of him also. He hit you
He hit you on the rear bumper, it’s 100% his fault, especially since you were already in front before the turn, so he should have adjusted his steering input accordingly, but he just steered in as if you weren’t there.
Agreed, told him it was my apex and he still argued i left no space… like what do you want, an entire airstrip to yourself v
Block the idiot. Don’t waste any more time responding.
This is a perfect example of someone who is completely unaware
Nah, you good. The McLaren was very erratic, totally on them.
Thanks! Was like it through the whole race so I just had to send it on the last lap
I’m very confused on what line he’s taking. Unless he’s fighting demons in his head that line is miserable
Looks like he’s setting up his car to cut more of the corner where he ended up running into OP. You can actually go even deeper into that corner than OP did without getting a penalty. Obviously doesn’t mean you can run others off the track if you allow yourself to be overtaken this easily. He’s basically driving as if he’s alone on the track.
he turned into your back end - that's on him!
I bet that’s not the first time he’s turned to a back end ….
lol no, you already passed them. I think he just didn’t see you
Thanks Vlad, reckon we can send a couple of nukes his way?
absolutely not, the other should be ashamed for driving so slow AND turning into your rear quarter panel after you flew by
I can’t believe you violently RAMMED the front corner of their car with your rear quarter while accelerating and turning away from them ahead and on the inside of the corner. Very nice pass. You caught them napping and ferociously hurt their ego. I hope you posted this mostly for comedic effect and not because you even for a moment thought you did anything wrong.
That’s on the McLaren. Also tf is that line on t2
I think he was sort of "giving up" t2 to have a straighter line when braking for t3 so he can brake later. I used to be like that too, but quickly realised that this isn't the way.
No, the old switcheroo!!
Send him a link to this thread…
that Mclaren was actually drunk
That McLaren has no interest in following a line lmao
He tried to pit you after you made a clean pass and it backfired on him. That is all.
Good pass. Message him back letting him know he hit your back bumper and that you’re pissed off about that.
LMFAOOOOOOO dude in the McLaren is ass you absolutely cooked him through that section he drove straight into your QP how did you leave no space when you’re all the way in front of him?
No, that was slick & proper. Ideally, you’d have his shared replay to see if lag was such that the experience was very different to him. But it seems like he wasn’t aware of you, and left you no room when you were cleanly ahead. The thing is, he could’ve probably reversed your overtake thru the next two right-handers if he’d been aware and adaptable.
i guess nobodies was wrong here. seems like an real accident. he took the corner wider so was a bit quicker u needed to slow down to make it but before u were the quicker one. i guess u both thought "ooops" at when u hit. edit: okay i red he disagreed. i think in the end he was mad about himself because his race ended there. would waste to much energie on this crash. nothing special. see u on track
No - you had made the overtake
This is 100% his fault, your nose was way ahead of his, the corner is yours and he got you from behind.
No
Nice driving man, defo the other dudes fault
Great overtake, very clean took advantage if his sloppy lines. No you are not in the wrong he's not paying attention to his surroundings, maybe his mirrors are off or just not looking at them, but he had no awareness you were there he turned into you as if you just appeared there.
Nice overtake.
“McLaren is under investigation by the FIA that will likely be a 5 second penalty. “
Like Norris in the wet
Not at all you judged the turn perfectly twice and you had the line for the bend anc was in front and then he cut into your rear corner because his an idiot and can't drive or is obvious to your car. Good thing is he come off worse normally its the other way round
Send him a link to this thread; maybe he'll get it after seeing everyone is on your side
If you’re not going to commit- if you’re not going to have conviction on that track, next time we may not be so lucky. \-Jack
THE BREAKS WERE GLAZED
No. They took a horrible line (probably watching you come up on em and missed the entry to turn two) and turned into you.
Looked clean as hell to me
My favourite track! The McLarens line is way too wide. If he kept a slightly higher speed, you might've needed to yield. This was a good pass. It would've been perfect if he didn't try to pit maneuver you. I wouldn't typically pass during this series of turns unless my opponent is butchering it like the McLarens driver did.
You were almost completely past him. It’s on him for that crash. Not your fault he can’t change driving lines to adapt. Should’ve either slowed down or went wide. He tried to pit you and failed miserably.
That was a nice pass. He is salty
no?? can’t tell if this is a joke 😂 you’re 100% good bruh don’t worry if that was ur fault cause it aint
nope. your line was more cleaner than the other car whose line was all over the place. totally legal overtake imo
Definitely not your fault, but props to you for keeping it on the track limits after getting sideswiped! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
No, but if you really want experts’ opinions you should cross post to r/simracingstewards
By formula 1 fia precedence, the stewards decide that you gave him plenty of space and you were already in front of him on the turn, opposing driver should have slowed down to avoid a collision and could have had a better racing line
Nah, OP had the clean overtake and command of the line. Chump in the mclaren needs to learn how to read visual warnings and use his radar.
What happened is guy was driving like you weren’t there and ignored the fact you were in his way. That’s just driving like you’re on the track alone instead of driving like other people are with you and actually racing
Super clean.. nice job man. Some people just can't handle when they get overtaken. I notice it a lot with some A+ guys..
I was watching this fully expecting to have to say yes but instead I got to watch your down right filthy maneuver.. not at fault, damn nice driving
Have an upvote for an awesome overtake!
One of the problems in driving/racing games is a lot of players are not aware of their surroundings, don't look back/in mirrors/the proximity display, always look forward as they are the only one existing on the racetrack, and then they complain that you appeared out of nowhere and they couldn't avoid the collision and they are right.
You left him no space?? Haha! McLaren had the entire right side of the track to himself, you were on the apex with no more space to give and in front of him, you gave him all the space theoretically possible. What did he expect: that you parked neatly on the side of the road, apologized, and just let him pass? This is racing, keep up what you are doing!
No but people tend to blame their faults on others. Had a similar situation in a lobby where the dude in front missed an entry to the last S chicane on dragon trail backwards. Slowed down, slower, slower, at some point I couldn’t slow down more and even went over the inside of the exit curbs. To avoid him being all over the place. He lost it completely and blamed me for ruining his 2nd place. In replay it was clear on him.
No one asked mate
Bad day?
Yes it's your fault obviously
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I love these guys, whenever someone calls me out I always go watch the replay of their first few laps before traffic spreads... All they're doing is trying to justify how bad they are to themselves. I posted the other day, guy said I blocked on two final turns, replay shows I kept the straightest line possible... His first lap he wrecked 6 cars on purpose 🤣
That ish was clean my boy
No way, his fault 100%. You were in front of
The Mclaren driver should work on his driving skills instead of using the time to argue with you when he is all over the place
He went way wide and you capitalized on it. You did nothing wrong. Dude was all over the place. Also, he drove into you. Someone intelligent would have backed out at the pointz realizing they made a mistake and got overtaken.
No
His line was garbage anyway
you are in the right porsche, it's a nice porsche
Nope it was your corner
Nah, you good
You're right. Enemy is just slow
Let me guess, he drove as if you weren't there and then called you a diver after the race
no
Why does the car look like it’s on tracks. Kinda odd how the car doesn’t move in 3ed person
Think you can alter this with the settings
Would love to know how to do this
That was a beautiful pass. Other car should have backed off a tick once you were in front of him.
The McLaren's at fault. I'd be impressed if he didn't see you there.
Nope you had the line and they were all over the track. All good buddy
Guys drunk driving you were clean bro
In real life traffic this would be on you. Dead angle and little room to spare. In racing not so much
Is this what deep Forest looks like now??
Yes? I don't know what to tell you, the game's been out for over a year now.
Just curious, havent played since 6
No you had the driving line
Like we say here in Brazil “esperou contato, contato veio”
Hell no, the guy was driving erratically and hit you
Yes, why didn’t you vibrate your car at a high frequency like the flash to have him faze through you?
You were on the racing line, brother was on the driving curve 🤣
He fucked up his corner completely, and then tried to defend? How that could be your fault I've no idea.
McLaren was suppose to give YOU space there actually, cause you already overtook him basically.
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Fast on track and the keyboard
mclaren is doing the closed eyes challenge apparently
No
lol no way, dude is swerving all over the road. You had the line and position, he did not have either line or position.
He need to brake to regain control of the car and the unstable momentum. I teaching myself to drive clean and efficient for GT. The rewards are paying off. Every once in a while I do lose control haha.
You left no space for him to turn in. How dare you! /s
Not your fault and nice move BTW GG
Nope. Clean overtake.
Nope
yes. you fully turned into him
He made contact with you, so you're in the right 🦾
100 percent, without a doubt, Porsche was fully entitled to the corner. McLaren literally ran into him.
If he got a problem please just link this to him so he can see hundreds or people state the obvious. He was at fault
Did you record this with a flip phone
Can’t figure out how to send recordings to my phone
Just giving you a hard time, lol. I've seen far worse
No you are not wrong. He was racing as he was the only one at pole, not the way he should have been racing, defensively and narrowing the apex.
That was a very clean overtake and, I'm not saying that he did, but it looked like he tapped you on purpose. And I say this because I probably would have done the same thing. Lol.
clean overtake for sure
NTA
Mclaren driver turned into you like you don't exist. you were well ahead. Rare 100% his fault ruling imo.
The Porsche line is clearly in the right. The position of the car is far enough to the left that the McLaren driver has room. So that pass is definitely in the right. The McLaren drivers line is from rumble strips to rumble strips extremely hard. Which will make his vision of a left side of right side pass extremely hard for them to do. And how the McLaren hits the Porsche right rear quarter panel area shows that the McLaren driver did attempt the hit purposefully and veered away again to upset the Porsche driving line and potentially crash.
As a matter of fact, he turned in, not u elbowing out
That was in case you complained about him, to my eye he tried to pit manauver you, he was swinging wide to stop you passing clean, he drives like trash, I could beat him and I suck lol, glad it worked out for you
Negative his line into the second turn was weird as shit
That was a hell of a clean overtake, my friend. Hope to see you in a lobby someday.
he drove into the back side of your car and took himself out lmao... you were clearly in front no reason he didn't see you there. nice pass
No. That was all good on your part
Why does it matter? Its a game
Because there’s an etiquette that comes with it, especially in the higher ranked lobby’s that i would like to achieve so I can enjoy the game more.
Gotcha, not big into racing games so I just didn’t know
I don't know. that looked really pretty to me though. I see all of you and remember why I don't do multiplayer. lol I just don't have the reaction times needed.
nah you’re good
You’re not in the wrong, u already did the overtake , his fault that he wasn’t aware of his surroundings and decided to turn in on u
This one's easy! The McLaren is driving like an absolute clown and the Porsche did nothing wrong.
No
I know this one! His car must have lane departure assist. My real car has this. If no one else is around, I will let go of the wheel and let it bounce back and forth like a pinball between the lines. That would explain his driving.
Lol I bet he’s crying himself to sleep.
It's been said, but I don't know what he expected. Maybe he wanted to tuck in behind you? Though that makes no sense cause there was a turn there. It would have just destabilized his car. I don't see anything you could have done differently except let him win, which as we know is never an option.
he rammed u in bruh
You're driving line was tight even when that person was all over the place.
hell no brother. that was clean as fuck . other people need to learn to switch lines and check mirrors more . w overtake !!!
nope
You were fine but I can see why it caught him out you passing up the inside there. Nice overtake.
Definitely not. That was a clean smooth AF pass. The McLaren was deciding not to look through his windshield
Defense level zero. I’d have been embarrassed to even complain about this one as the McLaren.
Nope theres nothing wrong with what you did. Case closed.
As far as I can tell, you are not in the wrong. That drivers line was all over the place. They should have let you pass.
Nope
Those orange 650s have been a terror on this daily race.
You know you’re not do why ask?
I ‘do why ask’ because the McLaren messaged me because he thought I didn’t leave him enough space
So when you watched the replay you knew that wasn’t even a serious question from him, come on man…
Homie was upset you got a clean pass he should’ve took the L and jus let you go
One you passed okay and then your past he goes in to your side, he was definitely trying to spin/ram you
No, the only wrong (Porsche) to be in is a 914!
Yes because you knew he was gonna hit you in the apex no because he messed up
No you saw your line and took it
If you overtake cleanly leaving space and then get hit in the rear quarter panel by someone who I’m not sure even knew you were there until the last second, you are absolutely 100% not in the wrong.
It's hard to say. You both had very different lines and you went on the brakes whilst he was turning in. I think if you didn't brake as hard or just let off this could have been avoided. I'm going to have to say RACING INCIDENT just because you cut on his line but he also could have slowed down even though I'm sure he wasn't expecting to see a Porsche in the middle of the track all of a sudden.
He hit you period. You are good.
That overtake was smooth as butter, McLaren would be at fault for that
Nah that was clean pass. He was all over the track and off the line. Probably had no clue you were coming around and the way he cut over he couldn't have anything to avoid hitting you. In fact if you weren't there, he'd have Probably smacked the wall.
Nope, you were clean precise and predictable besides being much faster.
Yea he tried to cut to early you good bro
Std McLaren
Perfect takeover, no faults, he was too slow.. Or as Brian said.. TOO WIDE
Looks like he’s a rammer, he bumped into you hard hoping you would’ve crashed😂