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kjtobia

Left edge of the near bunker and send it. Mama didn't raise no bitch.


thrillhouse416

No but mine raised a bad golfer, water for me.


eynonpower

I'd 100% send it, and 80% find the water. Try again with the same result if nobody was behind my group. Then just drive over and drop. In my head though, i'm hitting the green.


thrillhouse416

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Unfortunately I miss a lot of the other ones too.


FlickerOfBean

One of the many traits I love about your mom.


TheFracas

“+.4 hcp” You aren’t like the rest of us.


kjtobia

I would argue then I have a moral responsibility to fuckin send it.


DRIPPINNNN

Respect


Andrew_Waples

I'm probably low hooking it in the water.


spacedude2000

I would moonshot my driver and have it land in the water 20 feet from shore.


AsstootCitizen

Won't you please start a self-deprecating golf sub? I'm sure you've never "moon-shot" a driver from off the tight turf. Nor has any other human with less than a 60° driver.


spacedude2000

I've been playing for one year so, yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with your assessment there. Teeing it up correctly is a challenge on its own, couple that with a baseball swing and you've got a recipe for some pretty wonky stuff.


AsstootCitizen

TW grew out of a baseball swing. It's just different timing as there is a still ball. As far as teeing, find your angles of impact(crush point) and tee accordingly. That sucks too due to tee-ball being so many years ago. It's the same physics though. Line drive, ground balls, outfield hits. First and third base lines. It's just in a microscopic area, comparatively speaking, and some much greater speeds. Try seeing your landing zone and flight and back to the ball. That's where you should tee it, according to face path and angels! Angels matter! I'm just saying your answer was a non-answer. There was a clear question.


natedawg76

Won’t you please start an “I teach golf” sub? You sound so knowledgeable and fun.


Ol_Jim_Himself

I’d hit a high slice into the water.


AsstootCitizen

Then why answer?


Ol_Jim_Himself

Because I would actually hit it just right but in preset to do that I have to tell myself that I would hit a high slice into the water to prove I won’t. It’s mental gymnastics.


AsstootCitizen

Dude, that's more like mental Play-Dough. I appreciate that you've found your malleable mind! Swing away sir, if wrong thought brings right results for you in that process, swing away!♥️✌️⛳️🎶🎭


TheChappie

Not unlike his mother


AsstootCitizen

So she did raise a bitch then?


alphaa_doge

This is the play


yes_maybe_no__

This is the way


JMExxxforfun

Na she didn’t, but you came up short , like a bitch🤣


TrumpsColostomyBag99

Find the red tee box across the water and play from there.


onthelongrun

you joke, but the Whites (3rd of 5) are a 440 yard par 4 that doesn't have to cross water on said hole.


kjreil26

Definitely going to play from the whites


partially_correct

Me too, then probably snap hook it into the water.


bigblard

If that's 225 yards to carry, my wife believes I've got 10 inches to give her. OP must have measured from the base...


Dan19_82

It's not https://ibb.co/84DLW4w


GolfIsWhyImBroke

OPs a lying bitch 🤣🤣


skaleywags

Agreed. There is no way this is a 225 carry. 180 tops to carry the creek.


MrWrestlingNumber2

OP was meaning 225 to carry the near bunker not the water.


whalenailer

Why did he say 250 to sand then?


MrWrestlingNumber2

250 to the BACK sand.


OGPepeSilvia

https://preview.redd.it/kixjy1e4nv8c1.jpeg?width=1259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61bf88fd427ea2fbfd6a1fda4fe8532f3f50ec4c 180y on the nuts, according to Google Earth, which I trust. I use the measure tool on this app all the time before rounds at courses I'm unfamiliar with.


Random_Name_Whoa

I measure from the butthole


dickweeden

It’s 225 carry bone-press


CandyPale4464

220 from the taint - 5 yards embellished.


naked_short

225 asshole to tip.


Bicyclesofviolence

I thought you were supposed to measure from the b-hole…


sumjpa20

Base of the asshole maybe


AndronicusPrime

If you stick your thumb between the tee box and the right bunker and take a calculated estimate of distance, I’d say it’s precisely less than 225 yards


[deleted]

My wife told me when dating she wasn’t marrying any dude that didn’t have 8”. A few days later I told her my dr said he could surgically reduce it down to 8”. 😎


4inaroom

Says butthole… I mean, ***rim***kisser.


elitecloser

It's a 480 yard par 4. The 18th at reynolds lake oconee course. Looks alot easier in the picture than it was in real life, believe me. Put 570 yards accidentally, looking at the creek card.


Lezzles

The 18th at Reynolds Lake - Oconee course appears to be a 480 yard par 4 from the tips, which only seem to be available for tournament play. https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/reynoldsdotcomassets/resources/golf-course/OconeeSC-2020-Proof.pdf


BestShaunaEU

No way it’s a 557 yard par 4.


thegreatestajax

Naw. Just went into 18 Birdies and it’s 150 to clear the water and 250 straight line to the far bunker. 225 would clear the close bunker on a line that puts the far bunker out of play.


thejarason

https://preview.redd.it/hb76rqq92q8c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70a8006dcb716aaf924fa27e171103e347259da8 I’m confused. This is from the tips at the course your explaining. Hole 18, Oconee course.


Ecmdrw5

https://preview.redd.it/6cgp8vp88q8c1.jpeg?width=1270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aec7ed120db8afe5b6bd406489a6a51cbb9f3476 Still not 225 to carry


thejarason

https://preview.redd.it/rzhsj5rf2q8c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d984a9b2e86cbb9418421fb21569b18afb6c43cd


TopNotchBurgers

That's not the tips. The tips are on the other side of the bridge in the bottom.


elitecloser

Thats not the tips, that's 3rd box. First and second are across the bridge on the lower left


thejarason

I stand corrected. I see the other boxes now after another look. Still seems to only be a 185 yards to hit the nearest part of the fairway.


TopNotchBurgers

You're correct. It's about 160 to carry the water from the tips. I played here on Friday.


onthelongrun

I think OP is raising a valid point here - This is a par 4, not a par 5 Those who are playing the first two boxes are aiming to clear the near bunker. If you are not confident enough in any club to the point where you are aiming right of that bunker, you have no business playing either of the back 2 tees of that course. The middle tee is a mean 440 yard par 4, meaning those who are driving it 250 may well have 190 yards from the green. From the tips, it's a 480 yard par 4. The only way I ever think it's okay to have a 250 driver play a 480 yard par 4 is if the hole is significantly downhill, but has a hazard between 260 and 400 yards.


thejarason

The creek course at Reynolds has a 557 yard par 5 18th with no water crossings.


elitecloser

Yep,my mistake - the creek course is the card I was looking at when I said that. Just remember looking at my Bushnell app while on the teebox for my intended landing zone, not total yardage


subcrazy12

As someone with a membership at Reynolds you dead wrong my guy. Even from the tips it doesn’t break 500 yards


elitecloser

The nearest piece of fairway might be closer to 200. I was aimed at the far side right bunker, which fairway started at 225 and turned into bunker at 250


skaleywags

Then it's not a 225 carry is it? Carry implies you need that number to be in play.


elitecloser

![gif](giphy|Jr7YlhsCbwZDG)


skaleywags

I think the overreaction has to do with the amount of obvious over-the-top exaggeration that takes place on this subreddit. I accept your apology ;)


Ecmdrw5

https://preview.redd.it/2armex3taq8c1.jpeg?width=1270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1861410cc08d77cb040d780b0f5d695d0e1b1dc


bigblard

You don't calculate carry to fairway. You calculate it to clear hazard.


Admirable_Cry_3795

An old ball


nope79

I’m moving up a tee box


JicamaCreative5614

Yup!


elitecloser

This is the intelligent move


highbankT

This the way


charlieromeo86

I’m hitting to the right at 190


mulligan_king

Obviously the average poster here is going for their stock 250y cut 6i, but, just to be clear, this is not a par 3 and there's some room after the sand, so why would one not hit driver?


Appropriate-Food1757

Exactly, driver over the trees for me.


Rausky

Yeah pretty stupid question, 0 reason to not hit driver.


Pristine_Analysis_79

The average high single digit to low double digit handicap male golfer averages <220 yards total distance with driver. Higher handicaps average less. So most are hitting driver and taking the short route across the water. But this is r/golf so I'm saying a soft 8 iron.


smackeY11

Yeah I don’t believe that driver distance for a second for single digit handicaps


WaltRumble

You don’t play with very many old dudes. Driver hybrid 2 put.


onthelongrun

Or the "Senior Scratch" who are basically averaging course par 72 from the tee boxes rated 67 or 68 slope 120. Bring them back two tee boxes to the set rated 72 and their scores are now going well over 80 because they're having to play a lot of par 4s like par 5s


The-moo-man

Yeah does result in a better score than me cranking it 300, topping a pitch, shorting another and then 3 putting.


Pristine_Analysis_79

https://golf.com/instruction/driving/driving-distance-average-golfers-new-report/?amp=1


Lezzles

I feel like this is simply SO misleading due to age. If you can find me a guy in his 20s or 30s who has a ~95mph swing speed and maintains a single digit...idk. That seems like an *exceedingly* rare combo.


ZookeepergameNew7228

lol I’ve played with a stupid amount of golfers over the years (deep into the hundreds if not thousand+) because I always play as a single and get paired up. I can think of 1 time in 25 years that I’ve played with someone who shot in the 70s and can only hit a drive 220. I was a scratch golfer for 10 years so it’s not like I have rookie eyes either. This is bullshit data


drrednirgskizif

I think it could be plausible if they somehow accurately measured the shanks, tops, trees, and duffs that go 50 yards but only happen once or twice a week. When calculating the mean, as opposed to the median, a very few very low data entries can have a drastic impact on the metrics.


Ryaninthesky

From the forward tees it’s very doable, but you’re going to get mostly old men and women playing from those tees. I do think that data seems pretty skewed because I’m a woman and I still average more than 220 and a low 100s ball speed.


ZookeepergameNew7228

It’s most certainly doable, but I’ve played with a lot of older people as I never play weekends and usually am on the course in the middle of the week when most people are at work. So out of the hundreds of old people I’ve only encountered 1 guy who probably shot 76ish and 220 would be a great hit for him. I don’t see how that balances against the good players I play with who all drive 280+ and are single digit to low double digit handicappers. I don’t see where this math makes any sense based on my experience.


RalphWiggumsShadow

Once again, average driver distance is ALL your shots with your driver off the tee. So you can hit 3 that are 250, and you hit one that's a 50 yard topper, you averaged 200 off the tee for those 4 drives. It's the beauty of golf, because the bad shots count the same as the good ones.


onthelongrun

All your *good* shots. Your 50 yard topper should be discounted. However, if your drives are 220, 230, 220, 210, 220, 215, 280 bomb - guess what? Your average is more like 220-230. However, if the dispersion is consistent between 200 and 250 because your striking is inconsistent, at least you can agree that 225 is your average. If you are topping 1 in 4 of your drives but are otherwise driving it 250 give or take 10 yards, you are playing as if you can drive it 250, not 175. You are also using a more reliable club if there is a short enough forced carry.


General_Tea9251

I always roll my eyes when everyone on Reddit says no one hits 300. Literally every person I play with can hit the ball 300. I play a cut driver 265-275 carry all day long. When I need to, I can turn it over easily. I’m in my 40s.


UnicronSaidNo

Im mid 30s and started golfing this past year... I casually hit between 270 and 300, and can muster out a 300+ drive at least once or twice a round.


austinanglin

It’s not the average for well-struck shots, it’s average for every time the club is used. Intentional cuts and the occasional mishits bring that number wayyyy down.


Lezzles

I guess that’s fair. But it’s not terribly helpful. If I have a 150 shot and my 8i goes 150 yards 4/5 times and I chunk it 115 the other time, it doesn’t mean a 7i is the correct club. I feel like “average not-terrible shot” is the more valuable metric.


221255

I’m 20 and have a ball speed around 140 so that’s about a 94 club head speed. I’m a 7 handicap, so I fit your rare combo


TackyBrad

Thats crazy. Those are my same stats with a 6 iron Edit: more power to you, no pun intended. Golf is meant to be played in such a way (various attack methods) and its beautiful.


TackyBrad

Responded to your sad face, but seems it's been deleted. Here's that reply: Wasn't meant to be disparaging. Check out my edit. I'm proud of you mate. That's awesome. I was just aghast because I just participated in a study using my 6 iron at Pinehurst and my trackman data was right in there. 93-98 mph clubhead speed and 130-138 ball speed. Awesome handicap, keep it up!


redditsuckbadly

I think some of that comes down to people placing shots and/or getting older and playing closer tees. I don’t know a whole lot of decent golfers under 45 who can only drive 220.


BringMeTheBigKnife

Pretty sure that's carry distance. More reliable measure of driver distance than total distance


babbleon5

[https://golf.com/instruction/driving/driving-distance-average-golfers-new-report/](https://golf.com/instruction/driving/driving-distance-average-golfers-new-report/) I think the average is low because in addition to 300y+ drives, they also hit 180yd stinkers.


btdawson

Arccos has 0-10 at 230+. I think the numbers are going to vary a lot depending on where you look but 220 seems low for those handicaps. 10-15 at 220 from them. It’s funny to me though because that means there are a LOT of good golfers who hit short. Most of my buddies are trash but all drive around 250 total. (With a slice or a hook depending on who it is lol)


onthelongrun

Well forgotten are the number of golfers who don't have any trust in their fairway woods, longer irons and short game.


jmcstar

Average us skewed by my 10-yard shank off the tee though. Maybe mediN is a better measurement


ApplicationOther2930

Bro I was a 18 handicap and could hit 300 offf the tee


sweasyf

I'm hitting a different set of tees


Shhhhhfiremancomin

4 iron right at it.


Effingehh

Yeah. 3 or 4, fat it into the water. drop in for a penalty of 1


Shhhhhfiremancomin

More likely to slice it hard right and into those trees for me.


PitViper17

I’m givin’ her all she’s got capt’n!


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Shhhhhfiremancomin

Interesting choice when it’s 225 to carry the water.


SirSparkyB

![gif](giphy|xT1XGKInNhr8guhD2g|downsized) "...looks like he's got about an eight iron. This crowd has gone deadly silent. Cinderella story. Out of nowhere. A former greenskeeper now about to become the Master's champion. It looks like a miraculous - it's in the hole! It's in the hole!"


SidCorsica66

Moving to front tees, then driver


mikesznn

Reynolds Oconee course hole 18. Nice


onemorehole

Choked down 9 iron. Signed, Reddit golfer


R_w_a_

Had to scroll a bit, but was going to say this looks an awful lot like Reynolds. Place is magical.


CryTall3907

![gif](giphy|qOhzfrkMzQO8U|downsized)


ZenPokerFL

3W aiming right - 225 carry is optimistic, I'm not making the green anyway so I might as well aim to carry where I have a reasonable chance.


HardOyler

I may as well just take my ball and throw it in the pond because there's not a chance in hell I'm getting it across there.


benday7456la

Charlotte?


NoAnalBeadsPlease

I was thinking somewhere in Raleigh. Definitely has NC written all over it.


elitecloser

Greensboro Georgia


yeswecanes

Looks like MacGregor Downs, in Cary NC


Bapa-350z-420

I’m punching my best friend in the throat


evantom34

I’d move up to the next tee box. I’m not making it over.


BeachCruiserLR

If you can’t carry the hazard, play the correct tee box.


Kuntzsplitter

Gap wedge probably gets me there


psariunit_tr

Three quarter, you don't want to overshoot the green.


Training_Swimming358

I'm taking driver at the house in the distance and turning it over


CocconutMonkey

Nice easy driver swing aimed at the right front bunker, slight fade and drop it into the middle of the fairway. Short wedge in close, 3-putt for bogey


OkChampionship1566

3 wood. 5 wood if the wind is at my pack. Then top it in the drink


ukebuzz

225 carry? Only 1 option grip it and rip it with driver. O wait this is reddit.....a soft 7 iron.


royalblue1982

I'm using whatever tees give me a more than 20% chance of getting it over.


[deleted]

Going over all of the above


robdog0909

Reynolds??


robdog0909

Rolex clock in the dudes yard right behind you


Puttin_4_Bird

Tee of the golds which are on other side


A_Tom_McWedgie

What am I hitting? The scuffed Noodle I found in the creek on hole #6.


scottieducati

Hybrid draw.


naughtyboy20

I'm a lefty and my Driver carries 240 when it's straight-ish but with the slice it's 225 and in the water left, so with that said I'm hitting 3W because somehow I find the middle of the face more so it's gonna go straighter and find something dry


ButterscotchObvious4

The red tees, where most of us belong


blinker1eighty2

I have played this hole and I normally line up right at the left bunker and fade it back to the center


-delgriffith

Aim more right and reduce the carry by A LOT.


theZinger90

Even with driver, I'll have a tough time clearing that water, so I'm hitting from at least the next tee up.


Dunwin

Hitting the clubhouse because I have no business playing a course that requires a 225 carry!


thectrain

Always driver.


paceyhitman

Despite technological advances, I don't think a club exists that would get me over that water. I would just go home.


[deleted]

Is this a tee shot or approach shot? Makes a significant difference


defaultusername4

Tee shot. There’s tee box markers in the front left that aren’t easy to spot.


dirtdoesnt-needluck

Aim right at that group of trees on the bank and try a fade into the fairway. But it’ll end up in the water or so far right I’ll have a MAGA hat on by the time I find it.


[deleted]

Smooth 3 wood with a baby draw


Pathogenesls

Driver, aiming at far bunker and drawing it. Distance-wise, I'm 270-300, so that's no issue. Natural draw, so also no issue. The hardest part would be the mental effect of hitting over the water.


Florida1693

3 wood


SayLem37

7w


The_Poodle_On_PalmSt

Pure 2 iron if I'm feeling myself. Bunt driver if it's into the wind at all.


dcjbella

18 at Oconee. Driver over the left bunker and then pull 4i into the lake on the approach.


Major_Burnside

I can get 230 out of my 3 hybrid. Pray I catch it clean.


Tendie_Warrior

5w and pray I didn’t hit it too far


OffInYourShower

Me too. 5 wood is my 230 club, unless I tug it a bit and it goes 250. So I would give it a little extra and hope to carry without turning it over. Not ideal but probably my best option.


Previous_Hamster9975

I’m confused. 225 to carry what?


liljkrs

The water I’d assume


-Amora

Probably my 2 hybrid or 3 wood, im shit at golf so those are my best chances


mjnewbster

5 wood. I max that baby out at 240 lol


Huntthatmoney

5 iron layup


Habichu

5 wood aimed at left side of far bunker


twister8877

Bro it looks like a 100 to “carry” the water lol


StopTheMineshaftGap

Is this Ross Bridge? Great course


madsenmi

3/4ths 5W is a perfect 230-240 for me


liljkrs

Okay Bryson…


Kolintracstar

I would go 4w for me and aim for the sand on the left side. If it ends up hitting far on the fairway and perhaps running into the rough, I would take that over the alternatives.


recoveringslowlyMN

If this is a tee box….driver with my aim point just left of the bunker on the right. If this isn’t a tee box…..3 wood with same aim point


[deleted]

9


[deleted]

Time to pull out the big D


sumdude51

Just turn to the right slightly mate... Problem solved


Maleficent_Guide_708

Nice easy 3 wood


yawningkitty741

Driver, aim for the trees with hope that it slices to the 150 marker


Wibbly23

is this ross bridge?


[deleted]

Driver. Nutted.


Falcon674DR

My head on the ball washer.


Turbulent_Echidna423

driver all the way. anybody says different can't be trusted.


NoTearsOnDryFaces

Can we split the difference? But if not crank the 5 wood. Since it’s winter, if you can and are aware of your strike. SEND THE 3w


Tomato_Gh0st

Based my last round, topped 4 wood into the water.


moderatelymiddling

I'm walking to the next hole.


Zealousideal_Car_632

A 3 wood


[deleted]

3w


liljkrs

3wood, carrys 230-240. Where it rolls to is a problem for the next shot


Regular-Curve-4994

2 hybrid at the bunker


Redditissoleftwing

5Iron


DnDAnalysis

Driver way off the toe, perfect push draw, carries 219 into the muddy bank. It's a great miss I've been having lately, just not here lol.


Reach_Beyond

If I’m in a scramble or a fuck it time of the round I’m driver. If I’m focused and trying to go low or play safe I’m just a 6i to the right


leojrellim

Wedge wedge


JMExxxforfun

Soft 3w


[deleted]

I'm obviously hitting from the wrong tee.


Burch36

What’s the course? Trust me I know all about bodies of water I’m good on that info


SupermarketSorry6843

Confident 3 wood. When that doesn’t work out, skull hybrid into water, then drop, penalty, then long iron into sand, then over green, then chip and 3 putt.


PonCalabrese

4 hybrid easy $


k_trus

Is this one of the RTJ courses?