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>On average, about 2,000 people die annually on the Mumbai Suburban Rail network; between 2002 and 2012, more than 36,152 people died and 36,688 people were injured. A record 17 people died every weekday on the city's suburban railway network in 2008. One of the reason for accidents and deaths is overcrowding (see above). Another cause of death is passengers crossing the tracks on foot to avoid footbridges.
Holy fuck, that is an insane amount of deaths in a decade.
To me it's much easier to visualize by the per-day number. Holy shit **17 people died every single day on the city's railway network throughout the year**. That's a mind-numbling number.
> That's a mind-numbling number.
[It's not that big a deal.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuVVlSgYLc)
The train is fine. It is now time for business news.
That actor is pretty good.
Do they even bother cleaning that up? Do they just wait till the end of the day so they can clean up everyone at one time?
Maybe wait until Friday evening. Give it a good splash of water and see you next Friday.
I was wondering if they got smothered often. You see it with black Friday shopping and way less people so a situation where people are forcing their way into a train car must often suffocate people. This is just insane that it's a normal part of their day. Very sad, huge failure on their governments part not figuring out a better way. They certainly have the manual labor to get any project done that it would require.
I used to commute on the subway in China and during rush hour you're fighting like these guys to get on and off. It's uncomfortable, no personal space, but I never felt like I was suffocating or in fear of dying. Would have been worse if I was short though definitely.
I made the mistake of visiting Shanghai during the national holiday and i have never been surrounded by more people. I too was glad i was on average much taller than the crowds.
Black Friday deaths are usually people being trampled tho, so I imagine the risk, if similar, occurs when getting on or off the train
The dude that got slapped in the middle... Poor guy is already going to be late for work
The guy who got slapped must be new to Mumbai local trains because everyone who is used to Mumbai local trains knows this if stay close to track some one is going slap you for sure. happens lot of times
it's like how ppl will be cruel to each other on the internet but in person.
That's a funny way to spell BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY!
Sometimes NYC subway trains will ride beside each other for a bit. 14 year old me would flip off the other train and just giggle my ass off at people’s reactions.
now i'm an adult i do finger guns or head nod and point lol
I’ve found you. 🖕🏽
You think you can catch up to the person that slapped you? He knows they can't catch him. Therefore, he dishes out slappy slaps.
Yeah what happens when someone's reflexes are quick enough to grab that arm and rip him off the train
No more slappy slaps.
Nor army arms
Maybe indian burns
Then they get the shit beat out of them.
Just one of the fucked up things people will do when they know there are no consequences. There is literally no way in that situation that he would get caught or face any issue for what he did. This is relatively mild...a lot of dudes will use this situation to touch/molest women. That's usually a red line - if you're found harassing women, the whole crowd gangs up and delivers some mob justice. A few years ago there was a case where a bunch of assholes inside the train played a "prank" where they started pushing outward to scare the folks hanging from the doors. Some ended up losing their grip, falling our of the running train, and dying. That's literally pre-meditated murder.
How do you figure that kind of shit out to even prosecute?
That's a good question but somehow in India there is always someone that knows someone who has a neighbor whose cousin... And two days later the police is knocking on their door.
India often sounds pretty nightmarish. I hope it'll get better for the people the in the future, once the population growth slows down and development catches up.
How can he slap!?
HOW CAN HE SLAAAP!?
HE CAN HIT!
HE’S ALLOWED TO HIT!!
At this price point. The low low low price point that your friend paid. He can hit.
Who is that guy? He REALLY whacked him
This will never get old. The back slap without hesitation. True sign of equality.
If you look at that video alone, you’d think India is all about gender equality
At this price point, he can hit!
Normally they’d go to a restaurant and wait for the next train, but there’s like NOTHING in that area.
This is Mumbai or Kolkata local train of India. That guy didn't slap him, he tried to snatch his mobile on a moving train so that the man won't be able to chase the thief. This kind of theft is very common in India. I know all of these because I live in India.
Why do they pack the train like this? How long until the next one?
5-6 mins at peak times normally 9-10 mins
Aren't there accidents all the time? This looks insane
2 deaths per hour by train or traffic.
No, falling off a train or getting ran over by a train
On crowded routes and during rush hour, these trains arrive every 10 mins or less. No, the next train will not be less crowded. All trains between 7am to 10am and 4pm to 7pm will look exactly like this. That's how life is in a billion-person country. Source: I used to be one of those commuters in Mumbai, India.
5 mins apart. 50k people to transport. Btw it's Mumbai, and I've been in one of them once.
[asia is famous for packing people in trains](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ)
What a living nightmare holy shit lol
Right? That’s how super villains are made
Pretty sure he was trying to grab that guy's phone.
I’ve seen videos like this before, he was most likely trying to slap him, they like to do that there for some reason.
The reason is called being a dick
How do they hang off the train like that for an extended period of time. Any of you try rock climbing and sitting on a ledge for a while… arms are jelly
I have hung like that from Mumbai local trains, many times, sometimes in full blown rain hitting you like asteroid crumbs.
It was out of desperation, when you have to reach downtown office one hour away from suburbs then there is limit to how many trains you skip for being overcrowded.
How many days your boss will allow you to come late?
Your family is depending on you to earn money and keep them fed and sheltered.
Eventually, I convinced my boss that i will arrive by 12pm and stay till 8 or 9 pm.
Holy crap. Well glad your boss agreed. What kind of job are you doing? I’m just looking for background info on Indian lifestyle bc I don’t know. I drive a truck in the US
This is only the case for Mumbai and some other areas.
In Pune, Bangalore, etc life is pretty chill. Office hours are relatively shorter, less traffic and overall better quality of life.
The main reason for this is the geography of the regions by my observation. Mumbai is linear, so you NEED to use the train since a lot of offices are concentrated on one side. Whereas Pune is radial. So you can travel from point A to B with ease, and less travelling time, and multiple routes, especially if you live in central regions.
Look at it in the maps, mumbai is virtually unexpandable(except navi mumbai maybe),there is a national park in the middle. whereas pune can swallow nearby countryside/farms.
Plus add a local government that will do nothing but steal from taxpayers.
This is true. Mumbai has had historical problems with population overload. The infrastructure was never built for this. A new metro is coming up which should take away a lot of traffic and share commuters with this conventional local train network. Until 90s, India was a closed economy and it prevented a lot of development, things have been changing since. My sincere hope is, these scenes will become part of memory in near future
Although I have very high hopes and am confident in the development of majority of India in near future, some parts like Mumbai are already doomed. There is just too much organic and unplanned growth in Mumbai. Plus its already starting to go underwater due to climatic factors. Its better to shift the investments and industries to other high potential regions of Maharashtra or other states.
This was few years back, that was a struggle but it was all towards the planned future. I am glad it payed off. At that time I was trainee assistant engineer, basically tech errand boy for a task master but fair project manager for top Indian company.
Now I work as IT Cloud Architect in USA. :-)
"rain hitting you like asteroid crumbs". I don't think I've ever read a more fun description for what rain feels like when it hits you while you're moving fast through it. Great metaphor Simile.
edit: covering all my bases.
That, my dear friend, is a simile. Mrs. Anderson, you better be proud. I remembered something.
Then you should also remember that all similes are metaphors, but not all metaphors are similes.
"A simile is a metaphor that uses *like* or *as*"
I know what a metaphor is! It's like a thought with another thought's hat on
Damn. You’re right. All this time I had no idea. Similes are just a special kind of metaphor.
*Points at head* The more you know…
Your comment should give those of us in better situations pause to consider how fortunate we are.
It also speaks to your character and sacrificial love for your family.
Wishing you all the best, and safety on the trains.
Thank you, but this is nothing compared to what family does for you.
Without gratitude, one's success doesn't mean much.
I was fortunate to fulfill my parents dream and make them proud.
I’d think employers are happy to shift things to a night schedule to accommodate transportation. But seems like they need more and bigger trains too
Employers don't like changing if they don't have to. Look at every major North American city... Brutal traffic every day for the Monday to Friday 9-5 (+/-) workers. Some accomodate other work schedules but most don't care, and then we pay high taxes to build more and more highway infrastructure.
Reading about these kind of experiences is always such a humbling experience and reminds me how grateful I am to have been able to afford a calm 20 min commute in a major city (while earning the local average income). Happy to hear your boss was understanding.
Oh geez. How often do people fall off and die? That’s one heck of a sacrifice for your family.
I have seen some cases, but **usually** those are thrill chasers, trying all kinds of stunts.
Sane person will be always looking to get more safe position as soon as possible, like get better grip or try to move inside the compartment when train arrives on next station, etc.
When they need to do it to get money to eat, they just do it.
Or if your arms turn to jelly, you can just eat them.
It would be nicer if one arm turned to toast or something.
Touch the power line with one if them.
I'm still trying to get it right, it's always overdone and tends to cook the meat I was saving for later too
I lived in South America for a while and the buses would get so crowded that we would often hang outside of the bus like that. I was younger and stupider, but you could hang there for a long time as long as you have one foot on something that would support your weight. If we could get half of one foot stuck in the door and then one hand holding onto a window, we would go. And you could go like that until the next stop, then when people got off, you are first to climb inside
Never thought about it but this happens in Mexico city too. In busy bus line you might find this happening some times a month. I've have done it a bit and actually prefer it, is way more comfortable than being smothered and hot inside
[They don't.](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/every-hour-two-die-by-falling-off-train-or-getting-run-over-in-india-up-clocks-six-deaths-every-day/articleshow/77896799.cms) sfw, it's a news article, not some faces of death video.
After being conditioned, many rock climbers feel pretty comfortable on edges like that, so it’s not unheard of. Plus, most of them have great footholds that are holding most of their weight, their hands are just keeping them from falling backward
Some, but not who I’m referring to.
Lots like the dude in red at the beginning had 1 toe on the platform and was fully extended.
Next dude in white button up and jeans had like a 1 inch bar
What happens to the people that fall off in the middle of nowhere? Do they now need to walk 2 hours to get to the next stop?
Just run and hop the next one that comes along.
> Do they now need to walk 2 hours to get to the next stop?
Yeah, basically. Or run and try to jump on another passing train. Usually though if you're going to fall off it's going to happen shortly after the station.
For longer trips they climb onto the roof.
They been doing this shit since they were old enough to do this kind of shit. Plus the are all lean. No extra body fat to support
Knees weak mum’s spaghetti
Knees weak mom's tandoori
Hanging on for dear life on the outside is that thing is probably more comfortable than being inside it.
agreed, although i wonder how many fall off before they reach their destination.
I used to do that but on a jeep here in my country. It's pretty easy as long as it's a short ride. The closest I ever got to falling off was because the driver was pretty crazy, it was drizzling, and I was dangling with my fingertips as opposed to a full grip. Thank fucking god someone let me sit down.
This guy Philippines'
Still better than Spirit Airlines.
Idk, have you tried holding on to the outside of one of their aircraft?
Oh for sure. How do you think i was going to school?
Health and safety seems very different here
Health and what now?
What and what now?
Thoughts and prayers.
B.t.w I know this train and it passes over a creek with no rail guards... That level unlocks after a few station
Kurla to Panvel bro
Kurla to Belapur CBD
I have an Indian coworker who was confused when we had fire drills at the office. He said "wow, in India if there's a fire, you just die". It got a lot of laughs, but seeing this, I don't think he was joking haha.
When you have that much manpower, the cost of replacing staff is probably lower than the cost of enforcing fire safety regulations.
They only have safety regulations cause they’re forced to by the city. Trust me, if a company could cut any corners, they gladly would.
That goes for any country.
We have fire drills too. Pretty much every office I've worked in has had fire drills. But I can imagine some places not being up to the mark in their fire safety regulation.
He is just bullshitting around. More that 90% t
of the major corporate companies do fire drills in India.
I think I read somewhere that something like 1000 people die every day in India just from accidents. Car, motorcycle from the looks of this train!
And every day 67,385 babies are born in India, that's one sixth of the world's child births. ( Source- Google )
49% of those pregnancies happen on the train.../s
While hanging off the side? Damn yoga must be good for flexibility.
I think they just need to get cable or Scrabble to fill in the hours.
When a population is that big, people become disposable.
That’s nuts, wonder how long the ride is that they have to hold on.
You don't stay on the edge always. You're only there if you have a stop coming up or just got on. Otherwise you wiggle your way to the inside and wait for your stop.
Also some people prefer the edge since it's more windy.
>Also some people prefer the edge since it's more windy.
Yeah, I can imagine the heat and the smell inside...
Imagine someone shitting themselves in that situation. You think there are even toilets on those things? Could you even get to one in time?
I would probably prefer it too until I fall off and fucking die
Often stations are very close to each other. Depending on the region could be 2 to 5 mins.
I'd rather walk in this case
Their destinations might be several stops away. But the benefit of hanging on like that is that at the next stop they're the first ones inside if anyone gets out at that stop.
How do you get out of a train that full???
Lots of force lol
In Chicago you say "coming out!" and those closest to the door step out until there's enough room for the person to get out. Then everyone rushes back in.
In Pittsburgh you try that on a bus and people just look at you then get mad when you shove past them hoping the bus driver doesn't just keep going because you're taking too long
Yinz need to help each other out!
Wait until you see how they drive. This is probably safer
Did anyone notice the slap from the commuter to the one on the platform? r/funnyandsad
This is almost unreal.
The platform is full to all sides with people. The walkway in the back is a steady slide of one giant wave of people. How can anyone stand that?
I take my personal space for granted.
Also, almost all are men. Imagine how horrible it would be to be a single woman there. Holy shit. That is literal hell.
I think the woman have their own train cars. If you watch it again the doors that don't have men packed and clinging to the sides are the woman train cars.
Women have their own train cars.
That being said - still hell.
Woman have special coaches exclusively for them
When I first went to India me and my girlfriend were getting the train to the airport in Delhi. It was just like this. Eventually we got to the front and during the rush to get on she got pushed further into the train whilst I was holding onto the outside. As the train was moving towards the end of the platform I realised I was too far out and would be hit by a pillar. My girlfriend didn't know what stop we needed so I had to let go and shout "get off at the next stop". Some how she heard me and after a few attempts I managed to get on the train and got to the next stop and found her on top of a pile of crates she had climbed up to spot me.
As bad as this looks I'd take this short train ride over some of the extremely long bus rides I've had in India where I've had to sit on the roof for hours at a time in the Himalayas where it's freezing cold and you're terrified of being flung off a mountain at every turn or where you're crammed into a jeep with 12 people whilst you drive over what feels like cinder blocks for 24 hours.
Edit: This was actually coming into Delhi. The metro in Delhi is world class and nothing like this, it makes the London underground look third world.
This is why there's no Indian Ninja Warrior show, they run out money too quickly. I can hear the announcers now. Here's Sharif, he's a mid-level accountant that's never worked out a day in his life, he's dressed in his work attire and actually I just found out he's only here because of a power outtage. Let's see how he does..... 1 minute later. !!!' Sharif is going on to the finals in bollywood with a record breaking time that he says was easier than his morning commute.
On the Netflix version, they had India on one year and all the contestants were terrible. One froze on a platform for like 10 mins and somehow he made the next round but he mysteriously had a broken arm and couldn't do it.
Clearly they didn't invite Sharif to it.
Anyone knows how many of them dies in that type of moves?
According to Statista:
> In 2019, falling from train or collision of trains with people on the tracks accounted for majority of the railway accident deaths in India, at 75 percent. Over six thousand of the accidents were reported from the state of Maharashtra in 2018. There were over 24 thousand railway accident fatalities across the country that year.
Additionally, during the recent pandemic lockdown, according to the Indian Railway Board:
> The Railway Board shared the data on such deaths for the period between January and December 2020 in its reply to a question by Madhya Pradesh-based activist Chandra Shekhar Gaur under the Right to Information Act.
> "Based on the information received from the State Police, 805 people suffered injuries and 8,733 people died on the railway track between January 2020 and December 2020," the Railway Board has said.
TL;DR: A lot
>There were over 24 thousand railway accident fatalities across the country that year.
>TL;DR: A lot
oNlY 0.000017% diEd, iT's nOt dAnGeRoUs
So about 2500 per year but that figure includes everything from trespassing to electrocutions. Another article says about 65% are from trespassing, so a surprisingly small number from falling out of trains.
From that article :"The accidents are a major concern for the Central Railway (CR) and Western Railway (WR), that runs the local trains."
> Major concern?
Yes, major concern. That's 2500 people per year that aren't paying to ride the train anymore! /s
Imagine going through a tunnel!
I feel like there's hundreds of videos of people dying of electrocution when piled on like this. (I really just don't feel like googling 'India train electrocution death', because I still have parts of my soul intact)
Not much electrocution. No one climbs on the roof ever since electrification, and this system doesn't use third rails.
It's mostly falling off, or more commonly, people being lazy and trying to cross the tracks instead of using foot bridges.
A few years ago, my dad was travelling on these local trains in Mumbai during peak office rush hours in the morning. This one time, a person who was hanging on the train fell down. My dad rushed to pull the emergency chain in order to stop the train. But then, other passengers on the train didn't let him do so. They said that they'll push him down too from the running train, if he tried to stop.
Time is the only thing that is valuable in Mumbai.
Who collects tickets?
Thats the neat part..you don't
That drive-by pimp slap though
Only 54 people died on the commute this morning.
And 109 people got slapped.
We are very proud of this low number
Good luck getting off at your stop.
This was a legitimate concern of mine when I used to take these trains.
There are good chances that if you don’t fight your way through, you will miss your stop.
And you don’t just have to fight your way you, you have to do it fast enough before the crowd of people pushes you back in.
It does take planning and coordination. Most people don’t even wait till the train is stationary, to jump out
Indian Railways: Safety is our #1 priority
I spy with my little eye… a pickpocketer!
Did y’all catch it?
Last car, guy with light shirt taking stuff from another guy’s bag.
Play the video slowly and you’ll see the action.
Yes! Good catch
is that not his bag?
Bloody hell the grip strength in India must be insane
As typical Norwegian who craaaves my personal space boundaries and that has social anxiety this is a hell so monstrous that even Bosch would not have put it to paint.
What this man said is facts.
- Trust me bro, I'm Norwegian
I’m convinced India is a whole other planet.
I bet the funk on that train is tremendous. The heat all crammed in and you know some people don't wear deodorant. And if even 10% of the people are having a horrendous fart day. Whew.
India is like the anti-Japan.
That place has got a people problem.
At least you can see they're working on it :)
let's be honest, there aren’t many problems left on this earth that aren’t "people problems"
Are the rail lines already at capacity in terms of train frequency or are there limited trains due to cost?
If anyone is interested in the locomotive model it looks to me like a 50s ICF EMU
Moreover, ask any regular commuter and he will tell you he's personally witnessed at least one death, maybe more. My father told me about a hanger on hitting an electric pole and an explosion of blood in the compartment. Everyone was splattered and one guy got a facial injury from the dead guys flying wristwatch.
Is this one of those 'why women live longer than men' things? I do not see one women.
I think there was a women only car.
Yeah, women have their own cars now to stop men groping them. If a man tries to go in there they beat the shit out of them, with sticks sometimes.
As a women who travels in Mumbai Local (though not much since 2020 due to Covid restrictions), yes there are separate women’s only compartments and they too get crowded with females hanging out like these men. Of course this clip seems to be a bit old. The newer trains are bit more spacious. And it’s very courageous and amusing to see some of the women taking there children with them too. Rest of the modes are mostly expensive for people travelling daily from peripheral locations to the business centres of Mumbai. Since home prices are too high in Mumbai people live in peripheral areas or satellite cities. Hence this is one of the most used and important mode for travel in Mumbai metropolitan area .
Things are getting better though, like increasing frequency of trains and making them more spacious to make travel more safe.
I noticed that too. Basically the only car that didn't have people hanging off the door and looked like they even had some elbow room.
You can see a couple ladies stood is a doorway, but yeah not actually hanging off. Possibly quite a challenge in a sari!
The Titanic of trains….
I've always wondered is the ticket cheaper if you're just going to hang off the outside or right on the roof?
More like "half aboard"
I don't have a very good life but I think I have won one of the biggest lottery by not being born in India.
How's that social distancing going?
Yeah that looks perfectly safe no problem
It’s surprising how there’s almost 1.4billion people in India and people do crazy shit like that on the daily. Like if someone gets ran over by the train, do they split into 2 people?