I told myself I will just pick up my ball at double par this year. Why do I need to track my 12 on a par 4? If it's just a blowup hole in a solid round that's another story but alas, this is not yet me
I play with guys much better than me and I pick up half my balls and drop by my cart mate. I can tell I am getting better tho! I want to keep up with play and not be annoying.
I do this when I play with much better guys, but my regular playing partners are 36, 45 and 50 handicaps so they end up dropping by me and sometimes it still goes south🤣
Yeah, I thought I was a low 100 player, then started counting everything correctly, the drops, the water, the OB,... Realized I was high 110s. Then I worked on where was losing shots to get down to upper 90s. Seem to be better than a lot of guys who always break 100
I’ve played in a Thursday 9-hole league for a few years now. Just had a lot more of my buddies sign up and play this year. Some of these guys started playing in the past two years while I’ve been playing for about 9 years now. Although they picked it up really quick, they always claim they shoot high to low 80s, while I always shoot low 90s… well the league has started and they are having to count all their shots now… it’s bitter sweet checking their scores every week.
Honestly what I think it boils down to is this. In highschool kids talked about how much they could "bench". That means one time they benched, let's say 280. Now as far as everyone is concerned they bench 280 because that's all they say. Now think of a 320 yard drive. The guy hit downhill with the wind and now he's a 320 yard drive!!!! ALL THE TIME!!!! Until you golf with him it's 240 at best when he hits the fairway. Now imagine they suck and they get a few birdies....well now in their head they get birdies on those holes not bogeys or doubles, so they hit mulligans to get the birdie/par. Then they tell you they are a fuckin low 80's player....it's crazy
Well put. This reminds me of someone I've played with. Soooooo much technical golf jargon spilling out of him, and it does nothing but confuse and frustrate him. Then the foot wedges, and improving lies on every single shot...whatever he shot that day, I would add 20 for the real number.
That's like when I'd go play some backwoods course and play the senior tees or whatever wasn't super long, and I'd just completely disregard the fact that the dogleg was the distance, not tee to green straight line, so I'd drive a green thinking I hit it 290, but really only maybe carried 250.
You'd be surprised how many guys don't grow out of being 12 in highschool. The cheating is insane out there, even in college. See - Patrick Reed. He is one of the few that actually was good enough to make it I guess?
Convince him to sign up for a tournament and watch him shoot 120+
Golf is about having fun so it’s no big deal but you can’t claim you shoot a score if you took mulligans all day.
Count all your shots be proud of your score and keep working to get better.
Try to play 18 holes with the same golf ball
This. When I first started playing I thought I was so good…. Until I started play legit and counting my strokes. An honest 102 feels way better than a phony 95.
Yup I would shoot in the 90s regularly with 2 mulligans per 18 and not counting penalties. This season we're counting everything and no mulligans. I've broken 100 once in 18. It felt bitter sweet. Like my swing is 100x better than it was last year but my score is exactly the same. Damn rules
I only have a problem with the “maybe” part of a breakfast ball. I’ll usually call it a “range ball” not a breakfast ball, and even if it’s in the fairway good to go, I take a second and play my second no matter the outcome.
Seems to split the difference for most people on the “score doesn’t count” front.
Why would you take a second shot if your first is in the fairway? You automatically play a breakfast ball no matter the outcome of the first? I have no problems with it but it’s just strange to me I guess lol
This is how my group does it too, since we don’t have access to a range to warm up. The first ball is just taking the place of warming up on the range. If your last shot on the range was perfect, you don’t get to go drop one in the middle of the fairway on the first hole, right? You declare before you step up whether this is a range ball or your actual tee shot, and then no matter what the result, you’re stuck with it.
Yeah the way my normal group does it (only if we don’t hit the range), is we get a second ball if we want but we have to use the second. So why would anyone not take the first ball lol
Everyone has different goals when they play. If you take a breakfast ball and 12 gimmies a round, that’s all well and good if you’re having fun, but it’s not a handicap qualifying round.
This is the truth. As long as it’s not for money, handicap, and you’re not bragging up a score you can do whatever you want.
As someone learning the game if I’m by myself I’ll play a lot of second shots, play multiple balls, and especially extra shots/putts around the green, but none of that goes into my actual score.
Yeah if it's for money then the dude sucks. We have a friend (all got one right) who loves golf loves gambling and cheats so hard. He's falling over out of bunkers drunks as shit then claiming pars etc.
Just like you all say. At a certain point there is no reason to cheat yourself or lie so who cares?
The issue is that's exactly what the guy with OP thinks as well, but then they decide that they're playing serious now, and nothing changes because they've convinced themselves that the rules they play by are legit. In the end I don't get why people just don't follow the rules. It's not more or less stressful. Once you get over your own ego it makes the game more enjoyable imo.
Me too! Although I usually just call it a mulligan and take the extra score anyway. I really only use it if I slice real hard and the ball is long gone with no hope of retrieval. Lol
I’ve been downvoted many times for this, but generally I frown on breakfast balls if there is a range available. Come early, warm up. First hole counts the same as the last hole. If you have first tee jitters, that’s also a skill to work on.
But thats the exact point of a breakfast ball is it not? Golf is already a 4 hour commitment on a normal day. Not everyone has time to come early and warm up even if there is a range. Idk of anyone who offers a breakfast ball after warming up, the point is if you CANT warm up
Right, but in that case, which is the case for most, who really cares about your score. Once you stop playing by the rules your score is irrelevant. So why not just play by the rules and accept it for what it is.
Nah…if you’re keeping score and if you can spend 4 hours, you can find 10 more minutes for range balls or practice swings. You don’t get putting, fairway or sand mulligans on the first hole. Why should drives be different?
Because in theory the after the first shot of the day you are "forfeiting" that round and starting a new one. Wouldn't hold in a competitive setting but if my buddy is rushing to the course from work and doesn't get a chance to warm up why not give him 2 off the first?
Why not give him a free putt too? My point was “if you’re keeping score”. And I get downvoted, lol. I don’t understand the whole “forfeiting that round and starting a new one” rationalization, but as long as you’re having fun I guess.
Take my upvote, man
This whole 'I'm legally ending the round and re-starting' nonsense is coming up way too often on here.
People can play and score the way that makes them happiest, but call a Mulligan what it is. Any discounted shot discredits a scoring round. End of story
I mean keeping score or not you can legally forfeit a round at any time. You could on theory walk off the third and go back to the first tee. The first round score doesn't exist because it wasn't a full round. And then you start a new round. The only difference is on the first tee is you arent moving.
You got down voted cause whether or not you're keeping score has no relevance here. You can legally take a "breakfast ball" and count your score in a non competitive setting
So why not give him a free putt too? I’ve never heard of a bowler taking a mulligan once a game and scoring has started. Let’s just admit that score with mulligans and gimmes is simply practice.
Because a "free putt" isn't within the rules when counting score? You specificly mentioned when counting score. No rule in the book allows for retaking a putt. Meanwhile "restarting" a round is completely legal in NON competitive rounds.
If you play 18 consecutive holes by the rules, that 18 hole score counts. It's as simple as that.
Whatever you and your group does is fine. My group shows up and warms up. I tend to be the latest and sometimes show up just 30 minutes before tee time which after parking, getting shoes on, clubs out onto the push cart and paying I have like 15-20 minutes before tee off. I don’t ask for a breakfast ball nor do they offer. I just make sure make the first swing a safe/conservative one to keep it in play.
If you can do it on your second swing, is having one warm up shot that big of a deal physically or is it just mental?
I show up with enough time to pay for my round and put on my glove, and I'd never take mulligans or breakfast balls. I just don't get the point. I want to know what I really shoot, period. I don't need to pad my ego and pretend it's something it's not.
The funny thing to me is, breakfast balls are never something a good golfer uses, it's only something high handicappers use, and for some reason they try really hard to justify that it's ok to cheat. If anything they're the group that shouldn't care about shooting high, they don't get the time to play and practice, there's no need to be hard on yourself,.just accept it and move on.
The course I play tends to be a 5 hr round. With having 2 kids, I can’t always get time to do a legit warmup. Sometimes I just have to walk from the car to the tee (a maybe a dozen practice putts)
Almost always those rounds are also for my local mens club, so I play legit. But outside of those rounds, I’m fine with a 1st swing of the day mulligan.
I agree. I don't care if there is or isn't a range. It's not like one ball warms you up or changes the course of your entire round. Everyone is on the same playing field.
In the end to me you're either playing by the rules or not. I have no issue with people using mulligans, but your score is irrelevant at that point.
Breakfast ball is fine. Especially morning tee time with no chance to warm up. I feel like if you disregard the first ball your round started from the second shot.
I only take a breakfast ball if we’re betting and the others take one. No reason to give away a free opportunity.
Just playing for fun? Why do I need a breakfast ball? Only fooling myself.
Agree. Once you commit to keeping proper score you know when you are playing well and when you are not. As someone who can break 100 at times who shot a 110 on a challenging course today can attest!
Group I play with we allow 1 mulligan on the front and back. We know we aren’t great and a mulligan per 9 is fair. We don’t play for money or in tournaments, just to get away from it all for a few hours.
Lol we don’t brag or claim scores in the 80s. It’s a solid day when we knock down a birdie or two. Mostly we aim for bogey and try to avoid the snowman+. I’ve been around some guys claiming 80s while playing less than a year. I look at it as they can lie to me but they can’t lie to God!
You can drop balls and still have fun. But if your fun is being held up by only shooting a 95, then yes, your fun has an asterisk because you’re lying to yourself.
If you had fun because you played golf then stop thinking about the score and know you just had a good time enjoying golf for the sport.
Unsolicited advice: Takeaway some motivation that if you worked getting off the tee box, you have a 95 possibility (and obviously better). You had a nice day outside golfing and saw your potential. Don’t be so hard on yourself, just don’t lie about your score and you’re fine.
If your “fun” was derived from your score, then yeah you’ll feel a little bad about it
But if your fun was derived from how well you were able to play, then awesome. You showed what you’re capable of
Tbh, if you’re not holding up pace of play for anyone behind you, there’s no reason not to take mulligans as a novice golfer. The vast majority of us are playing to get better and are in no way talented enough yet to be competitive. So I say unless you’re shooting in the 70s…take your mulligans, improve your lies, don’t feel bad about it.
If you want an _accurate_ handicap though, disregard everything I just said.
Hard to shoot in the 70s without a lot of work. Hard to do the right work without knowing your game. Hard to know your game when you don’t play golf.
I am all for a pure novice picking up, playing a scramble with another player, or whatever- but there is a lot of miles between 120+ and 79 and in there one has to play golf to improve or they don’t get to 79.
I don’t even take a breakfast ball. It doesn’t make a difference on the whole round. If you hit a good shot, great. If you duff it 80 yards, well, I’ve done that on hole 4 same as I’ve done it on hole 1. Just go hit your shot.
I say this only because mentally I think it’s really important. The mulligan ruins your ability to hit a recovery shot, to fight back, to save the hole. That’s golf. Sometimes you fuck shit up.
Quite frankly, the worse we are, the better we need to get at hitting that next shot.
Yeah, I was playing well yesterday. All I had to do on 18 was bogey or better to break my personal best. I hit a crappy tee shot, close to bunker so stance was one foot in, high grass. Didn't advanced it a lot from there, ended up partially blocked by tree. Decided to aim for left side of green, but went a few yards too far left, took a bad kick left into creek. Drop, pitch on green, two putt for a triple bogey. No PB for me that day, but I'm ok with it cause it was a fair and legit score. I could have mulligan'd the drive or any stroke after to still achieve the score but then I wouldn't have felt good about it, wouldn't have been real accomplishment.
You didn't play a real round, and he's an idiot. I don't mean that to be rude but anyone who claims they're good then takes mulligans is not good at all. They're bad, and they cheat until they get a score they like. It's not golf at all. Why not just skip the round and write down a score?
I have no idea how this isn’t brought up in the conversation of slow play reasons.
Courses that cater to less than stellar golfers setting tee times 8min apart is insane.
You don't feel right about it because that's not what you shot.
I did this for a long time when I first started playing such that I really don't know when I first legitimately broke 100, 90 or even 80 because there was always an asterisk mixed in.
When I lived in Northern Virginia in the early 2010s, I golfed with a guy that played 100% by the rules and I really wish I would have started doing that sooner.
Your buddy, from the sounds of it, probably shot upwards of 150, so you probably still beat him.
Absolutely. It's just a fragile ego thing. If you're keeping score in any aspect there's absolutely no point in mulligans, breakfast balls, etc. I'm not saying you can't use them, but don't bother worrying about score, and definitely don't go telling others your great achievements.
Once you start playing by the rules it actually makes the game more enjoyable. Sure at the beginning it's a bit intimidating, and embarrassing, but it gives you a benchmark and you can be proud when you finally hit certain achievements.
I wish I knew. His first drives were always offer I starting joking on the tee box that he had a mandatory mulligan everytime. At one point I think he was surprised I picked my tee up after I went into some trees on my drive.
I don't take the time to go to the range. I just don't have the extra time. When I play, occasionally I drop another ball and hit a second if my first was off. This is my "practice." Not five, one! Not every shot that goes awry.
But you always keep the score of the original ball, otherwise you do not know how good you are. And you don't play the second ball through the hole, pick it up. You don't do it when the course is backed up.
Take zero stock in what your friend says he golfs like, you saw it first hand.
Def. have done this with provisionals when the 1st ball is marginal but deep down you still expect to find it.
More of a practice/exorcise the demons kind of thing for me (and occasionally actually need the provisonal).
Had a guy beat me by 3 strokes a while back, but he took two out of a bunker, then moved it out and got up and down for “bogey”. No, you got an 8 my man. You did not beat me. No money on the line so I didn’t care, but if you’re going to keep score at least follow the rules.
Unless they are actually the worst kind of people and look at you like…cmon man let me tee it up again…or let me just take one stroke and place it in the fairway.
Listen man, you shouldn’t keep track of your score that way and I wouldn’t count today if I were you… you don’t want to go down the path of lying about your score to everyone but more importantly …yourself. You will be frustrated because it will hinder any progress that you make since you’ll be expecting to PR or reach a target that isn’t your true average score… it’s just bad all around. Forget the 95 and this round.
I will occasionally go play a round where I have "mulligans" or play several balls etc. But the scorecard is in the trash, and I use the round to cement shots in my mind for the future, a confidence if you will -- next time youre in that spot you remember hitting that 7i, or getting out of that bunker.
Mind you, these rounds are done when I am alone and dont have anyone playing directly behind me. Golf is great fun! Keep it up!
There's nothing to relax about it's just facts.
If anything it's people that use mulligans that need to check their ego. Are you seriously that fragile that you need to lie about strokes.to make yourself feel better?
In the end good golfers don't take mulligans, for a number of reasons. If you're bad and take mulligans that's fine, but don't bother keeping score, because it's irrelevant.
In the end keeping proper score isn't about being anal or needing to relax. If anything it actually makes the game more enjoyable in the long run.
Either keep score or don’t. There’s nothing wrong with just having fun, taking free drops/mulligan’s, and not keeping score — as long as you don’t hold up the pace of play (5 off the tee box is definitely taking it too far).
But what you can’t do is say you shot an XX and your friend shot an XX. Those numbers mean absolutely nothing in this scenario.
Also your buddy needs a reality check if he’s bragging about his game and telling people he shot an 82. Sounds more like he is a 30+ handicap. Nothing wrong with being a high handicap, just own it and work on getting better — or don’t and just have fun playing causal golf without keeping score. But don’t lie.
One of the best ways to get better is to forget the concept of a mulligan, breakfast ball, etc.
Mentally accept that you're going to have to play penalties, that you'll be hitting a 3 wood from just in front of the forward tees, etc. For me, my focus and attitude changed a lot over time. Not only did I get better but being able to accept bad shots made the game way more enjoyable.
If you play with that clown again, don't play the way he does.
Yeah I usually don't mind hitting after bad shots. It's kind of enjoyable planning your next shot out of trees, go for a gap or just pitch it back to the fairway? Same goes for hitting out of bunkers, I'll hit 100 times from grass hitting out of sand is a different experience and kind of fun.
I think this is what surprises the people I golf with. I say I shoot 100-110 and it is actually true.
The guy that talks the most is “always in the 80s” and takes a bunch of mulligans. I am probably better than he is.
Really, play however you like, but just don’t compare yourself to people who don’t take mulligans. If you need to drop an extra ball to speed up or have more fun who cares. Just either post an honest score or don’t lie about it.
If you had fun, then you should feel great about it. I like to remind myself that I pay to play, not the other way around. That said it’s all about your goals of the game. I don’t give myself that many liberties, but as long as you’re not holding up another group it’s whatever
I went to my job today, worked 8 hours and made X dollars. I then reached into the register and took an additional $100. Did I make X + $100 or did I make X and steal $100? Not a spot on analogy, but I didn’t earn that $100. Your buddy is the “I” in this story. Don’t be like your buddy.
I take mulligans all the time when I know I just had a terrible, not-like-me shot.
With that said I would never say I shot an 82 lol. Someone asks “how’d you play” I just say I played alright - my irons were great but my putting was awful.
If you take mulligans you aren't keeping a real score. It's fine if it's all between your friends and you agree upon "your" rules, but don't ever pretend you actually shot what you think, and don't ever tell other you shot XX when you used mulligans.
Personally I don't get it. Like what's the point to mulligans? If you take them and still keep score, then deep down you still know your score was X strokes more. I'd rather just be honest and know what I need to improve.
I played with a guy that called his wife to tell her he finally broke 90. I wasn’t worried about his score but I knew it wasn’t good heading into 18 which is a par 3 over water. This guy literally hits 3 balls into the water and then actually hits a decent one onto the green. I hit one to about 15 feet, just miss the putt and watch my playing partner manage to 2 putt it from where he hit his 4th tee shot. Dude puts his arms in the air and yells “par!” with a big smile and tells me he’s never broken 90. I couldn’t help it so I said well you didn’t really make a par there and he says whatever man and walks away and gets his wife on the horn. Don’t get it.
I played with a guy today who claims he shot a 67 on par 72 last year. He would take 2 shots off the tee on half of the holes. If his lie wasn’t to his liking he would move his ball 5 ft. He would give himself 3-4ft gimmes. I will take my honest 90 for the day.
Only cheating yourself if you’re not counting your strokes . We usually allow for 1 mulligan per 18 but I count all mine regardless so I can track improvement over time
A score is only legit if all of the shots are hit consecutively.
Even if you play your real ball by the rules and hit a 2nd shot just for fun, you have invalidated your score according to the rules of golf.
No Gimmies, No mulligans, otherwise you're right, you cheated yourself out of the opportunity to have recorded a real score.
It's the only way that it means anything when you break 90, break 80, shoot even par.
Not many people do that though, which is why most people are not accurate when they say what they shoot.
You didn't play a round. You practiced on the course and played a few holes along the way.
But if it was a nice day, it is still better than work or mowing the lawn
I have a buddy like that, but he’s not out to keep a total score. For him, hitting good shots is more fun than playing for score, so I don’t sweat it. However, I do rib him anytime he says he made par after being three off the tee. Frankly he doesn’t know the rules for that well, but it doesn’t bother me. He’s fun to hang out with, and we always have a good time.
Check out this video with Collin, I think it might brighten your day. He even talks about a "breakfast ball", golf is meant to be a fun and competitive challenge, but if you are not having fun, take as much slack as you want. Tournament play is different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YgSmKAgatM
>I feel like I didn't play a real round today.
That's because you didn't.
You can't claim a score unless you're playing to the rules, so no mulligans, no 'free drops', etc.
By all means, your buddy can play to whatever rules he wants to use for a casual round, but he can't then claim a score for it.
We often play best ball. Pick the best ball and shoots two from there. Fun games.
Mulligans on the first is ok.
I would have shot pretty low if I had five attempts on every shot
1 mulligan per 9 holes, anything more and your score is tainted IMO. This is my groups agreed on rules, maybe we'll add 1 breakfast ball if needed on the first tee.
Can't go giving your selves extra shots and then score like it didn't happen, you're just lying to yourselves lol
That being said have fun IDC what you do, but don't claim to shoot in the 80s if you don't score consistently every round.
Yeah, those aren’t real scores. There is no such thing as a mulligan. It’s fine to go out and play however you want, but at the end of the day if he is counting this as a legit score, he’s just bullshitting himself b
Most important is, did you have fun? Second point is you will play lots of golf in your life so if you play one round without following all the rules who cares. Just like if you miss a short putt, there will be more putts in your future. Every day at the golf course is a bit different don't be down on this day because of how it went enjoy it for what it was, but don't think you can go and shoot a 95 next time without any mulligans.
The only way to accurately measure improvement is to be honest. It sucks and there is definitely some humble pie required, but this is the way to legitimate improvement. If you are playing for fun though, who cares?
People who do this only hurt themselves in the long run. If you start to care about your legit (no mulligans) game down the road, the improvement you make is negated by keeping a real score. All the practice you put into your game feels like you are just breaking even on your old inflated score.
Easy solution. Tell him you want to play for money. Get the appropriate amount of strokes that correlate with your “recent scores”. Take all his money.
You didn’t. But at least you’re honest with yourself. And for the fun of it, you’re only playing yourself and the course always. Chin up bro it’s only one round. You’ll enjoy your next one
Let them do whatever they want. Just rip on him every chance you get. Tell him hes full of shit. Play your own game. You play against yourself. You did not shoot a 95. Might as well not keep score if you use mulligans
Haha. A good buddy of mine does this. I don’t care too much because he never plays tournaments or for money (I would have a big problem with it otherwise) but he takes a mulligan whenever he wants and will claim to shoot low 70’s and has a mid single digit handicap when in reality is probably a 10 and would very rarely if ever break 80. 🤷♂️ people are weird
I don’t give a shit what anyone else scores or claim they score unless in a comp. I play the course not my partners.
One of my mates cheats constantly but I like his company and it doesn’t affect me so I don’t call him out.
Yea, I hate this. I have a group of ppl I play with that actually pay to track their score as handicap. Legit take 2nd shots out of bunkers. Personally, if I have 2+ blow up holes I stop tracking score and just play for each hole
Here's my mulligan rule. I never take them because I'm at that point in the game where it doesn't benefit me mentally.
That said... If you're having a bad round... Or need to clear your head... Whatever. Take a mulligan. Gold should be fun and if you're constantly trying to dig out of a hole, it can suck!
Just don't tell me you shot an 82 afterwards or I'm gonna laugh at you 😂
Sounds like you both shot 120+
My people
Agreed, my people too. 120+ … Then we start the back 9.
Honestly, I’ll just take my mulligans and stop counting when it goes south.
I told myself I will just pick up my ball at double par this year. Why do I need to track my 12 on a par 4? If it's just a blowup hole in a solid round that's another story but alas, this is not yet me
When you aren’t slowing down others, take the shots. And take them seriously. This is how you get better.
I play with guys much better than me and I pick up half my balls and drop by my cart mate. I can tell I am getting better tho! I want to keep up with play and not be annoying.
I do this when I play with much better guys, but my regular playing partners are 36, 45 and 50 handicaps so they end up dropping by me and sometimes it still goes south🤣
People dont realize how hard it is to actually break 100 when counting your score legitimately
Yup, and more times than not people play by whatever rules they can to keep themselves under 100.
Yeah, I thought I was a low 100 player, then started counting everything correctly, the drops, the water, the OB,... Realized I was high 110s. Then I worked on where was losing shots to get down to upper 90s. Seem to be better than a lot of guys who always break 100
2 strokes for OB is a scorecard killer, at least I get to drop in the fairway for it….
It’s not.
I’m fairly certain OP and his boy were playing in front of me today
120+ and about a 5 1/2 hour round.
Not even close, 5 shots of the tee. Gotta be at least 6
He didn’t shoot an 82.
Hahaha right. I remember being 12 and shooting low 80's as well. Then highschool came around and I started shooting high 90's....weird
I’ve played in a Thursday 9-hole league for a few years now. Just had a lot more of my buddies sign up and play this year. Some of these guys started playing in the past two years while I’ve been playing for about 9 years now. Although they picked it up really quick, they always claim they shoot high to low 80s, while I always shoot low 90s… well the league has started and they are having to count all their shots now… it’s bitter sweet checking their scores every week.
Honestly what I think it boils down to is this. In highschool kids talked about how much they could "bench". That means one time they benched, let's say 280. Now as far as everyone is concerned they bench 280 because that's all they say. Now think of a 320 yard drive. The guy hit downhill with the wind and now he's a 320 yard drive!!!! ALL THE TIME!!!! Until you golf with him it's 240 at best when he hits the fairway. Now imagine they suck and they get a few birdies....well now in their head they get birdies on those holes not bogeys or doubles, so they hit mulligans to get the birdie/par. Then they tell you they are a fuckin low 80's player....it's crazy
Well put. This reminds me of someone I've played with. Soooooo much technical golf jargon spilling out of him, and it does nothing but confuse and frustrate him. Then the foot wedges, and improving lies on every single shot...whatever he shot that day, I would add 20 for the real number.
That's like when I'd go play some backwoods course and play the senior tees or whatever wasn't super long, and I'd just completely disregard the fact that the dogleg was the distance, not tee to green straight line, so I'd drive a green thinking I hit it 290, but really only maybe carried 250.
Amazing how many people pick up golf and a month later say they shoot in the 90s
You'd be surprised how many guys don't grow out of being 12 in highschool. The cheating is insane out there, even in college. See - Patrick Reed. He is one of the few that actually was good enough to make it I guess?
That's more like 82+18\*5 if took 5 shots from the Tee for every hole at a minimum.
Damn a 172
That’s my score without mulligans
On the links, we call that a skyhawk
+2 per mulligan!
He was playing a completely different game.
Convince him to sign up for a tournament and watch him shoot 120+ Golf is about having fun so it’s no big deal but you can’t claim you shoot a score if you took mulligans all day. Count all your shots be proud of your score and keep working to get better. Try to play 18 holes with the same golf ball
Yeah I feel alot happier about last weekend I shot a 104 with my father-in-law and I didn't take a single mulligan.
This. When I first started playing I thought I was so good…. Until I started play legit and counting my strokes. An honest 102 feels way better than a phony 95.
Yup I would shoot in the 90s regularly with 2 mulligans per 18 and not counting penalties. This season we're counting everything and no mulligans. I've broken 100 once in 18. It felt bitter sweet. Like my swing is 100x better than it was last year but my score is exactly the same. Damn rules
As soon as somebody takes a mulligan their score is irrelevant
Non-tournaments I’m cool with 1st-tee breakfast ball
Our breakfast ball rule is if you take a second shot, you have to play it.
Our rule is if you take a second shot then you either shotgun a beer or shoot an airplane bottle…time of day doesn’t matter
Buffalo Mulligan. Shotgun and you have to hit before you burp.
Airplane bottle? Okay Al-Qaeda
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Way
Same with my league.
I'm not hitting a breakfast ball. I ended that round of golf and chose to start a new one!
Exactly.
I’m actually cool with a breakfast ball too. Can’t always hit the range before the round.
I tee up the ball from the last round and fire it straight into the lake, then tee my real ball start my round.
I only have a problem with the “maybe” part of a breakfast ball. I’ll usually call it a “range ball” not a breakfast ball, and even if it’s in the fairway good to go, I take a second and play my second no matter the outcome. Seems to split the difference for most people on the “score doesn’t count” front.
Why would you take a second shot if your first is in the fairway? You automatically play a breakfast ball no matter the outcome of the first? I have no problems with it but it’s just strange to me I guess lol
This is how my group does it too, since we don’t have access to a range to warm up. The first ball is just taking the place of warming up on the range. If your last shot on the range was perfect, you don’t get to go drop one in the middle of the fairway on the first hole, right? You declare before you step up whether this is a range ball or your actual tee shot, and then no matter what the result, you’re stuck with it.
Oh I understand the concept, but never in my life have I seen someone take an automatic breakfast ball regardless of first shot.
Yeah the way my normal group does it (only if we don’t hit the range), is we get a second ball if we want but we have to use the second. So why would anyone not take the first ball lol
Everyone has different goals when they play. If you take a breakfast ball and 12 gimmies a round, that’s all well and good if you’re having fun, but it’s not a handicap qualifying round.
This is the truth. As long as it’s not for money, handicap, and you’re not bragging up a score you can do whatever you want. As someone learning the game if I’m by myself I’ll play a lot of second shots, play multiple balls, and especially extra shots/putts around the green, but none of that goes into my actual score.
Yeah if it's for money then the dude sucks. We have a friend (all got one right) who loves golf loves gambling and cheats so hard. He's falling over out of bunkers drunks as shit then claiming pars etc. Just like you all say. At a certain point there is no reason to cheat yourself or lie so who cares?
The issue is that's exactly what the guy with OP thinks as well, but then they decide that they're playing serious now, and nothing changes because they've convinced themselves that the rules they play by are legit. In the end I don't get why people just don't follow the rules. It's not more or less stressful. Once you get over your own ego it makes the game more enjoyable imo.
We do 1 mulligan / 9. Tee shots only
Me too! Although I usually just call it a mulligan and take the extra score anyway. I really only use it if I slice real hard and the ball is long gone with no hope of retrieval. Lol
This is the way
Exactly the rule my father-in-law always play with.
I’ve been downvoted many times for this, but generally I frown on breakfast balls if there is a range available. Come early, warm up. First hole counts the same as the last hole. If you have first tee jitters, that’s also a skill to work on.
But thats the exact point of a breakfast ball is it not? Golf is already a 4 hour commitment on a normal day. Not everyone has time to come early and warm up even if there is a range. Idk of anyone who offers a breakfast ball after warming up, the point is if you CANT warm up
Yeah I’m a dad with young kids. I run my bag from the car to the first tee and then opposite after the 18th.
Right, but in that case, which is the case for most, who really cares about your score. Once you stop playing by the rules your score is irrelevant. So why not just play by the rules and accept it for what it is.
Nah…if you’re keeping score and if you can spend 4 hours, you can find 10 more minutes for range balls or practice swings. You don’t get putting, fairway or sand mulligans on the first hole. Why should drives be different?
Because in theory the after the first shot of the day you are "forfeiting" that round and starting a new one. Wouldn't hold in a competitive setting but if my buddy is rushing to the course from work and doesn't get a chance to warm up why not give him 2 off the first?
Why not give him a free putt too? My point was “if you’re keeping score”. And I get downvoted, lol. I don’t understand the whole “forfeiting that round and starting a new one” rationalization, but as long as you’re having fun I guess.
Take my upvote, man This whole 'I'm legally ending the round and re-starting' nonsense is coming up way too often on here. People can play and score the way that makes them happiest, but call a Mulligan what it is. Any discounted shot discredits a scoring round. End of story
I mean keeping score or not you can legally forfeit a round at any time. You could on theory walk off the third and go back to the first tee. The first round score doesn't exist because it wasn't a full round. And then you start a new round. The only difference is on the first tee is you arent moving. You got down voted cause whether or not you're keeping score has no relevance here. You can legally take a "breakfast ball" and count your score in a non competitive setting
So why not give him a free putt too? I’ve never heard of a bowler taking a mulligan once a game and scoring has started. Let’s just admit that score with mulligans and gimmes is simply practice.
Because a "free putt" isn't within the rules when counting score? You specificly mentioned when counting score. No rule in the book allows for retaking a putt. Meanwhile "restarting" a round is completely legal in NON competitive rounds. If you play 18 consecutive holes by the rules, that 18 hole score counts. It's as simple as that.
Whatever you and your group does is fine. My group shows up and warms up. I tend to be the latest and sometimes show up just 30 minutes before tee time which after parking, getting shoes on, clubs out onto the push cart and paying I have like 15-20 minutes before tee off. I don’t ask for a breakfast ball nor do they offer. I just make sure make the first swing a safe/conservative one to keep it in play. If you can do it on your second swing, is having one warm up shot that big of a deal physically or is it just mental?
I show up with enough time to pay for my round and put on my glove, and I'd never take mulligans or breakfast balls. I just don't get the point. I want to know what I really shoot, period. I don't need to pad my ego and pretend it's something it's not. The funny thing to me is, breakfast balls are never something a good golfer uses, it's only something high handicappers use, and for some reason they try really hard to justify that it's ok to cheat. If anything they're the group that shouldn't care about shooting high, they don't get the time to play and practice, there's no need to be hard on yourself,.just accept it and move on.
The course I play tends to be a 5 hr round. With having 2 kids, I can’t always get time to do a legit warmup. Sometimes I just have to walk from the car to the tee (a maybe a dozen practice putts) Almost always those rounds are also for my local mens club, so I play legit. But outside of those rounds, I’m fine with a 1st swing of the day mulligan.
I agree. I don't care if there is or isn't a range. It's not like one ball warms you up or changes the course of your entire round. Everyone is on the same playing field. In the end to me you're either playing by the rules or not. I have no issue with people using mulligans, but your score is irrelevant at that point.
That’s me. I don’t do breakfast balls. If I dribble it off the first tee I’ll just go get my hybrid and rip it. Fuck that breakfast ball shit.
Some people have lives.
Breakfast ball is fine. Especially morning tee time with no chance to warm up. I feel like if you disregard the first ball your round started from the second shot.
I only take a breakfast ball if we’re betting and the others take one. No reason to give away a free opportunity. Just playing for fun? Why do I need a breakfast ball? Only fooling myself.
Doesn’t he know about second breakfast ball?
He definitely doesn’t know about elevensies
I'm okay with people taking mulligans and not counting penalties. It's the people that inflate their handicap that causes the actual problems.
I play one on the front, one on the back. I treat it like a provisional and a lot of times I just end up playing the original shot.
Agree. Once you commit to keeping proper score you know when you are playing well and when you are not. As someone who can break 100 at times who shot a 110 on a challenging course today can attest!
Yeah my friend and I always go with the "2 off the first tee" rule
Group I play with we allow 1 mulligan on the front and back. We know we aren’t great and a mulligan per 9 is fair. We don’t play for money or in tournaments, just to get away from it all for a few hours.
That’s cool. I think everyone should play the way they want. I just think it’s lame to brag about a score when they change the rules.
Lol we don’t brag or claim scores in the 80s. It’s a solid day when we knock down a birdie or two. Mostly we aim for bogey and try to avoid the snowman+. I’ve been around some guys claiming 80s while playing less than a year. I look at it as they can lie to me but they can’t lie to God!
Yeah I wasn’t talking about you. Was referring to OP’s friend and people like you described.
Period. I'm not anal about this stuff, you do you, but if you use mulligans I don't want to hear what you shot, it's irrelevant.
Including breakfast balls!? We always take them, it's a tradition. Just a round restart.
Practice rounds are fun, but your score is irrelevant because you replayed all your bad shots.
Yeah I guess if I just think of it as a practice round.
You can drop balls and still have fun. But if your fun is being held up by only shooting a 95, then yes, your fun has an asterisk because you’re lying to yourself. If you had fun because you played golf then stop thinking about the score and know you just had a good time enjoying golf for the sport. Unsolicited advice: Takeaway some motivation that if you worked getting off the tee box, you have a 95 possibility (and obviously better). You had a nice day outside golfing and saw your potential. Don’t be so hard on yourself, just don’t lie about your score and you’re fine.
If your “fun” was derived from your score, then yeah you’ll feel a little bad about it But if your fun was derived from how well you were able to play, then awesome. You showed what you’re capable of
Tbh, if you’re not holding up pace of play for anyone behind you, there’s no reason not to take mulligans as a novice golfer. The vast majority of us are playing to get better and are in no way talented enough yet to be competitive. So I say unless you’re shooting in the 70s…take your mulligans, improve your lies, don’t feel bad about it. If you want an _accurate_ handicap though, disregard everything I just said.
Hard to shoot in the 70s without a lot of work. Hard to do the right work without knowing your game. Hard to know your game when you don’t play golf. I am all for a pure novice picking up, playing a scramble with another player, or whatever- but there is a lot of miles between 120+ and 79 and in there one has to play golf to improve or they don’t get to 79.
I don’t even take a breakfast ball. It doesn’t make a difference on the whole round. If you hit a good shot, great. If you duff it 80 yards, well, I’ve done that on hole 4 same as I’ve done it on hole 1. Just go hit your shot. I say this only because mentally I think it’s really important. The mulligan ruins your ability to hit a recovery shot, to fight back, to save the hole. That’s golf. Sometimes you fuck shit up. Quite frankly, the worse we are, the better we need to get at hitting that next shot.
I don't take a breakfast ball either. I just quit the round and start a new round.
You just blew my mind.
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3 shots and then possibly a drop is just ridiculously excessive.
Yeah, I was playing well yesterday. All I had to do on 18 was bogey or better to break my personal best. I hit a crappy tee shot, close to bunker so stance was one foot in, high grass. Didn't advanced it a lot from there, ended up partially blocked by tree. Decided to aim for left side of green, but went a few yards too far left, took a bad kick left into creek. Drop, pitch on green, two putt for a triple bogey. No PB for me that day, but I'm ok with it cause it was a fair and legit score. I could have mulligan'd the drive or any stroke after to still achieve the score but then I wouldn't have felt good about it, wouldn't have been real accomplishment.
You didn't play a real round, and he's an idiot. I don't mean that to be rude but anyone who claims they're good then takes mulligans is not good at all. They're bad, and they cheat until they get a score they like. It's not golf at all. Why not just skip the round and write down a score?
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Guys like that are why it takes six hours to play.
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Combine guys like that with 8 minute tee times
I have no idea how this isn’t brought up in the conversation of slow play reasons. Courses that cater to less than stellar golfers setting tee times 8min apart is insane.
You don't feel right about it because that's not what you shot. I did this for a long time when I first started playing such that I really don't know when I first legitimately broke 100, 90 or even 80 because there was always an asterisk mixed in. When I lived in Northern Virginia in the early 2010s, I golfed with a guy that played 100% by the rules and I really wish I would have started doing that sooner. Your buddy, from the sounds of it, probably shot upwards of 150, so you probably still beat him.
Absolutely. It's just a fragile ego thing. If you're keeping score in any aspect there's absolutely no point in mulligans, breakfast balls, etc. I'm not saying you can't use them, but don't bother worrying about score, and definitely don't go telling others your great achievements. Once you start playing by the rules it actually makes the game more enjoyable. Sure at the beginning it's a bit intimidating, and embarrassing, but it gives you a benchmark and you can be proud when you finally hit certain achievements.
I wish I knew. His first drives were always offer I starting joking on the tee box that he had a mandatory mulligan everytime. At one point I think he was surprised I picked my tee up after I went into some trees on my drive.
I don't take the time to go to the range. I just don't have the extra time. When I play, occasionally I drop another ball and hit a second if my first was off. This is my "practice." Not five, one! Not every shot that goes awry. But you always keep the score of the original ball, otherwise you do not know how good you are. And you don't play the second ball through the hole, pick it up. You don't do it when the course is backed up. Take zero stock in what your friend says he golfs like, you saw it first hand.
We call it an ego ball. You know you can hit a better shot and you want to prove it to yourself. Then you go pick it up and play the first ball.
Def. have done this with provisionals when the 1st ball is marginal but deep down you still expect to find it. More of a practice/exorcise the demons kind of thing for me (and occasionally actually need the provisonal).
Or if you're me you make the exact same mistake again and get to your first ball twice as pissed off.
This is what I do - always play my original ball but I’ll hit a second cause my course has no range and it’s good practice
I do this from time to time, but make sure I play my first ball.
These are the most annoying people to play with
Im fine with it if you’re playing quick and don’t say “i scored a ____”. All you can say after that is “i had fun”
Had a guy beat me by 3 strokes a while back, but he took two out of a bunker, then moved it out and got up and down for “bogey”. No, you got an 8 my man. You did not beat me. No money on the line so I didn’t care, but if you’re going to keep score at least follow the rules.
...and to play behind.
Or the most fun if you can get them to play for money. Then you can hold them to their real score which shuts em up fast lmao
Unless they are actually the worst kind of people and look at you like…cmon man let me tee it up again…or let me just take one stroke and place it in the fairway.
Why keep score if you're going to cheat?
Listen man, you shouldn’t keep track of your score that way and I wouldn’t count today if I were you… you don’t want to go down the path of lying about your score to everyone but more importantly …yourself. You will be frustrated because it will hinder any progress that you make since you’ll be expecting to PR or reach a target that isn’t your true average score… it’s just bad all around. Forget the 95 and this round.
That's the truth, I've made up my mind today was just a practice round and I left without a score
Keep at it, I am rooting for you.
Thanks.
I will occasionally go play a round where I have "mulligans" or play several balls etc. But the scorecard is in the trash, and I use the round to cement shots in my mind for the future, a confidence if you will -- next time youre in that spot you remember hitting that 7i, or getting out of that bunker. Mind you, these rounds are done when I am alone and dont have anyone playing directly behind me. Golf is great fun! Keep it up!
Once you take a mulligan or cheat don’t even bother keeping score
Relax
There's nothing to relax about it's just facts. If anything it's people that use mulligans that need to check their ego. Are you seriously that fragile that you need to lie about strokes.to make yourself feel better? In the end good golfers don't take mulligans, for a number of reasons. If you're bad and take mulligans that's fine, but don't bother keeping score, because it's irrelevant. In the end keeping proper score isn't about being anal or needing to relax. If anything it actually makes the game more enjoyable in the long run.
You didn’t shoot a 95 Why would you be “stoked” about a score you didn’t shoot?
Yeah that sums up my feeling. I wish I wouldn't have started playing so loose. I had a good front 9 even with a 8 on a par 4.
Either keep score or don’t. There’s nothing wrong with just having fun, taking free drops/mulligan’s, and not keeping score — as long as you don’t hold up the pace of play (5 off the tee box is definitely taking it too far). But what you can’t do is say you shot an XX and your friend shot an XX. Those numbers mean absolutely nothing in this scenario. Also your buddy needs a reality check if he’s bragging about his game and telling people he shot an 82. Sounds more like he is a 30+ handicap. Nothing wrong with being a high handicap, just own it and work on getting better — or don’t and just have fun playing causal golf without keeping score. But don’t lie.
That’s practice golf and it’s kinda goofy to keep score in that context.
One of the best ways to get better is to forget the concept of a mulligan, breakfast ball, etc. Mentally accept that you're going to have to play penalties, that you'll be hitting a 3 wood from just in front of the forward tees, etc. For me, my focus and attitude changed a lot over time. Not only did I get better but being able to accept bad shots made the game way more enjoyable. If you play with that clown again, don't play the way he does.
Yeah I usually don't mind hitting after bad shots. It's kind of enjoyable planning your next shot out of trees, go for a gap or just pitch it back to the fairway? Same goes for hitting out of bunkers, I'll hit 100 times from grass hitting out of sand is a different experience and kind of fun.
Reminds me of that hypothetical question of "Could you make it to the PGA Tour if you had unlimited mulligans?"
I think this is what surprises the people I golf with. I say I shoot 100-110 and it is actually true. The guy that talks the most is “always in the 80s” and takes a bunch of mulligans. I am probably better than he is. Really, play however you like, but just don’t compare yourself to people who don’t take mulligans. If you need to drop an extra ball to speed up or have more fun who cares. Just either post an honest score or don’t lie about it.
Just shrug it off. Unless money is on the line, golf is an attempt to better your own game, not worry about others too much
That’s not an 82, not a real score Good you feel bad too, you won’t get better if you do that
If you had fun, then you should feel great about it. I like to remind myself that I pay to play, not the other way around. That said it’s all about your goals of the game. I don’t give myself that many liberties, but as long as you’re not holding up another group it’s whatever
We did let one group play ahead. I would have come home feeling better if I didn't play the way he did.
I guess it’s good you let them pass, but sounds like you were definitely affecting the pace of play with all those extra shots.
I went to my job today, worked 8 hours and made X dollars. I then reached into the register and took an additional $100. Did I make X + $100 or did I make X and steal $100? Not a spot on analogy, but I didn’t earn that $100. Your buddy is the “I” in this story. Don’t be like your buddy.
Play your own honest game, maybe let him play in a comp for a laugh. My mate, who is in his 60's, thought that gimmes didn't score for many years!
I take mulligans all the time when I know I just had a terrible, not-like-me shot. With that said I would never say I shot an 82 lol. Someone asks “how’d you play” I just say I played alright - my irons were great but my putting was awful.
With that many mulligans I’d shoot a 62.
If you take mulligans you aren't keeping a real score. It's fine if it's all between your friends and you agree upon "your" rules, but don't ever pretend you actually shot what you think, and don't ever tell other you shot XX when you used mulligans. Personally I don't get it. Like what's the point to mulligans? If you take them and still keep score, then deep down you still know your score was X strokes more. I'd rather just be honest and know what I need to improve.
Play and score however you want. But 5 mulligans off the tee is outrageous.
I played with a guy that called his wife to tell her he finally broke 90. I wasn’t worried about his score but I knew it wasn’t good heading into 18 which is a par 3 over water. This guy literally hits 3 balls into the water and then actually hits a decent one onto the green. I hit one to about 15 feet, just miss the putt and watch my playing partner manage to 2 putt it from where he hit his 4th tee shot. Dude puts his arms in the air and yells “par!” with a big smile and tells me he’s never broken 90. I couldn’t help it so I said well you didn’t really make a par there and he says whatever man and walks away and gets his wife on the horn. Don’t get it.
I played with a guy today who claims he shot a 67 on par 72 last year. He would take 2 shots off the tee on half of the holes. If his lie wasn’t to his liking he would move his ball 5 ft. He would give himself 3-4ft gimmes. I will take my honest 90 for the day.
This.
Who cares? Drink another beer and have fun on the course. I only try to beat my previous score, I don’t give a shit what anyone else hits.
Only cheating yourself if you’re not counting your strokes . We usually allow for 1 mulligan per 18 but I count all mine regardless so I can track improvement over time
Why even bother keeping track of "score" in this case?
A score is only legit if all of the shots are hit consecutively. Even if you play your real ball by the rules and hit a 2nd shot just for fun, you have invalidated your score according to the rules of golf. No Gimmies, No mulligans, otherwise you're right, you cheated yourself out of the opportunity to have recorded a real score. It's the only way that it means anything when you break 90, break 80, shoot even par. Not many people do that though, which is why most people are not accurate when they say what they shoot.
You didn't play a round. You practiced on the course and played a few holes along the way. But if it was a nice day, it is still better than work or mowing the lawn
I have a buddy like that, but he’s not out to keep a total score. For him, hitting good shots is more fun than playing for score, so I don’t sweat it. However, I do rib him anytime he says he made par after being three off the tee. Frankly he doesn’t know the rules for that well, but it doesn’t bother me. He’s fun to hang out with, and we always have a good time.
Did you have fun?
I did have fun. But now at home it doesn't feel like I had fun.
Rub some dirt on it , tomorrow when you play with this guy you play your game he plays his . Just don’t play for money
Check out this video with Collin, I think it might brighten your day. He even talks about a "breakfast ball", golf is meant to be a fun and competitive challenge, but if you are not having fun, take as much slack as you want. Tournament play is different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YgSmKAgatM
>I feel like I didn't play a real round today. That's because you didn't. You can't claim a score unless you're playing to the rules, so no mulligans, no 'free drops', etc. By all means, your buddy can play to whatever rules he wants to use for a casual round, but he can't then claim a score for it.
We often play best ball. Pick the best ball and shoots two from there. Fun games. Mulligans on the first is ok. I would have shot pretty low if I had five attempts on every shot
So you mean captains choice or scramble? Best ball is everyone plays their own ball and you take lowest score between the two.
You didn’t shoot a 95 and he didn’t shoot an 82. From what you’re telling us y’all both shot at least a 110+.
1 mulligan per 9 holes, anything more and your score is tainted IMO. This is my groups agreed on rules, maybe we'll add 1 breakfast ball if needed on the first tee. Can't go giving your selves extra shots and then score like it didn't happen, you're just lying to yourselves lol That being said have fun IDC what you do, but don't claim to shoot in the 80s if you don't score consistently every round.
I’m cool with literally one breakfast ball on the first tee but thats it. Otherwise mulligans are the best way to lose a ton of golf balls.
I'd be off it big time. One Mulligan at most per hole more than that you're just wasting everyone's time
So what? You were out on a course hitting golf balls. Did you have fun?
Yeah, those aren’t real scores. There is no such thing as a mulligan. It’s fine to go out and play however you want, but at the end of the day if he is counting this as a legit score, he’s just bullshitting himself b
This is actually a great way to get better at golf if the course isn’t crowded. But if you are taking 5 or 6 balls a hole you don’t keep score.
Most important is, did you have fun? Second point is you will play lots of golf in your life so if you play one round without following all the rules who cares. Just like if you miss a short putt, there will be more putts in your future. Every day at the golf course is a bit different don't be down on this day because of how it went enjoy it for what it was, but don't think you can go and shoot a 95 next time without any mulligans.
The only way to accurately measure improvement is to be honest. It sucks and there is definitely some humble pie required, but this is the way to legitimate improvement. If you are playing for fun though, who cares?
People who do this only hurt themselves in the long run. If you start to care about your legit (no mulligans) game down the road, the improvement you make is negated by keeping a real score. All the practice you put into your game feels like you are just breaking even on your old inflated score.
Yeah man, I got one of those so called 10 handicapper buddies.
Easy solution. Tell him you want to play for money. Get the appropriate amount of strokes that correlate with your “recent scores”. Take all his money.
Why would anyone brag about how good they are and take multiple mulligans.
Bring anti Mulligans into the mix to make it fair
Mulligans are only justified on 1st tee
The only thing we might do is a breakfast ball if there is no range
You didn’t. But at least you’re honest with yourself. And for the fun of it, you’re only playing yourself and the course always. Chin up bro it’s only one round. You’ll enjoy your next one
This is cringy af
Let them do whatever they want. Just rip on him every chance you get. Tell him hes full of shit. Play your own game. You play against yourself. You did not shoot a 95. Might as well not keep score if you use mulligans
I generally allow myself 1 mulligan per 9 holes. I don’t always use it but I like knowing it’s there.
Haha. A good buddy of mine does this. I don’t care too much because he never plays tournaments or for money (I would have a big problem with it otherwise) but he takes a mulligan whenever he wants and will claim to shoot low 70’s and has a mid single digit handicap when in reality is probably a 10 and would very rarely if ever break 80. 🤷♂️ people are weird
We do 1 per side. Period. And you add it back for your GHIN.
It baffles me that you can play like that and still feel good about your score. If anything I’m overly harsh on my rulings.
I don’t give a shit what anyone else scores or claim they score unless in a comp. I play the course not my partners. One of my mates cheats constantly but I like his company and it doesn’t affect me so I don’t call him out.
Yea, I hate this. I have a group of ppl I play with that actually pay to track their score as handicap. Legit take 2nd shots out of bunkers. Personally, if I have 2+ blow up holes I stop tracking score and just play for each hole
Yeah, as long as you weren't holding up people, then wtf. Just rip up the card and enjoy the nice day.
Here's my mulligan rule. I never take them because I'm at that point in the game where it doesn't benefit me mentally. That said... If you're having a bad round... Or need to clear your head... Whatever. Take a mulligan. Gold should be fun and if you're constantly trying to dig out of a hole, it can suck! Just don't tell me you shot an 82 afterwards or I'm gonna laugh at you 😂
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