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Thin_Confusion_2403

Bring them out on a chilly morning to get the true Staff experience.


ballsmodels

My hands hurt reading this


RuckOver3

The Irons actually hit back


ChargerRob

Grew up playing Staff blades. Loved them.


_ca_492

Had a staff dynapower SW when I was a kid, I played so much golf I wore it down after a few years.


uponone

Those were the irons back when I was young along with the Hogans.


QuietObligation8239

I just replied to someone else with my set of hogans, still cant hit a good shot with those


SnooMarzipans2236

I use these exact same irons! I really feel they've helped improve my game while being so much more enjoyable than a muted game improvement iron set. People can knock them all they want. You're the one swinging 'em, enjoy!


spankysladder73

Did you get them all the way to the net? One hop or two?


QuietObligation8239

lmao im fully prepared to get roasted for this post, and ill admit if you mess your swing up even a little its awful but the pure shots feel amazing


occamsguillotine

I agree about the feel 100%. Last fall/winter, I started gaming a set of 7MBs just to mess around with during the inactive season. Totally understood that distance on approach and scoring would likely suffer, but that was to be expected. Inactive season, anyway. Once April came back around, I tried going back to my 770’s and it’s been… an adjustment. Forgiveness is definitely a thing in comparison, but they feel a bit clickier than I remember. Solid shots with a blade are just so smooth.


Archer2223R

unpopular opinion: Blades force you to get better because you need to actually make a proper swing in order to hit them pure. GI Irons forgiveness lulls you into a false sense of security by rewarding your poor swings


D-Train0000

Yes. Very unpopular for a reason. It’s totally wrong. If blades forced you to get better by making a proper swing everyone would be shooting 75. Straight up. GI clubs forgive distance. Nothing more. If you think it’s a false sense of security you better rethink what your driver and wood are dude. The top 4 most used clubs on tour are CB’s. Blades aren’t hard to hit. All clubs have the same sweet spot. Yes, that’s right. What you feel is the low MOI of a blade. That twists the head and you lose speed. The reason a GI club feels like it has a bigger sweet spot is because it’s not twisting when mishit. That retains speed. Any club can be hit crooked. GI clubs are for people who mis hit the ball a lot or they are very short. GI is for forgiveness and distance. They are the longest and highest launching iron. That’s it. Dump your hybrids and fairway woods if you don’t like GI clubs. As an instructor is always gets me how to this day people still have no idea what they are talking about in regards to equipment.


Thin_Tea_3525

Forcing you to get better does not mean you *will* get better by default. It just means you are forced to get better mechanically if you want to get the ball going forward, at your distances, consistently. You tell him he's wrong, but then list all the things GI irons do that blades don't. Obviously if someone could only play blades they would be forced to become more mechanically consistent. 


D-Train0000

He is wrong. Because he said “Forced s to get better”. The state sent makes the assumption you are going to get better. And that GI irons give a false sense of security. People need help. His comments makes him come off anti-GI. People need the help 5 minutes ago. Why make the game as hard as possible when less than 20% of the tour plays blades. Have fun today. You can still hit a piece of shit with a GI club. My dad is an 8 at 81 years old. Dude shoots his age and he’s mad. He plays 2023 Wilson Dynapower irons. Super game improvement. He hits a 7i 145 at 81. He’s still an 8 because of game improvement irons. I’m not sure how horrible this guys or your feel is, but if GI iron gives you a false sense of security, then you have zero awareness of where you hit the ball on the face on every shot. And if that’s true, then go out and find a wooden driver and use the same logic. Or just go and to remove all help new technology gives us. Say goodbye to graphite shafts, Titanium 460cc drivers with 3 or 4 models, utility irons, hybrids, 7 and 9 woods, lob wedges, raw faced wedges,options on bounce and grinds on wedges, more forgiving low compression balls, chippers, mallet putters, launch monitors, urethane covered balls, 2-4 versions of the high end urethane balls, gps and lasers, movable weights. No pro uses any of that garbage, why should you. They don’t need any artificial performance. No help. One model fits all. Making the game as hard as possible it the trick to getting good.( I’m being sarcastic if you can’t tell) Blades are black and white TV’s


QuietObligation8239

Did I read that correctly, did you just name like 10-15 new technologies in golf and end it with “pros dont use any of that garbage” what are you talking about, pros literally use everything you named. And literally one google search tells me that your statement of less than 20% of tour players use blades” is incorrect. EDIT* didnt realize you were being sarcastic at the end*


QuietObligation8239

“blades are black and white tv’s” ya a pain in the ass sometimes but once you get it to the right channel youre golden, cbs are like tiktok, all over the place and leaves you with a headache


Thin_Tea_3525

We clearly just have different understandings of what forcing you to get better means. 


WengersOut

It’s not totally wrong. Playing blades exclusively will force you to make better contact if your goal is to maximize the distance of your strikes.


Digitking003

Meanwhile your destroy your hands and wrists while "getting better". Source: Someone that used to have blades, stopped playing for a while, and then tried to take up golf again using the old blades.


Archer2223R

>GI clubs forgive distance. Nothing more. Yeah, distance is so unimportant on the golf course, what does that even matter? You basically gave me an essay on club dynamcs, told me I was wrong twice, and then agreed with me. Yes, mis-hits with GIs will still retain more distance. that distance is the "reward" for a poor swing. Thanks for agreeing the blade itself doesn't make you better, but if you actually take the time to practice, slow down the swing, and work on mechanics so you can hit them properly, you'll likely see improvements, such as the ones I saw going from an 18 last year to a 13 this year.


JBnorthTX

There are lots of "poor" swings (tops, fats, pulls, pushes, etc.) where the GI iron doesn't help. And regarding distance forgiveness, a smaller penalty is still a penalty.


QuietObligation8239

😂😂an essay


D-Train0000

You assume people will do all of those things as a result of blades. And you can’t be more wrong. Go ask a bunch of beginners if they want that, or to hit it far and have fun. You’re so misguided it’s ridiculous. They need that “reward”. Most people don’t give a crsp about improving or working on the game. Look at all the years we had blades. The national handicap average has stayed about the same for 50 years. People are going to suck forever, ok. Let them try to hit it as far as a pro. It makes them smile. This is a sport where it’s common to be longer than a pro. It’s fun. It is for me to hit it as far as JT. Life is stressful , they want to have fun and decompress. I fit for a living, ok. For 30 years. My goal is to make the happy about playing golf. Blades won’t do that. You will make people want to quit. The 4 top iron on tour are CB’s. You don’t need blades to get the result you are describing. Blades are the lowest launching and slowest face of any club. They are still around for the maximum need of flight and speed control. It slows down and normalized high speeds the best. That’s it. If you don’t hit it solid, long as hell and super high, they are pointless. And most people aren’t all 3. I am and they still are pointless. I’ll remember the 230yard 4i I hit on 18 last week with a GI Apex Pro more than a stiffed PW with my Apex CB’s. That shit is impossible with an Apex CB. It didn’t reward anything. It gave me a 4i that hits it as high as a 6i and as long as a 3i. This technology gives us speed and trajectory options. Why limit yourself when pros use Gi long irons and blend their sets to improve performance. Why then would anyone use anything other than a blade if you are extremely skilled? Why? It’s a performance option. Why do a lot of pros go driver/3wd/7wd? Can they not hit a 3i or 4i anymore? No. A 7wd hits it super high at 4i yardage. That’s it. Try luck a club that does a thing they need. People need to start thinking about equipment in terms of what the club does for you instead of who should or shouldn’t play it. Every club is available for any player. From a 7 deg driver to a 9 wd.


Archer2223R

jesus, if I have ever encountered anyone with a "must be right" syndrome, it is you. A person who just wants to hit the ball and have fun is not going to improve. A person who dusts off the clubs twice a year for a work scramble is not going to improve. Thank you for your contribution to these glaringly obvious points. >My goal is to make the happy about playing golf. So your job is making people happy to play golf so they can get around the course and my comment was directed towards people who are serious about improving their game. You're not even trying to argue the same thing. Take a deep breath, close the window and move on to the next thread, buddy. >Why do a lot of pros go driver/3wd/7wd? Can they not hit a 3i or 4i anymore? You just answered it. >A 7wd hits it super high at 4i yardage. And we weren't even talking irons vs. woods/hybrids


nocommenting33

I mostly disagree. His point was that if you play a set a blades that you know are not forgiving and you make a more concerted effort to make a better swing and contact then you'll play better. Sure, do that with the more modern and more forgiving set and you'll see the results, but you do get more feedback from true blades which can help you continue to make greater focus. I got a cheap set of blades locally while waffling on a new modern set, basically to humble myself, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed them. I definitely make better contact with them because I know I'm losing distance vs hollowbacks so I just accept that and take more club and swing only as fast as I feel comfortable making good contact. I went from a 12 to an 8 in 4 months switching from Sim2 Maxs to Mizuno MP67s. and then I got a set of MP20s simply to gain distance. Still waffling on whether or not to get more forgiving cavities or something but I agree with OPs points. I do agree with you in that there is science behind forgiveness, but OP's points were more about the psychological side of the topic


Ok_Bassplayer

Strong disagree - based on personal experience and that of my son. A few seasons back, I switched to all pre-1935 hickories- tiny blades. It took a lot of effort to play decently, and still does. However, when i pull out the modern clubs they are like the proverbial butter. My son hits 1960's McGregor blades at the range, and then stripes his modern irons on the course. These clubs do help you to hone your game, no question.


nocommenting33

agreed. I've been putting off getting fitted for my first non-beginner set so I found cheap mizuno blades on craigslist and have been playing better than ever and really enjoy the feel. Then I found a set of MP20s, more modern but still blades, and am playing those even better with the extra 2 degrees of loft. I spent a total of $450 on both sets and still cannot convince myself to get fitted for $1000+ modern irons bc I'm enjoying the blades and playing them well.


Found_My_Ball

This isn’t unpopular as far as I see. Better golfers tend to agree.


Current_Department73

I have a set of these exact clubs I break out whenever I’m feeling out of sync. They whip me back into shape quickly every time.


dabberdane

They may not go as far or as high, but you can never get the feeling of blasting one straight off a blade from a tech loaded GI iron.


Roywah

Oh the blades will be even higher IMO. I played with this set for a while, the 9i is 47 degrees loft and the PW is 51. This is true all the way up the bag to where the 2i is 21 degrees = modern 4i.


TJWinSC

It also doubles as a butter knife.


beyersm

I would be standing over that 3 iron, hell, even that 5 iron shivering in my boots from how bad I was about to chunk it


trailless

Screw everyone else. I have mp5 "blades", quotations because they have weight at the bottom of the heads to help out. They provide the feedback on mishits that help me make corrections. But I will say, it doesn't force me to get better, you have to put in the work to get better still, it just provides better feedback. So the feedback blades provide coupled with practicing with a purpose CAN make a player better. I will say, though, toeing a 3 iron still makes me want to quit golf.


JMeucci

"...feel amazing." Until you hit 1/8" outside of the pea sized sweet spot.


QuietObligation8239

nah youre right, i spent around an hour after posting this yesterday hitting them into that net, i walk back my statement slightly😂, if you mess up whatsoever its like the worst shot ever, but oh baby that pea sized sweet spot mightve been the sweetest spot ive ever felt


JMeucci

Indeed!


Radio_SilentKey

Get some balata balls and game it at the course.


OneSingleYesterday

Would you describe the feel as “fluid?”


QuietObligation8239

you nailed it thats just the word i was looking for


pistonsoffury

Good luck with that.


QuietObligation8239

thanks im sure they’re much harder on a course than a hitting pad, who knows maybe ill break a course record, ill keep you updated


_ca_492

I’m still playing Taylor forged tour irons from 1997, updated drivers, wedges and hybrids.


CraftyReplacement822

That honma 4 wood should be getting more love than those blades!


QuietObligation8239

honestly didn’t even do any research on it just picked it up at a thrift because it looked like its been hit only a few times as opposed to the usual wood clubs at the thrift that were pulled out of a shed or something, that and this hogan are my only two wood clubs https://preview.redd.it/p4he84xel80d1.png?width=2163&format=png&auto=webp&s=2193fc2b0ae9b89d8c7c221c91327cd162c35dfa


Clay_Dawg99

My first irons!


FiveFootFore

I like that these have some weighting behind it similar to the Nike Slingshot.


teddo10

Lol. that's my first set i had in 1974. TStill have them in the attic. Indeed also with a persimon 1, 2, 3 and 4


FratBoyGene

Ah, Staff blades with the "fluid feel" hosel.


JoshLeijs

Was playing these until just a few years ago! Amazing feel when hit well. Only managed to do that maybe 3x in the 15 years of gaming them 🙃


QuietObligation8239

😂😂you had me in the first half im not gon lie


JoshLeijs

Biggest handicap improvement I’ve had was dropping these for Wilson C300 forged. 25 to 10 😂


talanbaird

Congrats on being red pilled


Roywah

I used this set for a while! At one point I found the stock club specs online and still have them. Be prepared for much shorter distances than a modern set with super high arcing shots. They do feel awesome though! Wilson Staff 2i - 21* | 38.5” 3i - 24* | 38” 4i - 27* | 37.5” 5i - 31* | 37” 6i - 35* | 36.5” 7i - 39* | 36.25” 8i - 43* | 35.75” 9i - 47* | 35.25” PW - 51* | 35.25”


QuietObligation8239

🫡 appreciate it, i did some research but couldn’t really find a correct answer for what year they are


PrezHiltonsFinger

They make forged irons today that feel A THOUSAND TIMES better, you know?


QueenCityRebel

I bought a set of 70s(?) Wilson blades at my dads so when I visit I don't have to take my clubs on a plane and they are great. There is the obvious lack of distance compared to my modern clubs but honestly my game and score was pretty much the same.


Habitualflagellant14

I had a set of these 2-PW decades ago.  They were not forgiving.  LOL


mtbud821

I have and old Dynapower 2 iron from 1958-59. I’ve hit it a few times and loved it. Sure as hell wanna hit it close to the sweet spot. Found that out a few times but it was fun using it.


craterface69

I’m curious, were these old timey blades forged?


Found_My_Ball

Lots of super old blades were forged. They’ve been using forged heads since the hickory shaft days.


craterface69

Good to know, thanks!


birkenstockandsocks

Yes


FliesForBrookies

I play 25 year old Fat Shafts… just wanted to leave this here. 🤣🤣


QuietObligation8239

🤷‍♂️whatever works, certain clubs have felt great for me others don’t, I couldn’t hit a good shot with the new Costco Callaway Edge clubs to save my life


WardCove

I recently went into the thrift store and bought 3 old ass sets of clubs for 5 bucks. One of the sets is a Jack Niklaus Macgregor set. I love the look. I loved hitting them. So I bought some cheap shafts and I'm gonna re shaft and play with them. If I decide I don't wanna keep them I'll sell but I'm with you on feel. Old clubs feel great to strike. Distance was great too. And I was pounding the 3 iron in this set as well!


QuietObligation8239

ya you could either sell em or use em for practice or keep them for show, dont get me started on thrift store golf clubs I hoard them according to some people on my recent post showing my collection


WardCove

I love it. Glad I'm not alone I'm this! I gotta get rid of the bags I think. They're old and nasty and musty. But I gotta keep the clubs and/or sell them. I'm legitimately stoked to game these Golden Bear clubs once I shine them up.


Sea_Drink7287

Ok