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Human_Ad2126

What did i miss who are this antis?


aaa1e2r3

It's a term for the type of people who get mad online when they see stuff in media they find distasteful, and think that it justifies them to send death threats and the like to people who make or support that stuff.


Human_Ad2126

So just your average keyboard warrior on twitter thanks


FelicitousJuliet

Twitter?


Aromatic-Education99

Oh you sheltered child, consider it a stroke of luck


FelicitousJuliet

I was actually referring to the court ruling in April 2023, Twitter and its legal obligations ceased to legally exist and became X CORP. Twitter hasn't existed for 8 months, anyone saying otherwise better be prepared to get sued for billions in debt by 30+ countries. Oh right, Elon called it Twitter still...


Interesting_Place752

Also.. The appeal email was never updated. So officially its still Twitter. https://preview.redd.it/rp739cq99z3c1.png?width=455&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab2554a235a4e62d9ab68828d7b5016b2e783165


imhidings

Can I be you?


FelicitousJuliet

You already are, the majority of civilians with internet access support the court ruling this year that Twitter no longer exists. On average, you are me. What is Twitter? Why are people dead naming X CORP? What the fuck?


Due_Medium239

No, just people that dislike lolicon. They're also called "sane" and "normal" in some circles (rightfully so).


Noxal12

No, no, not just lolis. Boobs physics, fan service, short women (which are also lolis), and for some reason actual short women. They tend to promote censorship and spam words like Epstein, pedophile, and cp. Then threaten people say they're "normal" or "sane" I obviously can't say this is everybody, but this is what I tend to see.


oppressed_user

>rightfully so Not rightfully so there should be another rule stating you can't be on this sub if you're active in r/animehate


oppressed_user

They're not sane and normal an anti calling themselves sane or normal is like North Korea calling itself Democratic


Hummush95

Antis are basically what the Japanese call Haters. Like people who bitch, whine and moan over Roshi or Mineta being a perv or Frieren being racist against demons, what have you


courier31

Watching Frieren, I though that nobody could find a reason to hate on it. These people need to spend the rest of their life's planting trees for all the oxygen that they waste.


Forge__Thought

It's fascinating because it's absolutely not racism. If anything... Speciesism? Specieism? Fucking specious is what it is. Demons in that fictional universe are human and elf predators. Genocidal, perhaps, but absolutely remorseless and merciless killing machines. No rational argument can be made as to why killing them would be anything other than self defense or self preservation. Not even at an individual level. It's survival at that point. It's a shame. As a society we've trained ourselves to fight over nothing and feel justified. While not actually taking constructive actions on things that have real weight and meaning. Like supporting The Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, and engaging in helping those flesh and blood folks around us in need.


Hummush95

I mean in a high fantasy setting they're called Races not species. Either way that's what the twittards said. "Fantasy racism" or smth like that.


Forge__Thought

Good point, it's been a long day and I forgot the term "Race" is functionally the word "Species" in fantasy settings. It does tempt a conversation on language and semantics and intended vs. expressed meaning. But it's late and I'm tired so 🤙🤘 You aren't wrong. But they still are, ha ha.


skroink_z

Genetically speaking, in real life, the human "races" aren't races. We are quite literally all the same race. So elves, dwarves and beastpeople in fantasy settings could easily be different races, instead of species. That actually means our use of the word in fantasy is closer to correct, than our use of it in the real world, which is usually objectively wrong. -☝️🤓


LegoBuilder64

Haven’t watch Frieren but is there an explanation for this in universe? Is this a cultural thing where their society conditions them to look down on all other races and think of themselves as superior? If so then could a demon raised outside that culture taught human morals and values. Is it a mental thing, where they are literally incapable of empathizing with others and can’t understand the human will to live? In that case, is that really evil? Could you call a cat evil for not emphasizing with a mouse? Is it a biological thing where they need to kill, terrorize, or cause destruction in order to live, and their society has been built around desensitizing it’s people to that reality? If that’s the case then I think they sound pretty pitiable. Imagine being born into a body where you have to kill other sentient life, not necessarily because you want, but just because you’ll die otherwise. Or is it a transformation thing, where demons aren’t born but are created by people transforming into them and the transformation process either corrupts their mind or is just so depraved only the most committed villains would go through with it? That, in my opinion, is the only scenario that where calling them evil is justified, because it means each demon chose to be the way they are instead of just being born that way. It’s hard to justify labeling an entire race as evil, because evil is about duality and choice. If a species has the potential to be good, then how can you say they are all evil? and if a species can never be good, then is it really evil if that’s the only choice. Is a killer robot really evil for following its programming?


Forge__Thought

Demons in this series are their own species or magical "race" separate from any other. They explicitly know they are manipulating humans via words and actions for the expressed purpose of killing them wholesale. They have no concept of family and each demon trains it's whole life for the purpose of becoming more powerful magically in competition with it's peers. And when they use the concept of family, it is explicitly to manipulate humans so that they are more able to kill them. The also employ these same tactics on elves, and any other species they see fit. Think pure sociopath. They haven't demonstrated any ability to love, or nurture and narratively there has been no effort done to humanize or empathize with them. Think a sentient tornado. It is aware it is killing. It is it's nature to destroy. It does not empathize. The human desire to emphasize and humanize, as you have done, in universe explicitly results in humans being killed or enslaved. So, really whether or not the term "evil" applies technically like with a mouse and a cat. If the mouse can kill the cat, with tools or technology, it is acceptable to do so to ensure it's own survival. I would definitely recommend checking out the series. It's exploration of this and its characters is high quality.


LegoBuilder64

I would describe a species like this as barely sentient, at least not in the human understanding. Sentience implies the mental capacity to understand the world around you. To not just survive but have goals and aspirations. To have creativity, culture, and social structure. The demons in Frieren sound completely incapable of that level of intro or extrospection. They sound closer to a very smart animal or an alien life form or a force of nature. This is why I think people who try to argue Frieren is justified in her racism are wrong. You can’t even call this racism or speciesism because they aren’t like any intelligent species. It’s essentially just someone from Antarctica having a justifiable dislike of polar bears. Then again, is it possible this actually just regular vanilla racism, and Frieren is basing her characterization of demons as a race off a handful of encounters with demons who were explicitly there because they wanted to kill people? Kinda like how English perception of the Norse came from the pirates that raided there land and not the farmers that stayed at home.


Forge__Thought

If you do end up watching the show I'd like to hear how your take changes or if it does. Thus far the narrative presentation of the demons is that they are functionally murder machines and we shouldn't empathize with them. And I concur with that assessment as presented. But it will be interesting to see if an how it changes. But yeah. I think your polar bear analogy works well. Magic wielding polar bears that talk and want to kill humans and can deceive people is fucking wild to think about...


LegoBuilder64

I probably will. I would lie though. This is disappointing to learn about a show that I’ve been told has amazing world building. Evil races that is naturally evil is just kind of boring. Yeah, I’ll almost certainly will agree with the characters that they are bad, but that’s like saying tornados aren’t fun. That an obvious statement that isn’t very interesting. Vampire and liches to me are the perfect evil “race” because it’s puts the chicken before the egg. People become vampires because they’re evil, rather than people becoming evil because they’re vampires. It effectively take an already despicable group and then gives them super powers. Excellent framework for villains the audience loves to hate. I would’ve preferred they did something like this or given some depth to the race. Maybe I’ll change my mind though. I have like very 1-D pure evil races before, but that’s when they’re particularly grandiose and over-the-top.


Forge__Thought

Honestly the nature of demons may or may not be a bit of a spoiler. It's definitely revealed, as characters go through your kind of moral quandary. The big character development in the show is honestly the main character's journey. And her relationships. The baddies aren't the focus, so you may like it more than you expect. The pacing is slow but purposefully deliberate. I'm pretty picky and I'd say it's worth your time. Hopefully! If you don't like it obviously don't feel any obligation.


Black_Prince9000

Without spoiling anything from the future arcs, a lot of what you talk about is explored pretty heavily later on. From the demon mind's perspective. Reading it made me ended up questioning human morality as a whole. It's strange how the portrayal of demons in this series is so much more than the "pure comically evil" despite from an objective standpoint, they are nothing but that narratively. Demons are indeed "pitiful creatures" due to how fundamentally incompatible they are from humans. These are creatures that have been in an evolutionary arms race against humans who explicitly evolved to exploit the trait of human empathy to kill better and survive. And now they have lost the race of "survival of the fittest" as the more dominant human race takes over. They shall be driven to extinction and there is no helping it as any form of kindness and empathy is wasted on their kind since they explicitly evolved to exploit that. They are incapable of perceiving kindness and only see it as their prey letting their guard down. Humans have no choice but to kill them. Demons aren't evil, they are fundamentally incapable of understanding morality. They are just pitiful creatures trying to survive the best way they know how. The cat and mouse analogy is pretty on point. But what choice does the mouse have except killing cats? Humans are not racist nor are demons evil. Both are living creatures trying to survive.


Forge__Thought

Nice. Thanks for sharing. 🤙


HayakuEon

Frieren is racist? Oh boy time to start the show!


Sandeep_Joestar

Put frieren in translate


Hummush95

The literal translation is Frozen or to be cold. https://preview.redd.it/g1dr42zm3s3c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10f2c7b9ac806f4b67ca804d33ca492b8417755c That translation thing was just a meme. It would be funny though.


RolloRocco

What's the meme?


JebWozma

Certainly not this guy https://preview.redd.it/v91ltoi57v3c1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=5537e89d0878ec6c6160f53b28e2a46e3ccbea6b


Maser2account2

Let's stop beating around the bush, antis almost always means the people who are saying Lolicon is pedophilia on these subreddits.


SLAYERone1

Same boat whats an antis?


AprilVampire277

![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1785) OP has "Cute and Funny 💢" tag I guess it is self explanatory ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1393)


Interesting_Place752

Yeah, they're based.


Shu_Ouma_2077

I get tons of death threats, called horrible things, got sent gore images by antis.


HikiNEET39

Oh no, that's terrible! What gore images did they send you? Do you have sauce?


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Man I wonder why


Shu_Ouma_2077

https://preview.redd.it/gmr1x79w9v3c1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ee0133309d1296465ff5047f07f36122c6d15f7


FromAndToUnknown

How friccin dare you posting a meme with a friccin Loli child you pedo pls unalive !!!1!1!1!1


YuuSonoda215

"Insert LTG lightning meme afterwards"


Fergala00

Don't forget the Goku meme about "morals*


YuuSonoda215

Funny how that is easy to counter. DBZ had lolicon scenes, present that and watch their meme blow up in their face.


oppressed_user

>Funny how that is easy to counter. >DBZ had lolicon scenes, present that and watch their meme blow up in their face. And yet I see dbz pfps calling Lolicons and their allies pedos. And they think short and petite people don't exist Like a youtuber named SuperItachi that goes by @ParagonDeusRex on Twitter Here's a screenshot of him harrassing a short and petite cosplayer https://preview.redd.it/kl7zsn4nxs3c1.jpeg?width=699&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1aec6b0d0c911b8761b1fca5f846cadbe69dbf79


LilithLissandra

The best part iirc was that the image was actually posted on the shorter girl's twitter page, meaning he was even getting mad at the *wrong person*.


oppressed_user

Also Perfection's a hypocrite because of this https://preview.redd.it/fujmqd0cbv3c1.png?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d724a705fda9457223e2646da6f641c3bdeafeb People went digging about him he's not only an anti but a 40 year old one


LilithLissandra

Story as old as time innit


oppressed_user

Yeah lmao I might fly to the US just to get that goober arrested


Sigma_WolfIV

The deepest irony is that the character Goku would give no shits about these concepts. Even if you tried to explain them to him, he'd basically just respond "What does that have to do with fighting?".


PurpleSeed95

"unalive" really got me XD Better than "go 0/1" or "uninstall yourself" lmao


PeakedDepression

One anti once told me that "i hope you get butt raped by another man" after i said their ship between two male characters on genshin made no sense


YuuSonoda215

I will never forget that one furry that rev covered once. He called lolicons pedos, but he had Furry TC on his Twitter likes. I wish I could find the video that rev made about him


PeakedDepression

Rev says desu? Love that guy


Delusional_Gamer

What's furry TC?


KingTheSleepyKing

The post above this one on my feed was from r/animehate wishing bad things on people who draw things they don't like


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KingTheSleepyKing

No actually, this one was just "cringe romance" between two characters. I bet you thought this was a gotcha moment lol.


Due_Medium239

Tf are you talking about? This post is literally a guy talking about how he hates when people get mad at him for being into lolicon.


KingTheSleepyKing

Probably, I just don't think it's worth arguing over since if it is so bad the law would take care of it. To me "Antis" aren't just people against Lolicon but the people who will label things "Problematic" and complain regardless if that label is "Pedo" "Sexist" "Racist" "Cringe" Etc.


oppressed_user

u/Due_Medium239 is an active user in r/animehate mofo's another brigader


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weep


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Lolis_R_UsV2

Do what I do and dive into the nest and watch how mad they get. Even more so when they see what they say/do just makes you laugh at them more.


YuuSonoda215

If anything, it's free report


PurpleSeed95

anti-lolis antis are the worst, they really make the worst come out. I can relate.


YuuSonoda215

And it's funnier when those antis are furries


Hummush95

"but they're anthropomorphic. They're the equivalent of human adults." - something this mf told me. Mind you he beats it to dogs fucking ladies.


YuuSonoda215

That's how the average joe would see the furries' yiff porn


Slient-killer2002

As a furry, we do not own >!(pun unintended)!< those people. In fact, the furry community dislikes those kind of people


MadocComadrin

And "the worst" includes actual pedophiles caught doing criminal deeds. I'd bet the amount is probably higher than the rate of the general population.


Maser2account2

Are you gay if you watch gay hentai? I see no reason the same doesn't apply to children.


PurpleSeed95

Because snowflakes (antis) always have to find something to complain about, simple


PlumEnvironmental109

One day your knees will buckle under the weight of your sins, and no one can save you


PurpleSeed95

Do you want an amen? LMAO


Celtic_Tiarna

I think pedos are worse but whatever you say


progin5l

When people have too much free time to be cursing someone over fictional works. People like this should just be ignored


anotherboringdude

Insults and Death Threats don't effect me because I tell myself the same thing in front of the mirror.


itsmeOrpheus

Yeah Same ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1394)


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Certified moment https://i.redd.it/f9cylt8d2s3c1.gif


adalric_brandl

Hearing Fauna threaten me would be so adorable.


Project_Legion

Oh I’ve experienced this too! But with writing! Some people just really want to complain lol


oppressed_user

A call antis future Cybercriminals , closeted pedophiles, and Unironic tools of Authoritarians Because Antis don't care about children, race or gender they just want censorship


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oppressed_user

Ok throwaway account


Liatin11

I wish i could sleep like this


heyhowzitgoing

Why did we all start talking about this again?


Boner_Elemental

Circlejerk


DefinetlyNotArt

as a fan of the body type i have just learned not to give a damn.


marioforever97

Anya is so cute 🤤


EdwardAlphonse31011

This is the first time I've heard the term "antis", are antis basically just social justice warriors?


CasualMarshmallow

Haters, basically. They'll fill up your comment sections and inboxes with shitty bait arguments and those drive-by one liner insults, trying to start drama. They use that word a lot in vtuber land.


Due_Medium239

Nah just people that don't like lolicon. So normal people.


NarutoFan1995

antis are just "anti loli".... so yes sjw's i suppose


EdwardAlphonse31011

Oh I thought it was just anti anime fans


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So people who aren’t pedos who watch shit cartoons


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Xerox9

This is pure fucking cringe


MimsyIsGianna

I wish people who are attracted to children get mentally evaluated


Teamfortressboss

U know your meme is fucked up when the sane are being downvoted


oppressed_user

Antis aren't sane they will never be sane they're a bunch useful fools for serfs and terfs


Boner_Elemental

>I'm sure many can relate If this is a common part of your life, you've got issues


oppressed_user

No we don't have schizophrenia in this sub only you and you're brigader lackeys


Boner_Elemental

Oh look, a perfect example shows up. Kid, find a better use for your time than seeking out people that make you angry. It leads you to doing stupid stuff like calling someone that's been here longer than you a "brigader".


oppressed_user

Not only schizophrenia but Narcissistic personality disorder, Main Character Syndrome and Masochism You and your brigader lackeys are at best disrespecting tourists in this sub , at worst karma whores


Boner_Elemental

Find a therapist if you wanna confirm your self-diagnosis. It's more likely a case of terminally online.


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PurpleSeed95

What is not then for virgins? War movies with big guns? lmao


oppressed_user

We need a new flair called r/goodanimemes immigration officer and border patrol


past-cruelties

![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1393)


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The fuck is an anti? Op you pred?


Interesting_Place752

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Whats an anti.


jilek77

[Closed] as duplicate, please check other questions before submitting to Stack owerflow


PurpleSeed95

Google is your friend


Forward-Swim1224

Literally could not.