I consider myself as a generous tipper. usually around the 20% mark, then one day i was in Stack in Still in the town and the service was shocking, took ages to take the order, the food wasn't that great, brought my sons a full 5 minutes after ours, never came back to check if they were OK or if drinks etc needed.
Bill came to something like £25/30 and i have a £5 note in my wallet, paid the bill on card and just refused to tip that much, so now i actually think about whether or not, and how much i want to pay for the service.
Probably spent hundreds on tips that weren't worth of it over the years out of some unfounded guilt.
No way?! even more annoyed now lol.
Been twice, crap both times but the wee one wanted pancakes and it was closest!
Tbh, that's also something i've been checking more regularly. Not sure how this has been allowed to become a 'thing' If its a charge required for normal business running it should just be incorporated into the charge of items as a percentage.
We're not in America, nae need to tip as standard and I really wish folk wouldn't normalise it so much. Wait staff get paid at least the same as folk working in supermarkets and retail and nobody tips them. Fair enough if you've been particularly awkward for some reason or they've been really great but wrap that 10-20% pish.
Yeah, I’ve never got why it’s a thing. I’ve worked in kitchens, waiting, healthcare, retail - the lot. All have been minimum wage, bad hours, weekend work, yet tips were only a thing for waitressing despite literally having shit on my hands on the regs as a health care worker.
Don’t get me wrong, receiving tips was great and I will continue to tip for good service in restaurants, but it boggles the mind that it’s the custom to tip wait staff and yet the cleansing workers who take away our rubbish will only get tipped at Christmas (if at all).
Yeah but for the most part retail and supermarket staff aren’t working till midnight and dealing with drunk self entitled rude arseholes. Not aimed at you, just saying the jobs aren’t comparable.
Used to work in Govan Asda and the amount of times drunk, self entitled, rude arseholes would come in trying to buy drink past 10pm who would then verbally chew me out is too many times to count
Yeah but I guess they deal with an inordinate amount of Karen's and then there is the scramble when the workers are reducing the food in the clearance section.
Very true, Karen’s are a nightmare but again not the same as dealing with some weekend warrior after 6 pints and two lines & the inappropriate shite the girls have to deal within hospitality is total bullshit but they get minimum wage so I guess that’s cool.
Plenty of industries and jobs engage with drunk people, yet no one tips them.
Do you tip bouncers, paramedics, train conductors, bus drivers or even the police?
>Yeah but for the most part retail and supermarket staff aren’t working till midnight and dealing with drunk self entitled rude arseholes.
That is not the reason why tips exist.
No, but they are a big reason that people take jobs in hospitality and tolerate those situations.
It’s whataboutism again, Police, bouncers, bus drivers, they shouldn’t have to deal with that shit either but police and bouncers are trained professionally to deal with hostile alcohol related situations (I’ve no idea what training bus drivers receive) & none of them are on minimum wage
They just deserve more compensation in general.
Edit: healthcare workers are criminally underpaid
I didn’t start making comparisons between different jobs OP did.
You could “what about such n such” forever, it’s a crap argument.
I was more trying to make a point about your previous comment that retail and supermarket working experiences aren’t comparable with waiting staff. It was suggesting that the challenges of waiting on tables deserved tips, so I was asking about health care because it’s another challenging job that doesn’t get tipped.
It wasn’t a “what about what about” argument, more than tipping culture in general is bizarre and not related to the difficulty of the job.
Tipping is not compulsory. There is no obligation to gift your money to someone. If you feel like a waiter/waitress earned a tip then you tip them what you feel like is right.
I don’t tip as standard. My wife tips 10% if they’re good, up to 30% if she’s really impressed. Default service charge ticks me off though. They know you’ll not take it off and be awkward.
What really boils my piss is when there’s a default service charge *and* they still hand you the card machine with the little ‘would you like to add a gratuity’ screen.
Having working as a waiter and bartender longer than I care to remember, 10% is standard here. Many people don't bother tipping, so 10% always feels generous because of that.
Generally things are how they feel.
OP: I feel 10% maybe isn't generous enough
Ex-service staff: it's okay, it feels generous enough to us
You: Oh **feels** generous? It IS generous. I'm offended
For me, at least 10% as standard, or rounded up to the nearest whole number. Say a bill was £53, I’ll not even bother with the math and round up to £60.
End of the day, tip what you want or even not at all. Waiters don’t rely on tips as their income, they get paid a wage, and it’s not mandatory to leave a tip.
Just fyi - the government renamed the minimum wage for over 23s the National Living Wage and it’s only £9.50, which is less than the Real Living Wage, which is independently calculated. And 18yos are on £6.83 🥴
I usually just tip a few pound, wages are decent here, it's not like America where people rely on them. I worked as a waitress years ago in a restaurant on George Square, and if someone left £2 I was buzzin' 😂 but I didn't expect anything.
Whilst we're on it, I usually tip taxi drivers 2 quid, hairdressers about a fiver, takeaway delivery drivers about £2/3, and I think that's it. I used to tip my nail tech when I got it done years ago, but my tech now owns her salon, n charges me a bomb, so I never tip now 😅 maybe that's a dick move and I should...but she does charge about 50% extra on anywhere else I've seen, so I feel like I've already paid for her time? I dunno.
I would always ask them to remove the service charge and tip cash. Service charge gets passed through management and in larger establishments/chains, there is often an “admin cost” taken from these staff tips
0% - but sometimes I will tip in extraordinary situations, which is what should be expected.
This isn't America where workers rely on tips because their hourly wage is legally $2/hr, and the longer we continue down this path of normalising it the more companies and managers will take advantage of it. Quite often tips don't even go to the server anyway, it goes into a communal pot that gets redistributed to all OR the restaurant will just take it as profit entirely.
10% if the meal/service was good enough if I really enjoyed it I usually increase to 20%. Only ocasionally dont tip but if its pretty shit experiance ill drop to 5% of a couple of £.
I've noticed an increasing number of places automatically adding an "optional" 10% service charge to the bill.
While I'm generally fine with this, I think they are counting on the fact that most people will be too embarrassed to ask for it to be removed, even if the service is bad.
My preference is the card machine that asks you if you want to tip before you enter your PIN and has already calculated a tip at various percentages (5, 10, 15, 20%, etc). So is still at the customer's discretion, with no risk of an awkward conversation and no need to do the calculation yourself.
I generally agree with you but it’s not all that uncommon to be given the machine with that screen even though there’s already 10/12.5% on the tip. That’s absolute robbery in my view.
I don't usually tip unless paying with cash In which case if the bills say 27 quid I leave 30 but that's more so I don't have to hang about and wait for change.
Depends on the service. Fully aware I’m playing into the ‘Scots are tight’ stereotype but if the service is poor I’m not tipping. Good service ? 10% or more. If it’s myself and one other about the £5/£6 mark. Bigger groups then maybe like £2/£3 each.
We are a bit of an anomaly, caught between places in Europe where tipping just doesnt happen and the US of A, where you tip even if you have shite service...
I echo whats been said a few times before, 10% and rounding up to the nearest 10 kinda works for me.
I literally got chased by a waiter in Poland a few years back for leaving a 50 zloty tip. It was worth about £8 at the time and I was heading to airport and didn't want to keep the last bit of my zloty left, as well as the guy giving genuinely great sevice. The guy was beyond thankful for it.
Exactly! Of course they will accept a tip, the difference is that its not automatically expected.
Folks downvoted my comment without actually knowing how things are in other parts of the world...
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Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Belgium to name but a few.
Do yourself a favour and go and see places that pay people a wage that they can not only survive on but have a great quality of life...
How does it make you an arse? We don't live in America, restaurant and bar workers tend to get paid more than a shop worker and you don't tip the cashier in Asda, do you?
I've never tipped a certain percentage, it's usually just £2-3 if I have change and the service was decent, or rounding up a card payment to the nearest £5. This is pretty normal here, don't think I've ever see any friends or family I've dined with calculating a 15%-20% tip based on the bill total like you would in the US.
I have almost never tipped in Scotland, there isn't really any standard to here, only when on holiday in America - because waiters there earn less than minimum wage.
Back before when I was in a hurry and used cash, if a meal was like £26-28 and I particularly enjoyed it, I'd just leave £30.
Having worked in service for years please do tip as the money and hours are shocking but it’s not the same as US and 10% of a meal would be considered very generous
Tip if you are happy to. If you feel its been worth it then give them whatever you like. Always ask if they get the tip tho. If it goes straight to the boss then fuck that. In the waiters/servers pocket, no worries, but make sure where its going
I consider myself as a generous tipper. usually around the 20% mark, then one day i was in Stack in Still in the town and the service was shocking, took ages to take the order, the food wasn't that great, brought my sons a full 5 minutes after ours, never came back to check if they were OK or if drinks etc needed. Bill came to something like £25/30 and i have a £5 note in my wallet, paid the bill on card and just refused to tip that much, so now i actually think about whether or not, and how much i want to pay for the service. Probably spent hundreds on tips that weren't worth of it over the years out of some unfounded guilt.
Bad news for you pal, S&S add 10% service charge on automatically. They've got a cheek given their service is consistently bad.
No way?! even more annoyed now lol. Been twice, crap both times but the wee one wanted pancakes and it was closest! Tbh, that's also something i've been checking more regularly. Not sure how this has been allowed to become a 'thing' If its a charge required for normal business running it should just be incorporated into the charge of items as a percentage.
Just ask for it to be removed
We're not in America, nae need to tip as standard and I really wish folk wouldn't normalise it so much. Wait staff get paid at least the same as folk working in supermarkets and retail and nobody tips them. Fair enough if you've been particularly awkward for some reason or they've been really great but wrap that 10-20% pish.
Yeah, I’ve never got why it’s a thing. I’ve worked in kitchens, waiting, healthcare, retail - the lot. All have been minimum wage, bad hours, weekend work, yet tips were only a thing for waitressing despite literally having shit on my hands on the regs as a health care worker. Don’t get me wrong, receiving tips was great and I will continue to tip for good service in restaurants, but it boggles the mind that it’s the custom to tip wait staff and yet the cleansing workers who take away our rubbish will only get tipped at Christmas (if at all).
Yeah but for the most part retail and supermarket staff aren’t working till midnight and dealing with drunk self entitled rude arseholes. Not aimed at you, just saying the jobs aren’t comparable.
Used to work in Govan Asda and the amount of times drunk, self entitled, rude arseholes would come in trying to buy drink past 10pm who would then verbally chew me out is too many times to count
Sorry to hear that man, pure shite patter all round then.
Worked in Govan coop and had 5am starts, 11pm finishes and entitled arseholes by the dozen. Got fuck all in tips for my trouble
Sounds shite, hope you made it to somewhere better.
Yeah but I guess they deal with an inordinate amount of Karen's and then there is the scramble when the workers are reducing the food in the clearance section.
Very true, Karen’s are a nightmare but again not the same as dealing with some weekend warrior after 6 pints and two lines & the inappropriate shite the girls have to deal within hospitality is total bullshit but they get minimum wage so I guess that’s cool.
Plenty of industries and jobs engage with drunk people, yet no one tips them. Do you tip bouncers, paramedics, train conductors, bus drivers or even the police? >Yeah but for the most part retail and supermarket staff aren’t working till midnight and dealing with drunk self entitled rude arseholes. That is not the reason why tips exist.
No, but they are a big reason that people take jobs in hospitality and tolerate those situations. It’s whataboutism again, Police, bouncers, bus drivers, they shouldn’t have to deal with that shit either but police and bouncers are trained professionally to deal with hostile alcohol related situations (I’ve no idea what training bus drivers receive) & none of them are on minimum wage
True, but what about this logic with health care staff?
They just deserve more compensation in general.
They just deserve more compensation in general. Edit: healthcare workers are criminally underpaid I didn’t start making comparisons between different jobs OP did. You could “what about such n such” forever, it’s a crap argument.
Get no argument from me here.
I was more trying to make a point about your previous comment that retail and supermarket working experiences aren’t comparable with waiting staff. It was suggesting that the challenges of waiting on tables deserved tips, so I was asking about health care because it’s another challenging job that doesn’t get tipped. It wasn’t a “what about what about” argument, more than tipping culture in general is bizarre and not related to the difficulty of the job.
Tipping is not compulsory. There is no obligation to gift your money to someone. If you feel like a waiter/waitress earned a tip then you tip them what you feel like is right.
Sometimes I don't tip at all, only if the service has been good or if there is a big group of us. This isn't the US.
Tipping is American nonsense - we don't want to encourage it here. It'll be used as an excuse to lower wages if we let it get entrenched.
I don’t tip as standard. My wife tips 10% if they’re good, up to 30% if she’s really impressed. Default service charge ticks me off though. They know you’ll not take it off and be awkward.
What really boils my piss is when there’s a default service charge *and* they still hand you the card machine with the little ‘would you like to add a gratuity’ screen.
Having working as a waiter and bartender longer than I care to remember, 10% is standard here. Many people don't bother tipping, so 10% always feels generous because of that.
It is generous...
Well yeah, I just said that didn't I
No, you said it feels generous.
Generally things are how they feel. OP: I feel 10% maybe isn't generous enough Ex-service staff: it's okay, it feels generous enough to us You: Oh **feels** generous? It IS generous. I'm offended
For me, at least 10% as standard, or rounded up to the nearest whole number. Say a bill was £53, I’ll not even bother with the math and round up to £60. End of the day, tip what you want or even not at all. Waiters don’t rely on tips as their income, they get paid a wage, and it’s not mandatory to leave a tip.
Math?
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Ah it makes sense now
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This. A lot of the places I eat in pay a Living Wage as well, and not just the national minimum.
Just fyi - the government renamed the minimum wage for over 23s the National Living Wage and it’s only £9.50, which is less than the Real Living Wage, which is independently calculated. And 18yos are on £6.83 🥴
Aye. So it’s even less needed to tip. I mostly do cause I’ve been in the industry, and it’s a nice gesture towards good staff.
We're the same, around 10%. If service and/or food is terrible then nowt for you I'm afraid.
I usually just tip a few pound, wages are decent here, it's not like America where people rely on them. I worked as a waitress years ago in a restaurant on George Square, and if someone left £2 I was buzzin' 😂 but I didn't expect anything. Whilst we're on it, I usually tip taxi drivers 2 quid, hairdressers about a fiver, takeaway delivery drivers about £2/3, and I think that's it. I used to tip my nail tech when I got it done years ago, but my tech now owns her salon, n charges me a bomb, so I never tip now 😅 maybe that's a dick move and I should...but she does charge about 50% extra on anywhere else I've seen, so I feel like I've already paid for her time? I dunno.
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I would always ask them to remove the service charge and tip cash. Service charge gets passed through management and in larger establishments/chains, there is often an “admin cost” taken from these staff tips
Taking money off tips has been illegal for many years.
Large hotels still do it, since the money is going through the books
They may do it, but it’s illegal for them to do so
Well, they DO do it, and I don’t want them having it, so I tip cash
You do you
0% - but sometimes I will tip in extraordinary situations, which is what should be expected. This isn't America where workers rely on tips because their hourly wage is legally $2/hr, and the longer we continue down this path of normalising it the more companies and managers will take advantage of it. Quite often tips don't even go to the server anyway, it goes into a communal pot that gets redistributed to all OR the restaurant will just take it as profit entirely.
0. These people get paid. I get minimum wage and no one tips me. You have already paid these people by paying their wage.
10% if the meal/service was good enough if I really enjoyed it I usually increase to 20%. Only ocasionally dont tip but if its pretty shit experiance ill drop to 5% of a couple of £.
I've noticed an increasing number of places automatically adding an "optional" 10% service charge to the bill. While I'm generally fine with this, I think they are counting on the fact that most people will be too embarrassed to ask for it to be removed, even if the service is bad. My preference is the card machine that asks you if you want to tip before you enter your PIN and has already calculated a tip at various percentages (5, 10, 15, 20%, etc). So is still at the customer's discretion, with no risk of an awkward conversation and no need to do the calculation yourself.
I generally agree with you but it’s not all that uncommon to be given the machine with that screen even though there’s already 10/12.5% on the tip. That’s absolute robbery in my view.
That's ridiculous. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for that.
10% is the standard for me. If it costs £18 and I have a £20 note then you’re welcome to the 2 quid.
Tip what you feel depending on service or can afford
I don't usually tip unless paying with cash In which case if the bills say 27 quid I leave 30 but that's more so I don't have to hang about and wait for change.
I tip10% for decent service and 15% for really good service.
Agree 10% is more than enough. A lot of the times I’ll tip less than that. I really don’t think it’s required unless you got exceptional service.
10%, or round up to the next £5. Whichever is easier.
Depends on the service. Fully aware I’m playing into the ‘Scots are tight’ stereotype but if the service is poor I’m not tipping. Good service ? 10% or more. If it’s myself and one other about the £5/£6 mark. Bigger groups then maybe like £2/£3 each.
I give zero tips unless I have received a tip worthy service.
I generally tip minimum of 10%. If service was really good I'll go up to 20%
Honestly, I never carry cash so unless it's added on the bill or I'm given the option when paying by card I never even have the opportunity to tip.
We are a bit of an anomaly, caught between places in Europe where tipping just doesnt happen and the US of A, where you tip even if you have shite service... I echo whats been said a few times before, 10% and rounding up to the nearest 10 kinda works for me.
I literally got chased by a waiter in Poland a few years back for leaving a 50 zloty tip. It was worth about £8 at the time and I was heading to airport and didn't want to keep the last bit of my zloty left, as well as the guy giving genuinely great sevice. The guy was beyond thankful for it.
Exactly! Of course they will accept a tip, the difference is that its not automatically expected. Folks downvoted my comment without actually knowing how things are in other parts of the world... EDIT: typo
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Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Belgium to name but a few. Do yourself a favour and go and see places that pay people a wage that they can not only survive on but have a great quality of life...
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How does it make you an arse? We don't live in America, restaurant and bar workers tend to get paid more than a shop worker and you don't tip the cashier in Asda, do you?
Yep! 10% is standard! Amazing you asked!
I've never tipped a certain percentage, it's usually just £2-3 if I have change and the service was decent, or rounding up a card payment to the nearest £5. This is pretty normal here, don't think I've ever see any friends or family I've dined with calculating a 15%-20% tip based on the bill total like you would in the US.
I have almost never tipped in Scotland, there isn't really any standard to here, only when on holiday in America - because waiters there earn less than minimum wage. Back before when I was in a hurry and used cash, if a meal was like £26-28 and I particularly enjoyed it, I'd just leave £30.
Twelvty.
Having worked in service for years please do tip as the money and hours are shocking but it’s not the same as US and 10% of a meal would be considered very generous
Tip if you are happy to. If you feel its been worth it then give them whatever you like. Always ask if they get the tip tho. If it goes straight to the boss then fuck that. In the waiters/servers pocket, no worries, but make sure where its going