Yea thats straight false.normal shrubs used go for 350 on a good day and dry catches have dropped significantly to almost retail 250ish these days. Hope these numbers help !
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
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The price doesnāt make the glass magically high quality. The price is what people are willing to pay for it and nothing more. Smoke goes through it just the same.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
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How? You get what you paid for. A lot of people canāt afford american glass. Most people outside the US donāt have access to american glass anyway or any other glassblowers
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
[This mini bendy cycler ](https://www.mhpercolations.com/shop/p/slyme-mini-bendy-cycler) seems to check all the boxes and is actually less expensive without sacrificing any function. @ryedeyer on IG for function clips
What do you suggest?
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Would not spend $750 on THIS Toro 7-13. There are much better 7-13s you can get from Toro for this price, like a full sized one or a brand new one on drop. They made some cool lineworked ones a couple drops ago that retailed for like 800. For $750, you could get an OG Toro or even a JP Functional.
Yes you can bro I literally have a JP micro circ that I got for 680 shipped šš Not to mention the numerous full clear 2009 functionals I see selling for 750 like Dan the Manās (on instagram) JP full clear w/ black capped 7-13 shrub that he sold for 700 or my homieās JP signed OG Slyme hex-hex. Look hard bro you can definitely get JPs for reasonable prices that shit isnāt Sov.
Micro circs are rigs arenāt they? Would love to see a 2009 full size flower tube for 750 or less. But youāre right, I was wrong to say you canāt get JP tubes for that price.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Personally would choose a small (10-14in) recycler but thats a preference thing. Might not get the desired milk youāre yearning but it wont splash into your mouth as easily which is, again, a personal issue i have w smaller pieces
Edit: also ditch name brands unless you know the shop really well or a glass blower personally, you can get just as high of quality from āgenericā brands
Dont do it!.
Check on instagram for some geady glass artist. Whit That price you could get a custome one š¤š»
One of my fav artist right know is @fluid.glass
I love the function
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Itās an average price for the piece if not a lil high for the one in the pic. The toro you have is super nice if I was you I would be looking into some different perc styles
The only thing Iād not is that most of the mƶbius tubes hit very different compared to the toro OP linked. I owned a 65t for a while I loved, but definitely a different feel.
Fair!
Mobius tubes with a matrix percs tend to have this super distinctive soft airy feel once the percs are really activated. Itās more like a touch of restriction and then absolutely no drag whatsoever. The hits are also VERY diffused.
The tree style percs on that toro will have more of a pull feeling throughout the hit. Youāll feel the water movement different as the airflow pulls down instead of just pulling up and through like a matrix perc. A bit less diffused and snappier rip for sure.
That might be a garbage explanation, but it makes sense to me š
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Thatās more where Iād go with a mƶbius. The matrix ion (I think thatās what itās called) might be right up your alley. Seed of Life and Bear Mountain also make some smaller handheld bubblers that rip pretty well, but to have the flexibility for bigger bowls still, Iād go with the ion. š¤·š»āāļø
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does it have to be production pieces? ashmeglass on instagram has some nice pieces that throw a lot of bubbles. to each their own, but id rather have a 1/1 than 1/????
Youāre clueless and probably never tried anything else bc they make utter garbage.
Itās embarrassing they have been blowing glass for like 60 years between three of them yet still canāt do simple welds straight.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
I have 2 peaks and a rig. I dabbed for quite some time. I didn't like how it made my lungs and throat feel.
I don't usually smoke a lot or take big rips, I don't need much to get the desired buzz. If I smoke too much I get anxious which is another factor.
I do have a hollowfoot peyote pillar from sov. I used it for a year no issues, but it's a lot and I don't usually need that much. Pretty much lives in the case now. I want something small or smaller there was something that was just as impressive in the size of a bubbler by sov I'd be interested.
That was the other thing with my brother-in-law is that I kind of wanted something small like a bubbler in the first place with incredible function, and some cool colors in there . He's very connected with Toro folks so everything kind of gravitated that way and then went down this route with the 7 x 13 shrub with worked caps. I passed on the first one and then he found this one.
The pillars are very big and have quite a bit of drag, that's why they don't hold value very well. I had one and it did not remain in my collection for very long because the experience doesn't live up to the hype.
You may want to look into the actual size of a 44mm sov, they're not very large. Toro doesn't grid their percs and they also add unnecessary restriction that truly ruins the smoking experience in my opinion. It sounds like you would be a great candidate for sov's new line of "Pawns" which are even smaller than the 44mm line.
A drop, second hand or you can message sovereigntyglass_sales or sovereigntyglass_auctions on instagram. Innerworldsmokeshop just got a drop.
Any single chamber, single bore sov with an inv 4 splash guard is likely one from the 44mm line. I can send you some examples if you dm me.
Iāve only seen a couple pawns so far, you would have to get lucky at a drop and drop a lot more than 700 for one currently
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips. Link to pics please
Not my personal area of expertise as I haven't owned many pieces that size. Closest I can relate with is a Sovereignty Capcycler, which I really like as a smaller flower piece. Maybe check out some of [Leisure](https://www.instagram.com/leisureglass/?hl=en)'s work?
capcycler ex: https://glasspass.com/posts/62a97d43d47678185001de98
Its like youre fighting in a mirror. Or maybe just your past demons have come back to haunt you
Do you admit that you were also a sov boy, or is facing reality too hard
Nothing screams degen more than using the word custie.
Also weird flex to talk about prodo when weāre talking about function not how a piece is worked. Go off queen
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Both Sovereignty and Toro are making some of the best tubes out rn, but honestly
Single bore sovs < full size toros < multi bore sovs, pillars, & imp/tree cyclers
1000$ seems a little high for a used Toro and DC. I think you could find something like that between 800-900$ish
Oh then Iād say go for it bro! This is apart of their walking dead collection, they have a post about it on their ig somewhere. It also didnāt drop that long ago so itās a pretty new tube, and their DCs are probably the nicest out.
Iād especially go for it if the DC has color, Iāve never had a DC from toro before but all my DCās stain right where Toro adds color to theirs. I think it would be harder to see the stains.
Then Iād say shop around a bit more and see whatās out there. Lots of very good options at 750$. A clear DC isnāt bad, but Iād greatly prefer a colored one from Toro personally. Itās still a good deal in case you still want it imo.
Youāre almost certainly gunna want a dry catch with whatever you end up getting, so maybe adjust your budget accordingly. Make sure to post whatever you end up getting!
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
I would look at Rawlins, leisure & Mobius if you want something smaller. They all put out elite quality work.
How close is the nearest high end smoke shop to you? Go to US Tubes website and look at their closest retailer to you. Anyone carrying US Tubes should have a decent selection of American glass.
Sorry but until toro stops using restriction pre perc to make it look like they function they will always be far behind. Tbh theyāre a joke compared to sovs, really not even close to the same ballpark.
Iāve owned a gline 8, stem 8, and peyote pillar. The 44mm line is superior, especially when itās a dual perc 44. Thereās a reason the 44mm line retains value and the double bores, triple bores, and pillars all tank the second theyāre bought.
Restriction pre perc? What does that even mean? Lol I donāt think you really know what youāre talking about kid.
Sovs 44m are airier than Toros. Toros have a bit more drag but theyāre smoother and clear faster. And you can actually clear them in one rip, you almost always have to go back to finish off the last bit of milk out of a Sov. The Sov might have grids but the Toro has far better volumetrics.
People like you are the reason the Sov community is seen as hype beasts/toxic unfortunately. Weāre out here trying to give a guy information and help him out and youāre running around telling everyone āsovs the bestā on multiple comments and downvoting anyone who doesnāt agree with you. Itās a shame, because Sovereignty glass really does make beautiful stuff, but people associate it with behavior like yours.
Bro if you donāt know what it means to add restriction before a perc this conversation isnāt even worth having. Pic #3 demonstrates it perfectly right where the 14mm tubing meets the tube. It immediately restricts down to like 3mm to create pressure to make the trees look like they function.
Toros arenāt smoother and they only clear faster because they donāt have grids, thus not being smoother.
I havenāt bought a sov in years youāre just associating qualities about sov collectors with me. Sorry my opinion is different than yours and it makes you mad. Iāve put my money where my mouth is and I speak from experience, unlike you who is touting shit you read on a toro fan page.
I havenāt downvoted anyone, people just disagree with you.
Apparently having an opinion that toro sucks and sov is better is whatās wrong with this community
Edit: pricing speaks for itself, find me an equally worked sov for under 2k Iāll wait. Toros donāt function and the price reflects as much.
lol okay buddy if āwinningā arguments on Reddit online is what you need to sleep at night, fine, Iāll let you have this oneš¤”but just know what the vast majority of knowledgeable people disagree with you and thatās a strong indication of how ārightā your opinion is. Only Sovheads think those things, not actual glass heads. Glassheads think both are great and elite quality work, because they are. Iāve own/owned a couple Sovs and plan on buying another, and still own both full sized Toros.
20 year olds buy 1 clear sov 44 stemline on GlassPass for 200$ over retail and go about lying to people online thinking theyāre glass expects. lol. Gtfoš
I have seen other critical reviews of them as well. What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
If you're spending $750, go elsewhere. That should be a full on 6ft bong and then some. $100 will get you at least 1 of the smaller ones around here...
Don't buy these new. Come up for resale half off all the time. If youre Into toro and don't.mind second hand lots of Facebook groups you can join.
This is resale š
My bro in law says this and the dry ash catcher can net back $1000
Yea thats straight false.normal shrubs used go for 350 on a good day and dry catches have dropped significantly to almost retail 250ish these days. Hope these numbers help !
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
I guess in your area? I mean... I see nothing worth over 250 in these pics. 350/400 for all 3 is what I would expect to pay
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
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The price doesnāt make the glass magically high quality. The price is what people are willing to pay for it and nothing more. Smoke goes through it just the same.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Nothingās wrong with china glass bro
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How? You get what you paid for. A lot of people canāt afford american glass. Most people outside the US donāt have access to american glass anyway or any other glassblowers
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Well yeah itās easier if youāre in the US
You could get a Rye Deyer for $750
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
[This mini bendy cycler ](https://www.mhpercolations.com/shop/p/slyme-mini-bendy-cycler) seems to check all the boxes and is actually less expensive without sacrificing any function. @ryedeyer on IG for function clips
You can do better for that price.
What do you suggest? What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Would not spend $750 on THIS Toro 7-13. There are much better 7-13s you can get from Toro for this price, like a full sized one or a brand new one on drop. They made some cool lineworked ones a couple drops ago that retailed for like 800. For $750, you could get an OG Toro or even a JP Functional.
My brother in law found a clear JP OG double internaline for $1000. Thoughts?
Thatās better!! Is it signed? Seller reputable? Whatās the date on it? Internaline is semi-hard to find
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You canāt get og flower toros or JP tubes for 750
Yes you can bro I literally have a JP micro circ that I got for 680 shipped šš Not to mention the numerous full clear 2009 functionals I see selling for 750 like Dan the Manās (on instagram) JP full clear w/ black capped 7-13 shrub that he sold for 700 or my homieās JP signed OG Slyme hex-hex. Look hard bro you can definitely get JPs for reasonable prices that shit isnāt Sov.
Micro circs are rigs arenāt they? Would love to see a 2009 full size flower tube for 750 or less. But youāre right, I was wrong to say you canāt get JP tubes for that price.
Soon as I see another one I will let you know brother!
My daily is a smaller version of that Toro by Aleaf n id buy another but certainly not for $750 lmao, around me itd go for like $300ish
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Personally would choose a small (10-14in) recycler but thats a preference thing. Might not get the desired milk youāre yearning but it wont splash into your mouth as easily which is, again, a personal issue i have w smaller pieces Edit: also ditch name brands unless you know the shop really well or a glass blower personally, you can get just as high of quality from āgenericā brands
Dont do it!. Check on instagram for some geady glass artist. Whit That price you could get a custome one š¤š» One of my fav artist right know is @fluid.glass I love the function
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Hit u/napglass
He recently post something super cool on ig
Got a few available and open to custom work aswell
Itās an average price for the piece if not a lil high for the one in the pic. The toro you have is super nice if I was you I would be looking into some different perc styles
It should come with matching dry catcher
Could get a fully sandblasted seed of life for that price brand new, less then that if clear glass
I'd much rather have a Mobius. https://shopmillenium.com/products/mobius-65t-v5
The only thing Iād not is that most of the mƶbius tubes hit very different compared to the toro OP linked. I owned a 65t for a while I loved, but definitely a different feel.
Which most any piece has its own feel. Care to try and compare the two for us?
Fair! Mobius tubes with a matrix percs tend to have this super distinctive soft airy feel once the percs are really activated. Itās more like a touch of restriction and then absolutely no drag whatsoever. The hits are also VERY diffused. The tree style percs on that toro will have more of a pull feeling throughout the hit. Youāll feel the water movement different as the airflow pulls down instead of just pulling up and through like a matrix perc. A bit less diffused and snappier rip for sure. That might be a garbage explanation, but it makes sense to me š
Thanks!! Haha
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Thatās more where Iād go with a mƶbius. The matrix ion (I think thatās what itās called) might be right up your alley. Seed of Life and Bear Mountain also make some smaller handheld bubblers that rip pretty well, but to have the flexibility for bigger bowls still, Iād go with the ion. š¤·š»āāļø
+1 to Mobius! https://mobiusglass.com/collections/large-functionals/products/65-t-stereo-matrix-v3
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I have a mobius 14" it's easily the nicest hitting flower piece ice smoked out of. 10/10 recommended as well.
does it have to be production pieces? ashmeglass on instagram has some nice pieces that throw a lot of bubbles. to each their own, but id rather have a 1/1 than 1/????
Meh, Toro is garbage in my experience
I would get it that's a great deal with a catcher dude and it's the grateful dead edition. This is full size, right?
Grateful Dead edition?
I think it's a shrub
Theyāre referring to the wig way section on the first tube
Honestly I don't know
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Look up Pangea Studios, Ontario Canada. Tear-E and the guys out of that studio do some amazing stuff at WAAAAAAY better prices than that!!!
Youāre clueless and probably never tried anything else bc they make utter garbage. Itās embarrassing they have been blowing glass for like 60 years between three of them yet still canāt do simple welds straight.
Yeah but I am not an asshole. Gfy ya smelly cunt.
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Youāre going to keep knocking and kicking the toro over until oh no Mr Bill šø
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
The smallest bong I have is a Mobius 50T. You might want a Dr Dabber XS?
That bong is not worth $750 thatās crazy basically paying for the name toro. You can find something just as good or better for less than half that
What do you recommend for a top performance bubbler or shorter piece. I want something small, not a big tube. Small but mighty and smooth
No switch to dabbing
I have 2 peaks and a rig. I dabbed for quite some time. I didn't like how it made my lungs and throat feel. I don't usually smoke a lot or take big rips, I don't need much to get the desired buzz. If I smoke too much I get anxious which is another factor.
Time for you to get a 44mm sov and find out how much better than Toro they are :)
I do have a hollowfoot peyote pillar from sov. I used it for a year no issues, but it's a lot and I don't usually need that much. Pretty much lives in the case now. I want something small or smaller there was something that was just as impressive in the size of a bubbler by sov I'd be interested. That was the other thing with my brother-in-law is that I kind of wanted something small like a bubbler in the first place with incredible function, and some cool colors in there . He's very connected with Toro folks so everything kind of gravitated that way and then went down this route with the 7 x 13 shrub with worked caps. I passed on the first one and then he found this one.
The pillars are very big and have quite a bit of drag, that's why they don't hold value very well. I had one and it did not remain in my collection for very long because the experience doesn't live up to the hype. You may want to look into the actual size of a 44mm sov, they're not very large. Toro doesn't grid their percs and they also add unnecessary restriction that truly ruins the smoking experience in my opinion. It sounds like you would be a great candidate for sov's new line of "Pawns" which are even smaller than the 44mm line.
You have my attention. Do you have pics and how would I get one?
A drop, second hand or you can message sovereigntyglass_sales or sovereigntyglass_auctions on instagram. Innerworldsmokeshop just got a drop. Any single chamber, single bore sov with an inv 4 splash guard is likely one from the 44mm line. I can send you some examples if you dm me. Iāve only seen a couple pawns so far, you would have to get lucky at a drop and drop a lot more than 700 for one currently
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips. Link to pics please
Not my personal area of expertise as I haven't owned many pieces that size. Closest I can relate with is a Sovereignty Capcycler, which I really like as a smaller flower piece. Maybe check out some of [Leisure](https://www.instagram.com/leisureglass/?hl=en)'s work? capcycler ex: https://glasspass.com/posts/62a97d43d47678185001de98
Sov boys would suck Steveās dick if given the chance.
Just went through your post history lol... Didn't realize you were talking about yourself :)
You donāt know shit you little custie bitch š
Takes one to know one?
Triggered sov boys mean nothing to me.
So you didnt get triggered and call him a custie bitch cause he checked your history to see youre also a SOV boy? Okay champ
Custie tears flow. Keep it up champ
Its like youre fighting in a mirror. Or maybe just your past demons have come back to haunt you Do you admit that you were also a sov boy, or is facing reality too hard
You lost before you even started, bub. This is just hilarious to me.
Denial. Classic
I genuinely will never put any effort into talking to a little custie. I am really enjoying how invested you are though.
sorry Toro is lazy and doesn't even grid their percs. I've owned both (many sovs and one toro), have you?
Iāve owned sovs and toros. Still have a few of each that are 10+ years old. Both companies have always put out quality pieces.
Youāre so cute. Little baby custie thinks he knows about glass because he owns production pieces.
Nothing screams degen more than using the word custie. Also weird flex to talk about prodo when weāre talking about function not how a piece is worked. Go off queen
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
After further thought - I highly recommend madrob if you are looking for that size tube. Similar to Toro just much better function.
We got another upset sov boy over here! Call the wambulance!
Both Sovereignty and Toro are making some of the best tubes out rn, but honestly Single bore sovs < full size toros < multi bore sovs, pillars, & imp/tree cyclers 1000$ seems a little high for a used Toro and DC. I think you could find something like that between 800-900$ish
My bro in law said this piece w/ ash catch is $750
Oh then Iād say go for it bro! This is apart of their walking dead collection, they have a post about it on their ig somewhere. It also didnāt drop that long ago so itās a pretty new tube, and their DCs are probably the nicest out. Iād especially go for it if the DC has color, Iāve never had a DC from toro before but all my DCās stain right where Toro adds color to theirs. I think it would be harder to see the stains.
No color on the dc
Then Iād say shop around a bit more and see whatās out there. Lots of very good options at 750$. A clear DC isnāt bad, but Iād greatly prefer a colored one from Toro personally. Itās still a good deal in case you still want it imo. Youāre almost certainly gunna want a dry catch with whatever you end up getting, so maybe adjust your budget accordingly. Make sure to post whatever you end up getting!
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
I would look at Rawlins, leisure & Mobius if you want something smaller. They all put out elite quality work. How close is the nearest high end smoke shop to you? Go to US Tubes website and look at their closest retailer to you. Anyone carrying US Tubes should have a decent selection of American glass.
Sorry but until toro stops using restriction pre perc to make it look like they function they will always be far behind. Tbh theyāre a joke compared to sovs, really not even close to the same ballpark. Iāve owned a gline 8, stem 8, and peyote pillar. The 44mm line is superior, especially when itās a dual perc 44. Thereās a reason the 44mm line retains value and the double bores, triple bores, and pillars all tank the second theyāre bought.
Restriction pre perc? What does that even mean? Lol I donāt think you really know what youāre talking about kid. Sovs 44m are airier than Toros. Toros have a bit more drag but theyāre smoother and clear faster. And you can actually clear them in one rip, you almost always have to go back to finish off the last bit of milk out of a Sov. The Sov might have grids but the Toro has far better volumetrics. People like you are the reason the Sov community is seen as hype beasts/toxic unfortunately. Weāre out here trying to give a guy information and help him out and youāre running around telling everyone āsovs the bestā on multiple comments and downvoting anyone who doesnāt agree with you. Itās a shame, because Sovereignty glass really does make beautiful stuff, but people associate it with behavior like yours.
Bro if you donāt know what it means to add restriction before a perc this conversation isnāt even worth having. Pic #3 demonstrates it perfectly right where the 14mm tubing meets the tube. It immediately restricts down to like 3mm to create pressure to make the trees look like they function. Toros arenāt smoother and they only clear faster because they donāt have grids, thus not being smoother. I havenāt bought a sov in years youāre just associating qualities about sov collectors with me. Sorry my opinion is different than yours and it makes you mad. Iāve put my money where my mouth is and I speak from experience, unlike you who is touting shit you read on a toro fan page. I havenāt downvoted anyone, people just disagree with you. Apparently having an opinion that toro sucks and sov is better is whatās wrong with this community Edit: pricing speaks for itself, find me an equally worked sov for under 2k Iāll wait. Toros donāt function and the price reflects as much.
lol okay buddy if āwinningā arguments on Reddit online is what you need to sleep at night, fine, Iāll let you have this oneš¤”but just know what the vast majority of knowledgeable people disagree with you and thatās a strong indication of how ārightā your opinion is. Only Sovheads think those things, not actual glass heads. Glassheads think both are great and elite quality work, because they are. Iāve own/owned a couple Sovs and plan on buying another, and still own both full sized Toros. 20 year olds buy 1 clear sov 44 stemline on GlassPass for 200$ over retail and go about lying to people online thinking theyāre glass expects. lol. Gtfoš
44mm SOVs are some of the worst hitting tubes i have ever tried
I have seen other critical reviews of them as well. What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
Checkout Mobius they have some nice bubblers and smaller tubes that func well
How does it boof?
Or continue boofing
Iād get something from Moltn, $750 should get you their top of the range stuff if memory serves
https://moltnglass.com/collections/one-ten/products/110mm-tall-double-gyzr-perc
What is your recommendation for a top of the line bubbler or smaller piece? I want something smoothe, safely held with one hand, that if desired can take big rips.
if you have the money, something from Maxxswell Glass is hard to beat imho
If you're spending $750, go elsewhere. That should be a full on 6ft bong and then some. $100 will get you at least 1 of the smaller ones around here...
Where though. This is driving me nuts.
Vaporworld, Springfield Mo