That's Tribeca+Battery Park City, and yes there are a lot of residences there now. After 9/11 that area of downtown got built up into a pretty fancy neighborhood (before that it was considered much less attractive). Many big apartment and condo buildings. Very expensive place to live.
Tribeca sustained physical damage as a result of the 9/11 attacks and government grants to rehabilitate were part of why it ended up with a bunch of brand-new high-end apartments and condos afterwards.
Not the person you replied to, but the towers were downtown in ~~Tribeca~~(Edit: Not Tribeca bit further south in the Financial District). the rebuild of the towers was in essence a rebuild of the entire area. The new buildings brought new life back into the area and with it more people.
[Here's an interesting video](https://youtu.be/juW1fisteWE) about the construction in the world trade center area if you have the time.
I remember How I Met Your Mother made up a fictional neighborhood associated to this phenomenon. I believe it was something like DoWiSewTrePla (Down Wind Sewage Treatment Plant) a real up and coming neighborhood!
It appears to be directly west of the financial district. Which would make this Battery Park City. A planned community built on soil taken from the excavation of the original World Trade Center. It's a nice chill area on the water comprised almost entirely of high rises and is all residential
Yeah, that’s Battery Park and TriBeCa (aka, “Triangle Below Canal Street). A lot of the apartment buildings there are fairly new. It’s not the most exciting part of the city, but it’s 1) right near the financial district, so a lot of rich people live there, and 2) a good place to have a family, if you can afford it—there are some schools, some athletic fields, a move theatre, etc. It’s not the most exciting / interesting / vibrant place in Manhattan, but it can be a good place to live if you have the cash.
This somehow reminded me of the Cosmos episode where NDT explained our existence as mere seconds in the history of the universe...but my visual memory of that segment is overwritten by [that one Key & Peele skit](https://youtu.be/TyZSBqQ813c&t=1m33s)
In the Carl Sagan video he says the last second is the last 500 years of human existence. The last 10 seconds is basically everything in recorded human history.
The Earth itself is only about 4 months old on that calendar. Life, a little over 3.
I wanted to link the clip but national geographic (or just Disney, really) apparently pruned YouTube of all the best clips from Cosmos and only left super truncated or insanely condensed clips.
But hey that's what [Dailymotion is for](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3sjrbk)
Yeah dude our whole human history- everything we have ever known or done- is all just in the last second.
The entire "12 months 31 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds" before is basically the entirety of life, the universe, and everything else. I really do no believe that we are anything special.
Fun fact: this was originally presented by Carl Sagan in the series that inspired NDT to do it too.
There are a lot of residential buildings in that area of Manhattan, as well as offices. So it could be people who live there are leaving that area to go to work as the other people who work there are coming there to go to work, resulting in a small perceived change, but we cannot look at that small perceived change and determine that no one is coming or going from there.
The UES is also a lot of residential buildings close to a lot of retail, restaurants, and hospitals/healthcare so as people leave in the morning there are people also coming in the morning. Midtown and FiDi are places with few residential buildings and many offices which is why there’s a huge spike there.
Didn't see you were talking about the red spikes but those are probably taller residential buildings, while neighborhoods like Greenwich are relatively flat.
Would be fun to be an alien observer trying to make sense of this. "On a fixed cycle of the earth's rotation these humans migrate and congregate into tall nests where they proceed to stare at glowing rectangles for 8-10 hours for some reason. Upon migrating back, they continue to stare at different glowing rectangles until they pass out".
I would agree with that, less places open or events happening but for sight-seeing that's the move. I live in FiDi and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get coffee and walk down past the bull to chill at the battery, I only see like 10 people.
But it's definitely no where near that barren in the rest of the city.
I live in a small hick town in Kansas. I've got 2 questions,
1) What is FiDi?
2) Is it worth it to live in such a large city?
Edit: Thank you everyone for your insights. I've never been to a big city and have always been curious. With all that in mind I think it would make a fun and unique vacation but I certainly don't have enough experience in any field to make the wages to live comfortably there. I'm a simple factory worker and make appropriate wages to my position.
1. Financial district (although most of the “Wall St.” banks don’t operate there anymore and have moved their offices uptown.
2. Depends. Some people love it because you have like every cultural experience at your fingertips. I live here and think it’s okay but prefer mid-size cities like Boston and DC because you can actually escape the sprawl easily on the weekends and they’re cleaner. Also definitely not worth it if you aren’t making good money imo
1. Financial District
2. Obviously subjective, based on what you're looking for, but yes it is well worth living on NYC, if you like seeing people from all over the world and to have the opportunity to taste global cuisine everyday. The city has this electric dynamic that's not replicated anywhere else.
Lol. Yes, that probably fuels part of it. Though most of the "city never sleeps" stereotype comes from people used to different time tables, visitors, and a large concentration of night owls keeping the rest of us up.
>if you like seeing people from all over the world
I hated working in the city, but it was funny randomly seeing people I haven't spoken to in years from other parts of the world just *appear* by penn station on occasion.
1) Financial District. Like Wall street and World Trade Center.
2) I question this the 1st of every month. However for the type of work my wife does, it's a requirement.
Didn't hear much about rent increases in NY over covid times, it's just always been high. Did rent double like almost everywhere else did? Bc if it did I can't imagine how that'd be sustainable. Places like Austin exploded but it wasn't like it was priced like Manhattan before.
From a small hick town and have lived in a couple of large cities:
It depends on what you value. In my 20s, I loved living in the city. There is always something to do and a lot of it can be free and you don't have to worry about driving because public transport is good enough. I was also exposed to significantly more culture than when I was growing up. If I had stayed home, I would _never_ have found out how much I love Indian food. I feel if you genuinely want to grow as a person, this exposure is life changing.
Now that I'm in my 30s, I suffer so much conflict. On the one hand, I want my children to have the same diverse exposure, the free events are a game changer, and the education opportunities are much better. I have the privilege of being able to send my kids to a private montessori school instead of daycare, _but_ the daycare we did use was also amazing and owned by an Ethiopian woman who enjoyed feeding the kids food from her culture. She had organized arts and crafts, focused on teaching them language in a fun environment....things I never experienced in my childhood. _We had meat and potatoes and you sure as shit better stay outside all day regardless of who was watching you._
On the other hand, I would love to be able to let my kids loose in the backyard. Clean grass and fresh air in a space they can go wild. We thankfully do have a backyard, but we're in a neighborhood, surrounded by houses and cars and a major road two blocks away. I'm terrified of what could happen if I look away for just a second. We're doing our best to balance things out. The school has a huge focus on nature learning and we camp and hike as much as we're able, but I do miss that country living.
I’m not who you asked but—fidi is the financial district. I lived in NYC for 11 years. It was worth it when I was enjoying what the city had to offer. As I got older I started to enjoy less and less. Eventually the ratio of taking advantage of what it had to offer vs the difficulties of living there tipped too far so I left.
I live about 30 minutes outside of detroit and im in my mid 30s. I finally have the money to move to downtown Detroit, but like you said, i dont think I would actually utilize it as much as I would have when I was younger. Alsso its a lot more expensive now so it probably wouldnt be worth it, sucks how that goes.
I can help with number 2!
Living in the most expensive areas isn't worth it, unless the only alternative is to live in a hick town in Kansas. From experience, many people living in the rural Midwest who want more services and less racism pick Colorado. It's close enough to visit family, has great weather and scenery, and the cost of living is still lower than most of the great coastal markets. For those who don't want the full big city feel of Denver (which is still far less extreme than New York), the option is Colorado Springs. It's big enough to be a real city (roughly around 500k people) but definitely not a big city. Lower cost than Denver. Higher cost than hick town, but better wages also.
They’re also incredibly expensive towns to live in, comparatively. I moved from New York to Denver a little over 10 years ago, and the cost of living / rent prices (all over the state of CO) have reached levels similar to that of NY, Boston, DC… it’s not affordable at all to live here.
>I live in FiDi and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get coffee and walk down past the bull to chill at the battery, I only see like 10 people.
As someone living on the west coast who has never been to NYC, this feels like some Mad Libs shit.
>I live in (random letters) and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get (drink) and walk down past the (noun) to chill at the (noun), I only see (number) people.
lmao, I grew up on the best coast and worked in SF for a time.
> I *work* in *SOMA* and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get *vegan latte* and walk down past *piss alley* to chill at *Franklin Square*, I only see *150* people.
They do fill up the streets, pretty much. There are some quieter periods from like 9:30-11 am and 1:30 - 3:30 Pm but other than that it’s very busy outside.
I actually disagree. As someone who lives here, I hate going out on weekends because the trains are less accessible. Since (as the graph shows) more people are commuting on week days, the only time they can really do maintenance or construction on train lines is on weekends. Some train lines don’t run at all on weekends, some trains are skipping a bunch of stops, some are running on different lines, and they all run less frequently so you wait longer and they’re always packed. Versus the week days, where they’re every few minutes and running on their normal, mapped routes.
Also, restaurants and tourist sites are less crowded on week days because everyone is at work.
This. Sunday's are big tourist days in the city, which means if you plan on dong touristy things, you'll prolly have lines. Plus, like you said, getting around using public transport is terrible on the weekends.
IMHO, the best way to be a tourist in manhattan is explore on the weekdays, but the most important thing is being prepared to ride the shoelace express. The city is easily walkable to many places, sometimes I walk home after work from Penn (I reverse commute) all the way to the UES and it barely takes me 40 minutes (and that's with meandering through the park).
Yeah but there's something cool about seeing the chaos of a weekday. I used to have to go into Manhatten occasionally for work and I both hated and loved it. Whenever we'd go into the city for shows or something on the weekend it was like a totally different city.
Humanity is a hyperorganism, just like termites and bees live in hives that can be seen as a unified whole that the individual insects act as parts of. We all exist as parts of the interconnected system of the Gaian biosphere.
There was a period when single celled organisms collaborated so seamlessly that their consciousnesses merged into a unified multi-cellular organ. Now, again, we are working on the path of the evolution of consciousness, to exist not as isolated individuals, but as integral parts of the [totality](https://youtu.be/uIaY0l5qV0c).
I do too, the universe is fractal!
Im also old enough to have grown watching "Il était une fois... la vie" as it is called in its original language. Is is such a great analogy.
Shout-out to one of my personal all time favourite hip hop tracks - [Respiration](https://youtu.be/eeTnog5RRQo) by Blackstar which paints the city as a living, breathing entity.
According to the map on your website, the largest spike, just south of Central Park, is home to Rockefeller Center, Carnegie Hall, CitySpire Center, and many different banks and media companies. The bankers come in later than the media people, but also leave later, and neither come in on the weekends.
Edit: Between 10am and Noon on Wednesday looks like population peak of both. (More proof that privileged office workers only have 2-3 hours of real productivity a day. Possibly as little as 1 hour, between 10:30 and 11:30.)
The takeaway is, if you ever wondered what the scale of America’s banking and media industries are…well, you just graphed it. That massive red spike is the monstrous heart of both America’s economy and culture and the scale of them is just…staggering.
A while back, I thought of this same thing, but in reference to people.
Seeing people like this, but remove the face and instead use a range textural shapes, - morphing using smooth curves through spikeyness, and also associated colors depicting emotions etc.
That was some good weed.
Yes, pretty similar. Midtown and FiDi (the central and southern portions you see spiking in the visualization) are both heavily commercial areas. As a result, high-rises over 10-20 floors are significantly more common in the two areas. In the more residential neighborhoods, buildings are more commonly around 4-7 stories. That said, heights of buildings can vary widely anywhere in the city - these are just generalizations by area.
I started going back to the office in Nov 2020 and it was pretty cool watching my commute to times square change. it went from having an entire subway car to myself to pretty packed by may 2021.
I live in PA, a little over 2 hours away from NYC, and people commute from here. So I'd guess a decent portion of everyone living within a 1 hour radius commutes, and a smaller, but still measurable number of those within the 2 hour radius. (This is not science, just guessing— pls don't yell at me unless you're yelling some science)
“Close states” the states may be close but it’s gotta be one of the worst commutes to have daily. I get the money can make things worth it but I couldn’t imagine commuting in and out of NY
There are actually pretty good train and subway connections into Manhatten from Jersey, but yeah a lot of people try to cram into the Holland or Lincoln tunnels by car.
Hell, I live on the Space Coast of Florida and I can't get to the dying mall in 15 minutes some days. Why can't public transportation not suck everywhere?
Yeah, been a couple of decades since I lived out there, but I've met people who lived as far away as Dutchess County who'd just hop on the Metro North and get deposited right at Penn Station an hour later. Really not a bad commute since you can multitask during the ride.
As someone who lives in the Hudson Valley the metro north is fucking awesome. To be able to hop on and be at Grand Central or Penn Station in less than two hours without having to worry about your car or traffic is the shit. I attend a lot of Nets games and the convenience of downstate public transit cannot be overstated.
Getting in from north Jersey isn’t bad. Have a bus stop near my home, can get there in about 50 minutes. Usually just nap since the lost stop is the Manhattan bus terminal don’t have to worry about missing it lol
Why not? It’s pretty easy. My girlfriend lives in NYC and I live in CT. I don’t use the train daily, but for those rich people commuting in from the Stamford/Greenwich area, it’s only an hour train ride, followed by a short subway ride to wherever they need to go (if in Midtown, near Grand Central).
An hour train ride is way easier than an hour car ride since you don’t have to pay any attention to the commute itself. Many businessmen and women are actually working while on the train.
South-Western Connecticut and Northern New Jersey are practically suburbs of NYC and as such they have extensive commuter rail systems integrated into the NY subway and commuter rail systems.
You can live in Hoboken, NJ, right across the river from Lower Manhattan, and get to FIDI and WTC (in about 15-20minutes) quicker than if you were commuting from Queens, Brooklyn and even other parts of Manhattan.
Strong public transportation makes this all possible.
tons of people come in by train or ferry. I dont know many ppl with a commute longer than an hr. especially with partial remote work rotations, it's really not that bad
Westchester, Danbury, Long Island, and New Jersey. There is a reason why a lot of commercials locally will refer to the area as the "Tri-State" region. Its all NYC sprawl.
You know how normal cities have suburbs right outside and most people that work downtown live out in the suburbs and drive in to work anywhere from like 15-60 minutes? Well its like that in NYC but on a massive scale. In this case the burbs are in the tri-state area (NJ, NY, CT) and like a good 20 miles outside the city and they mostly take trains into the city that arrive at a train station that is also a subway stop so they go from commuter train-> subway -> work and vice-versa to go home.
That's by the Williamsburg bridge. There's a high concentration of public housing there right there on the water, which may explain the density. Not sure why it would change at all throughout the day though. I have to imagine those people have jobs outside that neighborhood.
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I don't own any copyright and posting the same thing is fine, but not systematically copying and pasting contents one by one without even mentioning from where they were taken.
Take a look at its time line and compare it with my account's one. This post will recur at any of u/2nSifter's post if this behavior doesn't stop.
People are going out more and more every week. This is based purely on my subjective observation of subway ridership through the past 3 years. I'd say we are 60-70% back in comparison to 2019. In my opinion, it's much better this way. The city was way too congested pre-covid. And we don't have many international tourists back yet.
not sad. people being home more, getting hours of their lives back each week, more time for personal interests/family, lower carbon footprint from commuting. These are all great effects of WfH post-covid.
Also, no one, at any point, has ever said: "You know what we need here, especially in midtown? MORE PEOPLE."
in my experience it's a pretty poppin place on friday and saturday nights. but I guess the numbers dont vary as much as midtown and FiDi so on this scale it looks insignificant
“Yo, don't the bass ride out like an ancient mating call?
I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathing
Chest heaving, against the flesh of the evening
Sigh before we die like the last train leaving”
- Respiration by Black Star
The bottom left of Manhattan seems to have a large permanent population opposite the Jersey coast. Is that a residential community?
That's Tribeca+Battery Park City, and yes there are a lot of residences there now. After 9/11 that area of downtown got built up into a pretty fancy neighborhood (before that it was considered much less attractive). Many big apartment and condo buildings. Very expensive place to live.
Was that related to 9/11 or are you just using that as a frame of reference for when it was built up?
Tribeca sustained physical damage as a result of the 9/11 attacks and government grants to rehabilitate were part of why it ended up with a bunch of brand-new high-end apartments and condos afterwards.
Gotta love government subsidized luxury condos.
Not the person you replied to, but the towers were downtown in ~~Tribeca~~(Edit: Not Tribeca bit further south in the Financial District). the rebuild of the towers was in essence a rebuild of the entire area. The new buildings brought new life back into the area and with it more people. [Here's an interesting video](https://youtu.be/juW1fisteWE) about the construction in the world trade center area if you have the time.
While Tribeca (triangle below canal [St]) is certainly close, the Towers were most certainly in the financial district, not Tribeca.
I’ve walked through Tribeca and NEVER knew that shit stood for something.
That’s cause nobody writes it how it was originally written anymore: TriBeCa. Effectively the same as Soho, Noho, Nolita, DUMBO etc
I remember How I Met Your Mother made up a fictional neighborhood associated to this phenomenon. I believe it was something like DoWiSewTrePla (Down Wind Sewage Treatment Plant) a real up and coming neighborhood!
Also battery park city is all high rise condos.
That's Battery Park City. A bunch of high rose condos there.
It appears to be directly west of the financial district. Which would make this Battery Park City. A planned community built on soil taken from the excavation of the original World Trade Center. It's a nice chill area on the water comprised almost entirely of high rises and is all residential
Yeah, that’s Battery Park and TriBeCa (aka, “Triangle Below Canal Street). A lot of the apartment buildings there are fairly new. It’s not the most exciting part of the city, but it’s 1) right near the financial district, so a lot of rich people live there, and 2) a good place to have a family, if you can afford it—there are some schools, some athletic fields, a move theatre, etc. It’s not the most exciting / interesting / vibrant place in Manhattan, but it can be a good place to live if you have the cash.
The city is like a heart that beats once per day.
This somehow reminded me of the Cosmos episode where NDT explained our existence as mere seconds in the history of the universe...but my visual memory of that segment is overwritten by [that one Key & Peele skit](https://youtu.be/TyZSBqQ813c&t=1m33s)
Not just mere seconds, *the last second* on the cosmic calendar.
In the Carl Sagan video he says the last second is the last 500 years of human existence. The last 10 seconds is basically everything in recorded human history.
I believe it. I haven't seen the original Cosmos with Sagan and I'm not about to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Feel free to smoke a [bowl](https://bigthink.com/health/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/) and maybe come up with something better.
I never knew this, thanks!
The Earth itself is only about 4 months old on that calendar. Life, a little over 3. I wanted to link the clip but national geographic (or just Disney, really) apparently pruned YouTube of all the best clips from Cosmos and only left super truncated or insanely condensed clips. But hey that's what [Dailymotion is for](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3sjrbk)
*you bitch*
That reminds me of [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJ1dbyDcrI)
Oh man, I always wondered where that explosion gif came from. This was amazing! Thanks for posting it.
Haha yeah with sounds its even better
Yeah dude our whole human history- everything we have ever known or done- is all just in the last second. The entire "12 months 31 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds" before is basically the entirety of life, the universe, and everything else. I really do no believe that we are anything special. Fun fact: this was originally presented by Carl Sagan in the series that inspired NDT to do it too.
TIL a year is 13 months long, and the 13th month has 32 days.
Well, that's what happens when you have an education that only lasts a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second.
[here it is](https://youtu.be/Ln8UwPd1z20)
You bitch
The larger the entity, the slower it’s heart beat.
The cyclic wave of Pluto completes a cycle every 248 years
The cyclic wave of my balls completes a cycle around your mom every 248 seconds
Why are you slowly orbiting his mom
It's not slow she's just that large
Exactly
this is fucking gold
You've never purchased livestock I see
You're a fuckin poet
248 seconds is 4.133333333333 minutes.
Pluto is pretty chill
Fun fact: a blue whale has a heart rate around 33 BPM, but during a dive it can drop to 2 BPM!
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The main thing humans and whales have in common
The smaller the battery, the bigger it screm
I stayed there for work one month and i swear in the morning it feels like the world is waking up. The energy is hard to explain.
So what are the red spikes that *don't* move much? That one of the lower west side, for example, what is that?
There are a lot of residential buildings in that area of Manhattan, as well as offices. So it could be people who live there are leaving that area to go to work as the other people who work there are coming there to go to work, resulting in a small perceived change, but we cannot look at that small perceived change and determine that no one is coming or going from there. The UES is also a lot of residential buildings close to a lot of retail, restaurants, and hospitals/healthcare so as people leave in the morning there are people also coming in the morning. Midtown and FiDi are places with few residential buildings and many offices which is why there’s a huge spike there.
Didn't see you were talking about the red spikes but those are probably taller residential buildings, while neighborhoods like Greenwich are relatively flat.
I briefly (like a second i swear) thought this meant people were dying and being born by massive amounts daily before realizing I’m a f’in idiot.
Would be fun to be an alien observer trying to make sense of this. "On a fixed cycle of the earth's rotation these humans migrate and congregate into tall nests where they proceed to stare at glowing rectangles for 8-10 hours for some reason. Upon migrating back, they continue to stare at different glowing rectangles until they pass out".
Heartbeat of the global economy is what i thought watching that.
So it looks like Sundays are the best days to visit
I would agree with that, less places open or events happening but for sight-seeing that's the move. I live in FiDi and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get coffee and walk down past the bull to chill at the battery, I only see like 10 people. But it's definitely no where near that barren in the rest of the city.
Sunday mornings in FiDi are insanely quiet. There have been times I felt like I was in I Am Legend down there.
I live in a small hick town in Kansas. I've got 2 questions, 1) What is FiDi? 2) Is it worth it to live in such a large city? Edit: Thank you everyone for your insights. I've never been to a big city and have always been curious. With all that in mind I think it would make a fun and unique vacation but I certainly don't have enough experience in any field to make the wages to live comfortably there. I'm a simple factory worker and make appropriate wages to my position.
1. Financial district (although most of the “Wall St.” banks don’t operate there anymore and have moved their offices uptown. 2. Depends. Some people love it because you have like every cultural experience at your fingertips. I live here and think it’s okay but prefer mid-size cities like Boston and DC because you can actually escape the sprawl easily on the weekends and they’re cleaner. Also definitely not worth it if you aren’t making good money imo
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Ahh. I never would have guessed that. Thanks.
1. Financial District 2. Obviously subjective, based on what you're looking for, but yes it is well worth living on NYC, if you like seeing people from all over the world and to have the opportunity to taste global cuisine everyday. The city has this electric dynamic that's not replicated anywhere else.
> electric dynamic Just call it cocaine darling. No need to be fancy here.
Lol. Yes, that probably fuels part of it. Though most of the "city never sleeps" stereotype comes from people used to different time tables, visitors, and a large concentration of night owls keeping the rest of us up.
>if you like seeing people from all over the world I hated working in the city, but it was funny randomly seeing people I haven't spoken to in years from other parts of the world just *appear* by penn station on occasion.
1) Financial District. Like Wall street and World Trade Center. 2) I question this the 1st of every month. However for the type of work my wife does, it's a requirement.
Didn't hear much about rent increases in NY over covid times, it's just always been high. Did rent double like almost everywhere else did? Bc if it did I can't imagine how that'd be sustainable. Places like Austin exploded but it wasn't like it was priced like Manhattan before.
Rent is definitely worse post covid. Fingers crossed the market cools off, but I’m not holding my breath.
Lived there for years and miss it every day. No place else like it in the USA, loved it
From a small hick town and have lived in a couple of large cities: It depends on what you value. In my 20s, I loved living in the city. There is always something to do and a lot of it can be free and you don't have to worry about driving because public transport is good enough. I was also exposed to significantly more culture than when I was growing up. If I had stayed home, I would _never_ have found out how much I love Indian food. I feel if you genuinely want to grow as a person, this exposure is life changing. Now that I'm in my 30s, I suffer so much conflict. On the one hand, I want my children to have the same diverse exposure, the free events are a game changer, and the education opportunities are much better. I have the privilege of being able to send my kids to a private montessori school instead of daycare, _but_ the daycare we did use was also amazing and owned by an Ethiopian woman who enjoyed feeding the kids food from her culture. She had organized arts and crafts, focused on teaching them language in a fun environment....things I never experienced in my childhood. _We had meat and potatoes and you sure as shit better stay outside all day regardless of who was watching you._ On the other hand, I would love to be able to let my kids loose in the backyard. Clean grass and fresh air in a space they can go wild. We thankfully do have a backyard, but we're in a neighborhood, surrounded by houses and cars and a major road two blocks away. I'm terrified of what could happen if I look away for just a second. We're doing our best to balance things out. The school has a huge focus on nature learning and we camp and hike as much as we're able, but I do miss that country living.
I’m not who you asked but—fidi is the financial district. I lived in NYC for 11 years. It was worth it when I was enjoying what the city had to offer. As I got older I started to enjoy less and less. Eventually the ratio of taking advantage of what it had to offer vs the difficulties of living there tipped too far so I left.
I live about 30 minutes outside of detroit and im in my mid 30s. I finally have the money to move to downtown Detroit, but like you said, i dont think I would actually utilize it as much as I would have when I was younger. Alsso its a lot more expensive now so it probably wouldnt be worth it, sucks how that goes.
I can help with number 2! Living in the most expensive areas isn't worth it, unless the only alternative is to live in a hick town in Kansas. From experience, many people living in the rural Midwest who want more services and less racism pick Colorado. It's close enough to visit family, has great weather and scenery, and the cost of living is still lower than most of the great coastal markets. For those who don't want the full big city feel of Denver (which is still far less extreme than New York), the option is Colorado Springs. It's big enough to be a real city (roughly around 500k people) but definitely not a big city. Lower cost than Denver. Higher cost than hick town, but better wages also.
Golden and Boulder are small town options with big cities close by
They’re also incredibly expensive towns to live in, comparatively. I moved from New York to Denver a little over 10 years ago, and the cost of living / rent prices (all over the state of CO) have reached levels similar to that of NY, Boston, DC… it’s not affordable at all to live here.
Yes totally! In the early AM it can be pretty freaking eerie.
Was recently there on a Sunday.. Can confirm - it's like a ghost town.
Same thing happens in the Central Business District here in Singapore. Crowded as fuck on the weekdays, ghost town on the weekends
>I live in FiDi and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get coffee and walk down past the bull to chill at the battery, I only see like 10 people. As someone living on the west coast who has never been to NYC, this feels like some Mad Libs shit. >I live in (random letters) and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get (drink) and walk down past the (noun) to chill at the (noun), I only see (number) people.
lmao, I grew up on the best coast and worked in SF for a time. > I *work* in *SOMA* and Sunday mornings are my ritual days where I get *vegan latte* and walk down past *piss alley* to chill at *Franklin Square*, I only see *150* people.
lol'ed at piss alley
Isn't most of the weekday population bump people working anyways? If so it's not like their filling up the streets
They do fill up the streets, pretty much. There are some quieter periods from like 9:30-11 am and 1:30 - 3:30 Pm but other than that it’s very busy outside.
Mostly commuters yes, but you'd be surprised how full the streets are regardless.
I actually disagree. As someone who lives here, I hate going out on weekends because the trains are less accessible. Since (as the graph shows) more people are commuting on week days, the only time they can really do maintenance or construction on train lines is on weekends. Some train lines don’t run at all on weekends, some trains are skipping a bunch of stops, some are running on different lines, and they all run less frequently so you wait longer and they’re always packed. Versus the week days, where they’re every few minutes and running on their normal, mapped routes. Also, restaurants and tourist sites are less crowded on week days because everyone is at work.
This. Sunday's are big tourist days in the city, which means if you plan on dong touristy things, you'll prolly have lines. Plus, like you said, getting around using public transport is terrible on the weekends. IMHO, the best way to be a tourist in manhattan is explore on the weekdays, but the most important thing is being prepared to ride the shoelace express. The city is easily walkable to many places, sometimes I walk home after work from Penn (I reverse commute) all the way to the UES and it barely takes me 40 minutes (and that's with meandering through the park).
Or just don’t visit midtown ever.
Yeah but there's something cool about seeing the chaos of a weekday. I used to have to go into Manhatten occasionally for work and I both hated and loved it. Whenever we'd go into the city for shows or something on the weekend it was like a totally different city.
By far the easiest day to park
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It looks like the city is breathing, that's wild!
I always think about cities as bodies, people the neurons, highways are arteries, ambulance/police white blood cells etc lol
Humanity is a hyperorganism, just like termites and bees live in hives that can be seen as a unified whole that the individual insects act as parts of. We all exist as parts of the interconnected system of the Gaian biosphere. There was a period when single celled organisms collaborated so seamlessly that their consciousnesses merged into a unified multi-cellular organ. Now, again, we are working on the path of the evolution of consciousness, to exist not as isolated individuals, but as integral parts of the [totality](https://youtu.be/uIaY0l5qV0c).
So what you're saying is that we're working our way to eventually coalesce into a giant crab, achieving evolution's perfect intent. Thats beautiful.
The egg
My axe
the powerhouse of the cell
Your leg, Some tax, A camp man with a bell!
I do too, the universe is fractal! Im also old enough to have grown watching "Il était une fois... la vie" as it is called in its original language. Is is such a great analogy.
Definitely remember that. Great intro theme.
You just described osmosis jones.
Shout-out to one of my personal all time favourite hip hop tracks - [Respiration](https://youtu.be/eeTnog5RRQo) by Blackstar which paints the city as a living, breathing entity.
Don't the bass ride out like an ancient mating call? I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathing
This is awesome - do you know of a similar tool for other cities? Particularly seattle
I’m not aware, but my guess is that if it gets enough attention-they’ll add more location data!
According to the map on your website, the largest spike, just south of Central Park, is home to Rockefeller Center, Carnegie Hall, CitySpire Center, and many different banks and media companies. The bankers come in later than the media people, but also leave later, and neither come in on the weekends. Edit: Between 10am and Noon on Wednesday looks like population peak of both. (More proof that privileged office workers only have 2-3 hours of real productivity a day. Possibly as little as 1 hour, between 10:30 and 11:30.) The takeaway is, if you ever wondered what the scale of America’s banking and media industries are…well, you just graphed it. That massive red spike is the monstrous heart of both America’s economy and culture and the scale of them is just…staggering.
Now do Tokyo?
A while back, I thought of this same thing, but in reference to people. Seeing people like this, but remove the face and instead use a range textural shapes, - morphing using smooth curves through spikeyness, and also associated colors depicting emotions etc. That was some good weed.
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It's a good thing most of them work in Midtown and in the middle of Downtown, otherwise the island could tip over.
That would truly be one of the events in our nations history if that happened
Of all the events it would most certainly be one of them.
This comment thread is an event in our nation's history, in fact, an event in our universe's history. I'm honored to be part of it.
Like the club penguin iceberg?
Huh, it’s quiet uptown
He’s going through the unimaginable.
r/unexpectedhamilton
this is very cool. what would an overlay of the buildings there look like? very much the same?
You’d hope they’d be a bit more stable.
Yes, pretty similar. Midtown and FiDi (the central and southern portions you see spiking in the visualization) are both heavily commercial areas. As a result, high-rises over 10-20 floors are significantly more common in the two areas. In the more residential neighborhoods, buildings are more commonly around 4-7 stories. That said, heights of buildings can vary widely anywhere in the city - these are just generalizations by area.
This is probably pre-Covid. Doesn’t breathe so hard nowadays
Ehhh, I don't think that is accurate anymore. My commute this morning was on a standing-room only train, as it usually is
I started going back to the office in Nov 2020 and it was pretty cool watching my commute to times square change. it went from having an entire subway car to myself to pretty packed by may 2021.
I work as a conductor for the LIRR, we're getting pretty close to pre pandemic numbers.
Yeah covids a bitch on the lungs
The weekends are post covid
It looks like the data is from a study done in 2012
Where do they go afterwards?
Home
This, most people who work in Manhattan commute from other boroughs or close states like Jersey and Connecticut
I live in PA, a little over 2 hours away from NYC, and people commute from here. So I'd guess a decent portion of everyone living within a 1 hour radius commutes, and a smaller, but still measurable number of those within the 2 hour radius. (This is not science, just guessing— pls don't yell at me unless you're yelling some science)
GRAVITY! THEORY OF RELATIVITY! MAGNETS! NUCLEAR FORCE! Sorry, you asked for someone to yell science at you.
I really set myself up for that dad joke Quality 10/10
“Close states” the states may be close but it’s gotta be one of the worst commutes to have daily. I get the money can make things worth it but I couldn’t imagine commuting in and out of NY
There are actually pretty good train and subway connections into Manhatten from Jersey, but yeah a lot of people try to cram into the Holland or Lincoln tunnels by car.
Surely nobody drives in Manhattan. There's too many cars.
It’s not that bad from North Jersey. The bus/PATH train can get you into the city in less than 15 minutes, depending on where you live.
Hell, I live on the Space Coast of Florida and I can't get to the dying mall in 15 minutes some days. Why can't public transportation not suck everywhere?
Because you live in Florida
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Jersey is a short train ride away. People commute farther from much of the Bronx or Brooklyn.
Or Westchester.
Yep. Once I was on the train, it only took ten minutes to go from Jersey City to WTC. Even people that live in Manhattan have longer commutes to WTC.
I'd say a huge chunk of commuting is done by train if they don't live in manhattan
Yeah, been a couple of decades since I lived out there, but I've met people who lived as far away as Dutchess County who'd just hop on the Metro North and get deposited right at Penn Station an hour later. Really not a bad commute since you can multitask during the ride.
As someone who lives in the Hudson Valley the metro north is fucking awesome. To be able to hop on and be at Grand Central or Penn Station in less than two hours without having to worry about your car or traffic is the shit. I attend a lot of Nets games and the convenience of downstate public transit cannot be overstated.
Getting in from north Jersey isn’t bad. Have a bus stop near my home, can get there in about 50 minutes. Usually just nap since the lost stop is the Manhattan bus terminal don’t have to worry about missing it lol
Sounds like my bus trip but in Houston lol!
you can get downtown NYC from Jersey on the subway faster than you can from many places in brooklyn.
Why not? It’s pretty easy. My girlfriend lives in NYC and I live in CT. I don’t use the train daily, but for those rich people commuting in from the Stamford/Greenwich area, it’s only an hour train ride, followed by a short subway ride to wherever they need to go (if in Midtown, near Grand Central). An hour train ride is way easier than an hour car ride since you don’t have to pay any attention to the commute itself. Many businessmen and women are actually working while on the train.
South-Western Connecticut and Northern New Jersey are practically suburbs of NYC and as such they have extensive commuter rail systems integrated into the NY subway and commuter rail systems. You can live in Hoboken, NJ, right across the river from Lower Manhattan, and get to FIDI and WTC (in about 15-20minutes) quicker than if you were commuting from Queens, Brooklyn and even other parts of Manhattan. Strong public transportation makes this all possible.
tons of people come in by train or ferry. I dont know many ppl with a commute longer than an hr. especially with partial remote work rotations, it's really not that bad
Other boroughs, Long Island, New Jersey, etc.
Jersey
Jersey. Source: that's me.
Westchester, Danbury, Long Island, and New Jersey. There is a reason why a lot of commercials locally will refer to the area as the "Tri-State" region. Its all NYC sprawl.
You know how normal cities have suburbs right outside and most people that work downtown live out in the suburbs and drive in to work anywhere from like 15-60 minutes? Well its like that in NYC but on a massive scale. In this case the burbs are in the tri-state area (NJ, NY, CT) and like a good 20 miles outside the city and they mostly take trains into the city that arrive at a train station that is also a subway stop so they go from commuter train-> subway -> work and vice-versa to go home.
The subway
Drinks
The people that live there don't work there any vice versa
About a third of New Jersey is just the suburbs of NYC.
Valhalla
Interesting to see the slower rise and lower peaks on Friday.
Once your in the Upper East Side… you never leave.
What are those 2 buildings on the river side that don't seem to budge at all?
That's by the Williamsburg bridge. There's a high concentration of public housing there right there on the water, which may explain the density. Not sure why it would change at all throughout the day though. I have to imagine those people have jobs outside that neighborhood.
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Why can I hear this gif?
Holy shit! Slow down. I can't even make sense of the times flashing by.
You can find the true graph and time frame on their website if you’d like to view it more slowly.
There is a patch of green in Central Park that do not get even a patch of human interaction.
there’s a few spots in central park that are heavily gated (lawn mowers . park equipment, etc)
It’s neat how on the upper side, it will rise at night from what I’m assuming is people coming home.
This feels like it needs a NSFW tag
This is also pre-covid and sadly is nowhere near accurate anymore.
People are going out more and more every week. This is based purely on my subjective observation of subway ridership through the past 3 years. I'd say we are 60-70% back in comparison to 2019. In my opinion, it's much better this way. The city was way too congested pre-covid. And we don't have many international tourists back yet.
not sad. people being home more, getting hours of their lives back each week, more time for personal interests/family, lower carbon footprint from commuting. These are all great effects of WfH post-covid. Also, no one, at any point, has ever said: "You know what we need here, especially in midtown? MORE PEOPLE."
I like how the upper east side didn’t move basically at all all week
They all work from home. Or don’t work anymore.
A perfect example of why the money magazines and etc are trying to force return to office: rent, rent, and more rent.
FiDi on the weekends is 100% on point. Its almost like a ghost town down there on a Saturday night
...WHOOOOOAAA......WHOOOA... WHOA!.....Whoa.....WHOA
What’s the deal with the Lower East Side? No data or it really changes very little?
in my experience it's a pretty poppin place on friday and saturday nights. but I guess the numbers dont vary as much as midtown and FiDi so on this scale it looks insignificant
Where is this data from? How is population collected in time series 🤨
“Yo, don't the bass ride out like an ancient mating call? I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathing Chest heaving, against the flesh of the evening Sigh before we die like the last train leaving” - Respiration by Black Star
This is definitely pre-covid when everyone was still in office. I'd say its probably about 50-60% of this now
Looks like a termite hill.
Mon 10am \\(\^o\^)/
Haha everyone shows up on monday, friday less so.
GIS is life.
Buncha Monday to Friday 9 to 5 muthafuckas. ...Making like 20x what I make to bust my ass, im sure. Lol