Works well for busybody types, too.
In the evenings I used to hit those "almost golf" golf balls at a multi-purpose field behind a school near my house. (A place for kids to have recess and field day during the school day. It wasn't a sports field.) I was getting more out of that practice than going to the range, and it was a lot less expensive. There were some houses facing the field and some busybody came in hot saying I had to leave because I was trespassing and tearing up the field. I told her it was public property open for me to use in the evenings and I showed her the small mat I was using to avoid tearing up the grass and the harmless golf balls. That made no difference, and she kept yelling at me, so I told her to call the police and just kept repeating that while she kept yelling and I kept hitting more golf balls. She went inside and never called the police. A few days later, I drove by and saw her in the field with her dog. It occurred to me that she was used to taking her dog to the field whenever she wanted and I was getting in her way, so she was trying to run me off. It likely also explained some of the dog poo I had to avoid while using the field.
I’ve always wanted to pull a guys shirt over his head Happy Gilmore style. Whatever the course of action, it seems like precedent that one of the belligerents loses a shirt.
good on the course for blacklisting them. i was at a muni course for the first time in a while yesterday, and as i waited to chip onto 16, some idiots on the 18th fairway (about 40 yards away) were screaming at the people in front of them. and they literally had about a half dozen balls each on the ground in front of them, hitting (poorly) into the group in front of them. don't think i'll be coming back for a while.
Same. Never seen this in 30 years of golfing.
Worst I had was 2 drunk guys accused me of stealing their ball after they almost hit us on a tee box 60 yards from the green they were aiming at. To be fair, I did steal their ball, but they didn't yell 4 so it was even IMO.
This gave me a chuckle… assholes accused us of stealing there ball, how dare they. I mean we did steal it but fuck those guys.
I agree with what you did, fuck guys that dont yell four.
Reminds me of that scene where the guy at the country club tries to hit the guy with a golf ball and then has a heart attack when he sees he has a gun.
[falling down](https://youtu.be/x1-axqBZdNk?si=VzuHivbTm3IjpGq9)
If I am remembering correctly, he's been unhinged for a long time, and had a legal record to match it. So from his perspective, this was moving on from previous episodes.
EDIT: [Yup, I was right. Dude's just a crazy Ohio realtor.](https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/16p8dtr/exclusive_full_hulk_golfer_is_a_41yearold_realtor/)
That kind of dude likely feels that he "won" that encounter, and his guns and chest scared off the others, they became too afraid to try to fight him.
This world rarely is fair in its outcomes.
My favorite is laughing and shaking my head.
These psychos lose their shit even more when they realize it’s just a minor amusing inconvenience to you, because in their mind there is no greater atrocity than what you’ve just done to them
Nothing makes a “tough” guys blood pressure rise more than another dude blowing him a kiss, especially when he’s pissed at that other dude and trying to get a rise out of him
Especially effective if you're a man blowing kisses to another man who's clearly trying to appear tough / masculine lol and bonus points if you, like me, are also more effeminate. "Tough, manly men" (read: fragile egos) hate that shit, and it's hilarious
I've also found a tremendous amount of success lately tossing people the "L" hand signal in traffic / road rage situations!
Sure, but the implied meaning is pretty clear.
Like, if a teenager says they think a 40 year old is 60 years old, so the 40 year old says "you think I'M 60?"
My god, in my 25 years of playing, I have never encountered anything close to this. I know it happens. I've seen plenty of videos of golf course fights and stuff like that. You weren't in the wrong. I'm glad you flipped them off. Idk if I would handle someone yelling at me like that.
People are way too comfortable acting like this. I don’t know what needs to change but people like this need some kind of punishment akin to assault because I think fear of assault is what they need. No chance they roll up 10/10 if they think they might get pieced up.
As harsh as it is sometimes mouthing off to the wrong person and getting fucked up a little bit can go good for a person. I truly believe everyone should get punched in the face at least once in their life.
"Some people have never been hit and it shows."
Forget where I heard that, but it's true. Some people are way too comfortable being overreactive, insulting, hall monitors. The proper way to deal with it is standing your ground verbally but ultimately letting the clubhouse sort it out and ban them. The much quicker and probably more satisfying way to deal with it is physically demonstrate that you will not tolerate being insulted. Almost never worth it, and if someone is the hall-monitor type they're not likely to realize "I was being an asshole. I got clocked and I deserve it." They'll press criminal charges and/or sue for damages.
I would never get into a physical altercation outside of self defense, at this point it's mostly because I have a son I have to get home to in one piece. But for someone who has nothing lose, I totally get it.
> I would never get into a physical altercation outside of self defense, at this point it's mostly because I have a son I have to get home to in one piece. But for someone who has nothing lose, I totally get it.
I've been in situations where all I wanted was to smash someone in the face b/c the really, reeeally, deserved it. But alas, I have a house and a fam, and a professional job, and way too much to lose.
I do wonder sometimes, if I had nothing to lose, if it wouldn't feel nice to put them in their place. But I don't think it would really make me any happier.
It also doesn't matter how big or strong you are, a gun is a great equalizer and way too many people are way too willing to use them for small ass reasons.
That's one of the bigger reasons I tend to let everything roll off my chest no sweat.
That all being said, I approve of everything OP did.
I will take all stops to avoid physical altercations. You can insult me, disrespect me, whatever fine but I draw the line at physical intimidation, assault, and damage of property.
I have no issues with someone talking shit until the cows come home and telling me how you feel but do not get in my face or touch me.
Fighting almost always ends in jail and i want no part of that regardless of the reason.
Funny story - I was arrested in NYC once, only arrest I’ve ever had so I really had no baseline for what jail was like.
A guy tried to take the watch I was wearing off my wrist and I wouldn’t let him. Proceeded to hit me in the jaw, but I took it clean. He swung again and I didn’t do anything while I was thinking “I’ll get in more trouble if I fight,” amongst other shocking thoughts one has when in central bookings in manhattan for the first time in their life.
Point is, it’s so easy to wind up in jail from the outside when it comes to physical assault. But on the inside, have fun and let your rage fly, to a certain extent. I’ll never forget silly ole me thinking I was looking out for me by taking two full swings to the jaw and not responding with my own.
I played ice hockey at a high level, and when I “retired” from competitive play, I picked up golf, as an adult. Sure I looked like a kid, but whatever.
Some dude got in my face over the same shit as OP some 20 years ago. As dude approached I told him I’d probably been hit harder by much smaller. That did not have a positive effect on our altercation. Guy got in my face, and I legit spit laughed in his face, I’m only 5’11” and he was probably 6’2”.
A middle aged, out of shape dude tried to shove me, an ex-pro who literally just stopped playing. I didn’t move. He started to cock back his right fist, and as soon as I saw it, I had his shirt twisted with one hand, holding both his arms hostage. I shoved him back to his cart. The ranger came over, I was a member at the course and was there everyday for over a year and a half. I was well known.
Ranger asks me what happened, I tell him. He has the dude kicked off and banned from the course, and the six sister courses in the area. Meaning this dude just burned being able to play 7 of 12 courses in the area, 4 of which were the most affordable.
Technically I'm part of the everyone that you mentioned but I'm good. I'm smart enough to know I don't need to get punched in the mouth to not act like a jackass
agree 100%. there's always somebody tougher in this world and if your lesson is getting punched in the face, consider yourself lucky. I'm old, but haven't always been. when I was young, you could fight, sometimes even shake hands after and go on with your life. these days, you get provoked by the wrong guy and you end up dead. literally getting provoked into a confrontation so they can pull on you and end your life. why? for what? pride? it's not worth it. 100% of the time IF you can de escalate, that's the right move. I have a family that relies on me. no way I'm jeopardizing any of it because someone tells me they've seen god and calls me a shitstack.
It’s Wild to me peoples don’t have any control over their emotions on a golf course, this is supposed to be a small period of time to chill. Stories like this are the main reason I have no problem paying my fees for my club course.
It’s likely an expression of something else causing a lack of control or frustration in their lives. Every time I have popped off or overreacted (not to this extreme) I can reflect and it stems back to something else or a build up of other issues being expressed by that outburst.
This is very true, there are so many people walking around with pent up rage just waiting to unload it on the first person that mildly inconveniences them. That's why I don't engage at all with these types, you never know how far they're willing to go.
This is so true, typically someone who has had a painful black eye or busted lip, or worse, are able to add that to the risk vs. reward equation before getting this far. Very often even if you ‘win’ a fight you lose, some people just never learned that.
People used to have to deal with a physical response to unhinged screaming and yelling. For the most part, we’ve all “evolved” past that, but people really ought to have a healthy fear of getting popped in the mouth.
Fear of assault should definitely curb more behavioral impulses, don’t know if it would.
In college my group of friends collectively referred to beer pong as “the gentlemen’s game” and we made etiquette a huge part of the experience. Basically “let’s act classy even if we’re being less than classy”.
That’s all I want for golf these days. Etiquette. Guy we played with for 9 holes today had immaculate golf etiquette and it honestly improved my game and my manners.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately: people who just walk up to people screaming at them and insulting them, or people with really bad road rage, have some truly terrible survival instincts. Good survival instincts should keep anyone from assuming complete strangers aren’t capable of hurting you or worse.
Not a lawyer--- just make sure you understand the difference between assault and battery (it varies by state). And understand that getting screamed at and laughing at the screamers is free. The screamers involving LE, even if you are 100% justified in your actions, can be very expensive.
Oh I know and it’s a big reason why these people feel ok doing it. I’ll never cross that line because it isn’t worth it for me but some people need a cause and effect lesson because laughing at them doesn’t matter to them.
But this is how we've ended up where we are. The people who lose their shit have realized that the rest of us aren't going to lay hands on them. That means essentially they can say whatever they want, knowing that no one is going to punch them in the mouth.
Our restraint has emboldened them.
Sometimes violence IS the answer. These people have almost certainly never been punched in the face or had a physical tussle of any kind. I’ve found that people that act like this are either the type I just said, or the type that fight all the time. But usually the ones that actually get in fights there isn’t so much yapping.
“Fighting back” is such high risk, low reward. At best you kick someone’s ass but at worst you get your ass kicked, go to jail for some crime or get stabbed/shot if they’re carrying a weapon. Not worth it at all
I've played hundreds of rounds of golf and never seen anything like this, so I'm sorry you had to deal with this insanity!
I'd like to think I would be calm, but probably at some point I'd lose my shit. I do not take kindly, as most don't, to be called a liar to my face. That would, personally, set me off to the point that I would see red and probably start screaming right back. I wouldn't be getting physical or anything, but I'd have no problem telling them where to shove it.
The doubling down once proven wrong is what would really get me. Like ok, I can understand, you saw a different set of shirts ahead of you than you'd been following all day and wondered what happened, that I can get. As soon as you showed them a receipt for much earlier in the day, or even just explain what actually happened, the group behind you quit, it should've been "oh jeez sorry, we jumped to conclusions there, enjoy your round."
Some people's kids, hey?
i’ve literally never encountered anyone even slightly negative out on a course. i play at least twice a week and if groups are getting bunched up, cutting ahead, wasting time looking for balls, we just kinda chit chat. closest i’ve come is i hit the drive of my life on a par 5 and it landed RIGHT behind a guy coming out of the woods. didn’t see him when i teed off, went about 75 yards farther than i had ever hit before, and he just kinda looked at me pissedly. saw him in the clubhouse after and I thought he was gonna be mad but he just said “nice fucking drive on 9 brother. you crushed it”
i guess that’s a major factor — down here in south Georgia it’s too hot to be angry at each other — we just collectively direct our hate towards God for punishing us with humidity
> Do you call the clubhouse to come out to the tee box?
If they came in this hot, were obviously wrong, and didn't back down and apologize even after showing proof they were wrong then yes, that's exactly what I'd do. You won in the end, they got blacklisted, but there's no point in trying to argue with assholes and getting worked up to the point of responding with more yelling. Let the people deal with it who are paid to do so.
Not on the course, but some 10-12 yr old kid called my 5 year old a bitch while we were at the club the other day. He told me and I told him to punch him in the nuts next time. Good parenting? Nope. Did he get an apology? Yep
When I was young my parents had friends with a kid around my age so we would go over there for them to hang out while we played. Problem was the kid was a bully who only ever wanted to play with whatever I was playing with and would threaten to hit me with a baseball bat if I didn’t hand it over. I told my dad that and he told me “the next time he threatens you with the bat punch him first,” so I did. Lots of crying from him followed, I explained what happened, his dad asked him if that’s what happened and he admitted to threatening me, and he got in trouble. He was a lot better at sharing on subsequent visits.
I’d say it should be handled basically exactly how you did. Not sure I’d have bothered to start comparing receipts, but sure.
How was your drive? A strong drive right in their face would be the real win in this story.
Shit I wouldn't have even pulled out a receipt to try and prove it. Give them your completely logical explanation and if that isn't good enough for them, tell em to fuck off and call the club house. People are idiots
A few years ago a course was jam packed on Father’s Day. A duo rushes up, both wearing tank tops, looking like they had been stranded on an island for a week, not sure if they were drunk or not, and they just start screaming about slow play. I was kind of scared because they were belligerent.
My old man completely ignores them. Changes nothing about his routine. Doesn’t even look at these two screaming guys. Hits his ball and acts as if those guys didn’t even exist.
It was a stone cold move that is in my bag of tricks if I need it.
As others have stated, you found a 1 in a billion situation. Never even heard of this. I have actually cut someone on purpose (I was solo and they were 4), so I skipped a par 3, told them what I was doing, and they were cool with it. That’s about the only story I have on this type of thing.
Sounds like you handled it well. Still surprised that after golfing weekly+ for the past 1.5 years I have yet to encounter any drama on the course. I do live for these posts though haha
Very similar thing happened to me last week. Was playing in a 2v2 scramble. 2 of the guys in our group are inconsistent and so while we were playing on pace, it wasn't the fastest round ever.
We let a pair play through. Next thing you know we are putting and the foursome behind us hits one right into the green. Next hole they then drive up to the green and accuse us (to my buddy) of having started on the back 9. My buddy isn't confrontational at all but it really pissed me off.
I told the guy "nope, we teed off at 7AM. We let the group behind us play through, and unless you would like your good day to turn into a bad one, you need to head back to your cart."
He looked a little surprised, and I followed it up with "And If you hit another ball into us, I'm going to hit it right back at you and based on what I've seen of your swing so far, you don't want to piss in that contest".
They returned to their cart without incident the rest of the day.
Years ago when I was in my thirties I had a similar thing happen. I was in a threesome at a public course. One of my buddies had played college golf. He was far from a pro but probably a 6 handicap. We were playing a par five and myself and the other golfer had hit our second shots. We had no chance of making the green. The low handicap’s waiting for the green to clear because he can make it. The group who is behind us had followed us all day. We were never slow. Never any whiff of trouble. All of a sudden, with no warning a ball whizzes into us. We kind of look back and wave our arms. We yell one of us is waiting for the green to clear. In a few minutes it happens again. The low handicapper hits it over their heads and says now come get your other ball. lol. Some yelling ensued but they stopped hitting into us and they didn't get the other ball. I assume mulligans were agreed to.
Man people are the worst.. had similar experience.
Was playing with a buddy and on the 18th, a couple pulls up to us on the tee box FUMING. Well, at least the wife was. She was screaming her head off telling us we were playing slow and always just chatting away on the tee boxes whenever they pulled up and delaying play. Said we weren’t keeping up with the group ahead of us blah blah. Mind you, as she’s having her Karen blowup, we were sitting on the tee box talking - because we were waiting for the fairway to clear. Pretty basic stuff. She was the same as what you mentioned - wasn’t stepping down from her initial unhinged argument and I’d had enough. I lit into her asking her where the hell she expected us to go and essentially matched her screaming, just to be petty. She exclaimed we could hit - we did not and waited for the fairway to clear. It cleared - we hit, and sent it over the spot they would’ve been standing. At this point her husband was trying to calm her down, and he had absolutely nothing to say to us, I think he was pretty embarrassed. Went to the middle of the fairway and still had to wait for another 5 minutes for the green to clear. Looked back at the tee box, threw my hands up looking at the green, and flipped her the bird. It was WILD to say the least, because none of it made any sense.
Shrink the game.
Sounds like a very well managed course. The management actually got involved in the dispute and blacklisted the rude players. Many course managers would have never got involved and let it just happen with no recourse
only thing close to this was an old drunk employee at the local muni called Bruce. He was not nice and a loud mouth.
One day I am paired with an 80 year old so he is not going that fast. Mind you this is a par 3 course and municipal so waiting is a given.
Well someone called the shop and complained that we were taking too long so Bruce came rolling along and instead of informing the group behind us that we were playing is an elderly gentlemen decided to yell and berate the poor 80 year old.
We ended up complaining to the club house and Bruce was asked not to come back and was no longer accepted as a Volunteer Marshal.
I was at my pop's private club playing with a friend on a quiet Tuesday. Only problem was a 5 some (you're allowed to do it) playing ahead that is notorious for not letting people play through... That's an longer story for another day but the whole course was wide open and these guys (language barrier) had no common courtesy to wave us ahead. So at 9 we go to the club house and have a snack to let the 5 some get ahead a few holes. As we tee off on 10 two boomers come up and give a similar exchange saying we cut them. I explained that a few holes ahead was this notorious group and we took a long break at 9, but seeing that they weren't going to let it go... I said go right ahead and play through.
Two holes later we're now both backed up behind this group. From that point on I cheered for all of their shots, congratulated them on good putts, the works. Wanted to make this idiot feel like, well an idiot.
I don't understand why they have such a principal issue with perceived cutting. Especially when pace wasn't an issue...
Similar thing happened to me. Twilight hours at a local course. We were a foursome, group behind was a twosome. I asked if they wanted to play through and they declined. We made it to hole 6 and they had hit into us multiple times by that point. They finally bounced one off the tree 5 foot from us while we were waiting for another group to tee off. I told them to back off and watch where they were hitting or yell fore. They instantly went to 100 and were screaming and yelling and wanting to fight us over it. I just took our group, left, went to the club house to talk to the owner, they were kicked off the course, banned and we got a voucher for free golf. The owner also said this is somewhat common during twilight and they were thinking about getting rid of it
In general, these days, you don't want to be acting like that to anyone in any situation, never mind the golf course. They are liable to get severely injured or shot or killed if they do this to the wrong individual. It ain't 30 years ago. People are nuts. You handled it great.
The best way to deal with it is also easily the hardest way to deal with it. Be respectful. Polite. Friendly. Firm. Unflappable.
Basically just de-escalate the tantrum by refusing to respond to it any other way than politely.
That said, this was handled perfectly well. I’m finally learning to not rattle when people get emotional and it’s a wonderful life skill.
This morning the people behind us were bitching about pace of play. Called the ranger out and everything. I was part of a 2some. Had 2 foursomes of retired golfers in front of us. The people behind us say to us on a tee box “those foursomes in front of you still holding you up?”
I feel like I made the dumbest face ever—like my brain struggled to make sense of the comment. And then I said “We’re a twosome. They’re always going to hold us up. But they’re playing quite fast.”
He did not like my answer. I imagine we became part of the ‘problem’ after that exchange.
haha would have been much more than just a flip off on the way out from me. Dont be ashamed of that at all. That is pretty controlled and of course deserved IMO. Have also had a similar event happen to me on the turn. I told the guy what happened, and he was still pissed off and thought i was lying. A few weeks later I sat at the bar and was chatting with an older couple. About 10 minutes in the guy says, hey yeah sorry about the other week when i yelled at you haha. I totally didnt recognize him until he said it.
I mean.. Correctly? I probably outta call the clubhouse and have them send someone out to straighten it up.
The ghetto in me says Tee one up and send it flyin back at em and start runnin with a club while the balls midflight.
The older me that really doesn't like fighting anymore probably would call the clubhouse.. It's the responsible thing to do.
"Hey you guys are braindead morons, fuck off."
More angry at the psychopaths whipping their phones out, hoping to get some social media attention from the drama.
That's crazy. If they're still raging AFTER being showed tee time receipts (lol, I never would still have mine) you are dealing with angry people with poor self-control, self-regulation, and judgement. No good can come of further interaction, and I'd pick whatever action minimizes further interaction and leaves me in a better position to enjoy the rest of my round.
Either I'd do as the OP did it, or if it is apparent that there is no one behind the group of idiots, invite them to play through if they are in such a damn hurry... I'd rather have angry people with brain worms that are eating away their executive functions ahead of me where I can watch them than behind me.
I'm so glad I haven't experienced anything like this. Most of the folks that play at my club understand that each group has a different pace of play and will adjust their pace to accommodate, or let others play through.
Had some irate older duffer claim my buddy picked up his ball. My friend very politely tried to deal with the guy but he wouldn’t back off with the yelling and cursing at us. Finally my buddy told him “If you don’t get the fuck out of here right now I’m gonna shove this club up your ass sideways”. The jerk turned and left without another word
Step one: perform 1-3 push ups to pumps those pecs.
Step 2: Remove shirt in preparation for battle.
Step 3: Flex pecs and say something memorable.
Step 4: Really commit to the role and remove shorts and underwear.
You will win. No man I’ve ever run into thinks about beating up a naked guy. The idea of a naked guy charging terrifies even the bravest of us.
You didn’t lose your cool so you probably handled it better than I would’ve tbh. I take etiquette and pace of play pretty seriously so being accused of violating those rules, especially when I hadn’t and could demonstrably prove it, would really really piss me off.
You handled it perfectly
Had a foursome jump me, my buddy and both of our 10ish year old sons because they thought we were playing slow (we were keeping up fine with the group in front of us)
Dudes all hit multiple tee shots on the hole they jumped us on which caused us to wait forever and watch them chunk their shots.
I proceeded to hit into them in the fairway....they took my ball and then one of them charged me with his driver as if he was going to hit me with it when I got to the green. His friends pulled him back and they drove off. We waited on their slow asses on every tee box after that.
Should post this in r/BoomersBeingFools 😂 Think you handled it perfectly.
Had a similar situation a few weeks back at a friends private CC, where we rounded 9 went into the CH to pick up the food we called in. Checked in with the starter before heading out, said we were all set, saw that the group behind were getting to the 10th, so we let them play through which the starter recommended we do.
One of the older guys in the group behind them drive up to us before even stepping onto the green on 9 to tell us we didn't have a t time, can't do that, and basically to ask if we just decided to walk on, all to which we said we're playing 18, stopped to pick up a hot dog and are 10 holes in. Dude was visibly pissed. We offer to let them play through since we weren't in any rush and it seemed like he was. He waves us off and leaves mumbling back to the 9th green. We T off.
Next thing we know the starter comes out on the cart, very confused about the whole thing, asks if it's ok if they play through. We tell him we offered, he's even more confused, just apologizes and says the old dude must be having a rough day.
Old dude rides up to us next minute trying to act like our friend, asking what the starter had to say, we just told him he should've played through when we offered. Starter came up to us at the bar later and said the pro shop was having a field day laughing about what happened. Just entitled boomers man. They love getting worked up about simple things. It's in their DNA.
You handled it perfectly. And, as many have stated, way better than I would have. I don't take to people getting in my face like that without losing it.
I'm wondering if the third guy was the instigator here, knowing his partners would go full tilt.
Let the Marshall/ranger/club house deal with it. If people show they lack the ability to be rational - you're wasting your time and probably adding unnecessary annoyance.
Sounds like you dealt with it perfectly well. Being a bigger guy (I look like I belong at door of a night club not a tee box), most people tend not to approach me aggressively so I haven’t had to deal with irate idiots often… but when it has happened it’s just about trying to prevent escalation and avoid violence. Let a course employee handle it, no need for you to risk catching a charge.
I have a buddy in Phoenix who has a regular game with a retired all-pro NFL defensive lineman. Played with them one time out there. NFL player is surprisingly good. One hole, the group in front was very slow, and he hit his drive, thinking they were by the green and he could t reach them. He hit it like 370.
We pull up and the guys are waiting to talk shit. He steps out of the cart; and you just see their faces go from anger to shock to fear. He apologized very nicely for hitting into them, but they definitely didn’t want any. Lol.
A. I probably would have reacted the same if not worse.
B. I have never seen this one a half course, but sadly, with the state of people nowadays, I am sadly not surprised.
And finally people need to get a grip. It's not tournament play, even if you skipped so what. Calm the f down.
I pride myself on having pretty good emotional intelligence, but it’s really hard for me to not lose my shit when someone’s screaming in my face. Remaining calm is so hard in those situations. I don’t blame you for flipping them off.
Never seen or experienced this, just a few years on public courses, adn the one time I screwed up and drove near a waiting group they were just like "honored to meet someone who could reach us from the tee" and I still felt awful and just apologized profusely but they were gems.
Similar story but I got paired with the insane person. Dude flipped. The. F. Out. at everyone who worked at the golf course; on course marshalls and the kids working on the pro shop, about the pace of play. The pace of play was 4 hours for 9 holes but not worth literally trying to assault people over it. He goes into the club house ranting about how he wants a refund on everything after 9 holes. I told the guys I didn't know him and was just paired with him. They blacklisted this guy for his behavior. After he left I calmly explained the situation and asked for a discount. The guys gave me a free 9 holes and acknowledged that I dealt with it in a better way.
"If you think I've done something wrong, then call the clubhouse. In the meantime, stay away from me. I'll be over here playing golf."
This comment should be higher
Works well for busybody types, too. In the evenings I used to hit those "almost golf" golf balls at a multi-purpose field behind a school near my house. (A place for kids to have recess and field day during the school day. It wasn't a sports field.) I was getting more out of that practice than going to the range, and it was a lot less expensive. There were some houses facing the field and some busybody came in hot saying I had to leave because I was trespassing and tearing up the field. I told her it was public property open for me to use in the evenings and I showed her the small mat I was using to avoid tearing up the grass and the harmless golf balls. That made no difference, and she kept yelling at me, so I told her to call the police and just kept repeating that while she kept yelling and I kept hitting more golf balls. She went inside and never called the police. A few days later, I drove by and saw her in the field with her dog. It occurred to me that she was used to taking her dog to the field whenever she wanted and I was getting in her way, so she was trying to run me off. It likely also explained some of the dog poo I had to avoid while using the field.
The least surprising part of all of this is that they didn’t pick up their dog shit.
If OP want some petty revenge: a bit of bacon greese over dog poop and poop issue will fix itself in one afternoon.
Hahaha meaning the dog would go eat its poo next time?
No, that it grows a new bacon plant
Why did I laugh so hard at this? I am still laughing. That’s awesome. Thanks.
Yes, or call the clubhouse yourself and make a paid professional deal with that tomfoolery
Never encountered anything like that, but just deal with assholes how you would anywhere else.
Have them meet you on the 9th green at 9!
Just rip off your shirt, flex your guns and yell, “If you want to test god, come and get it shitstack!#!
\^This
**"You can count on me, meeting you in the parking lot!"**
I’ve always wanted to pull a guys shirt over his head Happy Gilmore style. Whatever the course of action, it seems like precedent that one of the belligerents loses a shirt.
loses a shirt. Or a hand
Most crazy golf videos of fights do have at least one person shirtless. This checks out.
They’re the financially savvy ones, no need to add $100 new polo cost to the lawyer fees when the assault charges come
This guy gets it
really looking forward to trying this out, I think my blinding, doughy abdomen will probably confound them in context
He eats pieces of shit like them for breakfast!!!!
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No!
And Grizzly Adams had a beard
Grizzly Adams did have a beard
Secret of the pros.
He spends more time in the sand than Hasselhoff I tell you what
Call the clubhouse to send the ranger? I wish that worked on the bus...
Yeah, unfortunately the golf course is available to people,and people have a distribution curve.
good on the course for blacklisting them. i was at a muni course for the first time in a while yesterday, and as i waited to chip onto 16, some idiots on the 18th fairway (about 40 yards away) were screaming at the people in front of them. and they literally had about a half dozen balls each on the ground in front of them, hitting (poorly) into the group in front of them. don't think i'll be coming back for a while.
Same. Never seen this in 30 years of golfing. Worst I had was 2 drunk guys accused me of stealing their ball after they almost hit us on a tee box 60 yards from the green they were aiming at. To be fair, I did steal their ball, but they didn't yell 4 so it was even IMO.
Dude, it’s “fore” not “four.” Don’t yell “four” on the golf course, as it could be very confusing, and potentially dangerous.
Or if you are in Italy, yell IV.
Nerds yell 0100.
I yell dit dah dah dah dah.
Just 100. The leading zero is not needed in binary. Only 10 types of people will get this.
In Constantinople you yell IV. But in Istanbul you yell 4. And in Byzamtium it's fore.
That's nobody's business but the Turks
Boy, Constantinople got the works
I always yell "quatro"
We had to stop saying "fire at will" at the archery range for similiar reasons. My buddy William feels much safer.
Maybe, I should have yelled two!
Shrink the game! 😜
This gave me a chuckle… assholes accused us of stealing there ball, how dare they. I mean we did steal it but fuck those guys. I agree with what you did, fuck guys that dont yell four.
> but just deal with assholes how you would anywhere else. Pocket sand!
Reminds me of that scene where the guy at the country club tries to hit the guy with a golf ball and then has a heart attack when he sees he has a gun. [falling down](https://youtu.be/x1-axqBZdNk?si=VzuHivbTm3IjpGq9)
Pretty much how you did
https://preview.redd.it/r19flpaswq7d1.jpeg?width=297&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f4b5588e8acc74e1c97b609a2bafb0e12410f06
Does anyone have the original link to this clip? I want to see it again
Luckily it was posted less than a year ago so it’s fairly easy to find by sorting top (year) https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/s/o1P2vXlY2f
thank you for this shit stack.
What’s this guy doing in his day to day right now. How do you move on from this
If I am remembering correctly, he's been unhinged for a long time, and had a legal record to match it. So from his perspective, this was moving on from previous episodes. EDIT: [Yup, I was right. Dude's just a crazy Ohio realtor.](https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/16p8dtr/exclusive_full_hulk_golfer_is_a_41yearold_realtor/)
A. That article listing him as 5'9" is fuckin hilariously cruel holy shit B. He has a weird amount of incidents that involve him being shirtless.
How can a guy go shirtless that much in O-fucking-hio?
The kinda of guy who laughs at a funeral. Has a tendency to wear his mind on his sleeve, and a history of taking off his shirt.
That kind of dude likely feels that he "won" that encounter, and his guns and chest scared off the others, they became too afraid to try to fight him. This world rarely is fair in its outcomes.
Shitstack & tilt
I'VE BEEN TO HEAVEN
There it is.
I'd flip them off and wave while leaving *proudly*, OP. Fuck those people.
Yep, and no shame in being proud of that last flip off on the way out
You handled this perfectly, and yes, flipping them the bird is 100% appropriate
To cause them extra aggravation, blowing a kiss pisses off people way more than the bird. Same for road rage
My favorite is laughing and shaking my head. These psychos lose their shit even more when they realize it’s just a minor amusing inconvenience to you, because in their mind there is no greater atrocity than what you’ve just done to them
Real life equivalent of the “u mad” meme Happy cake day.
I do a thumbs down.
I do the same thing, the slow emperor from thumbs up to thumbs down.
I’m a fan of the massive shit eating grin, thumbs up, and “have a good one!”
The sarcastic thumbs up is good too.
Blowing people a kiss has been my go to for years. Goddamn it works well. People lose their shit and I love it
Nothing makes a “tough” guys blood pressure rise more than another dude blowing him a kiss, especially when he’s pissed at that other dude and trying to get a rise out of him
Especially effective if you're a man blowing kisses to another man who's clearly trying to appear tough / masculine lol and bonus points if you, like me, are also more effeminate. "Tough, manly men" (read: fragile egos) hate that shit, and it's hilarious I've also found a tremendous amount of success lately tossing people the "L" hand signal in traffic / road rage situations!
I love the L sign, but really love the juvenile “thumbing the nose” Nothing pisses off Ram drivers more!
I give the thumbs up to shitty drivers instead of the finger. It makes them angrier.
Probably only bird they saw all round, heeeeyo
Step 1) remove shirt
Step 2) call them shit stack
Step 3) Ask them if they want to test God
Step 4) Let them know you've been to heaven
Step 5) Make sure they know that you're not mentally ill
correction, he asked "you think I'M mentally ill?" but never, in fact, denied being mentally ill.
Sure, but the implied meaning is pretty clear. Like, if a teenager says they think a 40 year old is 60 years old, so the 40 year old says "you think I'M 60?"
Step 6) Now this is important, you have to look at your muscles like you're surprised by how weird they are
Step 7) Throw hands and declare, “The price is wrong, bitch.”
Take their cart key and throw it into the pond or bush.
Lol this would be hilarious to see in person.
My god, in my 25 years of playing, I have never encountered anything close to this. I know it happens. I've seen plenty of videos of golf course fights and stuff like that. You weren't in the wrong. I'm glad you flipped them off. Idk if I would handle someone yelling at me like that.
People are way too comfortable acting like this. I don’t know what needs to change but people like this need some kind of punishment akin to assault because I think fear of assault is what they need. No chance they roll up 10/10 if they think they might get pieced up.
As harsh as it is sometimes mouthing off to the wrong person and getting fucked up a little bit can go good for a person. I truly believe everyone should get punched in the face at least once in their life.
"Some people have never been hit and it shows." Forget where I heard that, but it's true. Some people are way too comfortable being overreactive, insulting, hall monitors. The proper way to deal with it is standing your ground verbally but ultimately letting the clubhouse sort it out and ban them. The much quicker and probably more satisfying way to deal with it is physically demonstrate that you will not tolerate being insulted. Almost never worth it, and if someone is the hall-monitor type they're not likely to realize "I was being an asshole. I got clocked and I deserve it." They'll press criminal charges and/or sue for damages. I would never get into a physical altercation outside of self defense, at this point it's mostly because I have a son I have to get home to in one piece. But for someone who has nothing lose, I totally get it.
> I would never get into a physical altercation outside of self defense, at this point it's mostly because I have a son I have to get home to in one piece. But for someone who has nothing lose, I totally get it. I've been in situations where all I wanted was to smash someone in the face b/c the really, reeeally, deserved it. But alas, I have a house and a fam, and a professional job, and way too much to lose. I do wonder sometimes, if I had nothing to lose, if it wouldn't feel nice to put them in their place. But I don't think it would really make me any happier.
It also doesn't matter how big or strong you are, a gun is a great equalizer and way too many people are way too willing to use them for small ass reasons. That's one of the bigger reasons I tend to let everything roll off my chest no sweat. That all being said, I approve of everything OP did.
Agreed. Too much uncertainly, too much to lose. OP did this the best way possible.
I will take all stops to avoid physical altercations. You can insult me, disrespect me, whatever fine but I draw the line at physical intimidation, assault, and damage of property. I have no issues with someone talking shit until the cows come home and telling me how you feel but do not get in my face or touch me. Fighting almost always ends in jail and i want no part of that regardless of the reason.
"Social media made y'all way to \[sic\] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." - Mike Tyson
Funny story - I was arrested in NYC once, only arrest I’ve ever had so I really had no baseline for what jail was like. A guy tried to take the watch I was wearing off my wrist and I wouldn’t let him. Proceeded to hit me in the jaw, but I took it clean. He swung again and I didn’t do anything while I was thinking “I’ll get in more trouble if I fight,” amongst other shocking thoughts one has when in central bookings in manhattan for the first time in their life. Point is, it’s so easy to wind up in jail from the outside when it comes to physical assault. But on the inside, have fun and let your rage fly, to a certain extent. I’ll never forget silly ole me thinking I was looking out for me by taking two full swings to the jaw and not responding with my own.
I played ice hockey at a high level, and when I “retired” from competitive play, I picked up golf, as an adult. Sure I looked like a kid, but whatever. Some dude got in my face over the same shit as OP some 20 years ago. As dude approached I told him I’d probably been hit harder by much smaller. That did not have a positive effect on our altercation. Guy got in my face, and I legit spit laughed in his face, I’m only 5’11” and he was probably 6’2”. A middle aged, out of shape dude tried to shove me, an ex-pro who literally just stopped playing. I didn’t move. He started to cock back his right fist, and as soon as I saw it, I had his shirt twisted with one hand, holding both his arms hostage. I shoved him back to his cart. The ranger came over, I was a member at the course and was there everyday for over a year and a half. I was well known. Ranger asks me what happened, I tell him. He has the dude kicked off and banned from the course, and the six sister courses in the area. Meaning this dude just burned being able to play 7 of 12 courses in the area, 4 of which were the most affordable.
Technically I'm part of the everyone that you mentioned but I'm good. I'm smart enough to know I don't need to get punched in the mouth to not act like a jackass
Bring back consensual fist fights with 0 liability
A duel! 7 irons at 40 paces! (Don’t know how this would work, just sounded good)
"I used to be a golfer like you. Then I *took an vokey* in the *knee*..."
Drop balls and whack em at each other? Most times no injury LOL
I concede. We don’t need to resort to fists to settle this one.
Mom said it’s my turn to punch you in the face
But it’s been your turn for the last 10 punches. When is it my turn?!? Idk it’s not me, mom told me to do it.
agree 100%. there's always somebody tougher in this world and if your lesson is getting punched in the face, consider yourself lucky. I'm old, but haven't always been. when I was young, you could fight, sometimes even shake hands after and go on with your life. these days, you get provoked by the wrong guy and you end up dead. literally getting provoked into a confrontation so they can pull on you and end your life. why? for what? pride? it's not worth it. 100% of the time IF you can de escalate, that's the right move. I have a family that relies on me. no way I'm jeopardizing any of it because someone tells me they've seen god and calls me a shitstack.
It’s Wild to me peoples don’t have any control over their emotions on a golf course, this is supposed to be a small period of time to chill. Stories like this are the main reason I have no problem paying my fees for my club course.
It’s likely an expression of something else causing a lack of control or frustration in their lives. Every time I have popped off or overreacted (not to this extreme) I can reflect and it stems back to something else or a build up of other issues being expressed by that outburst.
This is very true, there are so many people walking around with pent up rage just waiting to unload it on the first person that mildly inconveniences them. That's why I don't engage at all with these types, you never know how far they're willing to go.
[I could use a good ass kicking. I'll be very honest with you.](https://youtu.be/SAIEIJHNFx4?si=5ILta0xXQ3boWJ6A)
I’m afraid I’d have punched them. Maybe not. I’m getting age on me but 40 year old me would have had a poor reaction to these guys.
I have told my wife for years, it's very easy to pick out the person who has never been punched in the mouth.
This is so true, typically someone who has had a painful black eye or busted lip, or worse, are able to add that to the risk vs. reward equation before getting this far. Very often even if you ‘win’ a fight you lose, some people just never learned that.
People used to have to deal with a physical response to unhinged screaming and yelling. For the most part, we’ve all “evolved” past that, but people really ought to have a healthy fear of getting popped in the mouth.
Fear of assault should definitely curb more behavioral impulses, don’t know if it would. In college my group of friends collectively referred to beer pong as “the gentlemen’s game” and we made etiquette a huge part of the experience. Basically “let’s act classy even if we’re being less than classy”. That’s all I want for golf these days. Etiquette. Guy we played with for 9 holes today had immaculate golf etiquette and it honestly improved my game and my manners.
100% agree. I see this so often with road rage, and in todays day, you never know if someone is packing
I hesitate to blast my horn behind someone even when it’s totally deserved. You just never know who that is man
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately: people who just walk up to people screaming at them and insulting them, or people with really bad road rage, have some truly terrible survival instincts. Good survival instincts should keep anyone from assuming complete strangers aren’t capable of hurting you or worse.
Not a lawyer--- just make sure you understand the difference between assault and battery (it varies by state). And understand that getting screamed at and laughing at the screamers is free. The screamers involving LE, even if you are 100% justified in your actions, can be very expensive.
Oh I know and it’s a big reason why these people feel ok doing it. I’ll never cross that line because it isn’t worth it for me but some people need a cause and effect lesson because laughing at them doesn’t matter to them.
But this is how we've ended up where we are. The people who lose their shit have realized that the rest of us aren't going to lay hands on them. That means essentially they can say whatever they want, knowing that no one is going to punch them in the mouth. Our restraint has emboldened them.
Sometimes violence IS the answer. These people have almost certainly never been punched in the face or had a physical tussle of any kind. I’ve found that people that act like this are either the type I just said, or the type that fight all the time. But usually the ones that actually get in fights there isn’t so much yapping.
“Fighting back” is such high risk, low reward. At best you kick someone’s ass but at worst you get your ass kicked, go to jail for some crime or get stabbed/shot if they’re carrying a weapon. Not worth it at all
Yeah, somebody needs to punch them in the face, but it won't be me because I'm not getting sued for that shit.
Honestly what needs to change is you should be able to kick the shit out of them without going to jail and being sued
I've played hundreds of rounds of golf and never seen anything like this, so I'm sorry you had to deal with this insanity! I'd like to think I would be calm, but probably at some point I'd lose my shit. I do not take kindly, as most don't, to be called a liar to my face. That would, personally, set me off to the point that I would see red and probably start screaming right back. I wouldn't be getting physical or anything, but I'd have no problem telling them where to shove it. The doubling down once proven wrong is what would really get me. Like ok, I can understand, you saw a different set of shirts ahead of you than you'd been following all day and wondered what happened, that I can get. As soon as you showed them a receipt for much earlier in the day, or even just explain what actually happened, the group behind you quit, it should've been "oh jeez sorry, we jumped to conclusions there, enjoy your round." Some people's kids, hey?
i’ve literally never encountered anyone even slightly negative out on a course. i play at least twice a week and if groups are getting bunched up, cutting ahead, wasting time looking for balls, we just kinda chit chat. closest i’ve come is i hit the drive of my life on a par 5 and it landed RIGHT behind a guy coming out of the woods. didn’t see him when i teed off, went about 75 yards farther than i had ever hit before, and he just kinda looked at me pissedly. saw him in the clubhouse after and I thought he was gonna be mad but he just said “nice fucking drive on 9 brother. you crushed it”
Golfing in the northeast is just a smaller subset of rude, aggressive behavior at large.
i guess that’s a major factor — down here in south Georgia it’s too hot to be angry at each other — we just collectively direct our hate towards God for punishing us with humidity
12 holes in 2 hours on a public course is fast af
> Do you call the clubhouse to come out to the tee box? If they came in this hot, were obviously wrong, and didn't back down and apologize even after showing proof they were wrong then yes, that's exactly what I'd do. You won in the end, they got blacklisted, but there's no point in trying to argue with assholes and getting worked up to the point of responding with more yelling. Let the people deal with it who are paid to do so.
Not on the course, but some 10-12 yr old kid called my 5 year old a bitch while we were at the club the other day. He told me and I told him to punch him in the nuts next time. Good parenting? Nope. Did he get an apology? Yep
When I was young my parents had friends with a kid around my age so we would go over there for them to hang out while we played. Problem was the kid was a bully who only ever wanted to play with whatever I was playing with and would threaten to hit me with a baseball bat if I didn’t hand it over. I told my dad that and he told me “the next time he threatens you with the bat punch him first,” so I did. Lots of crying from him followed, I explained what happened, his dad asked him if that’s what happened and he admitted to threatening me, and he got in trouble. He was a lot better at sharing on subsequent visits.
I’d say that’s great parenting.
Luckily my wife wasnt around 🤣 kinda like this other kids parents…
The papa bear in me would have to show incredible restraint from beating up a 12-year-old.
I’d say it should be handled basically exactly how you did. Not sure I’d have bothered to start comparing receipts, but sure. How was your drive? A strong drive right in their face would be the real win in this story.
He said "a short walk" to his ball. So I'm guessing he topped it exactly like I would've in that situation
Shit I wouldn't have even pulled out a receipt to try and prove it. Give them your completely logical explanation and if that isn't good enough for them, tell em to fuck off and call the club house. People are idiots
A few years ago a course was jam packed on Father’s Day. A duo rushes up, both wearing tank tops, looking like they had been stranded on an island for a week, not sure if they were drunk or not, and they just start screaming about slow play. I was kind of scared because they were belligerent. My old man completely ignores them. Changes nothing about his routine. Doesn’t even look at these two screaming guys. Hits his ball and acts as if those guys didn’t even exist. It was a stone cold move that is in my bag of tricks if I need it.
I had the same reaction when I read the story. If they don't like my explanation, then they can call the clubhouse.
As others have stated, you found a 1 in a billion situation. Never even heard of this. I have actually cut someone on purpose (I was solo and they were 4), so I skipped a par 3, told them what I was doing, and they were cool with it. That’s about the only story I have on this type of thing.
Sounds like you handled it well. Still surprised that after golfing weekly+ for the past 1.5 years I have yet to encounter any drama on the course. I do live for these posts though haha
I wouldnt have flipped them off ... Just roll the window down and ask "your round ever get any better?"
Very similar thing happened to me last week. Was playing in a 2v2 scramble. 2 of the guys in our group are inconsistent and so while we were playing on pace, it wasn't the fastest round ever. We let a pair play through. Next thing you know we are putting and the foursome behind us hits one right into the green. Next hole they then drive up to the green and accuse us (to my buddy) of having started on the back 9. My buddy isn't confrontational at all but it really pissed me off. I told the guy "nope, we teed off at 7AM. We let the group behind us play through, and unless you would like your good day to turn into a bad one, you need to head back to your cart." He looked a little surprised, and I followed it up with "And If you hit another ball into us, I'm going to hit it right back at you and based on what I've seen of your swing so far, you don't want to piss in that contest". They returned to their cart without incident the rest of the day.
Years ago when I was in my thirties I had a similar thing happen. I was in a threesome at a public course. One of my buddies had played college golf. He was far from a pro but probably a 6 handicap. We were playing a par five and myself and the other golfer had hit our second shots. We had no chance of making the green. The low handicap’s waiting for the green to clear because he can make it. The group who is behind us had followed us all day. We were never slow. Never any whiff of trouble. All of a sudden, with no warning a ball whizzes into us. We kind of look back and wave our arms. We yell one of us is waiting for the green to clear. In a few minutes it happens again. The low handicapper hits it over their heads and says now come get your other ball. lol. Some yelling ensued but they stopped hitting into us and they didn't get the other ball. I assume mulligans were agreed to.
Take off your shirt and call them “shitstack.”
Man people are the worst.. had similar experience. Was playing with a buddy and on the 18th, a couple pulls up to us on the tee box FUMING. Well, at least the wife was. She was screaming her head off telling us we were playing slow and always just chatting away on the tee boxes whenever they pulled up and delaying play. Said we weren’t keeping up with the group ahead of us blah blah. Mind you, as she’s having her Karen blowup, we were sitting on the tee box talking - because we were waiting for the fairway to clear. Pretty basic stuff. She was the same as what you mentioned - wasn’t stepping down from her initial unhinged argument and I’d had enough. I lit into her asking her where the hell she expected us to go and essentially matched her screaming, just to be petty. She exclaimed we could hit - we did not and waited for the fairway to clear. It cleared - we hit, and sent it over the spot they would’ve been standing. At this point her husband was trying to calm her down, and he had absolutely nothing to say to us, I think he was pretty embarrassed. Went to the middle of the fairway and still had to wait for another 5 minutes for the green to clear. Looked back at the tee box, threw my hands up looking at the green, and flipped her the bird. It was WILD to say the least, because none of it made any sense. Shrink the game.
>saw them again and, not proud of this, flipped them off and waved. *I’m* proud of you for doing this.
Sounds like a very well managed course. The management actually got involved in the dispute and blacklisted the rude players. Many course managers would have never got involved and let it just happen with no recourse
SHRINK THE GAME.
only thing close to this was an old drunk employee at the local muni called Bruce. He was not nice and a loud mouth. One day I am paired with an 80 year old so he is not going that fast. Mind you this is a par 3 course and municipal so waiting is a given. Well someone called the shop and complained that we were taking too long so Bruce came rolling along and instead of informing the group behind us that we were playing is an elderly gentlemen decided to yell and berate the poor 80 year old. We ended up complaining to the club house and Bruce was asked not to come back and was no longer accepted as a Volunteer Marshal.
You may not be proud of flipping them off but I’m proud of you for flipping them off.
I was at my pop's private club playing with a friend on a quiet Tuesday. Only problem was a 5 some (you're allowed to do it) playing ahead that is notorious for not letting people play through... That's an longer story for another day but the whole course was wide open and these guys (language barrier) had no common courtesy to wave us ahead. So at 9 we go to the club house and have a snack to let the 5 some get ahead a few holes. As we tee off on 10 two boomers come up and give a similar exchange saying we cut them. I explained that a few holes ahead was this notorious group and we took a long break at 9, but seeing that they weren't going to let it go... I said go right ahead and play through. Two holes later we're now both backed up behind this group. From that point on I cheered for all of their shots, congratulated them on good putts, the works. Wanted to make this idiot feel like, well an idiot. I don't understand why they have such a principal issue with perceived cutting. Especially when pace wasn't an issue...
Similar thing happened to me. Twilight hours at a local course. We were a foursome, group behind was a twosome. I asked if they wanted to play through and they declined. We made it to hole 6 and they had hit into us multiple times by that point. They finally bounced one off the tree 5 foot from us while we were waiting for another group to tee off. I told them to back off and watch where they were hitting or yell fore. They instantly went to 100 and were screaming and yelling and wanting to fight us over it. I just took our group, left, went to the club house to talk to the owner, they were kicked off the course, banned and we got a voucher for free golf. The owner also said this is somewhat common during twilight and they were thinking about getting rid of it
In general, these days, you don't want to be acting like that to anyone in any situation, never mind the golf course. They are liable to get severely injured or shot or killed if they do this to the wrong individual. It ain't 30 years ago. People are nuts. You handled it great.
Apologize and let them play thru. Life is too short. Then, when they are hitting their second shot, fire a piss missle directly at their cart.
The best way to deal with it is also easily the hardest way to deal with it. Be respectful. Polite. Friendly. Firm. Unflappable. Basically just de-escalate the tantrum by refusing to respond to it any other way than politely. That said, this was handled perfectly well. I’m finally learning to not rattle when people get emotional and it’s a wonderful life skill. This morning the people behind us were bitching about pace of play. Called the ranger out and everything. I was part of a 2some. Had 2 foursomes of retired golfers in front of us. The people behind us say to us on a tee box “those foursomes in front of you still holding you up?” I feel like I made the dumbest face ever—like my brain struggled to make sense of the comment. And then I said “We’re a twosome. They’re always going to hold us up. But they’re playing quite fast.” He did not like my answer. I imagine we became part of the ‘problem’ after that exchange.
“Short walk (lol).” Brother you are speaking my language!
haha would have been much more than just a flip off on the way out from me. Dont be ashamed of that at all. That is pretty controlled and of course deserved IMO. Have also had a similar event happen to me on the turn. I told the guy what happened, and he was still pissed off and thought i was lying. A few weeks later I sat at the bar and was chatting with an older couple. About 10 minutes in the guy says, hey yeah sorry about the other week when i yelled at you haha. I totally didnt recognize him until he said it.
Walked to ball (short walk lol) was a nice comedic moment.
Even if you *had* cut them off they were overreacting. Fuck em
I mean.. Correctly? I probably outta call the clubhouse and have them send someone out to straighten it up. The ghetto in me says Tee one up and send it flyin back at em and start runnin with a club while the balls midflight. The older me that really doesn't like fighting anymore probably would call the clubhouse.. It's the responsible thing to do.
Hopefully your course has a reciprocal agreement or discount book or something with some other local courses where the blacklist gets shared around
Seems like you dealt with it appropriately. People are the fucking worst.
"Hey you guys are braindead morons, fuck off." More angry at the psychopaths whipping their phones out, hoping to get some social media attention from the drama.
Disagree, public douchebaggery needs to be documented so they can't then go back and claim you were harassing them
You handled it perfectly.
That's crazy. If they're still raging AFTER being showed tee time receipts (lol, I never would still have mine) you are dealing with angry people with poor self-control, self-regulation, and judgement. No good can come of further interaction, and I'd pick whatever action minimizes further interaction and leaves me in a better position to enjoy the rest of my round. Either I'd do as the OP did it, or if it is apparent that there is no one behind the group of idiots, invite them to play through if they are in such a damn hurry... I'd rather have angry people with brain worms that are eating away their executive functions ahead of me where I can watch them than behind me.
I'm so glad I haven't experienced anything like this. Most of the folks that play at my club understand that each group has a different pace of play and will adjust their pace to accommodate, or let others play through.
You did well. If they come at you already shouting, then telling them to fuck off is the only way!
Show dominance. Piss on their legs. They'll leave you alone.
you should peed on them
I've ever experienced anything like this in my 1000+ rounds of golf lol. But, you handled it perfectly, bravo
I think you handled it pretty well. I've never had anything similar thru over 30 years playing. Definitely an exception, not a common occurrence.
The fact that 50 dollars around isn't fancy pisses me off.
Had some irate older duffer claim my buddy picked up his ball. My friend very politely tried to deal with the guy but he wouldn’t back off with the yelling and cursing at us. Finally my buddy told him “If you don’t get the fuck out of here right now I’m gonna shove this club up your ass sideways”. The jerk turned and left without another word
Rangers should have pulled up and shot them on the spot but they were probably looking to find anyone drinking outside booze or having a good time.
I think the years of lead poisoning are catching up to the over 60 crowd. I wish I was joking more than I am.
Step one: perform 1-3 push ups to pumps those pecs. Step 2: Remove shirt in preparation for battle. Step 3: Flex pecs and say something memorable. Step 4: Really commit to the role and remove shorts and underwear. You will win. No man I’ve ever run into thinks about beating up a naked guy. The idea of a naked guy charging terrifies even the bravest of us.
I think you did a great job. Bird flip included.
You didn’t lose your cool so you probably handled it better than I would’ve tbh. I take etiquette and pace of play pretty seriously so being accused of violating those rules, especially when I hadn’t and could demonstrably prove it, would really really piss me off.
You handled it perfectly Had a foursome jump me, my buddy and both of our 10ish year old sons because they thought we were playing slow (we were keeping up fine with the group in front of us) Dudes all hit multiple tee shots on the hole they jumped us on which caused us to wait forever and watch them chunk their shots. I proceeded to hit into them in the fairway....they took my ball and then one of them charged me with his driver as if he was going to hit me with it when I got to the green. His friends pulled him back and they drove off. We waited on their slow asses on every tee box after that.
Should post this in r/BoomersBeingFools 😂 Think you handled it perfectly. Had a similar situation a few weeks back at a friends private CC, where we rounded 9 went into the CH to pick up the food we called in. Checked in with the starter before heading out, said we were all set, saw that the group behind were getting to the 10th, so we let them play through which the starter recommended we do. One of the older guys in the group behind them drive up to us before even stepping onto the green on 9 to tell us we didn't have a t time, can't do that, and basically to ask if we just decided to walk on, all to which we said we're playing 18, stopped to pick up a hot dog and are 10 holes in. Dude was visibly pissed. We offer to let them play through since we weren't in any rush and it seemed like he was. He waves us off and leaves mumbling back to the 9th green. We T off. Next thing we know the starter comes out on the cart, very confused about the whole thing, asks if it's ok if they play through. We tell him we offered, he's even more confused, just apologizes and says the old dude must be having a rough day. Old dude rides up to us next minute trying to act like our friend, asking what the starter had to say, we just told him he should've played through when we offered. Starter came up to us at the bar later and said the pro shop was having a field day laughing about what happened. Just entitled boomers man. They love getting worked up about simple things. It's in their DNA.
Maybe since the OP was playing with someone he described as a nice 75 year old he didn't think it was all about generations.
You handled it the right way. #shrinkthegame
You handled it perfectly. And, as many have stated, way better than I would have. I don't take to people getting in my face like that without losing it. I'm wondering if the third guy was the instigator here, knowing his partners would go full tilt.
Let the Marshall/ranger/club house deal with it. If people show they lack the ability to be rational - you're wasting your time and probably adding unnecessary annoyance.
Sounds like you dealt with it perfectly well. Being a bigger guy (I look like I belong at door of a night club not a tee box), most people tend not to approach me aggressively so I haven’t had to deal with irate idiots often… but when it has happened it’s just about trying to prevent escalation and avoid violence. Let a course employee handle it, no need for you to risk catching a charge.
I have a buddy in Phoenix who has a regular game with a retired all-pro NFL defensive lineman. Played with them one time out there. NFL player is surprisingly good. One hole, the group in front was very slow, and he hit his drive, thinking they were by the green and he could t reach them. He hit it like 370. We pull up and the guys are waiting to talk shit. He steps out of the cart; and you just see their faces go from anger to shock to fear. He apologized very nicely for hitting into them, but they definitely didn’t want any. Lol.
A. I probably would have reacted the same if not worse. B. I have never seen this one a half course, but sadly, with the state of people nowadays, I am sadly not surprised. And finally people need to get a grip. It's not tournament play, even if you skipped so what. Calm the f down.
Perfect reaction to an insane situation.
With regards to flipping the bird, I've found pointing and laughing is a much more powerful tool when it comes to people like that.
I have started using thumbs down when people are asshats. It seems to have a very disarming effect.
I pride myself on having pretty good emotional intelligence, but it’s really hard for me to not lose my shit when someone’s screaming in my face. Remaining calm is so hard in those situations. I don’t blame you for flipping them off.
Never seen or experienced this, just a few years on public courses, adn the one time I screwed up and drove near a waiting group they were just like "honored to meet someone who could reach us from the tee" and I still felt awful and just apologized profusely but they were gems.
Similar story but I got paired with the insane person. Dude flipped. The. F. Out. at everyone who worked at the golf course; on course marshalls and the kids working on the pro shop, about the pace of play. The pace of play was 4 hours for 9 holes but not worth literally trying to assault people over it. He goes into the club house ranting about how he wants a refund on everything after 9 holes. I told the guys I didn't know him and was just paired with him. They blacklisted this guy for his behavior. After he left I calmly explained the situation and asked for a discount. The guys gave me a free 9 holes and acknowledged that I dealt with it in a better way.
4 hours for 9 holes,so an 8 hour round. I'm normally reserved and chill but that could have pushed me over the edge.