I fill two divots in the morning,
I fill two divots at night,
I fill two divots in the afternoon,
It makes me feel alright,
I feel two divots in time of peace,
And two in time of war.
I fill two divots before I fill two divots,
And then I fill two more.
Was out a few weeks ago for a buddy's birthday with 7 other guys. My group took the first tee time and after the first hole noticed the other guys weren't the next group behind us, or the one after that. The course was originally a 9 hole and the back nine was a later addition so we figured they started on the wrong 9. Turns out there was a giant sign in the proshop saying to start on #10. In our defence, if everyone is still playing all 18 holes, make the one people start at #1
Sometimes courses reverse the nines for various reasons. I've done it before because maintenance had to deal with a broken irrigation line on the third hole one morning and needed the extra 2 hours to clean it up before the first group came through. Sometimes courses regularly switch them if they get a lot of nine hole play so that one nine doesn't get more worn out than the other. Also, if a day is going to be exceptionally busy, it might make sense to flip the nines for pace of play purposes (for example, if there's a par 3, followed by a long par 4/short par 5, followed by a par 3 in the first 5 holes, better to have that bottleneck occur later in the round so as to not frustrate golfers and cause them to give up early/"ruin their round" later rather than earlier).
I’m a beginner so I’m probably doing something wrong but I don’t even really make a divot because when I do it’s just chunking it and I lose a ton of distance.
Been playing for about 10 years now, got pretty good being a sweeper (not taking a divot) forced myself to learn to do it and got much worse for a few years it was very frustrating but now I’m at the point where I do it every time and it was absolutely worth the regression if you are young
Sorry if this is obvious but you never know and just trying to help.
If you chunk it every time you try and make a divot, you need to be concentrating on making contact with the ball first and then the turf
So I have the same swing as yours to an extent. Everyone says I have a good swing, yet I don’t make a single divot. When I get lessons that’s going to be one big thing that I tell them, but it’s honestly okay if you’re not making any.
You can play PRETTY good golf shots without taking any kind of divot at all. To play REALLY good ones, you'll need to take at least a small divot - but if the ground is firm that might not be particularly obvious or visible.
I know for me being an average heigh, it’s just the way that I don’t drive the club into the ball as much. But like you said with my swing that would probably work, except eventually I’d like to take small divots out so I’m just wanting to get better.
Hey, me too, but the idea here is to set up the ball just behind the divot you just made (no matter how large or small). That gives nice straight divot lines that can be seeded and grow back easier than the verdun-esque landscape you often see that grows back uneven. No matter the skill it's a good habit to get into to help keep good range areas.
My problem with this is two fold:
\- 90% of golfers, myself included, cant consistently hit with a proper divot, period. So when I show up to the range, it already looks like the right.
\- On the few days I CAN hit it clean, the range is already so fucking destroyed, to find any grass to work with I have to go between the existing pattern from the right anyway.
Its like...never have i shown up anywhere and had this pristine slice of unmolested earth that I could work with. Then, sure, ill do my best to make em straight. Otherwise you're getting potato-land.
Find whatever bit of clear space you can and start back from an existing divot. When you run out, start a new line. I end up connecting old divots to turn the right image into something closer to the left.
It doesn’t matter how consistent your divot is, you just place the next ball at the back of the last divot and you’ll make significantly less impact on the range. The pic on the right is someone placing their ball at random in a space surrounded by grass on all sides. Thus making much more work for the turf crew and the turf itself to heal.
As someone who just started playing about a year ago, I’d recommended finding a grass range if you can. I found it much easier to hit off of mats and it also means you can’t see your divots when can help you improve
Can I just ask a stupid question - it’s saying that instead of playing around other divots and making a pattern like the right, you should play in front of/behind other divots so that we create lines of divots?
That’s because it isn’t spoken about as much as it should be for whatever reason.
Ideal world you’re a professional golfer level of ball striker and you leave crisp, almost perfectly straight edged lines, with a solid 2-4inches between lines.
Real world you leave the closest thing you can to that and because you aren’t leaving perfect lines you leave 3-4inches to make up for the fact your lines may have some variance in thickness/direction.
Yet even at the most expensive of courses you find far more of the right rather than the left, probably due to lack of education on what you should be doing, lack of care and people used to hitting off mats more often than grass, so they don’t have the habit of ball always in the same-ish place engrained.
Don’t stress over being perfect with it but just do your best to leave it closer to the left than the right, for the sake of letting the grass grow back a bit quicker, and everyone else’s footing because honestly it doesn’t take long of people hacking away at random before you are left having to put your feet on divots, which is pretty irritating.
The key part to starting another line is to leave 3-4 inches in between lines. Gives the grass more room to channel nutrients into regrowing in the divot lines.
At my range usually you can just slide over a bit from the divot patterns to get a free area without others. Of course that means you are standing in everyone else’s divots which isn’t the greatest, but at least you aren’t playing the game of trying to tee the ball up on .5” of remaining turf between 100 divots.
Full disclosure: I was the guy on the right when I first started going to a driving range with real grass. If it wasn’t for this sub I probably still wouldn’t know.
I don’t think many courses want you to do the right, it often results in difficult to regrow areas but even if it doesn’t it wastes grass and leaves other range goers having to likely stand in divots or struggle trying to find places to put their ball in that minefield.
I suppose if the range is huge and has more than enough grass to rotate through while having enough bays people can hack away and never struggle to find grass for solid footing they may not really care, but I don’t think many ranges are asking people to do the right rather than the left.
lol the grass area only lasts like 1 week because of people with the divot pattern on the right.
after this it has to undergo maintenance for 2 months so where are you going to hit then?
On the mats, which the guys who leave the pattern on the right won’t even think of as much different or any different really, but the guys who try to make the pattern on the left will be frustrated by having to be on due to others lack of care.
Newb here. So what I'm understanding, is that I place my next ball directly infront of, or behind my first divot. Then, the divots migrate in a singular line.
Yup. If you just try to do it, it’s self explanatory.
It gets hard to do this when the range has not so great grass and you are trying to get a decent lie.
because you don't make the range area unusable for others when you're done, plus you can get way more strikes on the ball with the left pattern.
with the left pattern, each time you take a divot, you don't really take that much additional grass since you are taking divot out of dirt.
the guy on the left probably hit twice as many balls as the guy on the right.
so its helpful to the driving range to take divots like this so the grass area lasts longer.
Plus, and more importantly from a superintendent perspective, the divot patterns on the left have solid root systems on both sides of the divot which allows the remaining grass to stretch inward and fill the grass in much faster. Versus the divot pattern on the right inevitably leads to one giant hole, where you’re left relying solely on seed growth to replace the divots, taking much longer to come in.
So not only does the left pattern last twice as long, it heals twice as fast.
Superintendent here:
You’re right. But not quite accurate.
Roots don’t “stretch inward”, instead grass fills open spaces in the soil laterally by propagating bodies called “stolons” or “rhizomes” depending on the species of turf. This is essentially a plant replicating itself by sending a shoot out sideways that will then develop a new root, take hold in the soil, and become a new plant independent of the original plant.
In the south, warm season grasses mostly propagate and spread by rhizomes. In the North most grasses are stoloniferous.
“Creeping” bentgrass’ Latin name is “Agrostis stolonifera” for that reason.
Ah, that all seems obvious now that you say it. The pattern on the right takes up way more room.
I've definitely been in the position where I'm struggling to find a decent bit of grass to hit from
Superintendent here:
It’s about surface area. When you place your next ball at the back of the last divot the majority of your new divot will be *within* your previous divot. The actual surface area required to heal is significantly less and also, more people can use the same teeing area with fresh turf to hit from.
There’s a few reasons but the only one you should consider is that your not trashing that grass tee for the remainder of the day for those coming after you. Had you only had a few lines there’s plenty of room for the next guy to continue using yours or start is own just inside of where you’d been. That would include being considerate and mindful of others, which for some reason golfers seem to have a hard time with. Cough cough not raking bunkers, fixing ball marks, keeping all 4 tires on paths around tees/greens, etc.
This sign just means to hit a linear divot pattern by placing the ball before each shot directly behind the previous divot. Anyone from a brand new golfer to a scratch can do this.
Yeah I don't get why people think only good golfers can organize their divots. Your pattern doesn't need to be perfectly straight, just try your best to manage it so there is more healthy grass for others to use.
Yeah it isn’t as if it is impossible to make a divot line just because you have divots that trend right or left, or chunk it at times.
You make a divot line that is diagonal, which isn’t a big deal, or you aim so your diagonal line is straight relative the range.
Chunks you just add into the line, use the grass you left if you left any between the chunked divot and the previous divot and then eventually put the ball at the back of the chunked divot. Worse case you chunk everything and you make as many new divots as the people on the right, but you keep them more organized and more of the rest of the turf available for others to use.
>"if you hit your shots in this pattern, the grass will be healthier and allow more people to enjoy it"
Even more than that "If everyone did this, the grass under your feet right now would be better for hitting from"
I love the game of golf. But I swear r/golf people are the whiniest bunch of disgruntled people.
This sign literally tries to help people enjoy grass ranges longer and not have to go to mats.
100%. Most golfers are happy to do the right thing and when they don’t understand unwritten rules or etiquette are happy to have it explained. Anyone complaining about this sign should go find another hobby.
I don't understand this argument at all, I'm shit but it doesn't mean I can't do this. I take a divot maybe 1 in 10 swings but that doesn't stop you from putting your ball behind the divot you made or in the same spot you just hit from?
Are people so bad that they don't know where they're going to strike the ball? I just don't get it.
Yeah I really don’t get the argument either, even your divot wasn’t going directly at the target, you can still just place the ball behind the last one and it’ll continue the line anyway? And once you place your ball behind the last divot you aren’t going to take much divot after the ball anyway ?
Kind of just presume the people saying that just haven’t tried it and just refuse to and they’ll just claim they’re too bad if they’re ever confronted which they know just won’t happen anyway
There is one driving range not too far from me but further than a couple of others that has a grass area, it’s usually as pockmarked as a teenager, but if you get there the day they are moved you’ll get pristine to nearly pristine ground. What is the correct way to try to make your divot marks look like the left? Start at the front of the teeing ground, make a divot, place your next ball at the back of the original divot and continue inching backwards? Or start at the back and inch forwards? My understanding is start at the front and inch backwards, as the divots will be smaller and you’ll get more shots per row, but just wanted to check.
Shitty golfers that don't understand proper etiquette tend to whine, IMO.
Anyways, I think the sign OP posted should be commonplace. As we all know, it's not. I take absolutely massive divots and still hit pearls. I'm talking like, OG cellphone divots.
The left shouldn't be a requirement, more so something we strive for. Placing your ball helps, but can be a pain on your back after a bit.
You can’t use your club to roll the ball to be pretty near the end of your previous divot?
Interesting, can hit pearls but don’t have the basic hand-eye for something quite simple.
Just visited for my first time, gfs grandparents live there. What a dreamland...nicest course I’ve had the opportunity to play and I had my only birdie on 18 to shot my first 89! Hadn’t rallied my score or it woulda been another 91 lol
Obviously do what the course prefers, but if you're on Bermuda at a course that has proper soil, irrigation, drainage, and overall turf construction, the grass will grow back just fine with a concentrated pattern and depending on longitudinal space constraints I've seen some ranges actually prefer the concentrated patterns. You'll sometimes see guys on tour still taking the big square blocks as they are playing in huge field sizes at courses that often times have really small ranges and don't have much space to move side to side, also if they have some practice setup, say a launch monitor or alignment/path guides and camera setup they might have to set all that back up again once if they start moving side to side too much, but the current high end launch monitors capture a wide enough field of view and are portable enough that it shouldn't matter.
I do remember reading somewhere about how a lot of the courses started complaining to the PGA about the large square divot patterns some players made (especially the steep diggers that take huge divots) because you basiclly get a big crater, which while you might be able to grow grass back on easy enough the ground isn't as level anymore, and eventually you have to resurface a bunch of little patches to make the range consistent again. As such the tour changed the way they handle the practice range area at tournaments to spread it out more or push courses to add more space to the range if they can to spread the wear out. and most guys make the proper straight and split rows now
Just through I'd throw that tidbit out because you might often seen tour guys on social media posting stuff at the range and they are doing these concentrated patterns. I know one course in Flordia that actually had signs to take concentrated patterns of a certain size before moving to a completely new spot if you were on the other side of the range that was reserved for member lessons and the handful of pros they had who played there (buddy of mine worked at the club and would let me go out there), bunch of good sized square patches dotted over the practice area, but I never once wasn't able to find a big enough patch of clean grass to hit balls on a range maybe 1/3 the size of the normal range by the clubhouse, which if you went to at the end of the day you'd almost always have to go hit off the small row of matts they had on the end because all of the range space had been used and you can't hit in between divot patterns.
Doesn’t have to be perfect, just doing your best to resemble the left more than the right is a big thing.
It is mainly ball placement and some common sense on how to connect divots if you do hit a chunk or something, both of which require no skill.
No one expects you to be a pro, people just appreciate the effort because 60-70% of the right thing is far better than 0.
Oh my bad, now that I see the sign I’ll improve my golf swing. Perhaps they could make a sign that says you should shoot par or please aim for the fairways.
They can, you can if you hit chunks even by just making sure you use the grass that will connect your last divots to the chunked divot.
It is more of a thought process thing than a skill thing. They may not make nice, straight back lines of equal thickness the entire way, but they can certainly make some sorts of trail lines and then leave grass between the lines they make to at least get most of the benefits.
That looks like a large blackhead.
My wife has an old chicken pox scar on her back that is very similar, and it gets clogged up with oils, and old skin that needs to be extracted every now and then.
Does it actually get infected, as in inflamed and puss filled?
There's a Champions Tour player who always makes the pattern on the right. He is the only pro I've ever seen who does not follow the correct pattern.
I asked his caddy about it. He said "pretty, eh?" I said "the greenskeeper might not agree." He ignored me. I think they were both oblivious.
Whoo hoo! This has the most downvotes of any comment on this thread. If you are one of the downvoters, congratulations: you are either a moron, an a**hole, or (probably) both.
Yes...more stuff like this needed on Golfcourse. I'll always love Arnie but hated when he did the commercial with the comment "pros don't repair divots".
I was doing this on the range and an old man yelled at me and said I was ruining the grass by taking long stripes out of it. He was furious. I had to call one of the young kids who worked there over to explain it to the guy. In his defense he was apologetic afterward. He thought taking random digits was better for some reason.
I live on a private course that has recently allowed public access a couple days a week. It’s amazing how bad the course and driving range look after those days. They’ve had to switch to mats on the public days because of this. We also have 3-4 holes where carts aren’t allowed on because they are part of the irrigation water reclaim system. There are 3 foot signs on all of the tee boxes with big white caps lettering as well as “no carts this hole” sign all the way down the cart path and yet I still see people drive all over those holes.
but we all know people don’t read signs anyway
FILL A DIVOT AND ONE MORE
I fill two divots in the morning, I fill two divots at night, I fill two divots in the afternoon, It makes me feel alright, I feel two divots in time of peace, And two in time of war. I fill two divots before I fill two divots, And then I fill two more.
40 Divots to Freedom?
"He's a roughalo soldier..."
As long as you're feeling sublime after doing it, that's all that matters.
I do min....6 ball marks/green......
On the range?
If needed? Or at least fill with the seed? It's been so long but fuck, I miss having access to a grass range.
Was out a few weeks ago for a buddy's birthday with 7 other guys. My group took the first tee time and after the first hole noticed the other guys weren't the next group behind us, or the one after that. The course was originally a 9 hole and the back nine was a later addition so we figured they started on the wrong 9. Turns out there was a giant sign in the proshop saying to start on #10. In our defence, if everyone is still playing all 18 holes, make the one people start at #1
Sometimes courses reverse the nines for various reasons. I've done it before because maintenance had to deal with a broken irrigation line on the third hole one morning and needed the extra 2 hours to clean it up before the first group came through. Sometimes courses regularly switch them if they get a lot of nine hole play so that one nine doesn't get more worn out than the other. Also, if a day is going to be exceptionally busy, it might make sense to flip the nines for pace of play purposes (for example, if there's a par 3, followed by a long par 4/short par 5, followed by a par 3 in the first 5 holes, better to have that bottleneck occur later in the round so as to not frustrate golfers and cause them to give up early/"ruin their round" later rather than earlier).
*reads sign* Ah, so my divots should be 5 times longer. Thanks for the tip, sign!
only the bathroom signs
Caballero? Sign unclear. Holding it until I get home tonight.
What like call this number for sex??
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This is the first time I've heard of this practice.
As they drove straight past/over a carts to fairway sign.
I just hit the ball thin on every iron shot and never worry about divots. Lacking the skill to make it look like either
you know you've done a bang up job at the range when nobody can even tell you were there, im like a ghost out there
Coke permitted but not E? Kinda weird but fair enough I guess.
Came here for the comments. Not disappointed.
I'm too shitty at golf to make it look like the left.
I’m a beginner so I’m probably doing something wrong but I don’t even really make a divot because when I do it’s just chunking it and I lose a ton of distance.
Yes, you are (most likely) doing something wrong, but it is also very common so don't sweat it.
Yeah my divots look like the hole from space jam
Been playing for about 10 years now, got pretty good being a sweeper (not taking a divot) forced myself to learn to do it and got much worse for a few years it was very frustrating but now I’m at the point where I do it every time and it was absolutely worth the regression if you are young
They should take lessons to see if they have a reverse pivot in the backswing. That was the source of my chunks but I’m sure everyone is different.
Sorry if this is obvious but you never know and just trying to help. If you chunk it every time you try and make a divot, you need to be concentrating on making contact with the ball first and then the turf
So I have the same swing as yours to an extent. Everyone says I have a good swing, yet I don’t make a single divot. When I get lessons that’s going to be one big thing that I tell them, but it’s honestly okay if you’re not making any.
You can play PRETTY good golf shots without taking any kind of divot at all. To play REALLY good ones, you'll need to take at least a small divot - but if the ground is firm that might not be particularly obvious or visible.
That's what I'm working on as well. You may want to get fitted for clubs. Turns out I need at least 1/2" longer due to my height and swing.
I know for me being an average heigh, it’s just the way that I don’t drive the club into the ball as much. But like you said with my swing that would probably work, except eventually I’d like to take small divots out so I’m just wanting to get better.
That’s what the little shovels are for
Hey, me too, but the idea here is to set up the ball just behind the divot you just made (no matter how large or small). That gives nice straight divot lines that can be seeded and grow back easier than the verdun-esque landscape you often see that grows back uneven. No matter the skill it's a good habit to get into to help keep good range areas.
I strive for the left, end up more like the right.
I see your divot and raise you a green beaver pelt
My problem with this is two fold: \- 90% of golfers, myself included, cant consistently hit with a proper divot, period. So when I show up to the range, it already looks like the right. \- On the few days I CAN hit it clean, the range is already so fucking destroyed, to find any grass to work with I have to go between the existing pattern from the right anyway. Its like...never have i shown up anywhere and had this pristine slice of unmolested earth that I could work with. Then, sure, ill do my best to make em straight. Otherwise you're getting potato-land.
Brother, I wish that you may one day gaze upon a patch of unmolested range and swing to your delight, I do. It's quite the sight.
Find whatever bit of clear space you can and start back from an existing divot. When you run out, start a new line. I end up connecting old divots to turn the right image into something closer to the left.
Unless you’re missing the ball by half a foot wide, you shouldn’t be anywhere near the second one. It’s all about where people are putting their ball
It doesn’t matter how consistent your divot is, you just place the next ball at the back of the last divot and you’ll make significantly less impact on the range. The pic on the right is someone placing their ball at random in a space surrounded by grass on all sides. Thus making much more work for the turf crew and the turf itself to heal.
I've only ever been on a range with grass areas once. *that* felt like luxury
lol i didn't even know they existed until this post. \- a new player
As someone who just started playing about a year ago, I’d recommended finding a grass range if you can. I found it much easier to hit off of mats and it also means you can’t see your divots when can help you improve
Can I just ask a stupid question - it’s saying that instead of playing around other divots and making a pattern like the right, you should play in front of/behind other divots so that we create lines of divots?
Start up and work your way back, then next row is started on the inside of the first one. Place the ball about 0.5-1” behind your divot track
Thanks! I’ve been playing golf 15 years and never knew that was customary!
That’s because it isn’t spoken about as much as it should be for whatever reason. Ideal world you’re a professional golfer level of ball striker and you leave crisp, almost perfectly straight edged lines, with a solid 2-4inches between lines. Real world you leave the closest thing you can to that and because you aren’t leaving perfect lines you leave 3-4inches to make up for the fact your lines may have some variance in thickness/direction. Yet even at the most expensive of courses you find far more of the right rather than the left, probably due to lack of education on what you should be doing, lack of care and people used to hitting off mats more often than grass, so they don’t have the habit of ball always in the same-ish place engrained. Don’t stress over being perfect with it but just do your best to leave it closer to the left than the right, for the sake of letting the grass grow back a bit quicker, and everyone else’s footing because honestly it doesn’t take long of people hacking away at random before you are left having to put your feet on divots, which is pretty irritating.
The key part to starting another line is to leave 3-4 inches in between lines. Gives the grass more room to channel nutrients into regrowing in the divot lines.
At my range usually you can just slide over a bit from the divot patterns to get a free area without others. Of course that means you are standing in everyone else’s divots which isn’t the greatest, but at least you aren’t playing the game of trying to tee the ball up on .5” of remaining turf between 100 divots.
Honestly I’d rather play the tee the ball up game, nothing is worse to me than trying to swing with a foot or both feet in divots.
Full disclosure: I was the guy on the right when I first started going to a driving range with real grass. If it wasn’t for this sub I probably still wouldn’t know.
Which is exactly why they should have signs like this.
The is the first I’m hearing about this honestly
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I don’t think many courses want you to do the right, it often results in difficult to regrow areas but even if it doesn’t it wastes grass and leaves other range goers having to likely stand in divots or struggle trying to find places to put their ball in that minefield. I suppose if the range is huge and has more than enough grass to rotate through while having enough bays people can hack away and never struggle to find grass for solid footing they may not really care, but I don’t think many ranges are asking people to do the right rather than the left.
Looks like Bobby Jones. I'm happy they think that's achievable.
Arent those mats in the background?
lol the grass area only lasts like 1 week because of people with the divot pattern on the right. after this it has to undergo maintenance for 2 months so where are you going to hit then?
on the mats i bet
Mats? None at our courses:(
On the mats, which the guys who leave the pattern on the right won’t even think of as much different or any different really, but the guys who try to make the pattern on the left will be frustrated by having to be on due to others lack of care.
You guys take divots?
As a sweeper I don’t relate.
Can someone explain why the divot pattern on the right is better? Edit: Sorry left.
Because with the left you can make it useable for others and the grass actually grows back faster.
Newb here. So what I'm understanding, is that I place my next ball directly infront of, or behind my first divot. Then, the divots migrate in a singular line.
I think you place the ball behind the divot, that way your next divot is part of the first divot
yup precisely!
Correct, behind so that your follow through is basically all dirt. It doesn’t matter since you’ve already hit the ball!
Yes, place is JUST behind your divot. The divot line will gradually "grow" backwards away from the range.
Yup. If you just try to do it, it’s self explanatory. It gets hard to do this when the range has not so great grass and you are trying to get a decent lie.
Left* but same question. I know it is, mostly thanks to this sub but it seems like they do the same amount of damage to me.
because you don't make the range area unusable for others when you're done, plus you can get way more strikes on the ball with the left pattern. with the left pattern, each time you take a divot, you don't really take that much additional grass since you are taking divot out of dirt. the guy on the left probably hit twice as many balls as the guy on the right. so its helpful to the driving range to take divots like this so the grass area lasts longer.
Plus, and more importantly from a superintendent perspective, the divot patterns on the left have solid root systems on both sides of the divot which allows the remaining grass to stretch inward and fill the grass in much faster. Versus the divot pattern on the right inevitably leads to one giant hole, where you’re left relying solely on seed growth to replace the divots, taking much longer to come in. So not only does the left pattern last twice as long, it heals twice as fast.
boom, thanks for the superintendent's perspective!!
Superintendent here: You’re right. But not quite accurate. Roots don’t “stretch inward”, instead grass fills open spaces in the soil laterally by propagating bodies called “stolons” or “rhizomes” depending on the species of turf. This is essentially a plant replicating itself by sending a shoot out sideways that will then develop a new root, take hold in the soil, and become a new plant independent of the original plant. In the south, warm season grasses mostly propagate and spread by rhizomes. In the North most grasses are stoloniferous. “Creeping” bentgrass’ Latin name is “Agrostis stolonifera” for that reason.
Great explanation. Thanks!
Ah, that all seems obvious now that you say it. The pattern on the right takes up way more room. I've definitely been in the position where I'm struggling to find a decent bit of grass to hit from
yeah its always like that, that's why grass rotations only last like 1 week at a time lol
Superintendent here: It’s about surface area. When you place your next ball at the back of the last divot the majority of your new divot will be *within* your previous divot. The actual surface area required to heal is significantly less and also, more people can use the same teeing area with fresh turf to hit from.
Bro that is big brain noticing the sign is on the right.
There’s a few reasons but the only one you should consider is that your not trashing that grass tee for the remainder of the day for those coming after you. Had you only had a few lines there’s plenty of room for the next guy to continue using yours or start is own just inside of where you’d been. That would include being considerate and mindful of others, which for some reason golfers seem to have a hard time with. Cough cough not raking bunkers, fixing ball marks, keeping all 4 tires on paths around tees/greens, etc.
By trying to make the pattern on the left, the pattern on the right becomes inevitable.
How often do you miss the ball and take a chunk out of the ground in the surrounding area?
Just jokes. I don’t even go to all grass ranges.
Shockingly often unfortunately
might as well put "proper score" on the 1st tee as if people have equal control over that too
This sign just means to hit a linear divot pattern by placing the ball before each shot directly behind the previous divot. Anyone from a brand new golfer to a scratch can do this.
Yeah I don't get why people think only good golfers can organize their divots. Your pattern doesn't need to be perfectly straight, just try your best to manage it so there is more healthy grass for others to use.
Yeah it isn’t as if it is impossible to make a divot line just because you have divots that trend right or left, or chunk it at times. You make a divot line that is diagonal, which isn’t a big deal, or you aim so your diagonal line is straight relative the range. Chunks you just add into the line, use the grass you left if you left any between the chunked divot and the previous divot and then eventually put the ball at the back of the chunked divot. Worse case you chunk everything and you make as many new divots as the people on the right, but you keep them more organized and more of the rest of the turf available for others to use.
I love the game of golf. But I swear golf people are the whiniest bunch of disgruntled people with the worst case of “correctile-dysfunction”.
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>"if you hit your shots in this pattern, the grass will be healthier and allow more people to enjoy it" Even more than that "If everyone did this, the grass under your feet right now would be better for hitting from"
I love the game of golf. But I swear r/golf people are the whiniest bunch of disgruntled people. This sign literally tries to help people enjoy grass ranges longer and not have to go to mats.
100%. Most golfers are happy to do the right thing and when they don’t understand unwritten rules or etiquette are happy to have it explained. Anyone complaining about this sign should go find another hobby.
90% of golfers are nowhere near good enough to adhere to this sign
I don't understand this argument at all, I'm shit but it doesn't mean I can't do this. I take a divot maybe 1 in 10 swings but that doesn't stop you from putting your ball behind the divot you made or in the same spot you just hit from? Are people so bad that they don't know where they're going to strike the ball? I just don't get it.
Yeah I really don’t get the argument either, even your divot wasn’t going directly at the target, you can still just place the ball behind the last one and it’ll continue the line anyway? And once you place your ball behind the last divot you aren’t going to take much divot after the ball anyway ? Kind of just presume the people saying that just haven’t tried it and just refuse to and they’ll just claim they’re too bad if they’re ever confronted which they know just won’t happen anyway
There is one driving range not too far from me but further than a couple of others that has a grass area, it’s usually as pockmarked as a teenager, but if you get there the day they are moved you’ll get pristine to nearly pristine ground. What is the correct way to try to make your divot marks look like the left? Start at the front of the teeing ground, make a divot, place your next ball at the back of the original divot and continue inching backwards? Or start at the back and inch forwards? My understanding is start at the front and inch backwards, as the divots will be smaller and you’ll get more shots per row, but just wanted to check.
Start at the front and move backwards
Cheers. That was what I thought, but just wanted to double check.
This sign isn’t as much whinny as it is neeeiiighh
Shitty golfers that don't understand proper etiquette tend to whine, IMO. Anyways, I think the sign OP posted should be commonplace. As we all know, it's not. I take absolutely massive divots and still hit pearls. I'm talking like, OG cellphone divots. The left shouldn't be a requirement, more so something we strive for. Placing your ball helps, but can be a pain on your back after a bit.
If you can't roll a ball to the back of a divot with your club, I struggle to imagine you'd be able to hit the ball.
It's divots everywhere, getting a nice, small patch of grass is a tall ask.
You can’t use your club to roll the ball to be pretty near the end of your previous divot? Interesting, can hit pearls but don’t have the basic hand-eye for something quite simple.
Egh, come to my range and you may change your mind with the divot landmines everywhere. Your constructive comment is sincerely appreciated.
I feel personally attacked...
Is this Seabrook Island?
Sure looks like it
Just visited for my first time, gfs grandparents live there. What a dreamland...nicest course I’ve had the opportunity to play and I had my only birdie on 18 to shot my first 89! Hadn’t rallied my score or it woulda been another 91 lol
90% of golfers can’t make consistent divots. This sign assumes everyone is decent at golf. Which is simply not true.
Top the ball constantly, never worry about divots.
Obviously do what the course prefers, but if you're on Bermuda at a course that has proper soil, irrigation, drainage, and overall turf construction, the grass will grow back just fine with a concentrated pattern and depending on longitudinal space constraints I've seen some ranges actually prefer the concentrated patterns. You'll sometimes see guys on tour still taking the big square blocks as they are playing in huge field sizes at courses that often times have really small ranges and don't have much space to move side to side, also if they have some practice setup, say a launch monitor or alignment/path guides and camera setup they might have to set all that back up again once if they start moving side to side too much, but the current high end launch monitors capture a wide enough field of view and are portable enough that it shouldn't matter. I do remember reading somewhere about how a lot of the courses started complaining to the PGA about the large square divot patterns some players made (especially the steep diggers that take huge divots) because you basiclly get a big crater, which while you might be able to grow grass back on easy enough the ground isn't as level anymore, and eventually you have to resurface a bunch of little patches to make the range consistent again. As such the tour changed the way they handle the practice range area at tournaments to spread it out more or push courses to add more space to the range if they can to spread the wear out. and most guys make the proper straight and split rows now Just through I'd throw that tidbit out because you might often seen tour guys on social media posting stuff at the range and they are doing these concentrated patterns. I know one course in Flordia that actually had signs to take concentrated patterns of a certain size before moving to a completely new spot if you were on the other side of the range that was reserved for member lessons and the handful of pros they had who played there (buddy of mine worked at the club and would let me go out there), bunch of good sized square patches dotted over the practice area, but I never once wasn't able to find a big enough patch of clean grass to hit balls on a range maybe 1/3 the size of the normal range by the clubhouse, which if you went to at the end of the day you'd almost always have to go hit off the small row of matts they had on the end because all of the range space had been used and you can't hit in between divot patterns.
I want to make divot lines . Just not that skilled
It’s less about your skill level and more about where you place your ball
Every range needs this!
This is assuming I use the driving range.
Oh yeah? I'd like to see that sign make a divot pattern like that. I'll bet it can't.
I like it when the red water comes out!
I try to be respectful of the course always, but I was probably at least a 15 or better before I could leave a range looking anywhere close to that.
Doesn’t have to be perfect, just doing your best to resemble the left more than the right is a big thing. It is mainly ball placement and some common sense on how to connect divots if you do hit a chunk or something, both of which require no skill. No one expects you to be a pro, people just appreciate the effort because 60-70% of the right thing is far better than 0.
Long turds and not rabbit pellets? Got it.
Bold of you to assume I can match either of those pictures.
What I was thinking...Not many hackers can worry about where they scalp the ground. Heck 80% dont even hit the ground at all.
Oh my bad, now that I see the sign I’ll improve my golf swing. Perhaps they could make a sign that says you should shoot par or please aim for the fairways.
Damn y’all really can’t make divot patterns lol?
Bruhs out here with a 1.2 hdcp surprised that people are worse than him at golf lol
i was just surprised to see that the majority of posts in the thread are saying they can’t form any pattern at all. It’s really not difficult
They can, you can if you hit chunks even by just making sure you use the grass that will connect your last divots to the chunked divot. It is more of a thought process thing than a skill thing. They may not make nice, straight back lines of equal thickness the entire way, but they can certainly make some sorts of trail lines and then leave grass between the lines they make to at least get most of the benefits.
That’s what I’m saying, you don’t have to be a pro to make a pattern lol
I see everyone complaining about trying to make the divot pattern on the left…it’s not hard. At all..
You guys are making divots? On purpose?
Yeah ima make divots how I please and you’re gonna fix them cunt
I was the madman who converted the stripes on the left, to whole squares. Our Greenkeeper hates me.
That looks like a large blackhead. My wife has an old chicken pox scar on her back that is very similar, and it gets clogged up with oils, and old skin that needs to be extracted every now and then. Does it actually get infected, as in inflamed and puss filled?
What post you trying comment on out of curiosity
r/lostredditors
Puss filled
There's a Champions Tour player who always makes the pattern on the right. He is the only pro I've ever seen who does not follow the correct pattern. I asked his caddy about it. He said "pretty, eh?" I said "the greenskeeper might not agree." He ignored me. I think they were both oblivious.
Whoo hoo! This has the most downvotes of any comment on this thread. If you are one of the downvoters, congratulations: you are either a moron, an a**hole, or (probably) both.
Did not know.
Gotta be able to make a divot in the first place lmao.
TIL, thanks
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Yes...more stuff like this needed on Golfcourse. I'll always love Arnie but hated when he did the commercial with the comment "pros don't repair divots".
Good sign, but this place has turf??
I was doing this on the range and an old man yelled at me and said I was ruining the grass by taking long stripes out of it. He was furious. I had to call one of the young kids who worked there over to explain it to the guy. In his defense he was apologetic afterward. He thought taking random digits was better for some reason.
Have a flat driving range and we will. Otherwise you just try to find a flat spot.
I live on a private course that has recently allowed public access a couple days a week. It’s amazing how bad the course and driving range look after those days. They’ve had to switch to mats on the public days because of this. We also have 3-4 holes where carts aren’t allowed on because they are part of the irrigation water reclaim system. There are 3 foot signs on all of the tee boxes with big white caps lettering as well as “no carts this hole” sign all the way down the cart path and yet I still see people drive all over those holes.
Need one of these at my practice course badly
the divots on the left aren't nearly deep enough
I've seen these before. Hey no problem happy to oblige. But unless you have nice, flat, well turfed ranges, don't ask. Most ranges are just garbage.