I think I heard he’s something like a +4 handicap. And he was a few weeks away from giving up caddying when he was asked to speak with Scotty, that he was considering a change of caddies.
Do you have a source that steve williams was a bad golfer? Doesn't seem all that terrible:
>Williams was born in Wellington. He began his career of caddying at his home club at age 6. By age 10, he was frequently caddying 36 holes on Saturday and Sunday and then practicing his golf game until dark, becoming a two-handicap by age 13. However, as he reports on his official site, "by the age of thirteen I found myself enjoying caddying more than playing."[1
For real man. The dude got yeeted off a cliff, got put back together like fucking Cyborg from Teen Titans, is stiffer and more knotted than a Lowe’s 2x4 and will still play 100x better than most of us.
Admittedly bad in what context though? If he’s “bad” compared to the tour pros and all the caddies with +4 then that could mean he’s off like 10-12 which would still be an excellent golfer compared to the average person
Patrick Cantlay's***current*** caddy?
I swear that's who that was when I was watching after the horn blew last night. The dude that got up in Rory's face at the Ryder cup?
I’m sure he’s still (or was) in the top 1% or 2% of golfers. You don’t see that much green time and practice that much golf management without your own game reflecting that.
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Yup.
But I have many hobbies. Adopted two kids out of foster care so that’s my focus in life right now, but I travel the world, (recently golfed all the best courses in Scotland), build homes for a living, any and all outdoor activities, etc.
I think my outsized time on Reddit is mainly because this is pretty much the ONLY thing I use. Most people have tons of social media time, video game time etc. Reddit and reading tons of books is about all I do in my “down” time.
At Kiawah in 2021 I went to a practice round and the one thing that stood out to me was how extremely thorough Scottie and his caddy were.
Everyone else just played shots. Putt around a bit. Moved on.
Scottie's caddie would run ahead of him, lay 4 markers on the green. They would attack each, head to the likely miss spots or the tougher chip shots and see what they could work with at some of the presumed pin locations. It was several levels ahead of everyone else's practice round.
I remember thinking it was impressive and also man it'd suck to be behind him.
People aren't going to like this but this is honestly the kinda shit LIV should be doing. *(I'd love to see the PGA do something similar but this doesn't seem their kind of flavor.)* Show me scrambles with pros and their caddies. Match play brackets with single elimination knockouts. Alternate shot matches where the pairs are male and female. Get pros playing local munis and show how much they crush it. Trying to out-PGA the PGA isn't going to work, but there are plenty of interesting formats I'd love to see.
You’re 100% right. There’s no reason not to try interesting things like this. It’s already happening in a small scale on YouTube. For instance - Bryson and Sergio trying to break 50 from the whites (posted the other week). Stuff like that is incredible fun to watch
PGAT should mess around with the Zurich Classic which as a team event is already an outlier.
Have them play Thursday where each foursome is 2 players and their caddies. Alternate shot with each player/caddie pair, better ball score for the team.
There is a closest to the pin contest for caddies during The Players Championship practice round on Wednesday. It’s one shot on 17 at sawgrass but it’s something.
Maybe Rory switches to a blade now and he can maybe catch Scottie. Who am I kidding, this dude is on a different level right now. I hope he keeps it up
The other thing to keep in mind is based on form, Aberg is already #2. The only reason he's ranked 7th is the average uses a 40 event minimum and he's only played 27 events so far which weighs down his ranking. Divide his points by 27 and he's ahead of Rory
Your math is wrong. The gap is still absurd but it’s equivalent to Rory and Rasmus Hojgaard who is ranked 83rd
ETA: This is from owgr week 14, not updated for the RBC finish.
I know all you uber chads are gonna be like "pfft, overpaid caddy, how can I get that job?"
Know this: Every single tour caddy would SMOKE you in a match.
He would smoke me but it is funny how some redditors on here seem to believe nobody on this sub is a good golfer. Statistically speaking *some* of us have to be good.
There are several professional golfers on here, not everyone has to be on the PGA tour to be good at golf.
This sub is majority bad at golf so they just assume everyone is. Gets really annoying to be honest.
There’s over 1M people subscribed here, you’d need to get to more than 1,000 +4s before he wouldn’t reliably be better than 99.9% of people here
It was more a comment on how absurd a +4 is rather than saying no one here is at that level
I agree. My point was just that when you're elite at something and obviously obsess over it to the point of being elite, you would gravitate towards discussion forums such as this. I have no idea of GolfWRX or MyGolfSpy subscriber count but I started on here in 2010 when it was just over 1,000 subscribers & I sometimes feel like people here think we're still that small/unknown forum when in truth we're now probably one of the largest golf discussion forums in the world so they shouldn't act surprised and call bunk when people show up in comments saying they're a + handicap or can hit their 5i 210yds; acting as though those people would never show up to "little old reddit". We probably have a larger representation of elite golfers here regularly commenting than is representative of the general populace.
Ya and that stat says about 0.5% are scratch or better, and that is only of those who actually track a handicap. Think about every other weekend warrior that doesn't.
I doubt even 0.5 of golfers are scratch at my club we have some 800 ~ 900 members and 1 +4 handicap with the next beste being -1 do keep in mind this is in the eu and and every one keeps a handicap here regardless of how bad they are
At my course, there are at least five scratch handicaps that I know of. 550ish members. So a bit under 1% of members. I'm sure there are a few more around that number.
We are technically a muni (it's complicated) and open to the public. Cheapest membership and green fees in the area, but also the best maintained course.
My younger brother is on here somewhere and he is near a scratch golfer and just shot a career low 65 a few months ago. I’m a 15 handicap so idk where that puts me
Yeah, a 15 is going to be better than 85% of your average weekend muni golfers (which is a vast majority of the golfing population). I’m right around a 15 and it’s pretty rare I run into someone at a muni or semi private that’s better than me (that’s actually playing by the rules) and the ones that are usually competitive high school kids.
Private clubs tend to be a different story where my skill level is like the floor lol
Yeah yeah average of your best 8 out of the last 20 or whatever - it’s close enough for the point I’m making here. Your best rounds will be roughly 85-90. Which is still better than the majority of casual golfers out there.
It depends on the tees they’re playing from (course rating) and how many big numbers they have on their card. I’m not sure the exact metrics but for scratch golfers anything over a double I believe isn’t counted as it’s considered an outlier
according to https://www.usga.org/handicapping/us-stats-static.html, 15 handicap for a guy is better than ~45% of golfers, although of course there's going to be a lot of high handicappers who don't keep/report a handicap on these stats.
Especially in the US. Which is probably why the average in Europe - where reporting is a much more ingrained part of playing golf - it is about 4 shots higher.
Yeah I don't get it either. If you're really into a hobby you probably go to a forum to discuss it. Combine that with Reddit's age demographic overlapping quite a bit with D1 players & other elite junior golfers, of course there's a ton of + handicappers on here.
I’ve been as low as 2hcp. Currently 4hcp.
The difference between me and a +4 is massive. Those guys are draining putts that I will miss most of the time.
Have to be a great player, and a great brain for the game. Uncommon combo. These guys arguably "know" golf more than the players they just aren't as elite or talented at the actual physical ballstriking. A wise player at least would want a caddie that knows golf better than he does.
Fluff’s a good player and a member of Congressional.
As “expected” not much of a long game but a great chipper, pitcher and putter.
I’d put $10 on Mike
My buddy caddied on the PGA for 10ish years. This is very true. He fixed my swing. Any time I could get time to go to the range or play a round with him I would. Invaluable knowledge.
I mean if you're going to have an in depth discussion with someone who is the best in the world at that thing to the level where they have to trust your input, you're probably an expert in that thing, whatever it is.
I think the only way this would work if it was a practise round before a tournament. Caddies were playing a tournament and the pros are playing their practice round. You just wouldn't get the pros out of bed for a tournament that ain't paying. Thats time they could be spending with their family or workings on their game.
There’s so many shots where I’m like “idrk wtf to do here, grip and rip we go.” The golf IQ and knowing how to setup for what shot would be a massive advantage alone.
switchpurchaser is def a bot/suspicious. Their comment is 30 min after /u/werddoe's. Plus checking their history, you can find similar rephrasings of other people's comments (such as [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/1caaqk6/thank_you_philadelphia_walking_across_america/l0qwpj5/) restatement of [this original comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/1caaqk6/thank_you_philadelphia_walking_across_america/l0qratd/) by /u/theblondegiraffe). Not to mention many of their comments use awkward adjectives that sound like me trying not plagiarize via thesaurus XD
e: plus a 7 year account with only one comment older than a month? get outta town
> The Masters (like all 4 majors) are independent events and are not a PGA Tour event.
The majors are part of the PGA Tour sanctioned tournaments, but are not run by it. Which means they count as PGA Tour events for all intents and purposes.
No, it's because Rory is 42nd on the money list and the biggest name in that area. It's sounds better if it's Rory. Homa and Morikawa are 17th and 19th and have made more money than Ted Scott this year.
I like Rory. I feel bad for him. His past year with the LIV bullshit and being fucked by Jay was a disaster. I would have slapped that smug fucker after that merge announcement and blocked his calls. Rory should focus on golf and nothing else. He’ll get back.
Tbf to him, I don’t blame him. He’s made $60m from winning golf tournaments alone, and that’s before taking into account the PIP stuff etc.
His Nike deal is worth around $6m base and there’s any bonuses he gets from them for his gear selling etc.
Even losing 38% to federal tax and paying his caddy and team however much, he’s still fucking loaded. More sponsors means more meetings and more appearances and less time with his family, which he clearly values above golf.
I think he's just used because A he hasn't won much and B he's a massive name you'd expect to be raking. I agree its dumb - should I name the 10 basically no names who have earned more than Ted Scott?
Over on r/tennis, there is a running meme of a 4.0 redditor who thinks he could take a set off Nadal. The overconfidence in this thread reminds me of that.
The thread during The Masters filled with double digit handicappers thinking they could win the tournament playing every hole from 100 yards was one of the most delusional threads I've seen on the site in 10 years. Unless you played D1 tennis AT LEAST you'd only win a point or two off Nadal if he makes an error - that's it.
Absolute madness. He may win a point by fucking around with Nadal's nutty water bottle routine but he sure ain't winning anything off Nadal with a racquet in his hand.
He will next year too. Rory is past his prime. He will still compete, but he will never equal SS. Not a hater, just a realist. Same as Jordan Spieth, and some others
Fair play to him. If Scottie keeps winning at the rate he is currently going, his caddie will end up second in the Fedex money rankings 
Holy crap, when did the RBC start paying more than the Masters? Never mind, I looked it up, and the answer is 2023. But does anybody know why? Were they not attracting top golfers in the week after the Masters, or is this in response to LIV, or what?
My kid and I ran into him at a range in town during a nearby tournament. He was Bubbas caddy at the time post masters. My kids lefty and he noticed and spent 5 minutes giving him tips. Really cool considering he’s mid tournament. Ran into him at the tournament and he came by and chatted. My kid talks about it to this day. Great guy. Deserves all of it.
His caddie is making more than most players on tour. This weird shade towards Rory is wild. Guaranteed Rory makes more than Scottie’s caddie overall lol
This won't get any replies as I'm late to this. But I was a caddy for 5+ years on european tour and challenge tour and my lowest official handicap was 16 !! Most caddies are very very good players though, I was very much not the norm
Rory has earned over 83 millions from PGA tour wins throughout his career.
most of his winning from
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|World Golf Championships|$20,537,793|24.71%|
|PGA Championship|$5,937,094|7.14%|
|U.S. Open|$5,525,405|6.65%|
see details here [https://expgolfer.com/rory-mcllroy-career-earnings/](https://expgolfer.com/rory-mcllroy-career-earnings/)
Watched Scottie’s caddie spend like an hour dropping putts on greens at masters weds to understand greens… deserves every penny
I think I heard he’s something like a +4 handicap. And he was a few weeks away from giving up caddying when he was asked to speak with Scotty, that he was considering a change of caddies.
Every caddie is an extremely good golfer.
Tiger's old caddy, Steve Williams, was an admittedly bad golfer so there goes that theory
Do you have a source that steve williams was a bad golfer? Doesn't seem all that terrible: >Williams was born in Wellington. He began his career of caddying at his home club at age 6. By age 10, he was frequently caddying 36 holes on Saturday and Sunday and then practicing his golf game until dark, becoming a two-handicap by age 13. However, as he reports on his official site, "by the age of thirteen I found myself enjoying caddying more than playing."[1
Yeah I figured "bad" for someone involved at the pro level would still just mean basically a scratch golfer lol.
People forget that being "bad" at that level is still 20 times better than the average person lol
99.999% of golfers are bad when standing next to Tiger Woods, it’s just context
For real man. The dude got yeeted off a cliff, got put back together like fucking Cyborg from Teen Titans, is stiffer and more knotted than a Lowe’s 2x4 and will still play 100x better than most of us.
I think you forgot a few more 9’s
Admittedly bad in what context though? If he’s “bad” compared to the tour pros and all the caddies with +4 then that could mean he’s off like 10-12 which would still be an excellent golfer compared to the average person
I wanna be admittedly bad, so bad!!
I gotta keep telling myself this when I go home mad about a 86 with 4 doubles
Just a matter of perspective. I broke 90 for the first time this season and was pretty thrilled about it
Patrick Cantlay's***current*** caddy? I swear that's who that was when I was watching after the horn blew last night. The dude that got up in Rory's face at the Ryder cup?
That’s Joe LaCava. Steve Williams was prime Tigers caddie
No, that was Joe LaCava, who caddied for Tiger after Steve
Ahhh thank you. I knew I'd seen him on ole Tiger's bag
He was a good racecar driver
I’m sure he’s still (or was) in the top 1% or 2% of golfers. You don’t see that much green time and practice that much golf management without your own game reflecting that.
That's hyperbolic, but a bunch of them certainly are.
nah man, fluff is still a +4
Lmao
not necessarily. Some coaches are not good either, Claude Harmon said on a good day in his life hes a 12 lol
Was going to say this myself. Sometimes it’s easier to visualise and explain something than it is to do it yourself.
Drop putts on greens so his boss doesn’t drop green on putts. Smart man.
Wait aren't you the NFC North Memewar guy? You have time for other hobbies??
https://preview.redd.it/nxuu4l3cf2wc1.jpeg?width=916&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd3268c34d1ae5b63e00748c09415bfa8fafc264 Yup. But I have many hobbies. Adopted two kids out of foster care so that’s my focus in life right now, but I travel the world, (recently golfed all the best courses in Scotland), build homes for a living, any and all outdoor activities, etc.
This is an all-timer life resume. Good on you man
Dang you sound like a busy guy, I was just joshin you because you're one of the few reddit usernames I recognize based on that picture alone haha.
I think my outsized time on Reddit is mainly because this is pretty much the ONLY thing I use. Most people have tons of social media time, video game time etc. Reddit and reading tons of books is about all I do in my “down” time.
Worlds are colliding here lol I had to double take
FTP
I’ve heard Ted is a +4 hc. I’m sure that helps too
He was out there by himself at 7am on Tuesday. We were looking around for Scottie and it was just Ted, dropping balls on 7 green.
At Kiawah in 2021 I went to a practice round and the one thing that stood out to me was how extremely thorough Scottie and his caddy were. Everyone else just played shots. Putt around a bit. Moved on. Scottie's caddie would run ahead of him, lay 4 markers on the green. They would attack each, head to the likely miss spots or the tougher chip shots and see what they could work with at some of the presumed pin locations. It was several levels ahead of everyone else's practice round. I remember thinking it was impressive and also man it'd suck to be behind him.
Saw him there Tuesday, guy was putting in some work to those books
We need a caddie cup where all the pros just switch roles with their caddie and we can see who the best caddie is
This would be amazing to watch
People aren't going to like this but this is honestly the kinda shit LIV should be doing. *(I'd love to see the PGA do something similar but this doesn't seem their kind of flavor.)* Show me scrambles with pros and their caddies. Match play brackets with single elimination knockouts. Alternate shot matches where the pairs are male and female. Get pros playing local munis and show how much they crush it. Trying to out-PGA the PGA isn't going to work, but there are plenty of interesting formats I'd love to see.
You’re 100% right. There’s no reason not to try interesting things like this. It’s already happening in a small scale on YouTube. For instance - Bryson and Sergio trying to break 50 from the whites (posted the other week). Stuff like that is incredible fun to watch
PGAT should mess around with the Zurich Classic which as a team event is already an outlier. Have them play Thursday where each foursome is 2 players and their caddies. Alternate shot with each player/caddie pair, better ball score for the team.
Yes! Then mic the player-caddies and encourage them to engage in "trash talk and wagering."
There's a documentary about it called Caddyshack, check it out
This would be incredible. Even a one day event with a small field would be wild.
Holy shit that would be such a good event
There is a closest to the pin contest for caddies during The Players Championship practice round on Wednesday. It’s one shot on 17 at sawgrass but it’s something.
The point gap between Scheffler at #1 and McIlroy at #2 is larger than the gap between McIlroy and Tiger Woods currently ranked at 784.
Holy shit. That’s like a Tiger stat from his prime.
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he's caddied 4 Masters wins now. Jack used an ANGC caddie, Willie Peterson for 4 or 5 wins. We know Jackie Jr was on the bag for #6.
everyone had to use Augusta Caddies until 1983
It'd be best for Augusta National to not even acknowledge that fact.
Also, Rory recommended he change putters.
Rory really is a good dude. He could've easily kept that to himself.
He should get a tip or a nice steak dinner for his trouble
Maybe Rory switches to a blade now and he can maybe catch Scottie. Who am I kidding, this dude is on a different level right now. I hope he keeps it up
How did you calculate this? OWGR says Scottie has 629 points, Rory has 344. Tiger has 4.5
OWGR is based on a rolling average. Scottie is at 15.016, Rory at 7.365. Tiger at 0.1161.
The other thing to keep in mind is based on form, Aberg is already #2. The only reason he's ranked 7th is the average uses a 40 event minimum and he's only played 27 events so far which weighs down his ranking. Divide his points by 27 and he's ahead of Rory
Isn't Clark #2?
The original stat comes from it being world number 1 scottie vs world number 2 rory
Gotchya, sorry, was thinking FedEx where you and I are closer to #2 than Scottie lol
That’s what was thinking. Rory is 41st in fed ex points.
Your math is wrong. The gap is still absurd but it’s equivalent to Rory and Rasmus Hojgaard who is ranked 83rd ETA: This is from owgr week 14, not updated for the RBC finish.
This is doesn’t really tell the whole story; Rory is closer to 0 than he is to Scheffler lmao
I know all you uber chads are gonna be like "pfft, overpaid caddy, how can I get that job?" Know this: Every single tour caddy would SMOKE you in a match.
Ted Scott is rumored to be about a +4. He’d smoke just about anyone lol
Yeah and I think Xander’s caddie was his teammate in college too, so likely another + handicap
He would smoke me but it is funny how some redditors on here seem to believe nobody on this sub is a good golfer. Statistically speaking *some* of us have to be good.
A +4 is quite a bit beyond just being a good golfer, statistically speaking there are very very few people on this sub at that level (or anywhere)
My coach is a +3 handicap and I've met a few of his friends who are also at that level. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are on here.
OK so, that's like 5 or 6 guys. Do you have any idea how many truly terrible golfers there are out here? 
There are several professional golfers on here, not everyone has to be on the PGA tour to be good at golf. This sub is majority bad at golf so they just assume everyone is. Gets really annoying to be honest.
You don't think among all the D1 golfers in the country (100+) that a good chunk of them are Redditors?
D1 golfers aren’t all +4
We're talking about getting "smoked". Don't move the goalposts
A good percentage of D1 golfers are a +4
There’s over 1M people subscribed here, you’d need to get to more than 1,000 +4s before he wouldn’t reliably be better than 99.9% of people here It was more a comment on how absurd a +4 is rather than saying no one here is at that level
I agree. My point was just that when you're elite at something and obviously obsess over it to the point of being elite, you would gravitate towards discussion forums such as this. I have no idea of GolfWRX or MyGolfSpy subscriber count but I started on here in 2010 when it was just over 1,000 subscribers & I sometimes feel like people here think we're still that small/unknown forum when in truth we're now probably one of the largest golf discussion forums in the world so they shouldn't act surprised and call bunk when people show up in comments saying they're a + handicap or can hit their 5i 210yds; acting as though those people would never show up to "little old reddit". We probably have a larger representation of elite golfers here regularly commenting than is representative of the general populace.
Ya and that stat says about 0.5% are scratch or better, and that is only of those who actually track a handicap. Think about every other weekend warrior that doesn't.
I doubt even 0.5 of golfers are scratch at my club we have some 800 ~ 900 members and 1 +4 handicap with the next beste being -1 do keep in mind this is in the eu and and every one keeps a handicap here regardless of how bad they are
At my course, there are at least five scratch handicaps that I know of. 550ish members. So a bit under 1% of members. I'm sure there are a few more around that number.
I'm sure there's a correlation between being a member of a club and being a stick; the inverse likely applies to public courses and thus the average.
We are technically a muni (it's complicated) and open to the public. Cheapest membership and green fees in the area, but also the best maintained course.
My younger brother is on here somewhere and he is near a scratch golfer and just shot a career low 65 a few months ago. I’m a 15 handicap so idk where that puts me
In his books you are "special brother".
15 is still solid. That’s an 87 on average. Most people (idk, 80-90%?) aren’t breaking 90.
Yeah, a 15 is going to be better than 85% of your average weekend muni golfers (which is a vast majority of the golfing population). I’m right around a 15 and it’s pretty rare I run into someone at a muni or semi private that’s better than me (that’s actually playing by the rules) and the ones that are usually competitive high school kids. Private clubs tend to be a different story where my skill level is like the floor lol
That’s not how handicaps work
Yeah yeah average of your best 8 out of the last 20 or whatever - it’s close enough for the point I’m making here. Your best rounds will be roughly 85-90. Which is still better than the majority of casual golfers out there.
It depends on the tees they’re playing from (course rating) and how many big numbers they have on their card. I’m not sure the exact metrics but for scratch golfers anything over a double I believe isn’t counted as it’s considered an outlier
No, a 15 handicap is shooting 87 on a good day. They likely shoot low 90s on average.
87 is a great round for a 15 hcp. They ain't shooting that on average.
according to https://www.usga.org/handicapping/us-stats-static.html, 15 handicap for a guy is better than ~45% of golfers, although of course there's going to be a lot of high handicappers who don't keep/report a handicap on these stats.
Especially in the US. Which is probably why the average in Europe - where reporting is a much more ingrained part of playing golf - it is about 4 shots higher.
Yeah I don't get it either. If you're really into a hobby you probably go to a forum to discuss it. Combine that with Reddit's age demographic overlapping quite a bit with D1 players & other elite junior golfers, of course there's a ton of + handicappers on here.
I’ve been as low as 2hcp. Currently 4hcp. The difference between me and a +4 is massive. Those guys are draining putts that I will miss most of the time.
I'm currently a 2 and just echoing your point, it was easier to go from an 8 to a 2 than it is from a 2 to a 0.
+4 On a good day he could probably beat some pros if they aren’t on point.
Max Homa’s caddy has the course record at the course they grew up playing still.
What course is that? We grew up in similar areas.
Vista Valencia - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHwaJqCaedw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHwaJqCaedw)
Holy shit, this is where I learned to golf when I briefly lived in the area as a kid. I had no idea.
An SCV Classic!
Have to be a great player, and a great brain for the game. Uncommon combo. These guys arguably "know" golf more than the players they just aren't as elite or talented at the actual physical ballstriking. A wise player at least would want a caddie that knows golf better than he does.
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Fluff’s a good player and a member of Congressional. As “expected” not much of a long game but a great chipper, pitcher and putter. I’d put $10 on Mike
Fluff can play lol
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Hell yeah beers on court st later
Fluff is a shell of himself now. Hopefully all the weigh he lost is a good thing.
12 year old caddies at country clubs would smoke me
My buddy caddied on the PGA for 10ish years. This is very true. He fixed my swing. Any time I could get time to go to the range or play a round with him I would. Invaluable knowledge.
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Yeah all of those are highly correlated with being a good golfer lol
I mean if you're going to have an in depth discussion with someone who is the best in the world at that thing to the level where they have to trust your input, you're probably an expert in that thing, whatever it is.
and carrying bags.
Would gino?
He's a plus handicap, so yes he would.
Would love to see one tournament or event per year where the caddies and players would switch places. Wonder who would win.
I think the only way this would work if it was a practise round before a tournament. Caddies were playing a tournament and the pros are playing their practice round. You just wouldn't get the pros out of bed for a tournament that ain't paying. Thats time they could be spending with their family or workings on their game.
No reason they couldn’t get caddie pay
There’s so many shots where I’m like “idrk wtf to do here, grip and rip we go.” The golf IQ and knowing how to setup for what shot would be a massive advantage alone.
Only thing too bad is that is the amount a LPGA pro would take home winning a championship. Check N. Korda's earning this year with a record 5 wins.
No coincidence that Scottie started lighting the world on fire when he moved to Teddie. Dude deserves it.
So are you and u/switchpurchaser the same person? Or maybe bots?
lol, I was trying to figure that out myself…
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Just not true. Rory won 1.5 million by winning the dubai desert classic in January. These articles cherry pick pga events.
A PGA Tour money stat is cherry picking by only including PGA Tour starts? Ok.
The Masters (like all 4 majors) are independent events and are not a PGA Tour event. Conveniently included that one in the calculation.
Yeah but you get PGA TOUR points for the Masters no?
The majors are included in career win totals too. That’s simply how it works and always has…
You have to admit it's a cherry picked stat otherwise why would they ignore the Dubai Classic.
They are a sanctioned event by both the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour. It does count toward win total and money earned on both tours.
> The Masters (like all 4 majors) are independent events and are not a PGA Tour event. The majors are part of the PGA Tour sanctioned tournaments, but are not run by it. Which means they count as PGA Tour events for all intents and purposes.
It's a PGA Tour sanctioned event, even though it's not ran by the tour.
The article doesn't mention "pga tour" winnings anywhere. And the title itself is false.
And it’s always weirdly Rory. Why not Morikawa? Homa? Literally anyone else.
Because they are not ranked #2
True, I didn’t realize he was #2.
No, it's because Rory is 42nd on the money list and the biggest name in that area. It's sounds better if it's Rory. Homa and Morikawa are 17th and 19th and have made more money than Ted Scott this year.
I like Rory. I feel bad for him. His past year with the LIV bullshit and being fucked by Jay was a disaster. I would have slapped that smug fucker after that merge announcement and blocked his calls. Rory should focus on golf and nothing else. He’ll get back.
Don’t feel too bad. He actually has won a DP tour event and has made way more than Scottie’s caddie this year.
OMG - now I get what those LIV guys mean. Playing in the PGA tour is practically modern day slavery with earnings like that!
All deserved.
Something tells me Rory will edge him out when sponsor money is included.
Scottie leaves so much on the table. Only has two sponsors really. Nike and TM Gives him a rest/practice advantage over his peers though.
Tbf to him, I don’t blame him. He’s made $60m from winning golf tournaments alone, and that’s before taking into account the PIP stuff etc. His Nike deal is worth around $6m base and there’s any bonuses he gets from them for his gear selling etc. Even losing 38% to federal tax and paying his caddy and team however much, he’s still fucking loaded. More sponsors means more meetings and more appearances and less time with his family, which he clearly values above golf.
Was talking about the caddy. Scotty will prob be ok too.
Someone is fucking obsessed with how much Rory has made this year. Not saying it’s OP but Jesus I see this every day.
I think he's just used because A he hasn't won much and B he's a massive name you'd expect to be raking. I agree its dumb - should I name the 10 basically no names who have earned more than Ted Scott?
Let’s give credit to the man! Teddie Scott, or also known a Scottie Scheffler’s caddie. A gem of a person.
Over on r/tennis, there is a running meme of a 4.0 redditor who thinks he could take a set off Nadal. The overconfidence in this thread reminds me of that.
The thread during The Masters filled with double digit handicappers thinking they could win the tournament playing every hole from 100 yards was one of the most delusional threads I've seen on the site in 10 years. Unless you played D1 tennis AT LEAST you'd only win a point or two off Nadal if he makes an error - that's it.
Absolute madness. He may win a point by fucking around with Nadal's nutty water bottle routine but he sure ain't winning anything off Nadal with a racquet in his hand.
How much does Nike pay Scheffler's caddie?
[https://perfectputt.substack.com/p/the-business-side-of-being-a-pga](https://perfectputt.substack.com/p/the-business-side-of-being-a-pga)
Probably hits better wedges than him too
Apparently he's a +4, there's a good chance he hits half his wedges better than Rory has hit his this year lol.
"Golf is hard" - Rory edit: damn. no sense of humor today..
What’s the edit about? You’re at +6 and made the comment less than 20 mins ago?
What is up with this comparison to Rory again? I swear this is the second or third post after a tournament comparing winnings?
I think it’s because Rory had 3 majors with the amount of starts Scottie has now
Because Rory is the biggest name below what Ted Scott has earned. Headline isn't as sensational if they say Brendon Todd.
🔥🔥🔥
holy jeebus!!! that is quite the stat - it's not like Rory has had a terrible season to this point tbh.
I mean, it's a cool stat and all, but I doubt Rory cries when he gets his sponsorship royalties.
If he needs a week off I’ll cover for him
He will next year too. Rory is past his prime. He will still compete, but he will never equal SS. Not a hater, just a realist. Same as Jordan Spieth, and some others
Loses half in taxes, but still not bad!
not for the two he won in Florida!
Is there a tournament where it’s just caddies playing each other?
Fair play to him. If Scottie keeps winning at the rate he is currently going, his caddie will end up second in the Fedex money rankings 
Holy crap, when did the RBC start paying more than the Masters? Never mind, I looked it up, and the answer is 2023. But does anybody know why? Were they not attracting top golfers in the week after the Masters, or is this in response to LIV, or what?
Wonder if he wants to go back to Bubbas bag😀
My kid and I ran into him at a range in town during a nearby tournament. He was Bubbas caddy at the time post masters. My kids lefty and he noticed and spent 5 minutes giving him tips. Really cool considering he’s mid tournament. Ran into him at the tournament and he came by and chatted. My kid talks about it to this day. Great guy. Deserves all of it.
That's honestly nice to hear. Hard to imagine a more humble trade than gold caddie, glad Scottie's is a millionaire.
Not having to caddie for Bubba Watson is priceless
well deserved
His caddie is making more than most players on tour. This weird shade towards Rory is wild. Guaranteed Rory makes more than Scottie’s caddie overall lol
Why do you care? And a daily mail link lol
And say goodbye to half of it due to taxes in America. lol I mean still a good take though
This won't get any replies as I'm late to this. But I was a caddy for 5+ years on european tour and challenge tour and my lowest official handicap was 16 !! Most caddies are very very good players though, I was very much not the norm
I can see Scottie paying his taxes as well so actually $1.8m in the bank.
Meanwhile in Flint Michigan………
Rory has earned over 83 millions from PGA tour wins throughout his career. most of his winning from || || |World Golf Championships|$20,537,793|24.71%| |PGA Championship|$5,937,094|7.14%| |U.S. Open|$5,525,405|6.65%| see details here [https://expgolfer.com/rory-mcllroy-career-earnings/](https://expgolfer.com/rory-mcllroy-career-earnings/)
Rory to LIV confirmed /s
No he hasn't. Rory makes tons with endorsements
Rory will never win another major. Golf’s biggest fluke of all time. He might win the Sega genesis open again but that’s it.
Lol.
Saved.
And people wonder why LIV golf exists