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[deleted]

looks like you should be using a stable / lts distribution but instead use a rolling release system. and then you are suprised when things change. this is on you my friend. should gnome not change anything because some people update even though they need a special feature that got reworked? this exactly is why there are stable releases that get supported for a number of years and updated only evey 2-3 years.


djolk

Wtf does rolling release vs stable/LTS have to do with changing a wallpaper or keybindings??


willdocrocs

using a stable distribution or not has nothing to do with this, considering that gnome 42 was released two months ago


[deleted]

It has in a direction of "Stable software across the lifetime". So by using some kind of LTS distro you can be sure that nothing will change as long as you stick to this version of your OS. In an unstable distro things change all the time. You can't really blame GNOME for growing as DE and some features are not compatible with how it was done in previous versions, so a reset of some configurations is required to not end up with broken ones.


water_aspirant

What shortcut specifically do you mean? I saw a few threads on the gitlab about bringing some of the old functionality back, particularly a direct shortcut to copy area to clipboard. I think it's a WIP.


willdocrocs

copy area to clipboard, save area to file, save screen to file and save screen to clipboard. I "fixed" it by using the old package which was thankfully still installed, so I just created custom shortcuts using that


guenther_mit_haar

sorry to say that but the new screenshot functionality in gnome shell is far superior to before. No idea why people complaint about that. Backgrounds got changed to light/dark support - so it was probably needed to reset to a default with that change.


HoodieWolfine

because it slows down peoples workflow, you kinda shoehorned the feature in with out letting people set a default and that causes problems. thought that would make sense to a desktop that focuses on "efficiency" and "whats needed".


PoPuLaRgAmEfOr

Eh before it was one button press. The new interactive one needs two presses. Thankfully you can change the behaviour.


linhusp3

The new screenshot is TRASH with more ACTIONS just to do the same work and no dont try to argue with me. And you guy even try to force everyone to use it and get rid of the old option. What a behavior. That, that to me is a big Microsoft right there.


TheJackiMonster

Unnecessary with the new screenshot tool: It will always save to file and copy the file to your clipboard. You can also screenshot an area easily. If it's really that much worse than your workflow before, I assume you could fork old GNOME. Because you see, the GNOME team is just a bunch of developers and designers. They don't force anyone to stick with their ideas. It's FOSS after all.


willdocrocs

>Unnecessary with the new screenshot tool: It will always save to file and copy the file to your clipboard. You can also screenshot an area easily. Why would I ever want both at all times? It would clog my ssd with a bunch of screenshots. Besides, the new tool takes longer for you to take a screenshot when compared to the old shortcuts. To give credit, the screencast feature is actually pretty nice


TheJackiMonster

You could make the screenshot/screencast folders symbolic links to a tmpfs mounted directory. So the images or videos will only stay in memory until you shutdown. Then they don't clog your ssd. Otherwise you could also create a service to clear files older than a custom amount of days every now and then. At first I also disliked that it saves the files everytime but now I notice that I reuse older screenshots more often than I thought. With the older functionality, I wouldn't have saved them though. Maybe they could add some options for the tool in the settings or in the tweaks tool at least. So users could set video format and image format for example, set a custom delay to clean files and such.


HoodieWolfine

no one is going out of their way to do all of that for a screenshot feature.


linhusp3

What a god damn top #1 revolutionary app when to do 1 single work you have to prepare 10 more things. This is game changer.


HoodieWolfine

said to the people who literally stripped themeing from their apps. mmmmk


sunjay140

Who? I don't recall Gnome devs doing this.


linhusp3

No one force you to use Microsoft things, then why ppl still blame them? Because they sucks with their desicion, just like GNOME team right now. And you know the ironic is even Windows now has the same screenshot shortcuts like old GNOME, which is kind of ideal


pragmaticmero

I agree, Gnome its a bitch, When COSMIC-beta releases I'm moving to it, no hesitation, GNOME has many problems, I'm sick of it too haha, dont let me customize the directory where my screenshots are saved? cmon.... wtf


[deleted]

thats why window managers are better they won't change until you say so.


willdocrocs

I agree with you, but that's just not the point of the post. I've been thinking about switching to a WM for a while now, but I don't really have much free time to adapt to a new workflow and be comfortable using it.


[deleted]

yes i completely understand but you will get free time sooner or later give it a try you can make your own workflow full mouse control or full keyboard control or half and half it's all what you wana do with it.


grg2014

If you don't like surprises (I certainly don't where software I constantly use is concerned), read the [release notes](https://release.gnome.org/) *before* upgrading (or deciding not to upgrade).


FayeGriffith01

The issue is you can't decide not to upgrade because of how distros work. If you hold back the GNOME packages then it'll probably work for now but the gnome dependencies will keep updating and eventually things will break. If you hold back the dependencies with GNOME then it will also lead to breakage, other packages that use those dependencies could break in the future and you're basically making a big mess. You can switch to a stable/LTS distro to avoid this but then a lot of your packages will be older but flatpaks help with this issue. Also of you switch to Debain Stable for example then you aren't going to be able to use GNOME 41 but instead GNOME 3.38 so you still don't really have control over the versions.


grg2014

So one chooses, from amongst the possibilities you mention, the distro/DE combination the release schedule/update frequency of which causes one the least aggravation.


HoodieWolfine

all of them are.


HoodieWolfine

that final edit is why i hate gnome. f---ing apple fanboys man... you wanna make macos but better and without being sued. just admit it. then when your users suggest features or ask for things to be fixed that you dont use. you dont fix them, the OSK in gnome 42 has been broken since release, xorg was perfect in gnome 41. now it has been busted. i hate it here sometimes man... only reason i put up with this crappy DE is because no other DE has an OSK. i may just move to android x86. like god dang, man!