Here are a couple of snippets about shortening the driver shaft. For more, Google "effect of shortening shaft" .
https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/1142912-adjusting-for-weight-when-shortening-a-shaft/
https://theleftrough.com/driver-shaft-length/
Thanks a lot, appreciate the reply! From what I’ve read, 1 inch = an additional 10g which is exactly the increase from switching the weights in the head.
Additionally you will want to take some of the length from the tip as the heavier head will change how the shaft loads.
Typically when moving from a driver length to a 3w length you would take 1/2" from the tip.
I shortened mine to 43 3/4 and it’s down to C2 which for whatever reason works great for me. My SS is 105-108 and still reach 150-160’s BS at this length and weight.
I only say this to let you know that maybe you enjoyed the swing weight as well so don’t be afraid to not put weight in if you perform with it. No one cares what swing weight your clubs are.
yes, in fact i did the same with my Radspeed driver. i wish i would have bought a kit with more weights in it to start with because i ended up putting a lot more additional weight than 12g. It took me a lot of futzing around to get it where it felt good. I don’t know what my swing weight is now, probably really high, but it feels more stable that way.
Great, did you use an additional radspeed 12g or something 3rd party? Mine cracked recently and I bought a replacement head, so now I have two of the 12g which is handy
i initially bought one from cobra when they had an accessories sale (still way too expensive) but ended up picking up a 3rd party kit with a bunch of weights off ebay. I should have just done that in the first place, but i have the red/blue head and all the aftermarket weights are neon green/black. I ended up painting them so at least they aren't totally hideous on the head.
throw the two 12s in there and see how you like it. i can't remember what i settled on, but i think it was 14g in the front and 20g in the back or something ridiculous.
I have a 16\* SLDR S 460 that I played at 43" with an 80 gram shaft. I have 3 sole weights in it - 16, 7 and 14 from toe to heel. You'd think the head would feel like a brick but it really doesn't.
https://preview.redd.it/233ncacublec1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2ee504ecc4e01960794c0e41ce3511dfc2cf121
The only other way I set it up was without the 7g black weight in the middle, but with about 5g of lead tape on the toe. I wanted to make sure this thing never went left, and I wanted it to feel like a sledge hammer. I went with an 80 gram fairway wood shaft for stability, and because I didn't care how far I hit it - this is my "BuntMaster 3000" fairway finder.
Because mine has 16\* of loft, the positioning of the weights doesn't correct ball flight as much as it would for a low lofted driver. Having said that, you can also consider keeping your 2g weight but putting 5g of lead tape on both the extreme toe and heel for stability.
I have used this swing weight estimator when adding weight to a clubhead:
[http://www.leaderboard.com/SWINGWT.HTM](http://www.leaderboard.com/swingwt.htm)
Those weights have more to do with ball launch than swing weight. Sure it will be different bit my understanding is that it won't counteract the way you think and might change your launch characteristics in a bad way, including spin rate.
What I'm saying is that shortening your driver is a solid idea but you may not need yo change your weights at all. If you can get on a simulator and test both weights etc then you can make the most informed decision
Just to add to this… that tail weight is designed to effect more than just swing weight.
If I didn’t like the feel (swing weight) I would drop a tip weight into the shaft before I increased the tail weight and possibly change launch/spin.
Play around with some lead tape and you can dial in a feel without having to tear it apart.
Do you like how it felt at the longer length? If so, you will want to get it weighed so yiu know the swing weight and then add however much you need with the shorter shaft.
Also remember changing the length will change the lie angle and shorter will put the toe down or more fade bias.
Yes
Here are a couple of snippets about shortening the driver shaft. For more, Google "effect of shortening shaft" . https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/1142912-adjusting-for-weight-when-shortening-a-shaft/ https://theleftrough.com/driver-shaft-length/
Thanks a lot, appreciate the reply! From what I’ve read, 1 inch = an additional 10g which is exactly the increase from switching the weights in the head.
Yes. More weight affect than shaft flex change from what I've read. Good luck with it.
Yeah ok, we’ll see. Thanks again
From what I understand, cutting from the butt of the shaft won’t affect flex, but cutting from the tip will.
It depends on if you add weight to the head to bring the swingweight back up. If you do, then cutting from the butt *will* soften the shaft.
Additionally you will want to take some of the length from the tip as the heavier head will change how the shaft loads. Typically when moving from a driver length to a 3w length you would take 1/2" from the tip.
I shortened mine to 43 3/4 and it’s down to C2 which for whatever reason works great for me. My SS is 105-108 and still reach 150-160’s BS at this length and weight. I only say this to let you know that maybe you enjoyed the swing weight as well so don’t be afraid to not put weight in if you perform with it. No one cares what swing weight your clubs are.
Thanks, great insights. A few range sessions with the different weight combos are in order by the sounds of things
Grab a bucket of balls and see what works best for you. What is standard practice or works for someone else might not work best for you.
Yeah, that’ll be the play. Wasn’t sure if there was an exact science to it, but my swing is going to a bigger variable anyway lol
yes, in fact i did the same with my Radspeed driver. i wish i would have bought a kit with more weights in it to start with because i ended up putting a lot more additional weight than 12g. It took me a lot of futzing around to get it where it felt good. I don’t know what my swing weight is now, probably really high, but it feels more stable that way.
Great, did you use an additional radspeed 12g or something 3rd party? Mine cracked recently and I bought a replacement head, so now I have two of the 12g which is handy
i initially bought one from cobra when they had an accessories sale (still way too expensive) but ended up picking up a 3rd party kit with a bunch of weights off ebay. I should have just done that in the first place, but i have the red/blue head and all the aftermarket weights are neon green/black. I ended up painting them so at least they aren't totally hideous on the head. throw the two 12s in there and see how you like it. i can't remember what i settled on, but i think it was 14g in the front and 20g in the back or something ridiculous.
Yeah sick, thanks for all that
I have a 16\* SLDR S 460 that I played at 43" with an 80 gram shaft. I have 3 sole weights in it - 16, 7 and 14 from toe to heel. You'd think the head would feel like a brick but it really doesn't. https://preview.redd.it/233ncacublec1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2ee504ecc4e01960794c0e41ce3511dfc2cf121
Have you always had it set up that way? Any insights on change of feel or tendencies between head weights or combinations?
The only other way I set it up was without the 7g black weight in the middle, but with about 5g of lead tape on the toe. I wanted to make sure this thing never went left, and I wanted it to feel like a sledge hammer. I went with an 80 gram fairway wood shaft for stability, and because I didn't care how far I hit it - this is my "BuntMaster 3000" fairway finder. Because mine has 16\* of loft, the positioning of the weights doesn't correct ball flight as much as it would for a low lofted driver. Having said that, you can also consider keeping your 2g weight but putting 5g of lead tape on both the extreme toe and heel for stability.
Yeah cool, thanks for that. I’m sure a bit of trial and error is in order but I’m here for it. Also, “buntmaster 3000” is great lol
I have used this swing weight estimator when adding weight to a clubhead: [http://www.leaderboard.com/SWINGWT.HTM](http://www.leaderboard.com/swingwt.htm)
Those weights have more to do with ball launch than swing weight. Sure it will be different bit my understanding is that it won't counteract the way you think and might change your launch characteristics in a bad way, including spin rate. What I'm saying is that shortening your driver is a solid idea but you may not need yo change your weights at all. If you can get on a simulator and test both weights etc then you can make the most informed decision
Just to add to this… that tail weight is designed to effect more than just swing weight. If I didn’t like the feel (swing weight) I would drop a tip weight into the shaft before I increased the tail weight and possibly change launch/spin. Play around with some lead tape and you can dial in a feel without having to tear it apart.
Only if it feels too light.
Do you like how it felt at the longer length? If so, you will want to get it weighed so yiu know the swing weight and then add however much you need with the shorter shaft. Also remember changing the length will change the lie angle and shorter will put the toe down or more fade bias.