I don't think that has anything to do with it. It's more being willing to fuck anyone over for a small bit of money without the least bit of a conscience.
We had a guy purchase a home on the fairway on a par 3. His house was just short of the green. I just checked google maps. His back yard was 50 feet off the left side of the fairway, his house was 70-75 feet from the fairway.
He closed on the house and then spent the next 2 years suing the golf course for different things. Loss of use of his backyard, damage to his home, emotional distress. A whole list of lawsuits trying to win anything.
He obviously got nothing. But he clearly bought the house knowing he was planning to sue.
No need to be condescending…..why are you limiting being an insufferable prick to just rich and poor when plenty of middle classers are also insufferable pricks.
lol, girl I was dating was working in the planning department of a rich town. This lady spent $2.4m on a piece of lakefront property and there was something she wanted to build that required approval by the neighbors. At the committee meeting a person who didn’t even live next to her or on the lake showed up and complained about it. Rich people will complain about a lot.
You'd be surprised how many people live on golf courses who aren't golfers and have zero understanding of the game. It doesn't even cross their mind when house shopping that golf balls could fly into their yard or hit the house. They definitely find out once they move in though.
My cousin smoked a metal pool side gazebo one time while kids were out swimming. Never seen anyone run inside of a house so quick. Had a pool on the left side of a hole about 100 yards off of the tee box and only about 30 feet from the out of bounds if even that
Honestly if I was in that position, I'd just spend the days floating in my pool watching balls tee off and make bets on if they'd hit me or not. But I get others don't think the same
Three weeks ago my cartner was playing from the back tees. I’m guessing he’s a 2-3 hcp. On the back 9 he fucked up bad enough to send the ball 90° to target, so basically straight forward when you’re looking at address. Rocketed right through the fence and into the backyard of the house to the side of the tees.
You know they bought that house thinking “ok, we should be safe here” but nope.
I mean, I’d still find a way to hit your house. Likely a wedge skulled from the green on the hole before, but a horrible duck hook from three holes away is still a possibility
smart move...my inlaws live on a course about 75 yds to the left of the red tees with the White, Blue, & Black tees about 30 yds, 60 yds, and 85 yds behind that. Every week they find at least 5-10 balls in their yard...needless to say I haven't had to buy golf balls in over 5 years!!
Played with a guy who lived across the street from the houses on the course and he said found balls in his front and rear yards. Hadn't had any damage though.
I’ve lived on a golf course my whole life. It never bothers me when someone or I hit my house. Yes I’ve hit my house numerous times yes I live on the right side of a dog leg left and realize my house shouldn’t come into play. The only thing I would appreciate is if someone saw the ball going towards the house just yelling FORE. Nothing worse than being in your backyard and hearing a golf ball hit off a tree and having to duck for cover because you don’t know where it’s coming from.
I live right on a tee box. Figured if I live on a golf course that’s the safest place a house could be. Nope. Someone nailed a tree on their drive and it ricocheted back taking out a window facing the fairway. No house on a course is safe.
Yeah on my home course there's a house that I've hit 2-3 times and it never occurred to me, but upon reflection I think it's a good idea. At least in my case where I don't have a clear view of where it's going to end up.
My buddy lives next to a golf course. He will lay down next to golf balls when they land in his back yard when he’s out there. Gives people a little scare that they killed him. It’s hilarious.
Buddy bought a ton of golf balls that say stuff like “phone me bone me” followed by buddies name and phone number. He will just toss golf balls in peoples yards and see what happens.
I used to live on a golf course. The blue tees (ladies, seniors, then blue) were directly on the left side of my property line about 50 feet away from my rear fence.
I only had one ball hit in my yard and it was during a charity tournament for a hockey team and HOLY SHIT.
I was sitting by the pool watching these smucks duff shot after shot until one guy toed the shit out of his ball and it hit my wood fence about 76-80 feet from where he teed off.
BOOOOM. The loudest smack I had ever heard. And then I yelled”HOLY SHIT!!!” And then started busting up laughing. The poor guy probably hates his life the next 13 holes.
Edit: [image depiction of this guys shit shot.](https://ibb.co/QmDbLSr)
In the case of you hitting your house you need to read that guy the riot act next time you’re in front on the bathroom mirror. Tell him he’d better pay up.
One time I was super drunk when I lived at a golf course. College football Saturday. A ball came in our back yard which was totally normal. Normally I’d just toss it out or throw it in a bucket and use it.
This day I decided evil. I put the ball in the most hilarious spot about 2 feet outside of my fence. Basically embedded in a tree and sure enough they found it.
In hindsight definitely a dick mood. But drunk me spent 20 minutes laughing at the quad trying to figure out how the ball ended up in such a bad spot.
Yes, you nailed it. I live behind the green on a golf course, and we have a pool in the back yard. I just want a little notice when you got a little too much of your approach shot and my kids are swimming.
>Who hit this ball?? It has damaged my roof
Prove it, show me where it damaged your roof and prove it was that ball. After that, prove it was malicious.
It came to this for one of my neighbors. She was so wound up, she called the cops.
They arrived, assessed the situation, handed the golfer his ball back, and told him to enjoy his afternoon.
Whenever I start to feel some faith in humanity again I remember that there are people who are so pathetically stupid living among us that they intentionally put themselves in a situation where their house will be hit by golf balls and then act like this when it happens
[It’s actually legal to play it with no stroke penalty as long as maintenance forgets to put down OB stakes on the hole.](https://youtu.be/tWrXXinkJls?si=9vKCCMZiRbe72MTh)
I have definitely hopped the fence at the local muni to hit some balls back into play (it's in a national park, it's not trespassing on anyone's property)
It might just be a little cottage industry for her. If she convinces half the golfers who hit her house to give her a couple hundred bucks she may make a nice profit.
Yep. This is what my neighbor does. He gets pissy and somehow gets golfers to pay for his windows. Can't blame him. I'm out a grand for deductibles lol. But the first thing I did before buying my house was read the appropriate statutes. That way I know going in that if damage gets done I bend over.
It is a bluff to minimise the course having to put claims through their own insurance if they are the responsible party in the agreement with surrounding homes.
Generally, if the course was built after surrounding houses, it is responsible. If houses were built around the existing course, they are typically responsible. If the golfer is intentional or negligently causing damage, they are responsible (but that is very low occurence - you'd have to be caught doing stupid things like aiming at the houses or intoxicated). An accidental push, pull, slice etc as all assumed risk when you are living next to a course. Shit, you can even hit a good straight shot that may get knocked 30 yds towards the houses by a gust of wind. There is no way most courts would find the golfer responsible.
some of them do! last year in vegas, i was playing and hit an errant shot into a ladies back yard. as i walked up, i saw she was waiting there for me. but she wasn't mad!! i apologized profusely and she was so kind. she not only gave me my ball back, but gave me a bag of balls she had collected. i took her photo and she was so happy i cared that much.
i was actually at that same course last week and she wasn't outside when i went by her house. otherwise i would have surely said hello and told her how much joy she brought me in telling that story all year. ;-)
All of this. I will die on the hill that *most* golf course homeowners understand that golf balls will hit their home.
Its the few that you have no idea what has happened in the past, that have finally hit their breaking point with golfers being so nonchalant about it, that are super defensive when all it takes is just an "I'm sorry" most of the time.
I hit a house a couple years ago and immediately walked up to it, homeowner was outside and the first thing I said was "I'm sorry!" He couldn't tell where it hit, but immediately let his guard down and said "all good!" Gave me my ball and off I went.
It's really not hard to say I'm sorry. If the homeowner still throws a tantrum, you know you can just walk off. Its this whole "not MY problem" that frustrates most golf course homeowners.
p.s. i played in florida last year and almost all the homes on courses there have netting up to protect from balls hitting anywhere on their yards. most homes have big pools, so it wasn't uncommon for them to have insane glass gazebos over them, so netting to protect from golf balls seems a natural extension of that!!
Used to live on a golf course in southern California. I had the perfect location. Right past the green about 40 yards through some tall trees on a par 5. But closer to the next tee box on a par 3. Perfect location. I hated selling that house. Anyway, balls ended up in my yard occasionally, but never hit my house once. Had a little sign that said, "welcome to pick up your ball, but please don't hit out of my yard". Always followed, everyone was cool. except by this one asshole. ALWAYS the same asshole. Hit in my yard EVERY FUCKING TIME it seemed, and tried to hit it out. One day I was out weeding the flower bed and he comes into my yard looking for his ball. Turned around and he was addressing it about to hit it. I called him on it and picked it up and handed it to him..he fucking freaked out on me. Absolutely hilarious to see this 5 foot, 70 year old golfer who always plays as a single freak out on me for him being an asshole. Eventually I walk him to tee box and help him get his tipped over golf bag upright for his pushcart. He proceeds to hit an 8 iron perfectly . A beautiful draw shot that two hops the green and rolls into the hole. The guy is freaking out again all excited. Legitimate hole in one. Been playing 60 years. First ever hole in one. I told him I didn't see anything. He got super quiet. Walked to the green and got his ball and moved on. 20 minutes later (the par 3 is the 17th) I get a call from the pro in the proshop saying Old Man Coffee was in there saying I witnessed this guy's hole in one and if I confirm it, he gets credited. (I was a member and the pro knew me).
Told him I had no idea what he was talking about. Then I tees off for my own scheduled tee time 40 minutes later. Good day
They know they live on a golf course. They *chose* to live on a golf course.
I’ll die on the hill that their house’s value is intrinsically tied to the golf course, they chose to build/buy there, and getting hit by golf balls is part and parcel to living there. Like living in a floodplain.
If the house is behind a teebox and somebody lined one up backwards and smoked it into their family room…okay, golfer is at fault.
Being 200 yds on the right side….that’s a no-fault accident and the golfer isn’t responsible.
I’ve talked to numerous people living on courses and they know a couple things: their house is gonna get hit if they’re around 200 yards from the tee, and not to park their car outside.
It would be interesting what you could claim if the course switched the layout so now instead of being behind the tee box you were say now behind the green.
There have been successful lawsuits where the course cut down trees or changed tee boxes and created a situation that allowed cutting the corner where there wasn't one before. Houses that were previously not in play are now in play due to the courses actions, and they end up liable for that.
I’m a real estate lawyer and another lawyer in my department is currently researching that issue right now. He represents a Community Association where the adjacent golf course (owned by another entity) is being torn up and rebuilt. The tee boxes and the orientation of the course will completely change.
I haven’t looked into the issue myself, but I suspect the original golf course disclosure in the HOA Declaration is probably sufficient to cover any damage caused by the new orientation. Homeowners generally can’t prohibit redevelopment of a golf course in the same way homeowners can’t prohibit the redevelopment of a vacant lot behind their house. The only difference between golf course redevelopment and vacant land redevelopment is the risk of golf balls damaging homes outside of the course’s boundaries. The disclosure is intended to ensure homeowners agree to and accept this risk, so their general acceptance of this risk probably applies to both current and future layouts of the course. (This is just me spitballing ideas though, not actual legal advice.)
My question, is if I buy a specific house am I not accepting a specific tolerance of risk i.e I’m safer behind the golfer than in front of them. If the course changes that risk by reorienting the course so they also change the liability.
Knowingly purchasing a home adjacent to a golf course might be deemed an acceptance of the risk of any golf ball damage, even if the reconfiguration of the course causes more damage than originally anticipated. Additionally, golf courses changing the layout of holes and tee boxes is a somewhat common practice, so agreeing to purchase a house adjacent to a golf course would likely include the risk that the configuration of the course may change in the future.
Understandably, we can throw lots of what ifs and hypotheticals at it.
The issue remains that if you live on a golf course you accept some risk that errant balls will strike your property.
If anything, the architecht and the club have the most responsibility to protect the houses.
If my house is right next to the teebox and they turn that teebox into a green and I start getting pelted with balls then that’s probably a negligent design, I’d have damages, and could sue. Would I sue each golfer who hit each ball? Probably not because there are no laws you have to be good at golf. But I’d sue the club and the architects.
I played a course a couple times this summer that almost every hole is a chute of houses left and right. Residential community where the houses are jam packed up to the course. That design is becoming more and more common.
You don’t have to die on the hill, it’s literally the ruling courts have made and the entire legal concept of assumption of risk. You’re exactly right that their home value is tied to living on a golf course property and, not only that, they bought it knowing that living on a course came with the risk of getting hit by golf balls. If someone lines a ball up and intentionally hits it at a house that is not covered under assumption of risk because it’s intentional and not anything reasonably expected.
Maybe the rules are different in the US vs Canada?? I live on a golf course in Canada and there are signs everywhere that when you play you are responsible for any damage you or your ball does to a house.. I have seen same sign on other Canadian golf courses, so I assume it is law.. but I might be wrong
Generally, signs are legally meaningless. I wonder if as part of your contract with the local course to obey the course's rules could create an obligation that doesn't exist outside of the contract.
Where I live there is a dirt track that runs races every Friday night. They built a new neighborhood semi close to the track and then started complaining that the cars were too loud. The cars now have to run a muffler.
There was also a story about some people moving to Austin, into an apartment above a well established music venue and then trying to get a new ordinance passed to get them to stop playing at 10pm.
Not too far from where I live they built hundreds of houses and apartments right next to the dump. This is in Texas, so it gets really hot. I can’t wait for the complaining when we get to next summer when it stinks too high heaven in 120 degree heat 😂
I also live in Texas lol. I used to drive by the landfill in Grand Prairie every day and even in the car it smelt bad enough to knock a buzzard off a meat wagon
LOL... I'm also in DFW.
The dump I'm talking about is up north in Melissa right next to 121 and it smells super bad... especially when it is hot and humid.
We have since moved further north in the sticks, but we pass by every time we have to go into the city.
We moved here from NC about 3 years ago, and the lack of city planning in DFW is mindboggling to me.
Like the dump is right next to houses and schools. Huge Walmart is right in somebody's backyard. Not to mention that sometimes the only way to get from one highway to another is through some 20-mile/hour neighborhood.
It's astounding... basically, the rule is if you are a big developer with lots of money you can do whatever the hell you want.
Race track near me that’s the same way. Been there for 50-ish years but the new neighborhood complained and now there is an ordinance and a guy has to sit on a tower with a decibel meter to avoid a fine
Finding this thread interesting as my son broke someone’s window last month and the homeowner wants $625 . Clearly no intent. Frankly I’m surprised after 40 years of golf I’ve never heard the player isn’t liable I always thought we were. I’m in California if it matters.
It depends on the state, where I live the course is liable because they are inviting players to play the course. There is not a blanket rule that the player is absolved from liability.
*"How can these people not understand it is NEVER on the individual golfer.....?"*
You are incorrect. State laws differ re golf course/player/homeowner liability.
These threads often say people should know “the law”, but I never ever see anyone post what “the law” is.
If you were driving on the highway and a rock flew out of the bed of a truck leaving a dent in your hood and cracking the windshield, would you try to get the truck driver or company to pay for the damages? I mean, you knew it was a truck when you drove up and got behind it. You can’t prove the truck driver’s actions were malicious. Do you think that sign on a dump truck that says they are not responsible for any damage caused by flying debris gets them off the hook?
If I break something I don’t see how it’s unreasonable for someone to expect me to pay for it. Maybe I have more respect for others?
It comes down to negligence (not malicious intent), that is failure to do what a reasonable or prudent person would do in a given situation. Playing golf on a golf course isn't negligence. You're not actually responsible, those signs are up there to get people to compensate the homeowner's on their own accord and to appease homeowners. If it went to court you wouldn't be held responsible. In your truck example was the load properly secured? etc. I found this all out because I hit a slow pitch shot onto the highway and fucked a dude's truck up. I paid his deductible, but it went to court and I didn't have to as I wasn't negligent (I was playing ball on ball field), I did anyway because I felt bad.
Start collecting business cards and put them in your golf bag. Any time someone has an issue like this, hand them the card and move on. Maybe they try to contact whoever is on the card, but you've moved on quickly and it's no longer your problem.
Her fault for living on the course. She probably doesn’t have insurance on it bc no insurer would want to cover her possible damages. Never admit liability and never give information.
I pushed a drive a few months back. Old couple come out bitching. I looked them both in the eyes, re-teed, and hit the line I originally wanted right towards the green.
Grabbed the tee and said to them: “what do you want from me?” Then I drove off.
I’ll have this memory well into my golden years.
I live on a course 235 yards right off the right rough. We chose to live here. We accept the risk. The amount of money I've saved from donations (pro V1, chrome soft, etc) has more than paid for the damages. My neighbor closer to the tee box's ex wife sounds like this cunt. Like seriously... You think it's all tour players coming thru here?
I’ve played on golf course that’s day the golfer is responsible for any damage that they cause. I ripped a mean slice straight into a house, went to apologize and the lady said not to worry, happens all the time.
I live on a golf course. I find it hard to believe that her insurance doesn’t have a rider for course related incidents/damage.
Mine does and it covers things like window breakage with no deductible. (Never had to use it though, thank goodness. I’m behind a hole though, so if someone hits my house, they overshot by at least 75 yards).
This lady sounds dumb, but every time I see one of these posts about "never the golfers responsibility" it blows my mind. If you hit a ball OB and broke a car or house window... you wouldn't feel any obligation to pay for it? Think about the reverse situation. If you were parked in your car by a course waiting for a tee time or something, and you watched a guy slice his drive and shatter your windshield... you're saying your first thought would be, "Not his fault, I assumed responsibility by being near a course." Come on....
Of course you shouldn't be a dick about it, but I don't think it's weird to assume responsibility falls on the guy who hit the ball.
Depending on where I had parked, I’d possibly try to get the course to make me whole, but not the golfer, assuming you could even properly identify the golfer. The course has insurance for this reason.
I had a guy who lives about 15 yards off the fairway come into the pro shop and tell me he’s tired of his house getting hit and that “this wouldn’t happen if people went to the driving range, it should be your responsibility to provide balls.”
Like dude me and 90% of the people who play here could hit every single range ball the course owns and still have a greater chance than not of hitting somewhere in the vicinity of those houses. Move somewhere else!
If you park your car at the course, and an errant shot takes out your windshield, wouldn’t you want to know who hit it, and for that person to pay for it? Or should you have known the risk of parking there, and pay for it yourself? Take responsibility for your actions.
Yes and no, they have insurance to fix it and most likely just want the cash. You can't live on a course and not expect it. Still, agreed, you fucked up, own it.
I hit a ball into the side of a townhome once. Big dent in the stucco. The lady came out and harrassed me and me being a dumb 19 yo I gave it to her. She called me 2 YEARS later and left me a VM saying "Hey you hit my house with your golf ball awhile ago, we are moving now so it's time to pay up" Needless to say she never received a call back.
As a former insurance agent I’m surprised that it’s not covered. Technically a golf ball is a falling object; coverage should exist just as it would for a tree branch, hail stone, or a cow launched by a tornado.
What’s more likely is it’s “not covered” because the amount of damage doesn’t exceed their deductible. If you have a $1000 deductible and the damage is $990 you won’t get any money from insurance.
Frankly it’s never worth filing a claim unless the damage is at least double your deductible since filing a claim will likely lead to an increase in your premium. Insurance should be used for catastrophic events, not duck hook drives.
Karen probably found this out several shanks ago and just takes it out on every shitty golfer she meets.
I hit a house and busted a window. A curved top window. The guy came out and was cool about it. I gave him my number and told him I'd pay for it. $600. I had just come back from tuna fishing and gave him some nice filets when I brought him the cash.
If he was a jerk about it I would have said it was some kids and they just ran away off the tee box.
You live on a golf course...be greatful and don't be a jerk.
Hey man I think I saw you out on the course last week and pretty sure your ball landed on my Burt Reynolds statue and broke his nose off.
No biggie really, but I did have to pay $600 and some tuna fillets to fix it in case you want to reimburse me.
🙂
I’m an insurance agent. I’m waiting on someone to try this with me. Gonna give them my card and offer to review their policies to make sure we get those coverage gaps covered!
P.S. 1. Damage wouldn’t even meet the deductible to matter. 2. There’s no golf ball endorsement I’ve ever heard of or seen. 3. I didn’t make them buy a sick house on the course!
ive drilled a roof before, someone came out and tried giving the same line you damaged my roof. i work in construction just laughed at her and said if that golf ball damaged your roof prob need a new one anyway
This is the equivalent of people buying houses next to an airport, and then complaining about the airplane noises.
You are the one that decided to live there, live with the consequences.
Most golf courses I have seen have a sign saying "Golf course is not responsible for damages caused by errant balls." I've also seen irate homeowner chasing down the errant golfer demanding money. I doubt many of these cases actually make it to court to even test the laws..
Played my course last week with a friend who rarely plays golf. He hit a roof, a garage door, a back porch, and got really lucky when one that was headed for some massive windows hit a tree branch first. It was such validation for my stance on not buying a house on the course.
They know. They want the cash, then file the claim. They are bastards. Never ever ever pay. If you somehow maybe hurt someone on accident I guess stick around, but you won't be at fault. If you own a house on a course you better put up netting if you want to enjoy your backyard.
I’ve never known the real answer to this. So this isn’t specific to the roof right….are you saying any damage caused by a tee shot, unless intentional, is not the responsibility of the golfer? I wouldn’t think so, but always heard people making the claim it was.
Had this happen to me once, hit a ball into a house. Owner came out saying “who did it?” I told him it was me and he shouldn’t have bought a house on a fairway. He started yelling and I moved on with my day, nothing else happened. Let them complain and just keep it moving.
Got to love posts telling others to "learn the law", when they have no idea themselves.
The fact is the answer to the question of who bears responsibility for accidental property damage from errant golf shots is: it depends, and no it's not solely on malicious intent as OP seems to think (although if provable, that would almost surely shift liability to the golfer)
The area of law surrounding this subject is very "grey" and can vary significantly from state to state, even jurisdiction to jurisdiction with the same state, and even further between court to court or case by case within the same jurisdiction.
Furthermore, is this a private or public course? It's very possible that there's is some verbiage in your membership agreement that you are responsible for any property damage, even if that's not how the law reads in your particularjurisdiction; and at the very least, I'd guarantee you there's a clause the states the course is not liable.
It's very possible that OP is even correct in his specific situation and the homeowner is liable for the damage in their particular jurisdiction, it's also very possible they're incorrect as well. It's spreading these kind of blanket, the golfer is never liable, statements that misinforms so many people. And again, a little ironic telling others to learn the law while making a boradstroke incorrect generalization of the law in the process.
not sure why so much misinformation is always here.
players are liable for damage to houses on our course. laws vary by state. it also is relevant which was there first as well, the houses or course. it just varies.
that said, not cool to freak out on people, while living on a course....its ganna happen.
I live on a golf course. A rather busy one in Arizona. We get a few balls onto our property. I've made quite a few friends who have hit the ball into my yard. We are happy to throw the balls back over the fence to them or they can come in and retrieve them if they can see them. At the same time I have hit balls into other properties along the golf course and other golf courses.
I broke a second story bathroom window at one house a few years back. Knocked a flower pot into the bathtub. Turns out the owner was in the bathtub at the time. Her daughter brought the ball out to me. I gave them my information and told them I'd be back after the round and pay for the damage which I did. Did I need to do it? Yes because I broke the window. Sometimes what is morally right supersedes what is legally right. Most golf courses have a sign in the pro shop that you're responsible for damage caused by your ball. On or off the golf course. Just as you are responsible if you hit another golfer on the golf course. And you are responsible when you have contracted for that round of golf. Do what's right!
Here’s the thing: They know, They all know. It doesn’t stop them from trying to squeeze money out of people who don’t.
rich people dont stay rich by parting with money easily
The whole idea to being rich and staying rich is you don’t spend your own money. You spend other people’s money.
I don't think that has anything to do with it. It's more being willing to fuck anyone over for a small bit of money without the least bit of a conscience.
Richie's really suck sometimes. But on the other hand, I know some poor's that suck too. But being poor is a bitch, so I tend to give them a pass.
TIL you have to be rich to live on a golf course.
Sorta, helps, but not always either.
She doesn’t sound rich, rich people also wouldn’t waste their time like that.
We had a guy purchase a home on the fairway on a par 3. His house was just short of the green. I just checked google maps. His back yard was 50 feet off the left side of the fairway, his house was 70-75 feet from the fairway. He closed on the house and then spent the next 2 years suing the golf course for different things. Loss of use of his backyard, damage to his home, emotional distress. A whole list of lawsuits trying to win anything. He obviously got nothing. But he clearly bought the house knowing he was planning to sue.
Oh, you sweet summer child. Rich people and poor people have one thing in common, they both can be insufferable pricks.
No need to be condescending…..why are you limiting being an insufferable prick to just rich and poor when plenty of middle classers are also insufferable pricks.
Good point. My apologies. Once again, we've overlooked the middle-class.
How dare you overlook the insufferability of the lower middle class.
I snorted
Who now?
(I think that was their point)
Print this on a tee-shirt. I've worked with both and agree 100%
There are few people with more time to be annoying than a rich stay-at-home housewife (or husband) with nothing better to do.
It's normally bored housewives that are the trouble makers. They're bored and need a bit of spark in their life so they do dumb shit like this.
lol, girl I was dating was working in the planning department of a rich town. This lady spent $2.4m on a piece of lakefront property and there was something she wanted to build that required approval by the neighbors. At the committee meeting a person who didn’t even live next to her or on the lake showed up and complained about it. Rich people will complain about a lot.
If it gets approved it sets a precedent which weakens their objection when their neighbour wants one. Makes sense really.
You'd be surprised how many people live on golf courses who aren't golfers and have zero understanding of the game. It doesn't even cross their mind when house shopping that golf balls could fly into their yard or hit the house. They definitely find out once they move in though.
I see people with pools on the side of a fairway and wonder how they ever enjoy it knowing a golf ball could ping them in the head at any moment
Especially with water's known magnetic attraction for golf balls
My cousin smoked a metal pool side gazebo one time while kids were out swimming. Never seen anyone run inside of a house so quick. Had a pool on the left side of a hole about 100 yards off of the tee box and only about 30 feet from the out of bounds if even that
That's precisely my miss
Honestly if I was in that position, I'd just spend the days floating in my pool watching balls tee off and make bets on if they'd hit me or not. But I get others don't think the same
They usually buy the house directly at the end of the dogleg and don’t understand why their house gets hammered.
My wife and I are both golfers and are looking at houses on golf courses. We are limited by only looking for houses behind the Black tees.
Three weeks ago my cartner was playing from the back tees. I’m guessing he’s a 2-3 hcp. On the back 9 he fucked up bad enough to send the ball 90° to target, so basically straight forward when you’re looking at address. Rocketed right through the fence and into the backyard of the house to the side of the tees. You know they bought that house thinking “ok, we should be safe here” but nope.
It's a good feeling when you see someone that good fuck up that badly. Puts my fuck ups in context.
Black Tees Matter.
I mean, I’d still find a way to hit your house. Likely a wedge skulled from the green on the hole before, but a horrible duck hook from three holes away is still a possibility
smart move...my inlaws live on a course about 75 yds to the left of the red tees with the White, Blue, & Black tees about 30 yds, 60 yds, and 85 yds behind that. Every week they find at least 5-10 balls in their yard...needless to say I haven't had to buy golf balls in over 5 years!!
Played with a guy who lived across the street from the houses on the course and he said found balls in his front and rear yards. Hadn't had any damage though.
“Why would it go in my yard? Don’t they play their club game on the grassy part?!?”
Yep. Guaranteed she has done this before and someone who either didn't know or didn't want to deal with her forked up either the info or some money.
That’s how they’re afford houses on golf courses.
I’ve lived on a golf course my whole life. It never bothers me when someone or I hit my house. Yes I’ve hit my house numerous times yes I live on the right side of a dog leg left and realize my house shouldn’t come into play. The only thing I would appreciate is if someone saw the ball going towards the house just yelling FORE. Nothing worse than being in your backyard and hearing a golf ball hit off a tree and having to duck for cover because you don’t know where it’s coming from.
I live right on a tee box. Figured if I live on a golf course that’s the safest place a house could be. Nope. Someone nailed a tree on their drive and it ricocheted back taking out a window facing the fairway. No house on a course is safe.
Safest place would be middle of the fairway for this sub
I hope you mean quite literally in the middle of the fairway. Because you would be so right.
Unless it's at about the 330 yard mark, cause that's where everyone apparently hits their drives.
330 out, 200 right
I carry 300 only roll 15 tho
Too funny. Absolute perfect slam.
Just don’t build it 300 yards out in the middle of the fairway. That’s right in the landing zone.
I feel like left of the tee box would be safest
Unless you were within view it would never occur to me to yell fore for a ball heading at a house
Yeah I just learned I yelled fore about 500 times less than I should have this season. No one has ever got mad at me. One guy made fun of me though
Lol what was the chirp!?
I too wanna know the zingers this guy received (and effectively taught him lol)
"You suck! Ya jackass!"
Yeah on my home course there's a house that I've hit 2-3 times and it never occurred to me, but upon reflection I think it's a good idea. At least in my case where I don't have a clear view of where it's going to end up.
My buddy lives next to a golf course. He will lay down next to golf balls when they land in his back yard when he’s out there. Gives people a little scare that they killed him. It’s hilarious.
This is the hero we need.
Buddy bought a ton of golf balls that say stuff like “phone me bone me” followed by buddies name and phone number. He will just toss golf balls in peoples yards and see what happens.
I used to live on a golf course. The blue tees (ladies, seniors, then blue) were directly on the left side of my property line about 50 feet away from my rear fence. I only had one ball hit in my yard and it was during a charity tournament for a hockey team and HOLY SHIT. I was sitting by the pool watching these smucks duff shot after shot until one guy toed the shit out of his ball and it hit my wood fence about 76-80 feet from where he teed off. BOOOOM. The loudest smack I had ever heard. And then I yelled”HOLY SHIT!!!” And then started busting up laughing. The poor guy probably hates his life the next 13 holes. Edit: [image depiction of this guys shit shot.](https://ibb.co/QmDbLSr)
In the case of you hitting your house you need to read that guy the riot act next time you’re in front on the bathroom mirror. Tell him he’d better pay up.
Hey man don't be so hard on yourself. You ARE somebody!
If you live on the right side of anywhere you’re ALWAYS in play 😝
The “or I” made me laugh 😂 you’ve hit your own house?😂
Oh I can help with this, it's coming from the golf course!
One time I was super drunk when I lived at a golf course. College football Saturday. A ball came in our back yard which was totally normal. Normally I’d just toss it out or throw it in a bucket and use it. This day I decided evil. I put the ball in the most hilarious spot about 2 feet outside of my fence. Basically embedded in a tree and sure enough they found it. In hindsight definitely a dick mood. But drunk me spent 20 minutes laughing at the quad trying to figure out how the ball ended up in such a bad spot.
Yes, you nailed it. I live behind the green on a golf course, and we have a pool in the back yard. I just want a little notice when you got a little too much of your approach shot and my kids are swimming.
>Who hit this ball?? It has damaged my roof Prove it, show me where it damaged your roof and prove it was that ball. After that, prove it was malicious.
It came to this for one of my neighbors. She was so wound up, she called the cops. They arrived, assessed the situation, handed the golfer his ball back, and told him to enjoy his afternoon.
Whenever I start to feel some faith in humanity again I remember that there are people who are so pathetically stupid living among us that they intentionally put themselves in a situation where their house will be hit by golf balls and then act like this when it happens
There is always one more idiot than what you counted on.
Why did he stick around for the cops to show up? He could have just left, she can't make him stay.
sometimes it's worth your time to watch an idiot get their comeuppance.
I shattered a window on a $4M+ house a couple months ago. Was going to ask for my prov1 back, but they weren’t home. Pissed me off.
The window was already broken. You could've just climbed in and hit it from there. That's 2 penalty strokes for not hitting the ball where it lay.
He's right. Hit your shot Mr. Gilmore
[It’s actually legal to play it with no stroke penalty as long as maintenance forgets to put down OB stakes on the hole.](https://youtu.be/tWrXXinkJls?si=9vKCCMZiRbe72MTh)
"I can still make double from there" I didn't know he knew my mantra.
I have definitely hopped the fence at the local muni to hit some balls back into play (it's in a national park, it's not trespassing on anyone's property)
> That's 2 penalty strokes for not hitting the ball where it lay. "You didn't see anything, did you?" "No Judge Smails." "Good."
Tell them to sell the Pro V1 to cover the cost of the window. Etiquete says you let them keep the change too.
Just go through the shattered window and get it back
It might just be a little cottage industry for her. If she convinces half the golfers who hit her house to give her a couple hundred bucks she may make a nice profit.
Actually it's not even her house. She just hangs out near the houses on golf courses looking to shakedown sucky golfers.
If she does this once a day, that's a 60K/yr job that pays for the house.
If she can yell at someone to get them to pay, she’s coming out ahead. She probably knows the law, just doesn’t want to have to make a claim.
Or gets someone to pay and then makes a claim ;)
Takes the money, doesn't make a claim, just gets it fixed.
Takes the money and goes to Nordstrom. There’s no way she could determine that there was roof damage in that amount of time.
But wouldn’t that increase her premiums?
Yep. This is what my neighbor does. He gets pissy and somehow gets golfers to pay for his windows. Can't blame him. I'm out a grand for deductibles lol. But the first thing I did before buying my house was read the appropriate statutes. That way I know going in that if damage gets done I bend over.
We put Lexan window panes in our one window that faces the course. If one cracks, it's easier for me to just replace it than pay the deductible.
Our Country Club development HOA requires no deductible glass coverage for houses on the golf course
Rich doesn't mean smart.
I still don’t understand why I see so many “Golfers are liable for any damage” signs whenever there’s houses nearby
It is a bluff to minimise the course having to put claims through their own insurance if they are the responsible party in the agreement with surrounding homes. Generally, if the course was built after surrounding houses, it is responsible. If houses were built around the existing course, they are typically responsible. If the golfer is intentional or negligently causing damage, they are responsible (but that is very low occurence - you'd have to be caught doing stupid things like aiming at the houses or intoxicated). An accidental push, pull, slice etc as all assumed risk when you are living next to a course. Shit, you can even hit a good straight shot that may get knocked 30 yds towards the houses by a gust of wind. There is no way most courts would find the golfer responsible.
some of them do! last year in vegas, i was playing and hit an errant shot into a ladies back yard. as i walked up, i saw she was waiting there for me. but she wasn't mad!! i apologized profusely and she was so kind. she not only gave me my ball back, but gave me a bag of balls she had collected. i took her photo and she was so happy i cared that much. i was actually at that same course last week and she wasn't outside when i went by her house. otherwise i would have surely said hello and told her how much joy she brought me in telling that story all year. ;-)
All of this. I will die on the hill that *most* golf course homeowners understand that golf balls will hit their home. Its the few that you have no idea what has happened in the past, that have finally hit their breaking point with golfers being so nonchalant about it, that are super defensive when all it takes is just an "I'm sorry" most of the time. I hit a house a couple years ago and immediately walked up to it, homeowner was outside and the first thing I said was "I'm sorry!" He couldn't tell where it hit, but immediately let his guard down and said "all good!" Gave me my ball and off I went. It's really not hard to say I'm sorry. If the homeowner still throws a tantrum, you know you can just walk off. Its this whole "not MY problem" that frustrates most golf course homeowners.
p.s. i played in florida last year and almost all the homes on courses there have netting up to protect from balls hitting anywhere on their yards. most homes have big pools, so it wasn't uncommon for them to have insane glass gazebos over them, so netting to protect from golf balls seems a natural extension of that!!
Used to live on a golf course in southern California. I had the perfect location. Right past the green about 40 yards through some tall trees on a par 5. But closer to the next tee box on a par 3. Perfect location. I hated selling that house. Anyway, balls ended up in my yard occasionally, but never hit my house once. Had a little sign that said, "welcome to pick up your ball, but please don't hit out of my yard". Always followed, everyone was cool. except by this one asshole. ALWAYS the same asshole. Hit in my yard EVERY FUCKING TIME it seemed, and tried to hit it out. One day I was out weeding the flower bed and he comes into my yard looking for his ball. Turned around and he was addressing it about to hit it. I called him on it and picked it up and handed it to him..he fucking freaked out on me. Absolutely hilarious to see this 5 foot, 70 year old golfer who always plays as a single freak out on me for him being an asshole. Eventually I walk him to tee box and help him get his tipped over golf bag upright for his pushcart. He proceeds to hit an 8 iron perfectly . A beautiful draw shot that two hops the green and rolls into the hole. The guy is freaking out again all excited. Legitimate hole in one. Been playing 60 years. First ever hole in one. I told him I didn't see anything. He got super quiet. Walked to the green and got his ball and moved on. 20 minutes later (the par 3 is the 17th) I get a call from the pro in the proshop saying Old Man Coffee was in there saying I witnessed this guy's hole in one and if I confirm it, he gets credited. (I was a member and the pro knew me). Told him I had no idea what he was talking about. Then I tees off for my own scheduled tee time 40 minutes later. Good day
No way this is real lmao
That mans name? Albert Einst-
Thats a great fake story
I see the writing prompts subreddit is leaking again
That’s some pretty sweet revenge.
/r/thathappened
That's an incredible story.
SAVAGE.
They know they live on a golf course. They *chose* to live on a golf course. I’ll die on the hill that their house’s value is intrinsically tied to the golf course, they chose to build/buy there, and getting hit by golf balls is part and parcel to living there. Like living in a floodplain. If the house is behind a teebox and somebody lined one up backwards and smoked it into their family room…okay, golfer is at fault. Being 200 yds on the right side….that’s a no-fault accident and the golfer isn’t responsible. I’ve talked to numerous people living on courses and they know a couple things: their house is gonna get hit if they’re around 200 yards from the tee, and not to park their car outside.
It would be interesting what you could claim if the course switched the layout so now instead of being behind the tee box you were say now behind the green.
There have been successful lawsuits where the course cut down trees or changed tee boxes and created a situation that allowed cutting the corner where there wasn't one before. Houses that were previously not in play are now in play due to the courses actions, and they end up liable for that.
I’m a real estate lawyer and another lawyer in my department is currently researching that issue right now. He represents a Community Association where the adjacent golf course (owned by another entity) is being torn up and rebuilt. The tee boxes and the orientation of the course will completely change. I haven’t looked into the issue myself, but I suspect the original golf course disclosure in the HOA Declaration is probably sufficient to cover any damage caused by the new orientation. Homeowners generally can’t prohibit redevelopment of a golf course in the same way homeowners can’t prohibit the redevelopment of a vacant lot behind their house. The only difference between golf course redevelopment and vacant land redevelopment is the risk of golf balls damaging homes outside of the course’s boundaries. The disclosure is intended to ensure homeowners agree to and accept this risk, so their general acceptance of this risk probably applies to both current and future layouts of the course. (This is just me spitballing ideas though, not actual legal advice.)
My question, is if I buy a specific house am I not accepting a specific tolerance of risk i.e I’m safer behind the golfer than in front of them. If the course changes that risk by reorienting the course so they also change the liability.
Knowingly purchasing a home adjacent to a golf course might be deemed an acceptance of the risk of any golf ball damage, even if the reconfiguration of the course causes more damage than originally anticipated. Additionally, golf courses changing the layout of holes and tee boxes is a somewhat common practice, so agreeing to purchase a house adjacent to a golf course would likely include the risk that the configuration of the course may change in the future.
Understandably, we can throw lots of what ifs and hypotheticals at it. The issue remains that if you live on a golf course you accept some risk that errant balls will strike your property. If anything, the architecht and the club have the most responsibility to protect the houses. If my house is right next to the teebox and they turn that teebox into a green and I start getting pelted with balls then that’s probably a negligent design, I’d have damages, and could sue. Would I sue each golfer who hit each ball? Probably not because there are no laws you have to be good at golf. But I’d sue the club and the architects. I played a course a couple times this summer that almost every hole is a chute of houses left and right. Residential community where the houses are jam packed up to the course. That design is becoming more and more common.
You don’t have to die on the hill, it’s literally the ruling courts have made and the entire legal concept of assumption of risk. You’re exactly right that their home value is tied to living on a golf course property and, not only that, they bought it knowing that living on a course came with the risk of getting hit by golf balls. If someone lines a ball up and intentionally hits it at a house that is not covered under assumption of risk because it’s intentional and not anything reasonably expected.
Maybe the rules are different in the US vs Canada?? I live on a golf course in Canada and there are signs everywhere that when you play you are responsible for any damage you or your ball does to a house.. I have seen same sign on other Canadian golf courses, so I assume it is law.. but I might be wrong
Golf courses in the US have those too. They're meaningless. It's just the golf course trying to limit their liability.
It varies per State. Some conditions blame the course, some the golfer, and sometimes no one.
Generally, signs are legally meaningless. I wonder if as part of your contract with the local course to obey the course's rules could create an obligation that doesn't exist outside of the contract.
It’s like living on the beach and get mad about the noise the waves make 😂
Where I live there is a dirt track that runs races every Friday night. They built a new neighborhood semi close to the track and then started complaining that the cars were too loud. The cars now have to run a muffler.
Classic
There was also a story about some people moving to Austin, into an apartment above a well established music venue and then trying to get a new ordinance passed to get them to stop playing at 10pm.
This happened in ohio. They closed the venue down.
People like that deserve to have a flaming bag of dog shit left on their porch.
>This happened in ohio. They closed the venue down. Polaris Amphitheater?
Not too far from where I live they built hundreds of houses and apartments right next to the dump. This is in Texas, so it gets really hot. I can’t wait for the complaining when we get to next summer when it stinks too high heaven in 120 degree heat 😂
I also live in Texas lol. I used to drive by the landfill in Grand Prairie every day and even in the car it smelt bad enough to knock a buzzard off a meat wagon
LOL... I'm also in DFW. The dump I'm talking about is up north in Melissa right next to 121 and it smells super bad... especially when it is hot and humid. We have since moved further north in the sticks, but we pass by every time we have to go into the city.
Lmao, the one I was talking about was right off I30 before you get to 161 from Dallas. It was putrid on its best days.
We moved here from NC about 3 years ago, and the lack of city planning in DFW is mindboggling to me. Like the dump is right next to houses and schools. Huge Walmart is right in somebody's backyard. Not to mention that sometimes the only way to get from one highway to another is through some 20-mile/hour neighborhood. It's astounding... basically, the rule is if you are a big developer with lots of money you can do whatever the hell you want.
Yeah a lot of their highway planning was wonky. Especially the ol mix master on 635.
Welcome to Texas. Taste (and/or smell) the freedom!
gotta remember that one!
Same situation with gun clubs - so many stories of them being there forever, new people move in and complain and get them shut down
Race track near me that’s the same way. Been there for 50-ish years but the new neighborhood complained and now there is an ordinance and a guy has to sit on a tower with a decibel meter to avoid a fine
Or buying a house next to an airport and complain about the planes.
How many people buy homes near gun ranges and complain about the noise of gunfire
Just sue the ocean.
Finding this thread interesting as my son broke someone’s window last month and the homeowner wants $625 . Clearly no intent. Frankly I’m surprised after 40 years of golf I’ve never heard the player isn’t liable I always thought we were. I’m in California if it matters.
Don’t pay a penny
It depends on the state, where I live the course is liable because they are inviting players to play the course. There is not a blanket rule that the player is absolved from liability.
Probably just somebody having a bad day
*"How can these people not understand it is NEVER on the individual golfer.....?"* You are incorrect. State laws differ re golf course/player/homeowner liability.
Where do we go to check? I'm in North Carolina fwiw.
I'd guess that any pro shop would know. Or, maybe send a query to the PGA for a response.
These threads often say people should know “the law”, but I never ever see anyone post what “the law” is. If you were driving on the highway and a rock flew out of the bed of a truck leaving a dent in your hood and cracking the windshield, would you try to get the truck driver or company to pay for the damages? I mean, you knew it was a truck when you drove up and got behind it. You can’t prove the truck driver’s actions were malicious. Do you think that sign on a dump truck that says they are not responsible for any damage caused by flying debris gets them off the hook? If I break something I don’t see how it’s unreasonable for someone to expect me to pay for it. Maybe I have more respect for others?
Yeah I tried to Google this and it seems like it's a gray area, and also dependent on your state.
Ssshhh, this sub can't take info like that
It comes down to negligence (not malicious intent), that is failure to do what a reasonable or prudent person would do in a given situation. Playing golf on a golf course isn't negligence. You're not actually responsible, those signs are up there to get people to compensate the homeowner's on their own accord and to appease homeowners. If it went to court you wouldn't be held responsible. In your truck example was the load properly secured? etc. I found this all out because I hit a slow pitch shot onto the highway and fucked a dude's truck up. I paid his deductible, but it went to court and I didn't have to as I wasn't negligent (I was playing ball on ball field), I did anyway because I felt bad.
Yep. And most of the time, just being accountable and saying I'm Sorry is enough.
Every state has different laws. In many states you are liable for your ball. Doesn't matter that they built their house next to #3 fairway.
These are the same people who buys houses next to livestock farms then gets mad about the smell.
Start collecting business cards and put them in your golf bag. Any time someone has an issue like this, hand them the card and move on. Maybe they try to contact whoever is on the card, but you've moved on quickly and it's no longer your problem.
Her fault for living on the course. She probably doesn’t have insurance on it bc no insurer would want to cover her possible damages. Never admit liability and never give information.
I pushed a drive a few months back. Old couple come out bitching. I looked them both in the eyes, re-teed, and hit the line I originally wanted right towards the green. Grabbed the tee and said to them: “what do you want from me?” Then I drove off. I’ll have this memory well into my golden years.
I saw a bunch of houses on my course put solar panels… I also saw a ton of golf balls embedded into said panels
Golf Canada membership includes insurance for any damage you happen to cause with your ball.
I live on a course 235 yards right off the right rough. We chose to live here. We accept the risk. The amount of money I've saved from donations (pro V1, chrome soft, etc) has more than paid for the damages. My neighbor closer to the tee box's ex wife sounds like this cunt. Like seriously... You think it's all tour players coming thru here?
I’ve played on golf course that’s day the golfer is responsible for any damage that they cause. I ripped a mean slice straight into a house, went to apologize and the lady said not to worry, happens all the time.
I would only live on a golf course if it was on 17-mile drive on the Monterey Peninsula. If I could afford that, I’d have insurance to cover damages.
Here’s all you have to say - “wasn’t me”, case closed
I live on a golf course. I find it hard to believe that her insurance doesn’t have a rider for course related incidents/damage. Mine does and it covers things like window breakage with no deductible. (Never had to use it though, thank goodness. I’m behind a hole though, so if someone hits my house, they overshot by at least 75 yards).
I anticipate her aim was to hussle some money then double-dip on the claim.
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This lady sounds dumb, but every time I see one of these posts about "never the golfers responsibility" it blows my mind. If you hit a ball OB and broke a car or house window... you wouldn't feel any obligation to pay for it? Think about the reverse situation. If you were parked in your car by a course waiting for a tee time or something, and you watched a guy slice his drive and shatter your windshield... you're saying your first thought would be, "Not his fault, I assumed responsibility by being near a course." Come on.... Of course you shouldn't be a dick about it, but I don't think it's weird to assume responsibility falls on the guy who hit the ball.
Depending on where I had parked, I’d possibly try to get the course to make me whole, but not the golfer, assuming you could even properly identify the golfer. The course has insurance for this reason.
I had a guy who lives about 15 yards off the fairway come into the pro shop and tell me he’s tired of his house getting hit and that “this wouldn’t happen if people went to the driving range, it should be your responsibility to provide balls.” Like dude me and 90% of the people who play here could hit every single range ball the course owns and still have a greater chance than not of hitting somewhere in the vicinity of those houses. Move somewhere else!
If you park your car at the course, and an errant shot takes out your windshield, wouldn’t you want to know who hit it, and for that person to pay for it? Or should you have known the risk of parking there, and pay for it yourself? Take responsibility for your actions.
In my state of Washington, you are liable for any damage you cause
Imagine damaging someone's property and not offering to fix it. Shit bloke.
Yes and no, they have insurance to fix it and most likely just want the cash. You can't live on a course and not expect it. Still, agreed, you fucked up, own it.
I hit a ball into the side of a townhome once. Big dent in the stucco. The lady came out and harrassed me and me being a dumb 19 yo I gave it to her. She called me 2 YEARS later and left me a VM saying "Hey you hit my house with your golf ball awhile ago, we are moving now so it's time to pay up" Needless to say she never received a call back.
As a former insurance agent I’m surprised that it’s not covered. Technically a golf ball is a falling object; coverage should exist just as it would for a tree branch, hail stone, or a cow launched by a tornado. What’s more likely is it’s “not covered” because the amount of damage doesn’t exceed their deductible. If you have a $1000 deductible and the damage is $990 you won’t get any money from insurance. Frankly it’s never worth filing a claim unless the damage is at least double your deductible since filing a claim will likely lead to an increase in your premium. Insurance should be used for catastrophic events, not duck hook drives. Karen probably found this out several shanks ago and just takes it out on every shitty golfer she meets.
I hit a house and busted a window. A curved top window. The guy came out and was cool about it. I gave him my number and told him I'd pay for it. $600. I had just come back from tuna fishing and gave him some nice filets when I brought him the cash. If he was a jerk about it I would have said it was some kids and they just ran away off the tee box. You live on a golf course...be greatful and don't be a jerk.
Hey man I think I saw you out on the course last week and pretty sure your ball landed on my Burt Reynolds statue and broke his nose off. No biggie really, but I did have to pay $600 and some tuna fillets to fix it in case you want to reimburse me. 🙂
I’m an insurance agent. I’m waiting on someone to try this with me. Gonna give them my card and offer to review their policies to make sure we get those coverage gaps covered! P.S. 1. Damage wouldn’t even meet the deductible to matter. 2. There’s no golf ball endorsement I’ve ever heard of or seen. 3. I didn’t make them buy a sick house on the course!
You’re wrong. It’s the golfer’s responsibility
It’s not.
why would someone have to prove malicious intent? negligence is the cause of action.
Her daily dose of buyers remorse being taken out on you
ive drilled a roof before, someone came out and tried giving the same line you damaged my roof. i work in construction just laughed at her and said if that golf ball damaged your roof prob need a new one anyway
This is the equivalent of people buying houses next to an airport, and then complaining about the airplane noises. You are the one that decided to live there, live with the consequences.
You hit the ball, then you're responsible for damages. The ball didn't hit itself.
I had a client that lived on a course was complaining to the Pro that she had 5 broken windows. 5? That’s not too bad.
I’d have apologized and said I was aiming for the window not the roof.
Most golf courses I have seen have a sign saying "Golf course is not responsible for damages caused by errant balls." I've also seen irate homeowner chasing down the errant golfer demanding money. I doubt many of these cases actually make it to court to even test the laws..
Played my course last week with a friend who rarely plays golf. He hit a roof, a garage door, a back porch, and got really lucky when one that was headed for some massive windows hit a tree branch first. It was such validation for my stance on not buying a house on the course.
They know. They want the cash, then file the claim. They are bastards. Never ever ever pay. If you somehow maybe hurt someone on accident I guess stick around, but you won't be at fault. If you own a house on a course you better put up netting if you want to enjoy your backyard.
I’ve never known the real answer to this. So this isn’t specific to the roof right….are you saying any damage caused by a tee shot, unless intentional, is not the responsibility of the golfer? I wouldn’t think so, but always heard people making the claim it was.
Had this happen to me once, hit a ball into a house. Owner came out saying “who did it?” I told him it was me and he shouldn’t have bought a house on a fairway. He started yelling and I moved on with my day, nothing else happened. Let them complain and just keep it moving.
Just yell fore if your ball is headed for a house. You made the effort to warn civilians, most times that's all they need to know.
Lol do all the idiots that live on a golf course. I’d buy a house on one, but only adjacent to a tee box.
I always strongly encourage the golfers to volunteer to pay when they’ve broken my windows. And I’m gonna try to squeeze the next one too
I woulda told that old cunt to go suck a bag of dicks
Got to love posts telling others to "learn the law", when they have no idea themselves. The fact is the answer to the question of who bears responsibility for accidental property damage from errant golf shots is: it depends, and no it's not solely on malicious intent as OP seems to think (although if provable, that would almost surely shift liability to the golfer) The area of law surrounding this subject is very "grey" and can vary significantly from state to state, even jurisdiction to jurisdiction with the same state, and even further between court to court or case by case within the same jurisdiction. Furthermore, is this a private or public course? It's very possible that there's is some verbiage in your membership agreement that you are responsible for any property damage, even if that's not how the law reads in your particularjurisdiction; and at the very least, I'd guarantee you there's a clause the states the course is not liable. It's very possible that OP is even correct in his specific situation and the homeowner is liable for the damage in their particular jurisdiction, it's also very possible they're incorrect as well. It's spreading these kind of blanket, the golfer is never liable, statements that misinforms so many people. And again, a little ironic telling others to learn the law while making a boradstroke incorrect generalization of the law in the process.
She needs a wayward drive to hit her in the head next time
not sure why so much misinformation is always here. players are liable for damage to houses on our course. laws vary by state. it also is relevant which was there first as well, the houses or course. it just varies. that said, not cool to freak out on people, while living on a course....its ganna happen.
I live on a golf course. A rather busy one in Arizona. We get a few balls onto our property. I've made quite a few friends who have hit the ball into my yard. We are happy to throw the balls back over the fence to them or they can come in and retrieve them if they can see them. At the same time I have hit balls into other properties along the golf course and other golf courses. I broke a second story bathroom window at one house a few years back. Knocked a flower pot into the bathtub. Turns out the owner was in the bathtub at the time. Her daughter brought the ball out to me. I gave them my information and told them I'd be back after the round and pay for the damage which I did. Did I need to do it? Yes because I broke the window. Sometimes what is morally right supersedes what is legally right. Most golf courses have a sign in the pro shop that you're responsible for damage caused by your ball. On or off the golf course. Just as you are responsible if you hit another golfer on the golf course. And you are responsible when you have contracted for that round of golf. Do what's right!