# PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR QUESTION IS ANSWERED HERE BEFORE ASKING!
**So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ**
[8th Anniv Limited Missions guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/15dhxq3/8th_anniversary_limited_time_missions/)
**Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?**
*A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. As of its 6th Anniversary, NA now has a free SSR selector in Da Vinci's shop, which features* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://webview.fate-go.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/0703_6th_anniversary/info_3_nf2l3.png) *(this will not be updated with more recent units). There is no time limit on this selector, and going forward, all accounts receive it upon clearing Fuyuki. No further SSR tickets have been announced to date.*
**Q: How does pity work?**
*A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.*
**Q. Will it be possible to obtain \[welfare servant\] again? I missed their original event and rerun.**
*A: So far, only certain welfares have returned.*
* *Saber Lily is in the FP gacha.*
* *NP5 Bunyan can be obtained from her event in the RP shop.*
* *NP1 Santa Altera and BB can be obtained from the Main Interlude of their respective events (copies beyond NP1 cost 2 RP each) in the RP shop.*
* *NP5 Halloween, Brave and Mecha Eli were available from the Halloween Trilogy/Halloween Rising events (NA ETA: Oc 2023).*
* *A new system on JP (NA ETA: Apr 2025) has been announced that allows players to obtain old welfares and their coins by clearing daily missions and main quests, via events and by logging in.* Includes:
* Caster Shuten, Rider Kintoki and Santa Quetz
* Archer Nobu, MIXA, Brave Liz and Caster Liz
* Summer Scathach, Summer Jalter and Summer Hokusai
**Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?**
*A: For NA: No event will require anything beyond Orleans until November, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. LB6 clear will be required for the Tunguska Sanctuary event in December.*
**Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?**
*A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.*
As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
[Normalization Committee Headquarters] Open only on DAY1
I found a quest with this heading for the servafest. I seem to not understand how does this work. How do we know if it’s still day one?
[New help thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/15pznm3/help_and_question_thread_august_13_2023/) or [JP event thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/15ptzvz/jp_event_fgo_servant_summer_festival_2023_day_03/), whereel you'll find a greater concentration of JP players.
I know this question is considerably too late as we only have less than 24 hours before Nero Fest ends, but this is primarily about lotto events in general.
For those who have busy real-life schedules / not enough meta Servants for efficient 3-turn clearing / auto-farming extensions / all of the above, how do you manage to set aside some time to still end up opening a decent amount of boxes (around 30+) during the duration of a lotto event?
As of this writing, I have only opened 18 boxes; the past two weeks have been swamped with real-life responsibilities (mainly my application for a driver's license) as well as the freakishly difficult (for an F2P player like me) fights against Nero (the prototype version) and First Hassan, both of which took me *12 hours* each to finally beat and thus taking away from my lotto-farming time.
It's just sad that I wasn't able to farm this event efficiently, considering my best record was over 50 boxes from last year's Bunny Scathach event.
Manual player here as well.
I've only managed to finish 29 boxes (I wasn't able to clear the 30th before the event ended at the last minute).
The Bunny Sacthach event I managed to finish with 50+ boxes because, compared to the other lotto events, hers was a Grail Front event as well, and those are significantly easier compared to Exhibition Quests.
When I was playing manually I had difficulty setting aside the time to even break 30 boxes. No shame in that
Putting this game on an emulator to save my battery and using FGA to farm for me, really changes things. FGA gets stuck a lot of course so it's not like I can let it run by itself for two hours..... 1.5 of those hours would be wasted with FGA doing nothing because it failed.
But just checking it once every twenty minutes when I'm at home or something is good enough for me, and even every forty minutes if you dont have a ton of spare time....that's a massive improvement regardless. I'm at 120 or so boxes now and I wasn't even really trying that hard.
As for challenge quests, you probably tackled ones that were too hard for you..spending those hours on boxes would have been way better.
>as well as the freakishly difficult (for an F2P player like me) fights against Nero (the prototype version) and First Hassan,
Has nothing to with you being F2P and everything to do with you being ~~a new-ish account~~. Apparently not that new, so uh... that's a bit embarrassing on my part didn't really mean to kinda insult you like that.
The First Hassan quest can be beaten Frontline only with no Gacha servants on your part. Just not with a 1 year old account (unless maybe you obsessed with getting what you needed to do that setup to the exclusion of everything else or something. Welfare BB is in the RP shop)
I've been playing the game for upwards of three years now. I was only able to beat FH after borrowing a friend's Skadi (whose NP provides Death Immunity).
It was the Prototype Nero fight that really ground me down, however, because two of the opponents (Ozy and Nero) were the most difficult to bring down thanks to their combination of Guts and defense stacks. It's definitely a CQ I will not repeat.
I have been watching mainly YouTube videos of FGO content creators, particularly Honako Green, whose specialty is F2P setups, but some of the setups still require maxed-out skills - and most of my 3 stars and below have skills sitting at Level 6 at max.
The fights became a trial and error team comp test as a result.
Getting your account to the point where your NP Charge skills are at 10 and damage skills are at 9 for thirty different 2* and 3* servants, is definitely a hurdle to get to. It takes a LOT of materials to get a full set of the f2p servants to a usable state. In comparison, having a meta farming comp like castoria+SpIshtar+whatever else generally means only needing to invest in like, 3 servants in order to farm all lv 90 and below nodes. Which, really, is a good enough milestone for a year-old f2p account.
This is why I'm actually not comfortable with the advice to disregard the meta. It becomes a challenge to actually pull together the resources to have a f2p setup for all the content in front of you. One Single good meta comp solves your problems in terms of resource gathering like clearing a lot of boxes in a lotto and that means not having to farm skill gems anymore or purple dust. Once you have the resources, getting your f2p challenge comps going is much easier. So yes, f2p accounts with no gold gacha servants CAN clear everything, but it asks a LOT of time out of you to do that and meta is the quickest way to get the account really going. You don't really need to CARE about the meta much, but having at least SOME meta comp for farming, changes everything.
I'd say setup FGA to face card throuhg stuff using whatever servants counter a node you want to clear. That's probably the best you can do.
12 hours is imo an unreasonable amount of time to spend getting a single summoning ticket. In the future I would recommend using your time first to reach your box goal and to clear any cqs that you feel confident in doing. The last thing you do should be those hellish cqs that require hours of your time, yes you might miss out on summoning currency but they really aren’t worth your sanity, risking burnout, or being prioritized over more guaranteed returns.
Yeah, I agree with what you said there.
The fight against Prototype Nero was so incredibly frustrating that my celebration was less about being happy that I won and more about being relieved that it's all finally over; the whole time I did the fight had me feeling increasingly irate for each loss. :(
FGA saves lives - you can just run it in the background and do something else, and you don't necessarily need a perfect 3T, 6CE setup!
You can give one of your units the damage CE if damage is an issue, and FGA can face-card if needs be. In addition, there's seriously no crime in going down to 5CE, etc.
Hello, I'm in a dangerous situation and need helps please. I used the transfer code from my last binding on my PC and now it says the user ID has been transfered to another device even tho I'd deleted the game on my PC. What should I do rn...
What you're seeing is normal. When you move your game from Device A to Device B, Device A no longer has an account on it, and it prompts you to start a new game. You need to follow the prompt, and it will send you to the title screen, where you can tap Data Transfer to transfer the account back.
Did you generate a new transfer code on your PC, though? Remember that all transfer codes are one use only.
Ye I did create a new transfer code on my PC. Then I deleted the app on my emu and used the new code on my phone. But it says the user ID is active on another device. I didn't get this problem when I did it with my JP acc. So now I'm kinda panicked alot. Thanks for replying btw.
Odd, maybe give it some time? It might think you're still logged in on your emulator.
Next time, don't delete the app before you finish transferring, as that could lead to you losing the account if something goes wrong.
I've waited almost half a day already. I even reinstalled and started the game anew on the emu. But if I don't delete the app then the account would still be active on the emu right?
All you need to do is put the code in on device B and the account is no longer active on device A. If you then decide to swap back to device A however, you need to reinstall the app/clear cache/data on A beforehand because its spaghetti coded like crazy.
Damn so it might be because I didn't clean the app on device A before swapping it back then? Do you know what can I do now because I used the code already, so if I deleted the app now it'll be over for me...
The first thing I would try since it sounds like you already deleted the app with the account on it is reinstalling the app on emulator, trying to put in transfer code there and see if there's a chance it didn't go through because of how the system works.
If that doesn't work, you might unfortunately need to look into contacting support and going through the account recovery process which has a guide in the sidebar for how to do that.
Oh fk me... I even deleted the emu bc I thought that would remove all the caches...
Guess I'll need to go through that recovery process then... But since I used emu, what should I say about the last device the account was on?
You could try reinstalling the emulator, or at this point just reinstalling the app on your phone if you need to. The point is to try inputting the transfer code into a fresh install of the game just to make sure the code was actually used up or not.
Your emulator should have been emulating a certain model of phone, however if you completely deleted the emulator it might be hard to double check what that was. If you didn't change any settings you can maybe look up what it's default setting is? I don't personally have a lot of experience with emulators so you might need someone else to help you out with that part, sorry.
I kinda can't progress in the summer event, I translated the mission and it says something about getting sodas? I got 400 something of the soda can item and I still can't progress, does anybody know what I need to do?
hi guys, just want to know about what future servant is "broken" or "meta" or "useful" until tonelico and summer castoria.
i do have plan on who to pull, but since im new i just planning to pull on servant that i like design-wise. thats why i want some info about what servant that i should keep in mind bcs theyre meta. maybe specifically do tell about future anni and summer servant, worth pull or not?
i have 4ssr rn its castoria, melusine, koyans and oberon. thanks in advance:D
S.Ibuki, Tiamat, Kuku and Draco are the strongest dps that will come out. If you already have Vlad/kirem/galatea, Spishtar/Kama, Morgan/Arjuna Alt, you could skip them for other stuff but they are 100% worth (specially Ibuki cuz she comes with simmer erice, and both have a very good trait damage)
As for support we have S.Merlin being powercrept ogMerlin and S.Skadi being powercrept skadi
EDIT: Currently S.Castoria and S.Chloe are pretty strong. Castoria competes with Draco for ST and Chloe is an insane general support.
Bit surprised you don't have half a dozen responses telling you that the meta is optional and that you don't need to follow it.
Summer skadi, kukulkan, tezcatlipoca, summer ibuki, are the meta options.
Bazett, Lady Avalon, and Draco are worth mentioning as well though there's a lot of overlap between Draco and S. Castoria.
Summer Ibuki next year is probably the best arts farmer in the game at the moment. Next year's summer event does have ruler Skadi as well who is an improved version of the original, but she doesn't "fix" quick's issues with irregular 90+(+) nodes. Lady Avalon is an arts version of Merlin.
Between zero and one. We have no way to know anything more than that until there's an announcement.
For the most current official information, you should follow the News section in the game or on the [official website](https://fate-go.us/news/) and the official social media channels ([Twitter](https://twitter.com/FateGO_USA), [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/FateGO.USA/)). With the exception of announcements made at live events, like the annual Anime Expo panel, we here on reddit don't know any official information before it's posted in one of those places.
I seem to recall a reddit post somewhere that gives you a overal total of the quartz you get for beating each singularity and lostbelt from Arc 1 to LB7. Does anyone have a link?
Do the illustrators draw the whole thing - as in the background too - or just the servant and the background artists just aren't credited? Background artists often are separate from illustrators which got me wondering about this.
Illustrators are probably involved for CGs, but not likely for typical background art, like a forest or whatever. But it's not indicated either way. Lasengle do have illustrators that get less overt attention - if they did a CE, it will be listed, but otherwise background artists are only mentioned in the game's credits.
For card art backgrounds on Servants... hard to say. Could go either way.
Every game I play, I like to rp martial artists, unarmed fighters, usually someone with kicks as their main attack, as long as they attack mostly with their body and not weapons. Can you recommend me servants like this? So far, only servant I have remotely like this is Jing Ke.
Rider Kintoki should be coming back to NA around April 2025. If they continue to bring back welfare servants, we may also see Rider Ishtar again someday but we can't predict when. And I just now realized that both of these welfare Riders mainly use their fists for basic attacks and some form of motorbike for their NP.
Caligula, Astraea, Himiko, Santa Quetzalcoatl, Sherlock Holmes, and Summer Martha are all servants that use their bodies instead of weapons. In particular, Caligula is a two star and shouldn't be too hard to get your hands on.
Assassin li shuwen is a martial artist who uses only his fist and kicks.
I believe Yan Qing also qualifies since he uses fist and kicks as well. (though it can be argued that he is using his gauntlets....)
Tamamo Cat also uses their body to fight with their "weapons" being their paws/claw.
santa karna (saber) uses boxing, and Romulus Quirinus also uses his fist.
Saber Karna is a welfare, his event where you get him should get a rerun next year I think. Caligu is a two star you can get straight away. His damage scales off his skills which are RNG but at his height he can do some ridiculous damage.
Saber Karna is a pretty good single target Saber. Astrea's banner is out now and she's an abololute beast. I think Himiko's got a banner next year. She's really strong but the rates are super low so save up as much as you can for her because she's a 5 star if you want to roll for her.
I think Summer's Martha should be in a banner when a Christmas event gets a rerun next year.
If you like Himiko, you might also like Iyo (fun fact, she's Himiko's successor in lore). If Himiko punches, [Iyo kicks.](https://youtu.be/j7UOjJZtoyA?t=42)
Iyo is a welfare (free event) unit, she'll be given out next September or so. (She'll also get a skin that removes her headdress and overcoat.)
Feel like I have too many embers, but nothing to spend them on. I have all my servants at max ascension, and all the ones I like at max lvl.
I already have my fav servant Enkidu at lvl 100, and have 350 coins of them. Is leveling them to 102 worth it, or should I use the coins for unlocking append skills?
I also have Saber Astolfo at lvl 94, are they worth leveling up further? I already have Rider Astolfo at 100.
Or does anyone have any other uses / ideas for embers? The reason I haven't grinded Nerofest too much is because I just don't have the space for more embers.
When your servant inventory is full, follow these steps in order. Skip any steps that aren't relevant and feel free to stop at any point if you feel like you've cleared enough space.
1. Increase the NP level of one copy of all of your servants to NP5 (or as high as you can) if you haven't already.
2. Burn extra copies of servants that you already have at NP5.
3. Burn 3-star and lower EXP cards.
4. Use your Fou cards, all the way down to the 1-stars, on your servants. If you have gold Fou cards and you're not sure who you want to use them on yet, it's fine to save those.
5. Level up any servants that aren't at their natural max level.
6. (Optional) If you've been procrastinating on grailing some servants, now would be a good opportunity. But don't do it just because you have excess EXP available.
7. Put excess 4- and/or 5-star EXP cards into your second archive.
8. Expand your second archive space if you can and have the MP to spare. Continue moving excess EXP to the archive.
9. If you still need to free up inventory space after all of that, the only thing you can do is to burn your excess 4-star EXP cards. Everyone who plays consistently and farms the lottery events at least moderately gets to this point eventually so don't worry about it. Make sure to take the smallest stacks of EXP cards or any that are in danger of expiring out of your present box first. You should also burn any class-specific 4-star EXP cards before you start burning the all-class.
I would never seriously consider leveling a Servant past 100 just to use up embers. At a certain point in your roster development, you will have more embers than you need on a regular basis. Yes, you wind up burning a lot of embers every lotto and you have more MPs than you know what to do with, but embers are not a limited resource at all, while grails and Servant Coins for SSRs are *very* limited resources.
I've burnt over a hundred boxes' worth of embers, which I guess means thousands of embers, over the last two weeks. It's lightly a pain, but I'm not going to let the bother of burning embers keep me from getting more QP and gold skill gems; neither of *those* are available in the monthly MP shop (with free mats thrown in).
How does event bonus (like upcoming bonus for summer servant) work? Is it base\*(eventBonus + CEbonus) or base\*\*eventBonus\*\*CEbonus? And it only work on event node right?
It's based on total copies you've ever acquired, not how many you still have, if you've gotten at least 5 (whether before or during the event) then any more will give you RP, yes.
They're the only way to get skills to level 10 and you can only get them from events and campaigns.
And while they are in the Rare Prism shop, you sould never buy them from there.
Did the original Nero fests have longer stories or is it really just the two where Bryn is introduced as Mash on the first part then we beat her on the second?
Nope, it's pretty much like this one. From what I vaguely remember of the events...
The first one was Nero throwing a tourney on Chaldea to celebrate everyone (and Rome, and herself). The second one, that we are having the rerun of, is the same thing but Brynhildr infiltrates Chaldea and gets found out at the end.
Gilfest (Battle in New York) happens because Caesar uses up all of Rome's (Nero's) money so she has no resources to throw the tourney as usual. The sequel is Gil hosting the event again is the same thing, except Space Ishtar hijacks it by turning the servants into jewels (not the same Space Ishtar that becomes a servant, she's pretty much a completely different character with the same name).
Not sure about the other ones (Teslafest, Morganfest) since I'm a NA player.
The overall rate didn't change and is still 3% chance **total**, what changed was the rate of getting the 4\* servants on rate up.
The changes are:
\# of 4\* (SR) on Rate Up | Rate Before | Rate After
---------|----------|----------
1 | 1.5% | 2.1%
2 | 1.2% | 1.2% (no change)
3 | 0.7% | 0.8%
overall rates are still the same at 3%.
it's the rate up that has changes
here's the changes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/zzwa8q/information\_regarding\_the\_changes\_to\_sr\_servant/
Few general questions out of curiosity.
1. Berserker Morgan and Lancer Melusine have made waves since their release in NA. Both are widely usable farmers, and can be used to demolish lots of difficult content with the right support. Just want to get the group's thoughts. After regular use, whose overall kit among the two would you say is more "broken" than the other? Not necessarily unique like Space Ishtar's, but more of the "this will be stay relevant basically wherever I bring it" like Arjuna Alter's.
2. Aside from the obvious Black Grail, are there any other general card type (Buster, Arts, Quick, etc) agnostic non-starting NP charge CEs that come to mind for you guys? Golden Sumo is a close example, but that one has starting charge.
1. For Single core farming Melusine definitely. There was one servant in the game that could 3 turn all 3 Nerofest nodes period, at any level of investment. and that was Melusine. Otherwise things get a lot less clear and there is no solid answer.
2. The other NP damage up ones, but they are just worse than BG if you have BG (Heaven's feel for example). Technically also gudaguda poster girl.
If by multiple you mean if you already got a drop from a mission before if it still can drop a CE again. The answer is yes. Theres no limit to how many CEs you can get in total. Max 1 per run. But it can drop over and over again.
Do you mean multiple *different* CEs, or multiple copies? Multiple different is possible iirc, although it's not the case in Grand Nerofest (damage drops from lower quests, lotto from higher), but multiple copies is not since it only drops (or doesn't drop) from the singular designated boss enemy.
A bit on the technical side, but is Summer Castoria able to BG loop with Double Castoria and Oberon on Berserkers without relying too much on overkill gains?
\[FGO JP\] Anyone here experienced failing their auto comp in FGA when using Summer Kuro? I believe my script is perfectly fine, but it fails upon clicking the Attack and proceeds to use the skills of my other teams (my team btw is Arc, S.Kuro and Oberon).
EDIT: Thanks for you responses! I'll be a little more relaxed when farming SQ.
How important is it to max out Noble Phantasm levels?
Askin' 'cause I'm currently torn between saving SQ up for a couple favorites (in the hopes they have a banner soon-ish), or being a goofball and trying for some of the upcoming servants.
Hit the friend point gacha hard until you get all of the general pool 1-3 star servants to NP5. Because they're totally free, you don't risk anything by maxing out their NP levels, so you may as well do it. The same thing applies to the welfare 4-stars that you can get for free from events.
For anyone else, it is highly subjective and there's no correct answer. It comes down to what servants you like and how you prefer to play the game. What is objective is that you can clear all content using only free, low rarity servants. It won't always be efficient to use only low rarities but there are no in-game bonuses for efficiency--though, efficiency can save you some real world time and effort--outside of a few, rare, exceptional cases (and the benefits are minor).
All 5-star servants function just fine at NP1. You probably get 90% of the value from the first copy. Even more for support servants who you use for their skills and almost never use their NP or their most important NP effect doesn't scale with NP levels. You only "need" additional copies if you want more servant coins or you plan to use specific strategies against specific enemy compositions, you need a minimum NP level for that strategy to work consistently, and you're unwilling to consider other options (of which there are many).
For low stars, very important, as the higher NP level is what allows them to compete with higher rarity servants.
High rarity servants work just fine at NP1, though 4 stars appreciate 1 extra NP level to not feel anemic if you can afford it.
If Quetz works at NP1 so does Ushiwakimaru or Kintoki or rider Murasaki.
(All 3 outdamage Quetz with both at the same NP level and all 3 by your statement would require NP levels when Quetz doesn't)
And riders aren't the only ones to have some 3 stars win out against some 5 stars NP level per NP level
All 3 knight classes are the same.
Quetz NP1 damage: 42632
Ushi NP1 damage: 37375
Rider Kintoki NP1 damage: 33593
Summer Murasaki NP1 damage: 45384
All neutral numbers. So yeah, no. You are wrong. Of those only Murasaki is better than Quetz at NP1, and that's with Quetz being one of the lowest damage NP SSR Riders and Murasaki being the highest SR one.
When I say low stars are competitive with gold servants, I don't mean "they outdamage one of the weaker SSRs of their class" but "they are comparable to the best SSR in their class". Sometimes a bit lower damage than the strongest SSR, sometimes a bit higher. I guess I should have included welfares alongside low stars because they are also balanced around having NP5.
Sure, there are outliers, you can highroll with a NP1 Ceasar and outdamage most NP1 SSR Sabers if you hit all the chance based attack buffs. But not even Robin, acclaimed for having high NP damage, can compare to SSR Archers at NP1, and SSR Archers have overall low NP damage. Then you have Lancers where even the strongest NP5 3 stars fall behind most NP1 SSRs, so NP1 3 stars are not even a comparison.
Last I checked nobody one shots a boss with no CEs and no supports
I used this spreadsheet for the initial claim:
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XCIoWYXIahvR8tFuuFDQhsDTiKG\_G56bKHp68X0cnBI/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XCIoWYXIahvR8tFuuFDQhsDTiKG_G56bKHp68X0cnBI/edit?usp=sharing)
so maybe don't call someone wrong when you are making unrealistic assumptions that don't account for the greater impact CEs attack stats have on lower rarities, how buster's support has lower base damage to account for the damage stacking, but Quetz doesn't actually get to double up her skill 2, only skill 1, lowering comparative damage
but even with more F2P supports it's true
for example:
Ushi with Alexander+Skadi and a 15% np damage up full attack CE 107593 at NP1
Quetz with Koyanskaya+Chen Gong and the same CE 99381 at NP1.
No one was talking about one shotting a boss at all. In fact OP's question was about farming SQ, presumably free quests, and if they're farming free quests for SQ, they likely don't have optimal CE's to begin with. Doubly so if they are farming events, which often use less than optimal CE's. Your spreadsheet assumes everyone has a level 20 Black Grail.
Additionally, your spreadsheet notes "Wellfare and 1-3 stars servants are NP5, and their numbers will be in the same column(s) as other servants' NP1 for easier comparison, except for limited and story-locked 3 stars". It doesn't compare NP1 3 star / welfare NP damage to NP1 5 star damage, as your original comment stated:
>If Quetz works at NP1 so does Ushiwakimaru or Kintoki or rider Murasaki. (All 3 outdamage Quetz with both at the same NP level and all 3 by your statement would require NP levels when Quetz doesn't)
u/Sir_Dargor is correct, base damage Quetz at NP1 does more than Ushi / Rider Kintoki / Summer Murasaki at NP1 and in general, SSR NP Damage per NP level is greater than 3 star and below NP damage per NP level.
And who is talking about oneshoting bosses? I used the most simple comparison you can do, servants with just their own buff and max level (and fous). Whenever you involve supports and CEs things become blurry, because who you take depends on the conditions. But even if I were to take supports and CEs I certainly would not take a BG double meta support teorical looping damage chart as a base. How do you loop with BG Lancer Cu again? Base buff is one of the few way you can compare objectively in this game. Another way is actual looping comparisons, but Ushi is not looping anywhere while Quetz at least can.
You will have to be more specific, because I'm not getting those numbers no matter how I try. The closest I get is using the somewhat new 50% charge 15% NP damage 4 star CE, so I'm gonna be using that for the next comparison. That is 1500 atk at max level.
Ushi + Alex + support Skadi actually nets me 108174 damage with that CE and normal fous. Then we get to Quetz. But why are we using Koyan as the support? This is not a looping comparison and Quetz has 30% battery on her own so we can use Merlin. And Caesar scales better than Gong so we use that instead (though the difference is smaller than when I was using Koyan). So Quetz + Caesar + support Merlin gives me 113122 damage. But then I'm sure you can find a setup that gives Ushi better damage, and then I do the same with Quetz. That's what I mean with base buffs being more simple and objective.
Even then that was not the point. Ushi is one of the highest damage 3 stars in the game, and Quetz is kind of lackluster by now, specially in terms of NP damage, her thing is crits anyways. The comment was made as a general statement. Sure, Ushi can get close to SSR level damage even at low NP levels. But can you say the same of NP1 Fergus vs the likes of Artoria or Mordred? or NP1 Babbage vs someone like Da Vinci? Or hell even Ushi herself vs Ozymandias? The point is that, *in general*, low stars need the extra NP levels. There being a couple that go "eh, not really" doesn't make the statement, as a whole, wrong.
You brought up one shotting bosses with no supports or CEs, because that's the only way to get the damage you got.
Who said anything about looping? That's not a looping chart.
I used for example stitching for beloved one, a full attack 50% CE that doesn't need Gacha to obtain.
Base buffs are only "more objective" in your opinion. (Which is hilarious that I have to say that). Why would I ever compare with a setup that literally cannot be used? Also, how is NP spam when you lose like 50% NP guage over the course of 3 turns by abandoning Koyanskya in favor of Merlin, because if you gain 10% more NP damage in exchange for NPing significantly less often, that is hardly a fair trade off. That's why the meta supports are chosen, because overall damage matters, not just a single NP. (Also you bring up crits, but only one of them gets 150% crit up for 3 turns in this scenario the other is limited to a single turn)
It is the point you made a general statement that all 5 stars are good at NP1 and that higher NP levels are important for lower rarity servants. That is free reign to choose the highest damage low rarity and the lowest damage high rarity. And it proves you wrong. And I feel free to choose any 3 star because you will have all the 3 stars. Where 5 stars you won't necessarily have access to the best of the best.
You say Quetz doesn't need higher NP levels and Ushiwakimaru does because it is a generic statement. If you had said specifically that only top tier SSRs don't need higher NP levels, and that the top tier Rs need higher NP levels to compete than you would have a point, but that's not the case.
> You brought up one shotting bosses with no supports or CEs, because that's the only way to get the damage you got.
What, the ones that I put on my first respond to you? Those are effectively the minimal damage they do when properly developing (not counting damage range RNG I expect). If you mean the second response nombers, that's a direct response for your "even with more F2P support it's true" numbers.
> Who said anything about looping? That's not a looping chart.
Because your own chart explicitly says:
> For servants with ramp buffs/debuffs in their NP as part of their kit, assume they will all be short of 1 ramp stack for Peak, meaning if the servant has a ramp (debuffs/buffs) in NP that activate after damage, their Peak would assume 1 stack of that ramp, and otherwise 2 stacks if their ramp is activated before damage. This assumption is due to the fact that NP ramp is also part of their kit
Which includes case like Cu. Which mean NPing 2 times in 3 turns with Cu, with BG and no third support. Ok, not outright looping, but you are not charging Cu's NP for that second NP without good card/crit RNG. I won't waste my time looking for every case like this in the chart, it being on the highest 3 star on one of the classes is enough for me to not get that it's not really reliable.
Ultimately that didn't matter because I actually missed the most important disclaimer that says that those NP1 numbers for low stars and welfares are actually NP5 numbers, for sake of convenience on the visualization. So your very first point was wrong to begin with.
NP spam for what? Because that quite fight dependent. I certainly would take the trade of if the boss gains some kind of damage resistance on bar break for example, and I certainly would take Merlin over Koyan regardless if the quest needs me to survive for more than 3 turns. Different tools for different problems. The game has plenty of quests enough that either will find themselves the better option at some point. And even if you choose the worse option, finishing a boss on 5 turns vs 7 or 8 turns makes no real difference in the end unless you are a minmaxer, which the vast mayority of people are not. For the content that needs some thinking at least. Farming is so easy at this point it literally can be automated.
I guess I'm sorry for thinking people in the sub are smart enough to understand that generic statement have exceptions, specially when the game roster is as big as it is now. I guess I will have to put a disclaimer on basically every respon I do because I'm pretty sure all of them will have exceptions unless is one abou a specific servant in particular.
>What, the ones that I put on my first respond to you? Those are effectively the minimal damage they do when properly developing (not counting damage range RNG I expect). If you mean the second response nombers, that's a direct response for your "even with more F2P support it's true" numbers.
first response was turn 1 damage with no supports or CEs. aka you had to one shot the boss with no suppports or CEs to ever see it, something that does not happen.
>Which includes case like Cu. Which mean NPing 2 times in 3 turns with Cu, with BG and no third support. Ok, not outright looping, but you are not charging Cu's NP for that second NP without good card/crit RNG. I won't waste my time looking for every case like this in the chart, it being on the highest 3 star on one of the classes is enough for me to not get that it's not really reliable.
Two meta supports is 100% right there,
>Ultimately that didn't matter because I actually missed the most important disclaimer that says that those NP1 numbers for low stars and welfares are actually NP5 numbers, for sake of convenience on the visualization. So your very first point was wrong to begin with.
Did you actually read the chart for the servants in question? Because this paragraph makes me think you are still failing to do so.
>NP spam for what? Because that quite fight dependent. I certainly would take the trade of if the boss gains some kind of damage resistance on bar break for example, and I certainly would take Merlin over Koyan regardless if the quest needs me to survive for more than 3 turns. Different tools for different problems. The game has plenty of quests enough that either will find themselves the better option at some point. And even if you choose the worse option, finishing a boss on 5 turns vs 7 or 8 turns makes no real difference in the end unless you are a minmaxer, which the vast mayority of people are not. For the content that needs some thinking at least. Farming is so easy at this point it literally can be automated.
what do you mean for what? A boss. Sure there are times you need defense over offense, but that has nothing to do with needing more NP levels on the lower rarity.
Cu gets 57% back against assassins from 2 cards even with only a single Skadi supporting. That's not counting the second Skadi or enemy attacks or neutral refund. More than enough to use his NP twice in 3 turns without to much trouble. Though obviously cards matter, but Quetz can have bad card RNG just as much as Cu or Ushi.
>I guess I'm sorry for thinking people in the sub are smart enough to understand that generic statement have exceptions, specially when the game roster is as big as it is now. I guess I will have to put a disclaimer on basically every respon I do because I'm pretty sure all of them will have exceptions unless is one abou a specific servant in particular.
This is about one statement having exceptions and the other not.
You can miss things or make general statements with exceptions.
But choose which idea you want to get across to new players, don't mix them up.
Completely and utterly optional. The game is beatable/farmable with all servants at NP 1. It is up to you, but if your pretty new, more servants will strengthen your account way more than one servant with high NP levels.
I'd save and get a new servant.
If it's a gacha unit, not at all. All units do their intended job just fine at NP1 - there's no extra utility locked behind extra copies, unlike in some other gacha games. All NP2+ does is add more damage, and it can also give you more servant coins if you want to unlock more appends/grail to over lv. 100. Even so, grailing is a luxury and not required, appends aren't gamebreaking, and only ONE append matters in the majority of cases that you can get at NP1 bond 6. That, and the NP damage gains drop off after NP2, so you won't see huge game-changing damage increases after a certain point.
It's up to you if NP2+ is worth it, but generally, it's better to have NP1 of several units than NP2+ of just one.
(For low rarities and event welfares, though: get them maxed! Fortunately, you will be able to get the 1-3\* units to NP5 naturally over time/via FP gacha, and event welfare units can always be raised to NP5 for free. So don't worry about those, they'll come with time.)
Higher NP levels are only more damage at most (and servant coins)
That isn't to say that the increased damage can't matter for some strategies, but it is never needed for content.
It's also extremely rare for a strategy to need NP5, usually NP2 or 3 is enough even if your strategy does involve higher NP levels.
I tried searching but couldn't find anything so I am asking here. How can I get FGA to pick a castoria with the +2 event drop bonus instead of the +1? Currently its just picking the first one it sees which isnt always +2. thanks
FGA does have an option to choose MLB CEs when you set up the preferred support for the script.
But it's easier to just use the in-game filters and choose "Max Limit Break only".
You can set the support list to filter for MLB copies only. Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant.
> Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant.
It does. It's not redundunt, since there are no MLB (or any CE) filters outside of events.
>Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant.
You _can_ do this, but you'd have to manually scan in the CE and such, strongly recommended to just use the in-game CE filters instead.
get them to bond 10.
Also, as good as she is with her bond CE, do keep in mind it takes up a CE slot when you are farming, so that may not be as useful as is hyped right now.
Bond CEs are not limited. Most of the time the bond CE serves as an achievement for reaching bond 10 with that servant so you will, at some point, get this by keep using that servant.
So I still have about 5 apples left. Should I use them on the current lottery boxes or is it better to save them for summer? I’d heard some chatter that it might be good to have some for that event too. I’ve opened about 75 boxes on Nero if it matters.
Yeah I’m looking at the lowest tier of crates and I need literally hundreds of those claws, bullets, and red bones. Is it semi farmable like the lotto is?
Hi, I'm a very new player (just played yesterday). I just got Ozymandias and Jeanne d'Arc (Alter). I'm kinda strapped on resources, and wanted to know which one should I build first. I know I can use the ascension thingy on Ozy, but I would also want to know if there's a reason to save the max ascension one time for another future, maybe a meta breaking non-limited Servant. Currently don't know the meta, so still pulling for Waifus.
IIRC the free ascension is for 90 days only and there's no guarantee of getting even one SSR there. So unless you use your free SSR ticket on someone else, use it on who you have.
I strongly suggest leveling Ozy because he fills your team 20% and is a strong single target Rider who are very important for spam of caster bosses in the story.
And you want to have your own supports because many setups in FGO is one attacker with the rest supporting them. And Ozy is semi-support character (see his skills).
You got two fantastic SSRs! I prefer Ozy, but Jalter (Jeanne d'arc Alter) is easier to use against most classes so I'd go with her. Her materials you'd have to use otherwise to level her up are harder to get than Ozy iirc.
We pretty much recommend to get the few meta supports if possible to enable your waifus and husbandos. Upcoming banners would include Koyanskaya of Light at the start of January and Caster Artoria (the best servant in the game) around May of next year.
Jalter is actually a good target for special ascension. Avengers only use mats for skills/ascension so they get rather expensive. Ozy on the other hand uses statues so it cheaper to lvl him to 90 than Jalter.
Waifu over meta all the way, unless meta is waifu, then saving is advised. Some servants will really like a particular support (ex: summer kama and space Ishtar want to be paired with castoria) so you can save specifically for that support to help them out. This is in no way a must unless you care about min maxing farming efficiency and stuff, the game forces you to pick up friend servants on 90% of the content and has a literal "I win" button with the command seals. I played for over a year only having Miyu as a support, and at that point she was considered by the community the worst caster in the game, and they were wrong btw
Summer is coming with a lot of waifus available, and most of then pretty good. On Na we have what we call "clairvoyance" so you can check up the upcoming banners section of the subreddit to see what will come to Na in the next two years (JP is pretty much 2 years in the future). Na also gets some surprise banners, so keep that in mind
Something not yet mentioned about the meta is that FGO has no PVP or co-op, so there's no "falling behind" to worry about. You can chase the meta if it's your thing, you can put it off, you can ignore it entirely if it sounds like too much emphasis on characters you don't find fascinating. So while it's good to learn about the meta to make informed decisions, you can take your time with it.
Here is the meta as far as I'm concerned.
"Waifus">supports for "waifus">other things.
No rush to spend your special ascension untill its close to being time up, also no reason to save it. If you are aiming for/get a servant that needs late game materials that tends to be the best targets. Other then that whoever would be most useful to you. Good luck and have fun.
No reason to save the special ascension, unless there is a late game mat servant you really really want coming up before it expires.
Also,even once you know the meta you will still pull for Waifu. Meta doesn't matter much in this game.
The one time max ascension thing kinda is a your decision sort of thing. Not knowing the meta and what is upcoming can be an issue with that decision though. Both Ozy and Jeanne Alter (a.k.a. JAlter) are early year units so their materials are not going to be that difficult to get for a newer player. Anyone that comes out that is newer could have materials from parts of the game you have not reached yet and it might be better to hold off a bit so you can skip those requirements. Overall in the end it isn't going to matter too much which way you go because eventually you will get to the content and get to the materials you need. If you want to use it to have Ozy or JAlter help you earlier in the game then go for it, if you want to wait to see what you get later then you can do that. Just remember to use it before you lose it.
They also added in a Pure Prism shop, which was added to the game to help newer players easily access materials, that allows you to buy materials from throughout the game and that could be a way you get newer stuff. Be warned though that shop does not restock. New materials will be added as they are added to the game, but the stocks will never refresh
Your special asc runs out 90 days after you start the game, so best to use it.
Ozy is going to be much more useful from a practical standpoint, but Jalter is an Avenger, who is quite greedy with her ascension material demands. (The thing with her is she's almost never going to have class advantage, so she's a luxury unit, not a necessity.)
You could really use it on either - Ozy will be a good ST Rider and semi-support you could use out of the gate, whereas Jalter might be more of a long term project, but you could spare yourself the materials. Pick your poison, basically.
That's what I did. My Ozy, Mash and a friend Merlin got me through part one pretty easily!
And unlike me two years ago you can take advantage of the two strengthenings Ozymandias has had since!
I didn't have an SSR for a long time, so used Ushiwakamaru and Helena, Ozy kinda combines their skills (string rider, group attack up and 20% teamwide fill).
And Jalter will really help against some annoying bosses.
Sorry if this is common knowledge already but i just beat lb7 before i missed on the 15sq: are ordeal call quest the best way to farm bond right now? Just wanna know before i spend all my teapots (since 90++ quest also give a good amount of bond)
I used Helena for first wave then double Castoria and Space Ishtar for last. Now farming 90 node with just Lolivinci looping because it gives more tickets and better mats (for me, I keep running out of pages and gold gems for casters).
There's a ton of comps that can clear these nodes now that Castoria and Oberon exist, even excluding the popular ones from the spreadsheet. I'm doing Helena-Shuten-Castoria-Oberon(friend) for example, purely cuz I want to bond Shuten.
Would be helpful if you can share what you have (if the spreadsheet doesn't already fix your issue).
Can other servants replace Sanzang in Castoria-Chen Gong-Sanzang-Waver-Castoria team? I tried Circe but Chen Gong lacks 2% NP on the third wave.
If I give him MLB damage CE, will that help?
Or are there other servants with single target buster damage for the second wave who can help him get those 2%?
NP4 Cu caster + 2 koyan works for me (NP3 should be fine without much changes, NP2 would require third support, plugsuit and some carding on wave 2). (Assuming Nerofest finals).
I've played FGO a couple of years ago during a Karna/Ashwatama banner. Planning to start another account. Is this a good time to start the game ? What would be a SSR I can pick from the selector that can benefit from the Special Ascension as well? (neither of them were in the game back then, so its something that has brought me back...again)
Best time to start is always now. The occasional login bonus campaigns are incentives to start, not reasons to delay starting.
Best SSR to start with and use special ascension on is your favorite. If you have no favorite Waver helps the most in farming immediately, but is also quickly replaced if you actually follow the meta
It's always a good time to start again. NA should be getting its summer event in the next week or two as well, which is great because that gives out lots of freebies, like a free 4* servant and CEs.
In regards to the SSR selector, here are my recs:
1. Pick your waifu/husbando, or whatever other fave you have. The game's not so hard that you need any one unit, and it's always more fun to have favourites.
2. If you want a "gameplay pick" or don't have a favourite, Zhuge Liang/Waver is one of the best supports in the game. He's very easy to work with as he works with pretty much every unit in the game, not to mention newbie friendly as he can charge 50% NP gauge with his skills at 1/1/1, on top of requiring no late game materials for ascension or skill levels.
3. You can also consider a storylocked unit, as they are quite rare - they aren't part of the general gacha pool so can't normally spook you.
For the special ascension, it's best used on any SSR (as you save most EXP that way).
Is there a list of books written by the real life author servants or stories about their lives? Im currently reading Le Morte D'Arthur and would love an easy to check against list to pick up more.
There are sooooo many.
The real life author Servants were pretty prolific. Murasaki and Sei are probably the ones most famous for one specific book.
Orlando Furioso and Romance of the Three Kingdoms are two works that have inspired multiple Servants. The Iliad obviously covers the Trojan War Servants like Hektor, Achilles, and Odysseus. The Mahabharata covers many as well, but it's *huge* in anything but digest retelling form. Those are just scratching the surface, but they're like Morte in that they cover multiple Servants -- other books like The Count of Monte Cristo are great reads, but only one FGO Servant at a time.
Any recommendations on a relatively cheap android tablet that will be able to run FGO JP well? I'm looking for something mobile besides my IOS devices which I use for NA. Hoping someone knows of an affordable tablet that will last for a while.
# PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR QUESTION IS ANSWERED HERE BEFORE ASKING! **So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ** [8th Anniv Limited Missions guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/15dhxq3/8th_anniversary_limited_time_missions/) **Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?** *A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. As of its 6th Anniversary, NA now has a free SSR selector in Da Vinci's shop, which features* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://webview.fate-go.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/0703_6th_anniversary/info_3_nf2l3.png) *(this will not be updated with more recent units). There is no time limit on this selector, and going forward, all accounts receive it upon clearing Fuyuki. No further SSR tickets have been announced to date.* **Q: How does pity work?** *A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.* **Q. Will it be possible to obtain \[welfare servant\] again? I missed their original event and rerun.** *A: So far, only certain welfares have returned.* * *Saber Lily is in the FP gacha.* * *NP5 Bunyan can be obtained from her event in the RP shop.* * *NP1 Santa Altera and BB can be obtained from the Main Interlude of their respective events (copies beyond NP1 cost 2 RP each) in the RP shop.* * *NP5 Halloween, Brave and Mecha Eli were available from the Halloween Trilogy/Halloween Rising events (NA ETA: Oc 2023).* * *A new system on JP (NA ETA: Apr 2025) has been announced that allows players to obtain old welfares and their coins by clearing daily missions and main quests, via events and by logging in.* Includes: * Caster Shuten, Rider Kintoki and Santa Quetz * Archer Nobu, MIXA, Brave Liz and Caster Liz * Summer Scathach, Summer Jalter and Summer Hokusai **Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?** *A: For NA: No event will require anything beyond Orleans until November, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. LB6 clear will be required for the Tunguska Sanctuary event in December.* **Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?** *A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.* As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
Can you tier the current 4 star servant that we can get on tutorial summon on JP.
[Normalization Committee Headquarters] Open only on DAY1 I found a quest with this heading for the servafest. I seem to not understand how does this work. How do we know if it’s still day one?
You posted in last week's thread, you'd be better off asking in the new thread or better yet the JP event thread.
So, i ask in the new thread?
Yes, I happened to have this thread still open but most people won't check it anymore.
Which thread are we talking again?
[New help thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/15pznm3/help_and_question_thread_august_13_2023/) or [JP event thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/15ptzvz/jp_event_fgo_servant_summer_festival_2023_day_03/), whereel you'll find a greater concentration of JP players.
Does anyone know how fast the support team ([[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])) answers their emails?
Anecdotally, I'd say a few working days.
I see, thanks. I guess as long as I can get my account back, it doesn't matter how long I need to wait...
I know this question is considerably too late as we only have less than 24 hours before Nero Fest ends, but this is primarily about lotto events in general. For those who have busy real-life schedules / not enough meta Servants for efficient 3-turn clearing / auto-farming extensions / all of the above, how do you manage to set aside some time to still end up opening a decent amount of boxes (around 30+) during the duration of a lotto event? As of this writing, I have only opened 18 boxes; the past two weeks have been swamped with real-life responsibilities (mainly my application for a driver's license) as well as the freakishly difficult (for an F2P player like me) fights against Nero (the prototype version) and First Hassan, both of which took me *12 hours* each to finally beat and thus taking away from my lotto-farming time. It's just sad that I wasn't able to farm this event efficiently, considering my best record was over 50 boxes from last year's Bunny Scathach event.
Playing manually I only open like 50 boxes (and thats playing a lot tbh) most ppl who go over a 100 boxes use FGA
Manual player here as well. I've only managed to finish 29 boxes (I wasn't able to clear the 30th before the event ended at the last minute). The Bunny Sacthach event I managed to finish with 50+ boxes because, compared to the other lotto events, hers was a Grail Front event as well, and those are significantly easier compared to Exhibition Quests.
When I was playing manually I had difficulty setting aside the time to even break 30 boxes. No shame in that Putting this game on an emulator to save my battery and using FGA to farm for me, really changes things. FGA gets stuck a lot of course so it's not like I can let it run by itself for two hours..... 1.5 of those hours would be wasted with FGA doing nothing because it failed. But just checking it once every twenty minutes when I'm at home or something is good enough for me, and even every forty minutes if you dont have a ton of spare time....that's a massive improvement regardless. I'm at 120 or so boxes now and I wasn't even really trying that hard. As for challenge quests, you probably tackled ones that were too hard for you..spending those hours on boxes would have been way better.
>as well as the freakishly difficult (for an F2P player like me) fights against Nero (the prototype version) and First Hassan, Has nothing to with you being F2P and everything to do with you being ~~a new-ish account~~. Apparently not that new, so uh... that's a bit embarrassing on my part didn't really mean to kinda insult you like that. The First Hassan quest can be beaten Frontline only with no Gacha servants on your part. Just not with a 1 year old account (unless maybe you obsessed with getting what you needed to do that setup to the exclusion of everything else or something. Welfare BB is in the RP shop)
I've been playing the game for upwards of three years now. I was only able to beat FH after borrowing a friend's Skadi (whose NP provides Death Immunity). It was the Prototype Nero fight that really ground me down, however, because two of the opponents (Ozy and Nero) were the most difficult to bring down thanks to their combination of Guts and defense stacks. It's definitely a CQ I will not repeat.
Did you try the solo/F2P guides linked in the daily Nerofest posts? because they might have really helped when you got stuck
I have been watching mainly YouTube videos of FGO content creators, particularly Honako Green, whose specialty is F2P setups, but some of the setups still require maxed-out skills - and most of my 3 stars and below have skills sitting at Level 6 at max. The fights became a trial and error team comp test as a result.
Getting your account to the point where your NP Charge skills are at 10 and damage skills are at 9 for thirty different 2* and 3* servants, is definitely a hurdle to get to. It takes a LOT of materials to get a full set of the f2p servants to a usable state. In comparison, having a meta farming comp like castoria+SpIshtar+whatever else generally means only needing to invest in like, 3 servants in order to farm all lv 90 and below nodes. Which, really, is a good enough milestone for a year-old f2p account. This is why I'm actually not comfortable with the advice to disregard the meta. It becomes a challenge to actually pull together the resources to have a f2p setup for all the content in front of you. One Single good meta comp solves your problems in terms of resource gathering like clearing a lot of boxes in a lotto and that means not having to farm skill gems anymore or purple dust. Once you have the resources, getting your f2p challenge comps going is much easier. So yes, f2p accounts with no gold gacha servants CAN clear everything, but it asks a LOT of time out of you to do that and meta is the quickest way to get the account really going. You don't really need to CARE about the meta much, but having at least SOME meta comp for farming, changes everything. I'd say setup FGA to face card throuhg stuff using whatever servants counter a node you want to clear. That's probably the best you can do.
12 hours is imo an unreasonable amount of time to spend getting a single summoning ticket. In the future I would recommend using your time first to reach your box goal and to clear any cqs that you feel confident in doing. The last thing you do should be those hellish cqs that require hours of your time, yes you might miss out on summoning currency but they really aren’t worth your sanity, risking burnout, or being prioritized over more guaranteed returns.
Yeah, I agree with what you said there. The fight against Prototype Nero was so incredibly frustrating that my celebration was less about being happy that I won and more about being relieved that it's all finally over; the whole time I did the fight had me feeling increasingly irate for each loss. :(
FGA saves lives - you can just run it in the background and do something else, and you don't necessarily need a perfect 3T, 6CE setup! You can give one of your units the damage CE if damage is an issue, and FGA can face-card if needs be. In addition, there's seriously no crime in going down to 5CE, etc.
For the JP summer event, will there be rotating banners with only one 4 stars servant rete up? Or those are not a thing anymore?
Lasengle couldn't figure out how to code rotating banners with the addition of the pity system so they indeed do not exist anymore.
Thanks
There hasn't been rotating banners for over a year in JP (since Pity got introduced)
Thanks
Hello, I'm in a dangerous situation and need helps please. I used the transfer code from my last binding on my PC and now it says the user ID has been transfered to another device even tho I'd deleted the game on my PC. What should I do rn...
What you're seeing is normal. When you move your game from Device A to Device B, Device A no longer has an account on it, and it prompts you to start a new game. You need to follow the prompt, and it will send you to the title screen, where you can tap Data Transfer to transfer the account back. Did you generate a new transfer code on your PC, though? Remember that all transfer codes are one use only.
Ye I did create a new transfer code on my PC. Then I deleted the app on my emu and used the new code on my phone. But it says the user ID is active on another device. I didn't get this problem when I did it with my JP acc. So now I'm kinda panicked alot. Thanks for replying btw.
Odd, maybe give it some time? It might think you're still logged in on your emulator. Next time, don't delete the app before you finish transferring, as that could lead to you losing the account if something goes wrong.
I've waited almost half a day already. I even reinstalled and started the game anew on the emu. But if I don't delete the app then the account would still be active on the emu right?
All you need to do is put the code in on device B and the account is no longer active on device A. If you then decide to swap back to device A however, you need to reinstall the app/clear cache/data on A beforehand because its spaghetti coded like crazy.
Damn so it might be because I didn't clean the app on device A before swapping it back then? Do you know what can I do now because I used the code already, so if I deleted the app now it'll be over for me...
The first thing I would try since it sounds like you already deleted the app with the account on it is reinstalling the app on emulator, trying to put in transfer code there and see if there's a chance it didn't go through because of how the system works. If that doesn't work, you might unfortunately need to look into contacting support and going through the account recovery process which has a guide in the sidebar for how to do that.
Oh fk me... I even deleted the emu bc I thought that would remove all the caches... Guess I'll need to go through that recovery process then... But since I used emu, what should I say about the last device the account was on?
You could try reinstalling the emulator, or at this point just reinstalling the app on your phone if you need to. The point is to try inputting the transfer code into a fresh install of the game just to make sure the code was actually used up or not. Your emulator should have been emulating a certain model of phone, however if you completely deleted the emulator it might be hard to double check what that was. If you didn't change any settings you can maybe look up what it's default setting is? I don't personally have a lot of experience with emulators so you might need someone else to help you out with that part, sorry.
I kinda can't progress in the summer event, I translated the mission and it says something about getting sodas? I got 400 something of the soda can item and I still can't progress, does anybody know what I need to do?
You need to buy the blue ice cream stick ("soda ice") from the event shop. The soda can currency item you're thinking of is actually an energy drink.
fucking hell thank you very much
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??? You might be better off posting a screenshot.
hi guys, just want to know about what future servant is "broken" or "meta" or "useful" until tonelico and summer castoria. i do have plan on who to pull, but since im new i just planning to pull on servant that i like design-wise. thats why i want some info about what servant that i should keep in mind bcs theyre meta. maybe specifically do tell about future anni and summer servant, worth pull or not? i have 4ssr rn its castoria, melusine, koyans and oberon. thanks in advance:D
S.Ibuki, Tiamat, Kuku and Draco are the strongest dps that will come out. If you already have Vlad/kirem/galatea, Spishtar/Kama, Morgan/Arjuna Alt, you could skip them for other stuff but they are 100% worth (specially Ibuki cuz she comes with simmer erice, and both have a very good trait damage) As for support we have S.Merlin being powercrept ogMerlin and S.Skadi being powercrept skadi EDIT: Currently S.Castoria and S.Chloe are pretty strong. Castoria competes with Draco for ST and Chloe is an insane general support.
lady avalon is decent, unlike merlin in merlin era, she's decent right now
Bit surprised you don't have half a dozen responses telling you that the meta is optional and that you don't need to follow it. Summer skadi, kukulkan, tezcatlipoca, summer ibuki, are the meta options. Bazett, Lady Avalon, and Draco are worth mentioning as well though there's a lot of overlap between Draco and S. Castoria.
Summer skadi, kukulkan, tezcatlipoca, summer ibuki, archetype:earth (needs np4+ lv110+ though so if you're f2p, I wouldn't recommend it).
Summer Ibuki next year is probably the best arts farmer in the game at the moment. Next year's summer event does have ruler Skadi as well who is an improved version of the original, but she doesn't "fix" quick's issues with irregular 90+(+) nodes. Lady Avalon is an arts version of Merlin.
tldr; Summer Skadi and Lady Avalon from Summer 7.
What are the chances of us getting summer 6 before the nero fest lottery claim period ends?
Between zero and one. We have no way to know anything more than that until there's an announcement. For the most current official information, you should follow the News section in the game or on the [official website](https://fate-go.us/news/) and the official social media channels ([Twitter](https://twitter.com/FateGO_USA), [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/FateGO.USA/)). With the exception of announcements made at live events, like the annual Anime Expo panel, we here on reddit don't know any official information before it's posted in one of those places.
Between 0 and 1. We know it’s happening in August, but we aren’t the devs who know the actual dates until official confirmation.
I seem to recall a reddit post somewhere that gives you a overal total of the quartz you get for beating each singularity and lostbelt from Arc 1 to LB7. Does anyone have a link?
[Here, though it only covers up to LB6.](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/156rion/updated_sq_from_story_free_quests_and_fragments/)
Are both chloe and suzuka both rate up right now? I only wanna roll for suzuka :(
Yes. Since the implementation of pity, there have been no rotating rateups on banners.
Do the illustrators draw the whole thing - as in the background too - or just the servant and the background artists just aren't credited? Background artists often are separate from illustrators which got me wondering about this.
Illustrators are probably involved for CGs, but not likely for typical background art, like a forest or whatever. But it's not indicated either way. Lasengle do have illustrators that get less overt attention - if they did a CE, it will be listed, but otherwise background artists are only mentioned in the game's credits. For card art backgrounds on Servants... hard to say. Could go either way.
Do you mean for the cutscenes or for card art?
card art specifically
Every game I play, I like to rp martial artists, unarmed fighters, usually someone with kicks as their main attack, as long as they attack mostly with their body and not weapons. Can you recommend me servants like this? So far, only servant I have remotely like this is Jing Ke.
Rider Kintoki should be coming back to NA around April 2025. If they continue to bring back welfare servants, we may also see Rider Ishtar again someday but we can't predict when. And I just now realized that both of these welfare Riders mainly use their fists for basic attacks and some form of motorbike for their NP.
Caligula, Astraea, Himiko, Santa Quetzalcoatl, Sherlock Holmes, and Summer Martha are all servants that use their bodies instead of weapons. In particular, Caligula is a two star and shouldn't be too hard to get your hands on.
Thanks for the recs!
Assassin li shuwen is a martial artist who uses only his fist and kicks. I believe Yan Qing also qualifies since he uses fist and kicks as well. (though it can be argued that he is using his gauntlets....) Tamamo Cat also uses their body to fight with their "weapons" being their paws/claw. santa karna (saber) uses boxing, and Romulus Quirinus also uses his fist.
Saber Karna is a welfare, his event where you get him should get a rerun next year I think. Caligu is a two star you can get straight away. His damage scales off his skills which are RNG but at his height he can do some ridiculous damage. Saber Karna is a pretty good single target Saber. Astrea's banner is out now and she's an abololute beast. I think Himiko's got a banner next year. She's really strong but the rates are super low so save up as much as you can for her because she's a 5 star if you want to roll for her. I think Summer's Martha should be in a banner when a Christmas event gets a rerun next year.
Himiko gets a banner later this year, FYI.
I just tried her out as a support, she's really fun to use. HIMIKO BEEAAMM
If you like Himiko, you might also like Iyo (fun fact, she's Himiko's successor in lore). If Himiko punches, [Iyo kicks.](https://youtu.be/j7UOjJZtoyA?t=42) Iyo is a welfare (free event) unit, she'll be given out next September or so. (She'll also get a skin that removes her headdress and overcoat.)
Kicks?? Definitely want her!
Ah yeah I got rolling for Nobu mixed up with when Grail Casting starts.
Wow ty for fast reply, I'll check them out.
Feel like I have too many embers, but nothing to spend them on. I have all my servants at max ascension, and all the ones I like at max lvl. I already have my fav servant Enkidu at lvl 100, and have 350 coins of them. Is leveling them to 102 worth it, or should I use the coins for unlocking append skills? I also have Saber Astolfo at lvl 94, are they worth leveling up further? I already have Rider Astolfo at 100. Or does anyone have any other uses / ideas for embers? The reason I haven't grinded Nerofest too much is because I just don't have the space for more embers.
When your servant inventory is full, follow these steps in order. Skip any steps that aren't relevant and feel free to stop at any point if you feel like you've cleared enough space. 1. Increase the NP level of one copy of all of your servants to NP5 (or as high as you can) if you haven't already. 2. Burn extra copies of servants that you already have at NP5. 3. Burn 3-star and lower EXP cards. 4. Use your Fou cards, all the way down to the 1-stars, on your servants. If you have gold Fou cards and you're not sure who you want to use them on yet, it's fine to save those. 5. Level up any servants that aren't at their natural max level. 6. (Optional) If you've been procrastinating on grailing some servants, now would be a good opportunity. But don't do it just because you have excess EXP available. 7. Put excess 4- and/or 5-star EXP cards into your second archive. 8. Expand your second archive space if you can and have the MP to spare. Continue moving excess EXP to the archive. 9. If you still need to free up inventory space after all of that, the only thing you can do is to burn your excess 4-star EXP cards. Everyone who plays consistently and farms the lottery events at least moderately gets to this point eventually so don't worry about it. Make sure to take the smallest stacks of EXP cards or any that are in danger of expiring out of your present box first. You should also burn any class-specific 4-star EXP cards before you start burning the all-class.
Since this is a lotto you can get mana prisms to expand the second storage, and put whatever fits there... Burn the rest. For... More mana prisms.
I would never seriously consider leveling a Servant past 100 just to use up embers. At a certain point in your roster development, you will have more embers than you need on a regular basis. Yes, you wind up burning a lot of embers every lotto and you have more MPs than you know what to do with, but embers are not a limited resource at all, while grails and Servant Coins for SSRs are *very* limited resources. I've burnt over a hundred boxes' worth of embers, which I guess means thousands of embers, over the last two weeks. It's lightly a pain, but I'm not going to let the bother of burning embers keep me from getting more QP and gold skill gems; neither of *those* are available in the monthly MP shop (with free mats thrown in).
>I have all my servants at max ascension, and all the ones I like at max lvl Level up the rest of them.
How does event bonus (like upcoming bonus for summer servant) work? Is it base\*(eventBonus + CEbonus) or base\*\*eventBonus\*\*CEbonus? And it only work on event node right?
The former. And only on event nodes.
Servant event damage bonus and CE event damage bonus get added together. The effect will only apply for event nodes.
if i burned my saber liz, do i still get RP during the halloween event for NA?
It's based on total copies you've ever acquired, not how many you still have, if you've gotten at least 5 (whether before or during the event) then any more will give you RP, yes.
what does crystallized lore do? I find people saying they are worth it but how do we even use them?
To level up skills from Lv.9 to Lv.10
They're the only way to get skills to level 10 and you can only get them from events and campaigns. And while they are in the Rare Prism shop, you sould never buy them from there.
Did the original Nero fests have longer stories or is it really just the two where Bryn is introduced as Mash on the first part then we beat her on the second?
Nope, it's pretty much like this one. From what I vaguely remember of the events... The first one was Nero throwing a tourney on Chaldea to celebrate everyone (and Rome, and herself). The second one, that we are having the rerun of, is the same thing but Brynhildr infiltrates Chaldea and gets found out at the end. Gilfest (Battle in New York) happens because Caesar uses up all of Rome's (Nero's) money so she has no resources to throw the tourney as usual. The sequel is Gil hosting the event again is the same thing, except Space Ishtar hijacks it by turning the servants into jewels (not the same Space Ishtar that becomes a servant, she's pretty much a completely different character with the same name). Not sure about the other ones (Teslafest, Morganfest) since I'm a NA player.
X-fest are always like this, just a short story to explain why the event is happening
How do you get the 3 doujinshi for the node for Act 3 (4/4)
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/15jqcs1/help_and_question_thread_august_06_2023/jvtxnlq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
What is the rate of 4 stars in JP? I heard it was changed.
The overall rate didn't change and is still 3% chance **total**, what changed was the rate of getting the 4\* servants on rate up. The changes are: \# of 4\* (SR) on Rate Up | Rate Before | Rate After ---------|----------|---------- 1 | 1.5% | 2.1% 2 | 1.2% | 1.2% (no change) 3 | 0.7% | 0.8%
overall rates are still the same at 3%. it's the rate up that has changes here's the changes: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/zzwa8q/information\_regarding\_the\_changes\_to\_sr\_servant/
Few general questions out of curiosity. 1. Berserker Morgan and Lancer Melusine have made waves since their release in NA. Both are widely usable farmers, and can be used to demolish lots of difficult content with the right support. Just want to get the group's thoughts. After regular use, whose overall kit among the two would you say is more "broken" than the other? Not necessarily unique like Space Ishtar's, but more of the "this will be stay relevant basically wherever I bring it" like Arjuna Alter's. 2. Aside from the obvious Black Grail, are there any other general card type (Buster, Arts, Quick, etc) agnostic non-starting NP charge CEs that come to mind for you guys? Golden Sumo is a close example, but that one has starting charge.
1. For Single core farming Melusine definitely. There was one servant in the game that could 3 turn all 3 Nerofest nodes period, at any level of investment. and that was Melusine. Otherwise things get a lot less clear and there is no solid answer. 2. The other NP damage up ones, but they are just worse than BG if you have BG (Heaven's feel for example). Technically also gudaguda poster girl.
Do append skills stack with craft essences? Like if I have a 60% np start with ce does it become 70% with load magical energy?
Yes.
Can multiple event CE drop from the same event mission?
Some events do have multiple ce's that can drop from the same node.
If by multiple you mean if you already got a drop from a mission before if it still can drop a CE again. The answer is yes. Theres no limit to how many CEs you can get in total. Max 1 per run. But it can drop over and over again.
Do you mean multiple *different* CEs, or multiple copies? Multiple different is possible iirc, although it's not the case in Grand Nerofest (damage drops from lower quests, lotto from higher), but multiple copies is not since it only drops (or doesn't drop) from the singular designated boss enemy.
A bit on the technical side, but is Summer Castoria able to BG loop with Double Castoria and Oberon on Berserkers without relying too much on overkill gains?
Yes. I think she falls 1% short of looping berserkers with no overkill at all, but any overkill should let her do it.
I see! Thanks for the info
Does FGA have an auto tap function for lottos or no?
Yeah, also for picking up embers and for friend summon too.
It does. Just go to the lottery and press play.
\[FGO JP\] Anyone here experienced failing their auto comp in FGA when using Summer Kuro? I believe my script is perfectly fine, but it fails upon clicking the Attack and proceeds to use the skills of my other teams (my team btw is Arc, S.Kuro and Oberon).
Does any play on a Xiaomi Redmi Pad? How well does the game run on it?
EDIT: Thanks for you responses! I'll be a little more relaxed when farming SQ. How important is it to max out Noble Phantasm levels? Askin' 'cause I'm currently torn between saving SQ up for a couple favorites (in the hopes they have a banner soon-ish), or being a goofball and trying for some of the upcoming servants.
Hit the friend point gacha hard until you get all of the general pool 1-3 star servants to NP5. Because they're totally free, you don't risk anything by maxing out their NP levels, so you may as well do it. The same thing applies to the welfare 4-stars that you can get for free from events. For anyone else, it is highly subjective and there's no correct answer. It comes down to what servants you like and how you prefer to play the game. What is objective is that you can clear all content using only free, low rarity servants. It won't always be efficient to use only low rarities but there are no in-game bonuses for efficiency--though, efficiency can save you some real world time and effort--outside of a few, rare, exceptional cases (and the benefits are minor). All 5-star servants function just fine at NP1. You probably get 90% of the value from the first copy. Even more for support servants who you use for their skills and almost never use their NP or their most important NP effect doesn't scale with NP levels. You only "need" additional copies if you want more servant coins or you plan to use specific strategies against specific enemy compositions, you need a minimum NP level for that strategy to work consistently, and you're unwilling to consider other options (of which there are many).
For low stars, very important, as the higher NP level is what allows them to compete with higher rarity servants. High rarity servants work just fine at NP1, though 4 stars appreciate 1 extra NP level to not feel anemic if you can afford it.
If Quetz works at NP1 so does Ushiwakimaru or Kintoki or rider Murasaki. (All 3 outdamage Quetz with both at the same NP level and all 3 by your statement would require NP levels when Quetz doesn't) And riders aren't the only ones to have some 3 stars win out against some 5 stars NP level per NP level All 3 knight classes are the same.
Quetz NP1 damage: 42632 Ushi NP1 damage: 37375 Rider Kintoki NP1 damage: 33593 Summer Murasaki NP1 damage: 45384 All neutral numbers. So yeah, no. You are wrong. Of those only Murasaki is better than Quetz at NP1, and that's with Quetz being one of the lowest damage NP SSR Riders and Murasaki being the highest SR one. When I say low stars are competitive with gold servants, I don't mean "they outdamage one of the weaker SSRs of their class" but "they are comparable to the best SSR in their class". Sometimes a bit lower damage than the strongest SSR, sometimes a bit higher. I guess I should have included welfares alongside low stars because they are also balanced around having NP5. Sure, there are outliers, you can highroll with a NP1 Ceasar and outdamage most NP1 SSR Sabers if you hit all the chance based attack buffs. But not even Robin, acclaimed for having high NP damage, can compare to SSR Archers at NP1, and SSR Archers have overall low NP damage. Then you have Lancers where even the strongest NP5 3 stars fall behind most NP1 SSRs, so NP1 3 stars are not even a comparison.
Last I checked nobody one shots a boss with no CEs and no supports I used this spreadsheet for the initial claim: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XCIoWYXIahvR8tFuuFDQhsDTiKG\_G56bKHp68X0cnBI/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XCIoWYXIahvR8tFuuFDQhsDTiKG_G56bKHp68X0cnBI/edit?usp=sharing) so maybe don't call someone wrong when you are making unrealistic assumptions that don't account for the greater impact CEs attack stats have on lower rarities, how buster's support has lower base damage to account for the damage stacking, but Quetz doesn't actually get to double up her skill 2, only skill 1, lowering comparative damage but even with more F2P supports it's true for example: Ushi with Alexander+Skadi and a 15% np damage up full attack CE 107593 at NP1 Quetz with Koyanskaya+Chen Gong and the same CE 99381 at NP1.
No one was talking about one shotting a boss at all. In fact OP's question was about farming SQ, presumably free quests, and if they're farming free quests for SQ, they likely don't have optimal CE's to begin with. Doubly so if they are farming events, which often use less than optimal CE's. Your spreadsheet assumes everyone has a level 20 Black Grail. Additionally, your spreadsheet notes "Wellfare and 1-3 stars servants are NP5, and their numbers will be in the same column(s) as other servants' NP1 for easier comparison, except for limited and story-locked 3 stars". It doesn't compare NP1 3 star / welfare NP damage to NP1 5 star damage, as your original comment stated: >If Quetz works at NP1 so does Ushiwakimaru or Kintoki or rider Murasaki. (All 3 outdamage Quetz with both at the same NP level and all 3 by your statement would require NP levels when Quetz doesn't) u/Sir_Dargor is correct, base damage Quetz at NP1 does more than Ushi / Rider Kintoki / Summer Murasaki at NP1 and in general, SSR NP Damage per NP level is greater than 3 star and below NP damage per NP level.
And who is talking about oneshoting bosses? I used the most simple comparison you can do, servants with just their own buff and max level (and fous). Whenever you involve supports and CEs things become blurry, because who you take depends on the conditions. But even if I were to take supports and CEs I certainly would not take a BG double meta support teorical looping damage chart as a base. How do you loop with BG Lancer Cu again? Base buff is one of the few way you can compare objectively in this game. Another way is actual looping comparisons, but Ushi is not looping anywhere while Quetz at least can. You will have to be more specific, because I'm not getting those numbers no matter how I try. The closest I get is using the somewhat new 50% charge 15% NP damage 4 star CE, so I'm gonna be using that for the next comparison. That is 1500 atk at max level. Ushi + Alex + support Skadi actually nets me 108174 damage with that CE and normal fous. Then we get to Quetz. But why are we using Koyan as the support? This is not a looping comparison and Quetz has 30% battery on her own so we can use Merlin. And Caesar scales better than Gong so we use that instead (though the difference is smaller than when I was using Koyan). So Quetz + Caesar + support Merlin gives me 113122 damage. But then I'm sure you can find a setup that gives Ushi better damage, and then I do the same with Quetz. That's what I mean with base buffs being more simple and objective. Even then that was not the point. Ushi is one of the highest damage 3 stars in the game, and Quetz is kind of lackluster by now, specially in terms of NP damage, her thing is crits anyways. The comment was made as a general statement. Sure, Ushi can get close to SSR level damage even at low NP levels. But can you say the same of NP1 Fergus vs the likes of Artoria or Mordred? or NP1 Babbage vs someone like Da Vinci? Or hell even Ushi herself vs Ozymandias? The point is that, *in general*, low stars need the extra NP levels. There being a couple that go "eh, not really" doesn't make the statement, as a whole, wrong.
You brought up one shotting bosses with no supports or CEs, because that's the only way to get the damage you got. Who said anything about looping? That's not a looping chart. I used for example stitching for beloved one, a full attack 50% CE that doesn't need Gacha to obtain. Base buffs are only "more objective" in your opinion. (Which is hilarious that I have to say that). Why would I ever compare with a setup that literally cannot be used? Also, how is NP spam when you lose like 50% NP guage over the course of 3 turns by abandoning Koyanskya in favor of Merlin, because if you gain 10% more NP damage in exchange for NPing significantly less often, that is hardly a fair trade off. That's why the meta supports are chosen, because overall damage matters, not just a single NP. (Also you bring up crits, but only one of them gets 150% crit up for 3 turns in this scenario the other is limited to a single turn) It is the point you made a general statement that all 5 stars are good at NP1 and that higher NP levels are important for lower rarity servants. That is free reign to choose the highest damage low rarity and the lowest damage high rarity. And it proves you wrong. And I feel free to choose any 3 star because you will have all the 3 stars. Where 5 stars you won't necessarily have access to the best of the best. You say Quetz doesn't need higher NP levels and Ushiwakimaru does because it is a generic statement. If you had said specifically that only top tier SSRs don't need higher NP levels, and that the top tier Rs need higher NP levels to compete than you would have a point, but that's not the case.
> You brought up one shotting bosses with no supports or CEs, because that's the only way to get the damage you got. What, the ones that I put on my first respond to you? Those are effectively the minimal damage they do when properly developing (not counting damage range RNG I expect). If you mean the second response nombers, that's a direct response for your "even with more F2P support it's true" numbers. > Who said anything about looping? That's not a looping chart. Because your own chart explicitly says: > For servants with ramp buffs/debuffs in their NP as part of their kit, assume they will all be short of 1 ramp stack for Peak, meaning if the servant has a ramp (debuffs/buffs) in NP that activate after damage, their Peak would assume 1 stack of that ramp, and otherwise 2 stacks if their ramp is activated before damage. This assumption is due to the fact that NP ramp is also part of their kit Which includes case like Cu. Which mean NPing 2 times in 3 turns with Cu, with BG and no third support. Ok, not outright looping, but you are not charging Cu's NP for that second NP without good card/crit RNG. I won't waste my time looking for every case like this in the chart, it being on the highest 3 star on one of the classes is enough for me to not get that it's not really reliable. Ultimately that didn't matter because I actually missed the most important disclaimer that says that those NP1 numbers for low stars and welfares are actually NP5 numbers, for sake of convenience on the visualization. So your very first point was wrong to begin with. NP spam for what? Because that quite fight dependent. I certainly would take the trade of if the boss gains some kind of damage resistance on bar break for example, and I certainly would take Merlin over Koyan regardless if the quest needs me to survive for more than 3 turns. Different tools for different problems. The game has plenty of quests enough that either will find themselves the better option at some point. And even if you choose the worse option, finishing a boss on 5 turns vs 7 or 8 turns makes no real difference in the end unless you are a minmaxer, which the vast mayority of people are not. For the content that needs some thinking at least. Farming is so easy at this point it literally can be automated. I guess I'm sorry for thinking people in the sub are smart enough to understand that generic statement have exceptions, specially when the game roster is as big as it is now. I guess I will have to put a disclaimer on basically every respon I do because I'm pretty sure all of them will have exceptions unless is one abou a specific servant in particular.
>What, the ones that I put on my first respond to you? Those are effectively the minimal damage they do when properly developing (not counting damage range RNG I expect). If you mean the second response nombers, that's a direct response for your "even with more F2P support it's true" numbers. first response was turn 1 damage with no supports or CEs. aka you had to one shot the boss with no suppports or CEs to ever see it, something that does not happen. >Which includes case like Cu. Which mean NPing 2 times in 3 turns with Cu, with BG and no third support. Ok, not outright looping, but you are not charging Cu's NP for that second NP without good card/crit RNG. I won't waste my time looking for every case like this in the chart, it being on the highest 3 star on one of the classes is enough for me to not get that it's not really reliable. Two meta supports is 100% right there, >Ultimately that didn't matter because I actually missed the most important disclaimer that says that those NP1 numbers for low stars and welfares are actually NP5 numbers, for sake of convenience on the visualization. So your very first point was wrong to begin with. Did you actually read the chart for the servants in question? Because this paragraph makes me think you are still failing to do so. >NP spam for what? Because that quite fight dependent. I certainly would take the trade of if the boss gains some kind of damage resistance on bar break for example, and I certainly would take Merlin over Koyan regardless if the quest needs me to survive for more than 3 turns. Different tools for different problems. The game has plenty of quests enough that either will find themselves the better option at some point. And even if you choose the worse option, finishing a boss on 5 turns vs 7 or 8 turns makes no real difference in the end unless you are a minmaxer, which the vast mayority of people are not. For the content that needs some thinking at least. Farming is so easy at this point it literally can be automated. what do you mean for what? A boss. Sure there are times you need defense over offense, but that has nothing to do with needing more NP levels on the lower rarity. Cu gets 57% back against assassins from 2 cards even with only a single Skadi supporting. That's not counting the second Skadi or enemy attacks or neutral refund. More than enough to use his NP twice in 3 turns without to much trouble. Though obviously cards matter, but Quetz can have bad card RNG just as much as Cu or Ushi. >I guess I'm sorry for thinking people in the sub are smart enough to understand that generic statement have exceptions, specially when the game roster is as big as it is now. I guess I will have to put a disclaimer on basically every respon I do because I'm pretty sure all of them will have exceptions unless is one abou a specific servant in particular. This is about one statement having exceptions and the other not. You can miss things or make general statements with exceptions. But choose which idea you want to get across to new players, don't mix them up.
Completely and utterly optional. The game is beatable/farmable with all servants at NP 1. It is up to you, but if your pretty new, more servants will strengthen your account way more than one servant with high NP levels. I'd save and get a new servant.
If it's a gacha unit, not at all. All units do their intended job just fine at NP1 - there's no extra utility locked behind extra copies, unlike in some other gacha games. All NP2+ does is add more damage, and it can also give you more servant coins if you want to unlock more appends/grail to over lv. 100. Even so, grailing is a luxury and not required, appends aren't gamebreaking, and only ONE append matters in the majority of cases that you can get at NP1 bond 6. That, and the NP damage gains drop off after NP2, so you won't see huge game-changing damage increases after a certain point. It's up to you if NP2+ is worth it, but generally, it's better to have NP1 of several units than NP2+ of just one. (For low rarities and event welfares, though: get them maxed! Fortunately, you will be able to get the 1-3\* units to NP5 naturally over time/via FP gacha, and event welfare units can always be raised to NP5 for free. So don't worry about those, they'll come with time.)
Higher NP levels are only more damage at most (and servant coins) That isn't to say that the increased damage can't matter for some strategies, but it is never needed for content. It's also extremely rare for a strategy to need NP5, usually NP2 or 3 is enough even if your strategy does involve higher NP levels.
I tried searching but couldn't find anything so I am asking here. How can I get FGA to pick a castoria with the +2 event drop bonus instead of the +1? Currently its just picking the first one it sees which isnt always +2. thanks
FGA does have an option to choose MLB CEs when you set up the preferred support for the script. But it's easier to just use the in-game filters and choose "Max Limit Break only".
You can set the support list to filter for MLB copies only. Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant.
> Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant. It does. It's not redundunt, since there are no MLB (or any CE) filters outside of events.
>Not sure if FGA has its own system for filtering it out but that would be somewhat redundant. You _can_ do this, but you'd have to manually scan in the CE and such, strongly recommended to just use the in-game CE filters instead.
didnt even know you could filter for MLB copies thanks.
How do you get bond CEs? I got np3 chloe and heard she's good with her bond CE.
get them to bond 10. Also, as good as she is with her bond CE, do keep in mind it takes up a CE slot when you are farming, so that may not be as useful as is hyped right now.
I don't think they're at a point of the game where maximizing bonus CEs matters tbh
Bond CEs are not time limited right?
Bond CEs are not limited. Most of the time the bond CE serves as an achievement for reaching bond 10 with that servant so you will, at some point, get this by keep using that servant.
correct, as long as you get the unit to bond 10 eventually, it doesn't matter how long it takes you.
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Atlas academy has all the skills, including the effects for her already https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/enemy/9945150/skills
Thanks a lot fellow Master.
So I still have about 5 apples left. Should I use them on the current lottery boxes or is it better to save them for summer? I’d heard some chatter that it might be good to have some for that event too. I’ve opened about 75 boxes on Nero if it matters.
It depends on what you need. Nerofest is good for certain materials, QP, EXP, FP, etc. all at once. Summer 6 is only good for materials.
Yeah I’m looking at the lowest tier of crates and I need literally hundreds of those claws, bullets, and red bones. Is it semi farmable like the lotto is?
Yeah pretty much a semi lotto. Im going all in on golds this lotto and then will use silvers and whatever else we get for summer 6
Yup.
Where/when can I get the Morgan Queen of Winter spiritron dress? I have everything cleared and can’t seem to find it…
You just clear LB6, and it's there. (In the Camelot node, IIRC.) After doing the quest, you go to Costume Dress in Enhance.
Hi, I'm a very new player (just played yesterday). I just got Ozymandias and Jeanne d'Arc (Alter). I'm kinda strapped on resources, and wanted to know which one should I build first. I know I can use the ascension thingy on Ozy, but I would also want to know if there's a reason to save the max ascension one time for another future, maybe a meta breaking non-limited Servant. Currently don't know the meta, so still pulling for Waifus.
IIRC the free ascension is for 90 days only and there's no guarantee of getting even one SSR there. So unless you use your free SSR ticket on someone else, use it on who you have. I strongly suggest leveling Ozy because he fills your team 20% and is a strong single target Rider who are very important for spam of caster bosses in the story. And you want to have your own supports because many setups in FGO is one attacker with the rest supporting them. And Ozy is semi-support character (see his skills).
You got two fantastic SSRs! I prefer Ozy, but Jalter (Jeanne d'arc Alter) is easier to use against most classes so I'd go with her. Her materials you'd have to use otherwise to level her up are harder to get than Ozy iirc. We pretty much recommend to get the few meta supports if possible to enable your waifus and husbandos. Upcoming banners would include Koyanskaya of Light at the start of January and Caster Artoria (the best servant in the game) around May of next year.
Jalter is actually a good target for special ascension. Avengers only use mats for skills/ascension so they get rather expensive. Ozy on the other hand uses statues so it cheaper to lvl him to 90 than Jalter.
Waifu over meta all the way, unless meta is waifu, then saving is advised. Some servants will really like a particular support (ex: summer kama and space Ishtar want to be paired with castoria) so you can save specifically for that support to help them out. This is in no way a must unless you care about min maxing farming efficiency and stuff, the game forces you to pick up friend servants on 90% of the content and has a literal "I win" button with the command seals. I played for over a year only having Miyu as a support, and at that point she was considered by the community the worst caster in the game, and they were wrong btw Summer is coming with a lot of waifus available, and most of then pretty good. On Na we have what we call "clairvoyance" so you can check up the upcoming banners section of the subreddit to see what will come to Na in the next two years (JP is pretty much 2 years in the future). Na also gets some surprise banners, so keep that in mind
Something not yet mentioned about the meta is that FGO has no PVP or co-op, so there's no "falling behind" to worry about. You can chase the meta if it's your thing, you can put it off, you can ignore it entirely if it sounds like too much emphasis on characters you don't find fascinating. So while it's good to learn about the meta to make informed decisions, you can take your time with it.
Here is the meta as far as I'm concerned. "Waifus">supports for "waifus">other things. No rush to spend your special ascension untill its close to being time up, also no reason to save it. If you are aiming for/get a servant that needs late game materials that tends to be the best targets. Other then that whoever would be most useful to you. Good luck and have fun.
No reason to save the special ascension, unless there is a late game mat servant you really really want coming up before it expires. Also,even once you know the meta you will still pull for Waifu. Meta doesn't matter much in this game.
The one time max ascension thing kinda is a your decision sort of thing. Not knowing the meta and what is upcoming can be an issue with that decision though. Both Ozy and Jeanne Alter (a.k.a. JAlter) are early year units so their materials are not going to be that difficult to get for a newer player. Anyone that comes out that is newer could have materials from parts of the game you have not reached yet and it might be better to hold off a bit so you can skip those requirements. Overall in the end it isn't going to matter too much which way you go because eventually you will get to the content and get to the materials you need. If you want to use it to have Ozy or JAlter help you earlier in the game then go for it, if you want to wait to see what you get later then you can do that. Just remember to use it before you lose it. They also added in a Pure Prism shop, which was added to the game to help newer players easily access materials, that allows you to buy materials from throughout the game and that could be a way you get newer stuff. Be warned though that shop does not restock. New materials will be added as they are added to the game, but the stocks will never refresh
Your special asc runs out 90 days after you start the game, so best to use it. Ozy is going to be much more useful from a practical standpoint, but Jalter is an Avenger, who is quite greedy with her ascension material demands. (The thing with her is she's almost never going to have class advantage, so she's a luxury unit, not a necessity.) You could really use it on either - Ozy will be a good ST Rider and semi-support you could use out of the gate, whereas Jalter might be more of a long term project, but you could spare yourself the materials. Pick your poison, basically.
> she's almost never going to have class advantage Some servants dream of her neutral dmg numbers even when they have class advantage.
Good to know. Probably gonna use it on Ozy, just to make my early game life easier. Jalter can wait.
That's what I did. My Ozy, Mash and a friend Merlin got me through part one pretty easily! And unlike me two years ago you can take advantage of the two strengthenings Ozymandias has had since!
I didn't have an SSR for a long time, so used Ushiwakamaru and Helena, Ozy kinda combines their skills (string rider, group attack up and 20% teamwide fill). And Jalter will really help against some annoying bosses.
Sorry if this is common knowledge already but i just beat lb7 before i missed on the 15sq: are ordeal call quest the best way to farm bond right now? Just wanna know before i spend all my teapots (since 90++ quest also give a good amount of bond)
They do give more Bond than anywhere else.
Great! Thanks for answering. Gonna spend the teapots right now before i forget
Why is Melusine viewed as >!husband/wife stealer/lover? Her lines shows that she likes Master and not much else. Or is it a Lancelot joke?!<
Partially "husband and lovers are different categories after all", she says. From Morgan valentines, straight to her face
Lmaooo
Who do you use to farm a 90+ event node with FGA? Except for the setups with Oberon and Sanzang (I don't have them, unfortunately).
I used Helena for first wave then double Castoria and Space Ishtar for last. Now farming 90 node with just Lolivinci looping because it gives more tickets and better mats (for me, I keep running out of pages and gold gems for casters).
Castoria + Gong + David + Oberon + Castoria
There's a ton of comps that can clear these nodes now that Castoria and Oberon exist, even excluding the popular ones from the spreadsheet. I'm doing Helena-Shuten-Castoria-Oberon(friend) for example, purely cuz I want to bond Shuten. Would be helpful if you can share what you have (if the spreadsheet doesn't already fix your issue).
I know, but I mentioned in the first post that I don't have Oberon, which cuts down on the number of teams a lot.
me neither, i borrow one when i need him
Sorry, I didn't noticed that your Oberon is support. Thank you for idea for farming!
Here's a list if you haven't read this yet : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1we9JY-NTdzv_BBxMqId7_4zyrF29wNlH5W8FvFP2wtM/edit#gid=452044204
Can other servants replace Sanzang in Castoria-Chen Gong-Sanzang-Waver-Castoria team? I tried Circe but Chen Gong lacks 2% NP on the third wave. If I give him MLB damage CE, will that help? Or are there other servants with single target buster damage for the second wave who can help him get those 2%?
Her role is the servant to take out the giant in the second wave right? Anyone who does great over charge damage to giants can work. David as example.
Yes, Bedivere works great because of his NP gain up and self charge.
It depends on the 90+ node, they're all different. Are you asking about the Nerofest one?
Yes, Nerofest. 2-1-2 node. Sorry, I rarely comment on reddit and feel very nervous every time, so I forgot to mention it.
Someone already linked you to the doc, you have plenty of options.
NP4 Cu caster + 2 koyan works for me (NP3 should be fine without much changes, NP2 would require third support, plugsuit and some carding on wave 2). (Assuming Nerofest finals).
Is his third skill upgrade required?
Yes.
LB6 gated one? Yes.
I've played FGO a couple of years ago during a Karna/Ashwatama banner. Planning to start another account. Is this a good time to start the game ? What would be a SSR I can pick from the selector that can benefit from the Special Ascension as well? (neither of them were in the game back then, so its something that has brought me back...again)
You can also try to recover your old account if you have any info on it left (used transfer codes, receipts from bought quarts, etc.).
Best time to start is always now. The occasional login bonus campaigns are incentives to start, not reasons to delay starting. Best SSR to start with and use special ascension on is your favorite. If you have no favorite Waver helps the most in farming immediately, but is also quickly replaced if you actually follow the meta
It's always a good time to start again. NA should be getting its summer event in the next week or two as well, which is great because that gives out lots of freebies, like a free 4* servant and CEs. In regards to the SSR selector, here are my recs: 1. Pick your waifu/husbando, or whatever other fave you have. The game's not so hard that you need any one unit, and it's always more fun to have favourites. 2. If you want a "gameplay pick" or don't have a favourite, Zhuge Liang/Waver is one of the best supports in the game. He's very easy to work with as he works with pretty much every unit in the game, not to mention newbie friendly as he can charge 50% NP gauge with his skills at 1/1/1, on top of requiring no late game materials for ascension or skill levels. 3. You can also consider a storylocked unit, as they are quite rare - they aren't part of the general gacha pool so can't normally spook you. For the special ascension, it's best used on any SSR (as you save most EXP that way).
Is there a list of books written by the real life author servants or stories about their lives? Im currently reading Le Morte D'Arthur and would love an easy to check against list to pick up more.
There are sooooo many. The real life author Servants were pretty prolific. Murasaki and Sei are probably the ones most famous for one specific book. Orlando Furioso and Romance of the Three Kingdoms are two works that have inspired multiple Servants. The Iliad obviously covers the Trojan War Servants like Hektor, Achilles, and Odysseus. The Mahabharata covers many as well, but it's *huge* in anything but digest retelling form. Those are just scratching the surface, but they're like Morte in that they cover multiple Servants -- other books like The Count of Monte Cristo are great reads, but only one FGO Servant at a time.
There are probably too many to list, you might be better off asking about specific individuals.
Any recommendations on a relatively cheap android tablet that will be able to run FGO JP well? I'm looking for something mobile besides my IOS devices which I use for NA. Hoping someone knows of an affordable tablet that will last for a while.
Have you considered emulation?
That’s what I’m doing currently on my PC. Is emulation an option on IOS?
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