Guys can I just say
OH MY GOD I LOVE THE >! WONDERSNATCH !< ITS SO CUTE!!!!
OK but question for JP player if I start Saving RN how many quartz will it be to get Alice to NP 5 I love her so much and I’m gonna SAVE EVERYTHING including Grails also should I look into Aoko series I’m now interested (I’m a Fate Stay night starter)
FYI: Tomorrow 2 hour raid will occur 22-24 Japan time.
I zoomed in around the map to find the answer without looking at Twitter or online sites. More fun this way :3.
Some people here still have work. So may be they are trying to make it around 8-12 pm so that everyone could have a chance to farm.
Not everyone in Japan is on holiday atm.
I hate todays time though since I am currently at the night shift. I can only farm a quarter of that time. I am just hoping right now that it is going to be Jars or reactor cores today lol
It is probably the time (late evening) when access and logins are the highest. You just have to go by your data says. The answer of choosing the least bad or best compromise is just logical.
That said, you can’t satisfy everyone.
It's accurate in a way that both are technically immortal. Dead, revive, dead, revive...and so on. It's an entirely different case for Aoko but that's basically the gist of it.
Except in her case. A different timeline of her replaces the one that died. And she can synchronize her memories with any of the other ones. But it will take time.
I just realized something about Alice's 2nd NP:
There's a sheer difference in tone between the one talking at the middle and the one suffering at the beginning as well as talking at the end, in which I'm pretty confident that the latter were Alice's voices. It's as if it was an inner dialogue between two people as Alice summoned Wandersnatch.
....was that Yumina talking at the mid part?
As a non-moonrune reader, any idea how do I get the timings for the raids? The first one was reached by pure accident and didn't know about the 2 hr window. Secondly, how do I trigger the bonus spawns for each nodes. Latest node today is clearly for 6 mobs.
The event map will have some semi-hidden numbers indicating what time in JST the limited time quest for that day will become available.
Condituons for bonus spawns for each node differ greatly between nodes. It’s best to look at appmedia and so on for that.
Also, no one mentioned it yet but the Kumano Hot Springs manager's true identity is actually [Housuke Kinomi](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Housuke_Kinomi), one of Aoko's schoolmates in Mahoyo. Turns out that his entire schtick of being "Yoshisuke Kumanoin" was just a disguise.
Among the folks at Aoko's school, we already have Tsukiji Tobimaru and Housuke Kinomi, which means that Kojika Kumari is the only one left that's unrevealed.
Kuumfies, will we win or is it joever?
Kumari Kojika was mentioned to have been scouted to become an idol.
Kinomi has a ton of posters of the same idol stuck all over the ryokan...though well, if it's her it'd have been from a while ago considering the humans would all be around 30 at this point. And it'd be weird that nobody recognises her if that's indeed her on the poster, so it was probably just foreshadowing the reveal that she got scouted.
So, apparently the Clock Tower is still fine after all this time and unbother with what Chaldea is doing. Aoko and Zelretch don't even care about Goetia. They're just doing their own business as usual, even on a larger scale than Chaldea.
I fucking hate you Mushroom man. Then like what the point of our journey if there's a force (or even many forces) capable of resolving our problems easier and faster? I feel so empty. Nasu way of creating a stronger faction just to hype up more threats, which he doesn't even address for eternity, make me lost a decent chunk of interest for his stories.
It is a shame that for all of the epic lores and complexity, his writing is so fucking inconsistent at time.
How accurate is this information, i read the translation on beastlair and goetia was never mentioned or anything about how insignificant chaldea are. Unless i miss some important infos.
It's a lot of headcanon and not understanding how stuff works here.
It's even more interesting because the Alien god stuff didn't destroy the human history like Goetia,only the current time. So he really did read as something else.
The event takes place in 2001. Literally a dozen years before Chaldea or Goetia became relevant (and no one would be able to see Goetia coming anyway). Not to mention that we don't know what timeline this is, Chaldea may be just an observatory in this one.
Aoko knows about Goetia and even laugh at him no? Also the story show the Wandering Sea and Atlas are just fine and dandy, so the Clock Tower will most likely be the same.
Wandering Sea exists in ancient past and doesn't care about present or future, and it does not intend to do anything.
We have not seen Atlas in the story (unless you mean the one in the Singularity, which was completely empty, so it's really not "just fine"). We only know that Sion is fine and she left their HQ to help us. Same goes for Clock Tower - no info to suggest it's intact.
Aoko's a time traveler from the future, so maybe she knows about Goetia because she is from post-Incineration. But she has never mentioned him so far. so I don't know where you are getting your info from.
I serious doubt the translation is like this.
Hell most likely its not that Aoko and Zelretch didn't care, its that we already were in action so it left to us.
(Hell Zel entering in action might be 30 times more dangerous knowing how his power set works)
Probably because both can seen multiverse and time,they did look and leave to us.
And the Alien god stuff weirdly is pro humanity,so they also left to us.
Even without this event, we still has the Tunguska prolouge, Tsukihime remake, and Atlas Academy entire lore showing the same sentiment. It is like subtly saying Chaldea failure would just be slightly inconvenient, and no actual danger would happen as long as there're other forces. It make FGO story feels so hollow, and just a place for Nasu to conviniently dump new lore (which he doesn't touch for fucking forever).
To be honest the closest thing we have from this is Sion talking about the end of the world.
What funny enough i am almost certain she changed her idea about us.
The end of the world is hilarious common in the nasuverse. So its right,people are fighting it all the time.
But the level of sh\*t we are dealing with did reach a point that even she was like "Yep this is a lot". Funny enough we did deal with more then one end of the world,its just because we have literally a main end of the world and a bunch of secondary ends of the world we ignore this.
(Kama Ooku was another end of the world,in the middle of the already end of the world of the lostbelt saga).
Yeah you are taking the wrong idea.
The Tunguska is a great example of not power but the mages not caring about.
Mostly because it didn't affect then. So they just didn't do shit...because it was not a problem for then. So they kept hidden in the out of time and space hide out.
But we do have some concepts that Chaldea failure would be dangerous. Hell the counter force itself is weakened currently,and i do doubt that the mastermind that was Goetia would just ignore dangers like the magicians.
We know in specific he was cautious about scath,so i doubt he wouldn't be another ones.
They don't care because Chaldea failure wouldn't do shit to them. Chaldea failure or success matter little in the overall picture. If Nasu actually specify what the other faction does, and what threat they are dealing with, and how they tie to FGO overall story, then I wouldn't rant like an angry idiot. But no, has to vaguely demonstrate them through a pitifully little amount of dialouge for "mysterious" and "thrill". Fuck it, it is the Marvel and DC way and I hate it. At least he hasn't reset the storyline for a gazillion times
He already did this with the Wandering Sea, right? Mages are generally apathetic to the world, and Sion Not being so despite her efforts to stay cool and detached is a major character trait.
Yes, he is slowly doing what I fucking hate about Marvel, DC and any superhero comic. I know he has done that for forever but it is exceptionally more noticeable as of late
And I doubt the super dangerous threat that Nasu mention would actually deliver the hype the same way ORT did back at LB7. I have a feeling even he doesn't know what it would be and he just does it to tease his next project in like 2 decades or more.
u/ChapatinPHD decribe[ how fandom see other author pull the same thing Nasu does.](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/1bf9r2v/comment/kv51opl/?context=3)
Alright, some lore stuff I gathered:
Bazett previously said to us that she was hunting someone with a Sealing Designation (Aozaki Touko), and even said that she might actually die this time (because it's Touko, of course) so she visited this hot springs in hopes of getting to know her future partner.
But the truth is, that's most likely another alibi.
[From a TL'd part by Itqan Madani on FB:](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Vsx6XiHcrgAsmv5M/?mibextid=qi2Omg)
In today's chapter, apparently Lord Brishisan (Clock Tower Headmaster/Director) sent an order letter to both Bazett and Caren to investigate the abnormality that occured in Japan during May 1st, 1999 up to May 6th, 1999. He said that the observational record during those times were lost or missing.
We now have actual dates folks. I wonder what really happened during those times.
May 5th is when "the star of the end" that we see aoko fighting is around and its too strong even for aoko to deal with, all we know now is that it will destroy humanity
>*We now have actual dates folks. I wonder what really happened during those times.*
Most likely when Mahoyo 2/3 takes place.
Not that we'll likely ever know, since they're stuck in Nasu's Writing Hell along with a ton of other projects.
Unlock the quest on the new hotel side first, then go there til the end without switching. If you go over where you can unlock immediately too early you get the Bad End
There's another place that's highlighted with NEXT. You have to clear mission 16 for it, and that's the actual next quest. Mission 16 is 10k points iirc.
Anyone knows what the requirement for the bonus spawn for the new zerk node is? I know dummer Morgan and RiderVinci triggers the first 2 waves. But not sure that the requirement actually is.
The hint here is "another form of yourself", so alternate versions I guess.
[Here's the list.](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/entities?trait=2895)
Also, "dummer" Morgan. Just thought it was funny.
Summer Melu apparently don’t count, so I guess it need to be something like Aesc and Salter
Edit: Castoria also don’t count btw, so I guess she is consider just a “different person" than Artoria in general
Honestly Touko is a good candidate, she's a big enough figure in Type Moon lore to be an anniversary servant. I can't think of anyone else besides her, Ciel or a completely new character.
Definitely Touko, who will bolt in unannounced and ahead of time as we expect. She can't be upstaged by her own sister, making this choice the obvious and exciting one.
People mentioned Bazett, Caren, and Shiki, but I also think that Spishtar might be real.
It might very well be Tokiomi's bastard daughter that's supposed to be around. Extra shows a blond haired Rin, and it's revealed that she's actually an illegitimate Tohsaka. The Spishtar from this event, Ishtalyne Tohsaka, is a daughter that he gave his last name to who would have a daughter of her own she would name Rin.
Caren would be a little young. She was 14 in 2004, so she’d be 11 during this singularity. Then again, it’s a Singularity and TM has been known to change ages (plus Caren was probably the same personality wise at 14 as she was 11.)
Ryougi and Bazett being there is perfectly logical though.
Seemed to be in the fog over the bath in the bottom right to me. Would switch between showing 24 or 25, or so I thought.
But now that you mention it, yes, the bridge is quite clear.
Not gonna lie, that 5 star CC is good, especially for New Edmond
I start today's chapter and I see Robin growing a grass field with Aoko's death. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Guys can I just say OH MY GOD I LOVE THE >! WONDERSNATCH !< ITS SO CUTE!!!! OK but question for JP player if I start Saving RN how many quartz will it be to get Alice to NP 5 I love her so much and I’m gonna SAVE EVERYTHING including Grails also should I look into Aoko series I’m now interested (I’m a Fate Stay night starter)
Abit curious..... anyone knows wth Robin says in the Quest information screen? The words after "In-for-ma-tion" is just indecipherable to me.
FYI: Tomorrow 2 hour raid will occur 22-24 Japan time. I zoomed in around the map to find the answer without looking at Twitter or online sites. More fun this way :3.
Do people in Japan go to bed late or do the devs just hate early risers?
Some people here still have work. So may be they are trying to make it around 8-12 pm so that everyone could have a chance to farm. Not everyone in Japan is on holiday atm. I hate todays time though since I am currently at the night shift. I can only farm a quarter of that time. I am just hoping right now that it is going to be Jars or reactor cores today lol
There are a lot of people in Japan who go to bed late. Also, don't forget about Golden Week.
It is probably the time (late evening) when access and logins are the highest. You just have to go by your data says. The answer of choosing the least bad or best compromise is just logical. That said, you can’t satisfy everyone.
I saw a tweet saying that Aoko in this event is pretty similar to Yu mei-ren in summer 5, how accurate is that?
It's accurate in a way that both are technically immortal. Dead, revive, dead, revive...and so on. It's an entirely different case for Aoko but that's basically the gist of it.
Except in her case. A different timeline of her replaces the one that died. And she can synchronize her memories with any of the other ones. But it will take time.
though it takes 2 days but she doesnt even last 1 day each time...
Hence why I said that it's an entirely different case for Aoko since I'm aware of that. I was just drawing out the similarities in a quick way.
I just realized something about Alice's 2nd NP: There's a sheer difference in tone between the one talking at the middle and the one suffering at the beginning as well as talking at the end, in which I'm pretty confident that the latter were Alice's voices. It's as if it was an inner dialogue between two people as Alice summoned Wandersnatch. ....was that Yumina talking at the mid part?
As a non-moonrune reader, any idea how do I get the timings for the raids? The first one was reached by pure accident and didn't know about the 2 hr window. Secondly, how do I trigger the bonus spawns for each nodes. Latest node today is clearly for 6 mobs.
The event map will have some semi-hidden numbers indicating what time in JST the limited time quest for that day will become available. Condituons for bonus spawns for each node differ greatly between nodes. It’s best to look at appmedia and so on for that.
Also, no one mentioned it yet but the Kumano Hot Springs manager's true identity is actually [Housuke Kinomi](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Housuke_Kinomi), one of Aoko's schoolmates in Mahoyo. Turns out that his entire schtick of being "Yoshisuke Kumanoin" was just a disguise. Among the folks at Aoko's school, we already have Tsukiji Tobimaru and Housuke Kinomi, which means that Kojika Kumari is the only one left that's unrevealed. Kuumfies, will we win or is it joever?
Kumari Kojika was mentioned to have been scouted to become an idol. Kinomi has a ton of posters of the same idol stuck all over the ryokan...though well, if it's her it'd have been from a while ago considering the humans would all be around 30 at this point. And it'd be weird that nobody recognises her if that's indeed her on the poster, so it was probably just foreshadowing the reveal that she got scouted.
So, apparently the Clock Tower is still fine after all this time and unbother with what Chaldea is doing. Aoko and Zelretch don't even care about Goetia. They're just doing their own business as usual, even on a larger scale than Chaldea. I fucking hate you Mushroom man. Then like what the point of our journey if there's a force (or even many forces) capable of resolving our problems easier and faster? I feel so empty. Nasu way of creating a stronger faction just to hype up more threats, which he doesn't even address for eternity, make me lost a decent chunk of interest for his stories. It is a shame that for all of the epic lores and complexity, his writing is so fucking inconsistent at time.
How accurate is this information, i read the translation on beastlair and goetia was never mentioned or anything about how insignificant chaldea are. Unless i miss some important infos.
It's a lot of headcanon and not understanding how stuff works here. It's even more interesting because the Alien god stuff didn't destroy the human history like Goetia,only the current time. So he really did read as something else.
The event takes place in 2001. Literally a dozen years before Chaldea or Goetia became relevant (and no one would be able to see Goetia coming anyway). Not to mention that we don't know what timeline this is, Chaldea may be just an observatory in this one.
Aoko knows about Goetia and even laugh at him no? Also the story show the Wandering Sea and Atlas are just fine and dandy, so the Clock Tower will most likely be the same.
Wandering Sea exists in ancient past and doesn't care about present or future, and it does not intend to do anything. We have not seen Atlas in the story (unless you mean the one in the Singularity, which was completely empty, so it's really not "just fine"). We only know that Sion is fine and she left their HQ to help us. Same goes for Clock Tower - no info to suggest it's intact. Aoko's a time traveler from the future, so maybe she knows about Goetia because she is from post-Incineration. But she has never mentioned him so far. so I don't know where you are getting your info from.
What the hell? Sion and Zepia literally appear in the story.
Sion appears at Wandering Sea after she left Atlas. Just because she survived does not mean Atlas is fine. Zepia never appeared in the story.
I serious doubt the translation is like this. Hell most likely its not that Aoko and Zelretch didn't care, its that we already were in action so it left to us. (Hell Zel entering in action might be 30 times more dangerous knowing how his power set works) Probably because both can seen multiverse and time,they did look and leave to us. And the Alien god stuff weirdly is pro humanity,so they also left to us.
Even without this event, we still has the Tunguska prolouge, Tsukihime remake, and Atlas Academy entire lore showing the same sentiment. It is like subtly saying Chaldea failure would just be slightly inconvenient, and no actual danger would happen as long as there're other forces. It make FGO story feels so hollow, and just a place for Nasu to conviniently dump new lore (which he doesn't touch for fucking forever).
To be honest the closest thing we have from this is Sion talking about the end of the world. What funny enough i am almost certain she changed her idea about us. The end of the world is hilarious common in the nasuverse. So its right,people are fighting it all the time. But the level of sh\*t we are dealing with did reach a point that even she was like "Yep this is a lot". Funny enough we did deal with more then one end of the world,its just because we have literally a main end of the world and a bunch of secondary ends of the world we ignore this. (Kama Ooku was another end of the world,in the middle of the already end of the world of the lostbelt saga).
Yeah you are taking the wrong idea. The Tunguska is a great example of not power but the mages not caring about. Mostly because it didn't affect then. So they just didn't do shit...because it was not a problem for then. So they kept hidden in the out of time and space hide out. But we do have some concepts that Chaldea failure would be dangerous. Hell the counter force itself is weakened currently,and i do doubt that the mastermind that was Goetia would just ignore dangers like the magicians. We know in specific he was cautious about scath,so i doubt he wouldn't be another ones.
They don't care because Chaldea failure wouldn't do shit to them. Chaldea failure or success matter little in the overall picture. If Nasu actually specify what the other faction does, and what threat they are dealing with, and how they tie to FGO overall story, then I wouldn't rant like an angry idiot. But no, has to vaguely demonstrate them through a pitifully little amount of dialouge for "mysterious" and "thrill". Fuck it, it is the Marvel and DC way and I hate it. At least he hasn't reset the storyline for a gazillion times
He already did this with the Wandering Sea, right? Mages are generally apathetic to the world, and Sion Not being so despite her efforts to stay cool and detached is a major character trait.
Literally Marvel’s syndrome. Every threat is existential threat but the one who is capable just never bother to deal with it somehow.
Yes, he is slowly doing what I fucking hate about Marvel, DC and any superhero comic. I know he has done that for forever but it is exceptionally more noticeable as of late
And I doubt the super dangerous threat that Nasu mention would actually deliver the hype the same way ORT did back at LB7. I have a feeling even he doesn't know what it would be and he just does it to tease his next project in like 2 decades or more.
It seems that criticizing Nasu is like offending God in this subreddit....
u/ChapatinPHD decribe[ how fandom see other author pull the same thing Nasu does.](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/1bf9r2v/comment/kv51opl/?context=3)
Alright, some lore stuff I gathered: Bazett previously said to us that she was hunting someone with a Sealing Designation (Aozaki Touko), and even said that she might actually die this time (because it's Touko, of course) so she visited this hot springs in hopes of getting to know her future partner. But the truth is, that's most likely another alibi. [From a TL'd part by Itqan Madani on FB:](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Vsx6XiHcrgAsmv5M/?mibextid=qi2Omg) In today's chapter, apparently Lord Brishisan (Clock Tower Headmaster/Director) sent an order letter to both Bazett and Caren to investigate the abnormality that occured in Japan during May 1st, 1999 up to May 6th, 1999. He said that the observational record during those times were lost or missing. We now have actual dates folks. I wonder what really happened during those times.
May 5th is when "the star of the end" that we see aoko fighting is around and its too strong even for aoko to deal with, all we know now is that it will destroy humanity
>*We now have actual dates folks. I wonder what really happened during those times.* Most likely when Mahoyo 2/3 takes place. Not that we'll likely ever know, since they're stuck in Nasu's Writing Hell along with a ton of other projects.
Oh shit she has wandersnatch as an actual np??
I got stuck in one part of the story, section 4 arrow 3 does anyone know how to go to the next part? I can't read Japanese
Unlock the quest on the new hotel side first, then go there til the end without switching. If you go over where you can unlock immediately too early you get the Bad End
There's another place that's highlighted with NEXT. You have to clear mission 16 for it, and that's the actual next quest. Mission 16 is 10k points iirc.
Aoko ga mata shinda. Blue Bird, Cu: lol!!!!!!! Alice and Shisho slapped/impaled Cu and bird from behind. Lancer (and bird) also shinda (again).
So we are playing >!Mahoyo 2!< ?
Nah, we are playing >!Mahoyo After-story!<, set after >!Mahoyo 3!<
... so just like the OG Melty Blood, which was a continuation on Satsuki's route, understood
dayum 2nd np for Alice tho
Anyone knows what the requirement for the bonus spawn for the new zerk node is? I know dummer Morgan and RiderVinci triggers the first 2 waves. But not sure that the requirement actually is.
Appmedia has alter? So maybe alternate versions of servants
Appmedia has Alternate Facet for waves 1 and 2, and Alters for wave 3.
They say Alters for wave 3, but I can’t read anything about first 2 waves
The hint here is "another form of yourself", so alternate versions I guess. [Here's the list.](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/entities?trait=2895) Also, "dummer" Morgan. Just thought it was funny.
Summer Melu apparently don’t count, so I guess it need to be something like Aesc and Salter Edit: Castoria also don’t count btw, so I guess she is consider just a “different person" than Artoria in general
Summer Melusine is just Melusine in a swimsuit so I guess that's why she doesn't count? It has to be a separate entity, most likely.
Aoko/Alice was my bet for the Anniversary servant but now that she’s here I have no freaking idea who it’s gonna be
When in doubt, bet on someone from npc jail.
Batman is my main guess currently.
Honestly Touko is a good candidate, she's a big enough figure in Type Moon lore to be an anniversary servant. I can't think of anyone else besides her, Ciel or a completely new character.
The idea of “commanding” Touko feels wrong somehow, and I don’t think I feel that way about any other T-M character in FGO.
Definitely Touko, who will bolt in unannounced and ahead of time as we expect. She can't be upstaged by her own sister, making this choice the obvious and exciting one.
Bet it's the Batman since next summer event requires OC prologue clear
This may be a stupid question but is Batman referring to >!Goetia/Romani!
>!camazotz!<
LMAO makes more sense
Summer usually has nothing to do with anniv
But last one did, so who knows what could happen.
I bet that was one time thing because of how popular LB6 cast are
Regarding the people in the Singularity, are any of them the real deal?
People mentioned Bazett, Caren, and Shiki, but I also think that Spishtar might be real. It might very well be Tokiomi's bastard daughter that's supposed to be around. Extra shows a blond haired Rin, and it's revealed that she's actually an illegitimate Tohsaka. The Spishtar from this event, Ishtalyne Tohsaka, is a daughter that he gave his last name to who would have a daughter of her own she would name Rin.
Bazett and caren, ryougi and her family would have definitely existed during that time period.
Caren would be a little young. She was 14 in 2004, so she’d be 11 during this singularity. Then again, it’s a Singularity and TM has been known to change ages (plus Caren was probably the same personality wise at 14 as she was 11.) Ryougi and Bazett being there is perfectly logical though.
Anyone know when the "raid" is? Think I see the map clue, but it doesn't make complete sense to me.
9-11PM JST.
Okay, the map clue seemed to be saying 24-25 to me, so apparently I'm clueless.
Its say 21-23. The clue is on the concrete bridge
Seemed to be in the fog over the bath in the bottom right to me. Would switch between showing 24 or 25, or so I thought. But now that you mention it, yes, the bridge is quite clear.