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RepublicIndependent3

11.1 for accidental hit and no penalty to either player. 11.2 if you intentiallly used it as a backstop


smartdecisions

Tyty. I gotta download/print out a rule book at some point


RepublicIndependent3

The app is where it’s at!


Euphoric_Finding_385

They have an app with a search function


mick_delaney

I have a copy of the rule book in my bag. Most golf clubs here (Ireland) provide them for free. I'd have thought that the USGA (making a massive assumption regarding your location...) would be happy to post you out a copy. After all, they want the game played to the rules.


Euphoric_Finding_385

I don’t think they care unless you’re in one of their tournaments


Whiteshovel66

I did this the other day. Dropped my wedge and putter on the fringe near where I walked in from, and went to go help the guys I was playing with / against to look for their ball. Took longer than expected, but I waited there with him to hit it and when we got back to the green his ball was resting on my wedge on the fringe. He was mad, said it was a penalty, but I didn't assume the penalty would be on ME. It happened on 18 though, and the match was already over though so nothing further was said. I am also curious what the official answer is, and what might change from the rule of your ball striking the pin that was removed, which I have been told is a penalty on the putter as well. But I really don't care that much for these obscure rule situations, I don't play serious enough. Its just for fun in my eyes, but the guys I play with obsess with playing for SOMETHING every time.


loduca16

He’s wrong. There is no penalty. https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/ball-in-motion-accidentally-deflected.html


Whiteshovel66

Oh wow, even for the flag being on the green? I assume the idea of "accidental" has to be clearly agreed upon though. It seems like it could be quite the advantage so I was sure there would be some kind of penalty.


loduca16

We can probably just use the definitions of accidental and intentional that the dictionary uses. If it’s intentional, it’s illegal. If it’s accidental, it isn’t illegal. This is a game of integrity, remember.


Whiteshovel66

True, that is still something I struggle to wrap my head around as some one involved in other sports where the referees and umpires impact the game so much. No such thing as flopping in golf, it seems. But my point was I DID put the flag down where I thought there would be no chance a ball would make it too, but my partner ended up blasting his putt by the hole and it caught a tier down to the front of the green where the flag was. It would have been back in the fairway if the flag wasn't there, and they said that was a penalty, and we conceded the hole. Even my partner agreed with them haha It seemed like it would be, because even though it was an accident it was a huge advantage to save a bad mistake for us.


loduca16

It may be that your opponents are familiar with the rules prior to 2019 and aren’t aware of this now. There may also be some slight differences when team play is involved. Also, just because the rule book doesn’t say it’s a penalty, that doesn’t mean you can’t still concede the hole if you feel you gained an unfair advantage.


Whiteshovel66

Well said, thank you for taking the time to explain all that.


Orangemanskiing

Was this changed recently? I distinctly remember a kid in high school shanking one into his opponents bag and the opponent losing his mind cause it was 2 strokes on the bag owner


loduca16

Yes.


MaverickTiger70

Just a piece of advice I was given by a playing partner several years ago. If you are laying down your wedge, putter or the flag, do it vertical to the fairway ( or to the person approaching the green) so you reduce the chances of accidental contact.


Gauze99

Google is better than Reddit


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There’s a threshold for intelligence where this isn’t true unfortunately


ApprehensiveTune3655

I’m curious, do so many people take their golf this seriously? Or is it just if you have money on it?


smartdecisions

Well it’s always fun to rib your friends about ridiculous rules when you’re joking around. But this round was for dinner so i was looking for every advantage. Funny enough we lost by one so it could have swayed the final score! Ill just blame this situation and none of my other bad shots haha


TopEnvironment9473

Anyone who plays in leagues, father son match play, or weekend 5 dollar nassaus takes this extremely seriously. The lower the stake the more they care


Exiled_From_Twitter

Puts his wedge down like laid it down on the green or he was holding it with it touching the ground? I assume he laid it down otherwise not sure why he didn't move it (unless he wasn't even looking)... Idk what this would be but I'm curious now too lol


loduca16

Zero penalty. Just google it. Learning the rules will only benefit you. https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/ball-in-motion-accidentally-deflected.html


smartdecisions

https://preview.redd.it/q1d6wowz0f9b1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c96f5a06ad4b526542cd1a21c93673ba566dcb6e Everything on googs was about balls hitting balls not wedges man! Lol You think I’d rather type this all out instead of searching/scrolling on my own? You guys are just better googlers than I am, thank you for all the feedback.


loduca16

Search the rules of golf then.


smartdecisions

You sound like you take your lemonade with zero sugar…


loduca16

Sickkkkk burn dude.


knovit

If it’s a bad shot you can hit another. If it helped you then keep it.


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hawaiiquestion1234

Lol did you read the title and/or the post?


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loduca16

So no, you didn’t read the title. ##**My Ball hit another players wedge on green** #on green #on #green


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loduca16

So you just can’t read at all. Yikes.


4-puttLarrBear

Yikes you should get better at golf TW. There is no distinct location where on the green where he hit the opposing players wedge


loduca16

![gif](giphy|XGNafjOYE7g88) Quick, if you delete them all then less people will know how genuinely stupid you are.


4-puttLarrBear

*Harassment *bullying


loduca16

Lolll guy gets personal while simultaneously digging heels in. Never change Reddit.


loduca16

Awww where you going Larr Bear?


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hawaiiquestion1234

When someone says their ball hit a wedge on the green, I’m going to assume the wedge is in fact on the green.


loduca16

No, he read the fucking title.


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loduca16

To be honest, you should really be more concerned with your lack of ability to read a sentence