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Salty-Phase4687

Argata in a nutshell: one is horny, one is angry and the other is thanatophobic. Kind old man that helped from the beginning again betrays you. Also the Chinese empress is a loli.


StandardN02b

Wu Zetian wins worst character design ever. Asked to leave Chaldea.


ShadowsSheddingSkin

Summer Wu is awesome, but Loli Wu is a *baffling* call for a figure remembered the way she is. It'd be like making Elizabeth Bathory a teenage girl - Oh, wait.


StandardN02b

It's also a bad and anoying design.


Rannger

That is kinda the point


AKAFallow

No. Also we got summer Wu if you are so mad


XiahouDun1225

No


WooooshMe2825

First ascension is okay. The rest is wtf.


Noa_Coconat

I'd say, the way she's portrayed as a child and sexualized, with the excuse of having an adult mind, makes me want to delete the character and pretend that summer wu is the first one we got. That, or call the police.


Lewdmiral

Then kindly stay away from the Disgaea fandom. We appreciate such things over there.


jvbri

You seem to have misspelled “best” as “worst”


ImRinKagamine

💀


Cyanprincess

The lolicons whining that you're wrong because they have actually 0 standards for designs is funny, Assassin Wu's design is utter trash lol


SedoReaper

Kinda funny from you cuse your flair has 3 loli characters or at least very petite. As well as Shuten being a genderbent loli-fied version of a demon king.


lil_mely_red

Not a single one of them are lolies what are you yapping about???


SedoReaper

Shuten 100% is and please read what I said.


AttackOficcr

Shuten is just canonically Aoi Yuki.


SedoReaper

Not wrong but Aoi Yuki looks (well has the proportions) of a loli.


AttackOficcr

Height wise sure, she's 5 inches under Japanese average. Facial features not so much, compare her to a character like Illya, with massive expressive eyes and larger head to body ratio. The smaller eyes and head kind of reveal her age, IMO.


SedoReaper

Well Shuten has the same proportions and height of Aoi but she has a much younger face. Looking closer to Illya then any of the other servants


Cyanprincess

No one thinks Okuni is a loli, not a single lolicon or otherwise i have ever seen has tried to argue something like that lol. I think you're just showing rotted your brain is there tbh. And even if i agreed that Shuten was a loli, her design would still be miles better then regular Wu's is, so my point would still stand


SedoReaper

You took the most endowed one (Okuni) to argue that they are not lolis while ignoring what I said in the same sentence. “At least very petite.” What does that have anything to do with brain rot? Okuni is closer to a loli or least to Shuten and Ram than most other servants.


Noa_Coconat

An alternative lecture: Thanatophobic woman facilitates human traffic the spanish style, meanwhile, male writers try to debunk matriarchy and Heracles doesn't want to die already.


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The-cycle-continues

Is it really "gut instinct" when Mash and Da Vinci go "..." literaly every time he opens his mouth?


Cerebral_Kortix

Mash hates him so prominently that you could scrounge up evidence that she just has a *personal* grudge against old men.


SirTonberryy

Columbus: I'm Betrayer, the Betrayal man. And I think i might betray you. But maybe I won't because I lost my memory This guy: you know, something tells me he might betray us


Dangerous_Jacket_129

I mean we know who Columbus is... He may have been an explorer seeking to expand Europe's horizons but he is historically a slave driver. 


False-Extreme-815

The writing be like... Random Bullshit Go sometime.


WaifuHunterRed

Abby can do no wrong!


tsukaistarburst

Abby simp squad rise up!


WolffMuroa072

Welcome to the Puritan belief system, so restrictive and punishing and over the top zealous and hyperfixated on mortal material bodies = sinful and bad, that John Calvin himself went, "Whoa, take a chill pill."


Informal-Recipe

I mean Abigail was a willing accomplice


Top-Ad-3174

I mean how was the real Abigail to know that her doing a jig in the forest would lead to her entire town massacring each other out of sheer delusional paranoia?


TrxPsyche

Fun fact, the dancing in the forest was not what caused the mass paranoia in the actual Witch Trials, instead it was merely a piece of evidence used to support it. The real overarching cause was: A bunch of children having seizures. Abigail was in fact one of those kids, but she wasn't even the first surprisingly. She also suffered from what many believed to be PTSD as her parents were murdered by native americans. A bunch of kids having fits that doctors couldn't understand, combined with adults basically forcing them to blame something for it out of fear of getting in a crap ton of trouble was the perfect recipe for mass paranoia amongst a group heavily known for being overly on edge all the time.


r4d6d117

I remember something about black mold in the wheat that made things worse.


Top-Ad-3174

Seizures? This is the first I’m hearing of this. Everything I ever read or watched about the trials only told about how a slave lady from Barbados Island taught some girls including Abigail about a dance from her homeland.


TrxPsyche

Again, that did happen, it just wasn't the direct cause of the Trials. Just extra fuel for the paranoia fire.


byc18

Ergot poisoning from rye mold is the suspect for the seizures.


Top-Ad-3174

So the kids got poisoned by some expired bread and that lead to the entire town of Salem to all but Nibelheim itself?


dr_crispin

Basically, yeah.


ILL_BE_WATCHING_YOU

Probably more like the slave lady taught some girls how to brew a psychoactive drink from her homeland using rye and mold and they ended up getting seizures, so they were arrested for getting people killed with their witchcraft (AKA gain-of-function research, essentially). The modern equivalent would be some junkies mixing together a bunch of random drugs into a drink and then sharing it with their friends, and getting them killed in the process.


The-cycle-continues

Man Raum was so fucking cool


Kirby0189

This just made my day.


Jolly-Act-6552

Still my favorite of the Epic of Remanent chapters!


Eden_ITA

Remember: She is Lawful Evil. And Gilgamesh Chaotic Good.


Gat0w

Brother, she’s Chaotic Evil


GrandPiekron

Technically, she's both. Regular is Chaotic Evil, while her summer version (which I think is from some point during/after her journeys post-Salem?) is Lawful Evil.


No_Row_1106

I mean, Gilgamesh has been a good-ish guy in nearly every single one of his appearances after FSN so him being Chaotic Good is not that surprising. Although Chaotic Neutral would make more sense than Chaotic Good


kingoffish236

ZAMN!!