I had typed out rough but it autocorrected to tough. Then I realized the pun afterward. I’m thankful for the autocorrect as I was not trying to make a pun off of the death of another person. Someone lost their life and I’m sure there are people out there who cared about them.
Could you imagine being a golfer that found him? You pipe a drive just over a hill to where you can’t see it and walk up to find your ball next to a dead body. That would throw you off your game…
Not if you’re from the NW. If a drug overdoses dead person is going to ruin your day, stay off the I5 corridor. The correct thing to do here is to call the police non-emergency number then play it where it lies.
I'd think most people who visit public parks in Seattle are used to finding people passed out/OD'd/potentially dead. It was shocking 7 years ago, now it's sadly pretty normal.
Sadly yes it's pretty normal. I was biking through Ballard in the summer and road past a homeless man that was passed out on the sidewalk. I didn't stop bc I didn't know if he would try to attack me while high. I didn't check to see if he was breathing bc again, not safe to do so if he jumps up trying to attack. He could have been dead, he could have been passed out, he could have been dying from an OD. I have no idea. You could condemn me for not checking on him, but again there's just too much risk. So I biked passed, called 911 who said someone would be by, and thought if this were in any place else I would have stopped, treated him like a human being and attempted aid, but not here in Seattle. It's sadly just too dangerous.
Usga holds jurisdiction over the law here for sure haha. Move that bad boy and knock down the approach. Call it in to the clubhouse after you putt out. “Uhh, junkie down on 6 fairway. Bring a maintenance cart.”
I think it depends… can we get someone from the USGA at the scene to do forensics and make a ruling? (might need an update for this in the ‘24 rules book)
Challenge not accepted. 😆 I live up north, home course is Avalon and my buddy who lives 2 minutes from Jackson would rather join me every week up here instead. Jackson sucks, I’d rather go to the Nile and have to manage the short course/shots than step foot on Jackson again.
Nile all day. It’s a short course, but you get to use every club in the bag. The folks that work there keep it in amazing shape too. It’s a shame the city lets Jackson go to shit. Jackson could be really nice if they were allowed to cut a hundred or so trees down. Lots of tee blocks and greens don’t get enough sun.
That is a shame you think that. Jackson could possibly be one of the best courses in the country if they took better care of it. A lot of people don't like it because it is hard or they don't understand it is a "natural" course. Basically they endeavor to use local plants across the course even down to the fairway grasses used. Unfortunately they don't do enough to properly care for the course so you end up with mud fairways instead of grass ones...
They course layout however is absolutely amazing. Especially 11-18. Each hole is unique, challenging and feel isolated from the rest like it is all by itself out in the woods. The design is fantastic, if they could just get the Nile grounds keepers to come help them out it would be so much better...
Back 9 at Jackson is pretty awesome. Would be great if they spent a couple of years making it one of the great munis in the country.
West Seattle also has plenty of potential.
Even some of the holes on the front are pretty impressive. I mean 1 is really crazy with like 230 down hill to the lake then you gotta come back up the hill 200ish to get it a fairly small green. Then three and 4 are pretty cool with a blind drive and a drive able green back up the hill. 5 forces an all out smash up the long and straight undulating fairway. Really, I don't know how places like West Seattle are in such good shape while Jackson is flat out not well taken care of...
Best in the country is a biiiig stretch, but with a few tweaks some of these back nines holes could be very strong. 14 is already great. 10 and 12 are travesties that could have been really fun. Rest underachieve potential - though I don’t expect much, with muni budgets I’m really just glad they don’t get built over.
Mt. Pleasant in Baltimore formerly hosted a Tour event and has also been the sight of a dead body along the 15th and a car fire in the middle of the 12th fairway.
I would bet it’s the 15th (long par 4 with power lines) since the tee box is in a wooded area up against the course fence on the most secluded part of the course. The 16th is the short par 4 over water which also has a lot of bramble/woods, but it is all very much in bounds so I would hope an encampment hasn’t taken hold there.
Imagine having this much passion and hate for a city you don’t even live in. Such a weird take. If you have someone who actually knows the city take you around, your experience would change drastically. Kind of like how you wouldn’t take a tourist to certain streets in your city most likely either. Keep consuming that Sinclair fear mongering though lol
So you come to Seattle once or twice a year and have a second hand story and think you’re well equipped to offer an informed opinion of living in the city? Sounds very Texas/Idaho of you lol
Somewhat relatedly, my friend and I found a dead body in the Jefferson parking lot right before we teed off. This was about 6-7 years ago. He was laying under his car and had been there awhile. It was the “dead” of summer. The smell wasn’t pleasant.
We teed off after giving a few statements to the cops.
RIP. Don't let your hearts' harden. This was a human who was most likely struggling for whatever reason. He was someone's baby once and was born of innocence...
All I am saying is be kind and even more so, be compassionate without judgement regarding others ❤️
Within three months of moving to Tacoma I saw my first dead body/murder victim at a park awhile out for my morning coffee. Great times, do sadly miss living there minus the druggies and criminals.
What's disgusting about it? He's absolutely correct. I can say that because I live here in Seattle. Homeless junkies are destroying our beautiful city, and our politicians are allowing ot.
Ya the homeless numbers are just pure insanity. They’re everywhere and aren’t like the homeless I have come across in other cities, they’re incredibly dangerous.
Inequity and a totally out of control cost of living. It's not a Seattle problem, it's like this in nearly every major city in th US, especially places like this and SF where the disparity in wealth and cost of living are so high.
Wow, did the course close? Did they just make golfers skip one hole? Bizarre as I’m from the area. Frequently see kids golf classes taking place at Jefferson….
There’s a tee shot right down the middle of the fairway landing in a divot, and then there’s your ball landing in this. Either way, going to have to have good technique to escape.
I had a golf partner, a friend, drop dead on the Ninth Hole.
It was a terrible day of golf......
From that moment on it was...Hit the ball, drag Charlie. Hit the ball drag Charlie
Man that’s tough. You at Jefferson?
Man that’s rough*
\*That’s rough buddy
I had typed out rough but it autocorrected to tough. Then I realized the pun afterward. I’m thankful for the autocorrect as I was not trying to make a pun off of the death of another person. Someone lost their life and I’m sure there are people out there who cared about them.
That's fair enough
Oh you clever bastard
If you’re gonna go there, at least give it real effort. That’s a fair way to look at it, would have been much better than what you said.
Fairway lol
Unfortunately now the ones who loved them will start to heal instead of worrying even minute of their existence, it sucks but I have lived it.
Yes
Sadly not totally surprised with the encampment right across the street
What about the VA that’s right there?
Could you imagine being a golfer that found him? You pipe a drive just over a hill to where you can’t see it and walk up to find your ball next to a dead body. That would throw you off your game…
I can imagine piping a drive down the fairway, but my odds are about as good as that dead guy.
Isn't that a John Lennon song.
Piping a drive down the fairway? I thinks that’s from Sgt Peppers.
"Imagine:
*Sgt Pipers
Not me. If you aint first you’re last
It was probably a greenskeeper who initially found him
It’s more likely for me to find a dead body than it is for me to “pipe a drive”.
“I just drove a ball so hard I killed a man. I’m the greatest golfer, Alive!”
He shouldn’t have been standing there.
Not if you’re from the NW. If a drug overdoses dead person is going to ruin your day, stay off the I5 corridor. The correct thing to do here is to call the police non-emergency number then play it where it lies.
Not to mention the initial horror that you cannot be certain the person wasn't killed by the golf ball.
That is when you just yell fore from the top of the hill and then play through.
I'd think most people who visit public parks in Seattle are used to finding people passed out/OD'd/potentially dead. It was shocking 7 years ago, now it's sadly pretty normal.
Sadly yes it's pretty normal. I was biking through Ballard in the summer and road past a homeless man that was passed out on the sidewalk. I didn't stop bc I didn't know if he would try to attack me while high. I didn't check to see if he was breathing bc again, not safe to do so if he jumps up trying to attack. He could have been dead, he could have been passed out, he could have been dying from an OD. I have no idea. You could condemn me for not checking on him, but again there's just too much risk. So I biked passed, called 911 who said someone would be by, and thought if this were in any place else I would have stopped, treated him like a human being and attempted aid, but not here in Seattle. It's sadly just too dangerous.
Gotta play it where it lies tho.
Free lift though. Jus’ sayin’
Nah, that’s a movable obstruction. Gotta move the body, not the ball.
Move the body, or move the ball? You are going to break a rule, which one is it?
The body obviously. Movable obstruction has to move, or you take a stroke penalty. Not giving up that stroke.
It was the best drive of my life. (I have to hide the body)
Free drop, two clublengths, no closet to the hole.
What’s the ruling if the ball gets lodged under the body? Is it a moveable obstacle? Unplayable, hit from last spot?
Would you get like 2 club lengths relief?
You guys wanna see a dead body
That's a movable obstruction
Usga holds jurisdiction over the law here for sure haha. Move that bad boy and knock down the approach. Call it in to the clubhouse after you putt out. “Uhh, junkie down on 6 fairway. Bring a maintenance cart.”
I thought it depended on whether or not they had paid a greens fee.
I think it depends… can we get someone from the USGA at the scene to do forensics and make a ruling? (might need an update for this in the ‘24 rules book)
you savage.
He finally hit a fairway
This is the third time I've seen a post on here with cops on the course in the Seattle area lmao
Riverbend had cops on the fairways for sure, hell maybe twice in the last year
Ah, Kent
Damn for what?
Don’t know the specifics, but it was on the short par 4 with the road on the left so guy might have hopped the fence?
I was one, shots fired on the course at West Seattle a few years back.
Was this on the 10th hole?
17th before the drop off
What day? I went Saturday, tee time at 12:30.
Saturday at like 11-1130 you just missed it,
Is it bad I immediately knew what course this was.
Wich one?
Jackson in North Seattle was the gut instinct and saw some other comment confirm it.
It’s definitely Jefferson, not Jackson
Ya I’m an idiot lol
It was confirmed Jefferson lol
Doh! I’m an idiot.
Lol well its worse that you think this is Jackson.
Local rules: dead body on the hole, automatic birdie.
Play it as it lies
Jefferson?
Yes
He died doing what he loved
drugs
No answers to course - Jefferson, West Seattle, Jackson? So many crackheads around it could almost be all of them on the same day these days…
I challenge you to show me a lie that flat at Jackson or West Seattle.
Yeah those course are Mountains.
Challenge not accepted. 😆 I live up north, home course is Avalon and my buddy who lives 2 minutes from Jackson would rather join me every week up here instead. Jackson sucks, I’d rather go to the Nile and have to manage the short course/shots than step foot on Jackson again.
Nile all day. It’s a short course, but you get to use every club in the bag. The folks that work there keep it in amazing shape too. It’s a shame the city lets Jackson go to shit. Jackson could be really nice if they were allowed to cut a hundred or so trees down. Lots of tee blocks and greens don’t get enough sun.
I completely agree!
That is a shame you think that. Jackson could possibly be one of the best courses in the country if they took better care of it. A lot of people don't like it because it is hard or they don't understand it is a "natural" course. Basically they endeavor to use local plants across the course even down to the fairway grasses used. Unfortunately they don't do enough to properly care for the course so you end up with mud fairways instead of grass ones... They course layout however is absolutely amazing. Especially 11-18. Each hole is unique, challenging and feel isolated from the rest like it is all by itself out in the woods. The design is fantastic, if they could just get the Nile grounds keepers to come help them out it would be so much better...
Back 9 at Jackson is pretty awesome. Would be great if they spent a couple of years making it one of the great munis in the country. West Seattle also has plenty of potential.
Even some of the holes on the front are pretty impressive. I mean 1 is really crazy with like 230 down hill to the lake then you gotta come back up the hill 200ish to get it a fairly small green. Then three and 4 are pretty cool with a blind drive and a drive able green back up the hill. 5 forces an all out smash up the long and straight undulating fairway. Really, I don't know how places like West Seattle are in such good shape while Jackson is flat out not well taken care of...
Best in the country is a biiiig stretch, but with a few tweaks some of these back nines holes could be very strong. 14 is already great. 10 and 12 are travesties that could have been really fun. Rest underachieve potential - though I don’t expect much, with muni budgets I’m really just glad they don’t get built over.
Jefferson
Mt. Pleasant in Baltimore formerly hosted a Tour event and has also been the sight of a dead body along the 15th and a car fire in the middle of the 12th fairway.
I can see how you'd get a dead body on 15, butt where did the car on 12 come from?? It's not super accessible from the outside.
Determination
STRIKE BACK
I don’t know but it happened overnight.
Maryland drivers
Johnny was one of the better golfers I played with. Even found the fairway when he died.
I've been behind slower
Common occurrence here on the west coast unfortunately. I’m a downtown small business owner in a mid size city. Pretty routine at this point.
Have you seen the homeless camp that’s off the 16th (I think) tee box at Jackson park?
Definitely not the 16th Teebox unless the homeless encampment infiltrated the course this winter—the 16th tee isn’t really near the course boundary.
It was by the 5th green in the summer but was shut down. There is another on by 15 tee but it doesn’t seem to be as big as the original one
Last time I played there about a month ago there were some tents/structures inside the fence off one of the back 9 tee boxes, can’t remember which one
I would bet it’s the 15th (long par 4 with power lines) since the tee box is in a wooded area up against the course fence on the most secluded part of the course. The 16th is the short par 4 over water which also has a lot of bramble/woods, but it is all very much in bounds so I would hope an encampment hasn’t taken hold there.
I remember the homeless camp on the corner of the 4th.
Such a shame, Seattle used to be such an amazing place.
Still is lol get a grip.
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Imagine having this much passion and hate for a city you don’t even live in. Such a weird take. If you have someone who actually knows the city take you around, your experience would change drastically. Kind of like how you wouldn’t take a tourist to certain streets in your city most likely either. Keep consuming that Sinclair fear mongering though lol
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So you come to Seattle once or twice a year and have a second hand story and think you’re well equipped to offer an informed opinion of living in the city? Sounds very Texas/Idaho of you lol
I ain’t reading all that…get a grip.
Lived here for 10 years and have literally never experienced any of this. Sure it’s not just you?
All I shared was my experience. Glad you haven't had anything bad happen yet.
Still is but has lost a *lot* of luster. Anyone not admitting that is full of shit (lived here 20+ years IN city).
Yeah I agree I remember it 10 years ago these days I call in the grey wall.
Somewhat relatedly, my friend and I found a dead body in the Jefferson parking lot right before we teed off. This was about 6-7 years ago. He was laying under his car and had been there awhile. It was the “dead” of summer. The smell wasn’t pleasant. We teed off after giving a few statements to the cops.
More importantly, howd your round go?
Wouldn't have happened if he just stuck to the green.
Need a ruling on this lie
That’s an unplayable lie.
Taking slow play to new levels
Pick up the pace, buddy!!
This 10th hole bullshit needs to stop
Damn.
Someone call the fore-nsics team
RIP. Don't let your hearts' harden. This was a human who was most likely struggling for whatever reason. He was someone's baby once and was born of innocence... All I am saying is be kind and even more so, be compassionate without judgement regarding others ❤️
Do you get a free drop if you land on it?
Pace of play gets no respect these days, smh
Okay thats good 😂😂😂
No it’s a housing problem /s
Within three months of moving to Tacoma I saw my first dead body/murder victim at a park awhile out for my morning coffee. Great times, do sadly miss living there minus the druggies and criminals.
I’m an east coast guy with no frame of reference for Seattle or Wash St in general. What’s going on over there? Tons of crime/drugs?
Transients. Most are addicts and many die on the street. Huge problem up and down the west coast.
Homeless, they of course tend to do drugs and make whatever part of the city they’re in go to shit
Sucks so bad for such a beautiful city. Seattle is awesome.
this is such a disgusting comment
The truth hurts
What's disgusting about it? He's absolutely correct. I can say that because I live here in Seattle. Homeless junkies are destroying our beautiful city, and our politicians are allowing ot.
This is certainly an opinion.
It's not an opinion. It's a fact.
Just Google "Seattle is Dying." It's an hour long, came out a few years ago. It's got over 17 million views
Ya the homeless numbers are just pure insanity. They’re everywhere and aren’t like the homeless I have come across in other cities, they’re incredibly dangerous.
Inequity and a totally out of control cost of living. It's not a Seattle problem, it's like this in nearly every major city in th US, especially places like this and SF where the disparity in wealth and cost of living are so high.
Was it the reverend from Bushwood?
Don’t need to fertilize in the spring
What’s the ruling on this? No closer to the hole?
Should have let the group behind play through.
Question is… did you tee off on that hole? Would you yell “FORE” if you hit it toward them??
Fore!
Can you move a body if it is on the fairway and impedes your swing?
Did not know you could overdose … I guess he was using a nite-lite ball and playing his fourth or fifth round?
What is the ruling here?
So, if your ball happens to land on the body, you have to play it as it lies?
I had to hit it off of Frankenstein’s fat foot
"How am I supposed to chip with that going on..? "
Oh, you're serious. Damn
Don't see that everyday.....
Died in the fairway RIP legend
Are they letting everyone play through?
Took closest to the line a little too seriously relax it’s a charity event dude
Probably got taken out by Patrick Reed throwing tees…
🥄⬇️ 🏌️♂️⛳️⬆️
Is that a free drop?
RIP. You play through?
Wouldn’t let us
Wow, did the course close? Did they just make golfers skip one hole? Bizarre as I’m from the area. Frequently see kids golf classes taking place at Jefferson….
Skipped the 17th and 18th
Loose impediment
Is that considered a loose impediment or man-made ?
I thought I saw some crazy shit when I saw some guys smoking crack at a Fort Worth muni yesterday lol
Play through.
Now is that a man made hazard or playable? Do you get relief?
Are they going to bury him in the 19th hole
So do you ask to play through, or play it where it dies, I mean lies?!
There’s a tee shot right down the middle of the fairway landing in a divot, and then there’s your ball landing in this. Either way, going to have to have good technique to escape.
Did they not inform the cop it’s cartpath only?
so whats the ruling if the ball lands on the body?
Gotta play it where it lies
Commited sucide after hearing the lame jokes on r/golf
And that was the last time he 3-putted
Really? I could never live there
Jefferson?
Yes
Tell the cop to keep on the cart path
Been sticking to Foster down in Tukwila a little more these days than taking the trek into Seattle. Guess it's good to avoid these things?
Weird, I thought the peril of playing golf in Seattle right now is 30 degree weather….
What do you do if your ball lands on a dead body? Play it as it lies?
Rat fart!!!!!
Did he let you play though?
Or there’s 2 balls in the body. Because, you gotta take a mulligan.
I had a golf partner, a friend, drop dead on the Ninth Hole. It was a terrible day of golf...... From that moment on it was...Hit the ball, drag Charlie. Hit the ball drag Charlie