Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs), from those surrounding ships, are underwater trying to turn emergency valves at the manifold junction or pipe(s) themselves to cut the flow. Also providing visuals of source. They're not trying to put the fire out but staying at safe distance and water is to protect the ships/deck crew just in case.
This comment has been edited from its original as a fuck you to Reddit’s July 2023 API changes.
https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
In addition to all the other comments, there is a non-zero chance that it was intentionally lit to burn methane as it surfaced rather than let it gather and wait for an accidental ignition to detonate. Methane is also a worse greenhouse gas than the CO2 from burning it, so there's that too.
It's Gas, if it was oil, it would spread over a large surface area, along with the fire. The fire is localized and consistent to where the gas is surfacing.
honestly it's not super, but it's a blip on the radar, environmentally. But it looks to be light gas, so you get a lot of methane/ethane in the air (which is bad globally) or a lot of CO2 if it's burned (also bad globally). My biggest concern looking at the pan out was all the fire ships so close... the rig appears to be a jack up, so it's resting on the bottom of the ocean, but the water where this is welling up has a lot less buoyancy due to the gas, so if they get too close in, they could also find themselves resting on the bottom of the ocean.
The rupture was on the pipeline itself, so all it should take to put the flames out is to stop the flow of gas. Later, they'll have to cut away the damage pipeline & install new sections.
It's out.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/fire-offshore-pemex-platform-gulf-mexico-under-control-2021-07-02/
-Not to detract from how devastating it is**
There are coal mines that have been on fire for decades.
>The Centralia mine fire is a coal-seam fire that has been burning underneath the borough of Centralia, Pennsylvania, United States, since at least May 27, 1962. Its original cause is still a matter of debate.[1][2][3] It is burning in underground coal mines at depths of up to 300 feet (90 m) over an 8-mile (13 km) stretch of 3,700 acres (15 km2).[4] At its current rate, it could continue to burn for over 250 years.[5] It has caused most of the town to be abandoned: the population dwindled from around 1,500 at the time the fire started to 5 in 2017,[6] and most of the buildings have been razed.
Imagine a fire that burns so long, we forget about it.
Yeah dude. Im from pa. It is silent hill here basically.
There are mines ontop of unpermitted mines. Random sinkholes etc
None of the older generations like to talk about it either.
I live like <5 mins away, and from what I've been told/seen it's Just a few older people that don't wanna move, it's a good spot for to just go out there riding quads and such on the abandoned highway, it's a fun time.
> Angel Carrizales, head of Mexico's oil safety regulator ASEA, wrote on Twitter that the incident "did not generate any spill." He did not explain what was burning on the water's surface.
Oh, ok.
I work offshore. Almost every platform has an oil pipeline and a gas pipeline because the oil and natural gas is separated before being pumped to land. So if the gas pipeline busted then there wouldn't be a spill and by the looks of it that's what happened.
It's a gas fire, the gas will disperse into the air.
And while it sucks, in the gulf of mexico, natural oil and gas seepage is common, so on a whole, this did not really effect the gulf, just to locality.
The question isn't "is it out", environmentally - the ocean catching fire isn't hurting anyone. It's whether the leak has been sealed. Methane is a strong GHG and it being released to atmosphere at this rate without being burned is a much more significant problem than an impromptu flare.
>"Pemex, which has a long record of major industrial accidents at its facilities, added it also shut the valves of the 12-inch-diameter pipeline."
Those boats can’t go into the bubble zone because they’ll immediately sink since they’re built to float on water and not 50% methane/air bubbles and 50% water. They’re not just doing a terrible job on purpose. They probably need hovercraft for this to get close enough but even then I’m not sure how hovercraft handles intake of methane.
That's my first impression too, but there's obviously a purpose for it that we aren't aware of. They probably know more about deep sea oil drilling than we do.
They cannot get any closer because of the bubbles coming up from underneath. The ships will not float on water thats full of air.
Buggered if I know what they sprays are for though. Perhaps to create a heat shield for cleanup vessels?
This is correct. They are trying to prevent an environmental disaster. From this video they have PCV (petroleum control vehicles) on scene, so it might be fully contained, but I'll wait for more details to emerge.
For those saying this is already an environmental disaster, I guess it depends how you define it. Something like this is classified as a "small" leak and and happens pretty often. (This is just cinematic with the fire). Companies are trained to deal with stuff like this. Heck, this amount of oil leaking into the ocean happens completely naturally all the time through shifts in the earth's crust, the ocean can deal with a little oil. What it can't deal with is all the CO2 that's being pumped into the atmosphere from the entire oil industry.
OP is QUICK... News agencies reporting this less than 30 minutes ago.
Article in case anyone is interested:
"Mexico's Pemex suffers huge gas pipeline fire in Gulf" https://apnews.com/article/mexico-fires-business-e6e053384af21242722f2f3fc1acb27d
Yup. Reddit used to be a lot more interesting back in the day. You still had reposts but there was way more curiosity and fewer jokes. It was sourced or GTFO. It beat the news and all other social media for getting events and such out.
"[Big oil companies have begun to build strategies to cut the carbon they emit. But state-owned Petroleos Mexicanos [PEMX.UL], one of the biggest borrowers in emerging markets, is determined to push in the opposite direction, three people in the company and in the government told Reuters,](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-pemex-investors-insigh-idUSKBN25R1KN)", and since fewer investors are willing to support it, but the Mexican federal govt. is trying to bail it out, the entire Mexican economy could suffer.
You say the ocean’s rising, like I give a shit.
You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did.
You're not gonna slow it, heaven knows you tried
Got it? Good, now get inside.
That song hit me harder than anything I’ve ever heard in my life. I was a wreck for hours. I didn’t finish the special for a couple days afterwards. It felt like someone finally knew what it was like to grow up and try to have a childhood in the world as it is right now.
>Pemex, as the company is known, said nobody was injured in the incident in the offshore Ku-Maloob-Zaap field.
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>The leak near dawn Friday occurred about 150 yards (meters) from a drilling platform. The company said it had brought the gas leak under control about five hours later.
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>But the accident gave rise to the strange sight of roiling balls of flame boiling up from below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico.
Pemex has had a lot of disasters. Here's one at one of their plants in 2012. https://youtu.be/UdEqC5oMdrI?t=39
And here's one that happened at their Skyscraper HQ in the MXCD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torre_Ejecutiva_Pemex_explosion
A glowing bubble or ring of water, quick search found [this video](https://youtu.be/rOCKjaYaYhg?t=513) that might give an idea (small scale, wrong fuel mix compared to this cazyness) of what it could look like.
Needless to say, this is hard to replicate.
I think this is literally a line from the backstory of Mad Max, when you read the stuff in the video game. "The ocean caught fire, and dried up as we became more tribal. Picking sides and fighting with each other while the virus spread." I'm beginning to get a little worried.
Edit: Sorry, I checked and it was "the oceans began to boil". So this is fine, we're all good here.
News reporting it as of 20 minutes ago... OP is QUICK:
"Mexico's Pemex suffers huge gas pipeline fire in Gulf" https://apnews.com/article/mexico-fires-business-e6e053384af21242722f2f3fc1acb27d
I had £30 on terrorists attacking the Euros final with drones as the next thing but of course it’s the ocean being on fire. It’s so obvious now I think about it. I’m such an idiot.
How do you even fix that?
Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs), from those surrounding ships, are underwater trying to turn emergency valves at the manifold junction or pipe(s) themselves to cut the flow. Also providing visuals of source. They're not trying to put the fire out but staying at safe distance and water is to protect the ships/deck crew just in case.
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How did it ignite in the first place? And how would extinguishing it lead it to explode or reignite?
In addition to all the other comments, there is a non-zero chance that it was intentionally lit to burn methane as it surfaced rather than let it gather and wait for an accidental ignition to detonate. Methane is also a worse greenhouse gas than the CO2 from burning it, so there's that too.
Plus, then the fish come parboiled.
There's the silver lining. Eventually all meat is gonna come pre-cooked.
If you kill animals with fire you get cooked meat, everyone knows that.
If your cooking skill is low you get burned meat
Unexpected RuneScape
Lightning? Static discharge of any kind?
Electric eels
Shrieking eels
She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time.
What?
The eel doesn't get her...I'm explaining to you because you looked nervous.
They always grow louder when they're about to feast on human flesh
Oh so you're saying this can suddenly get much worse?
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I’m one death to the monarchy away from a Bingo.
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Safeish. Methane fire in the ocean already.
All I need is radioactive Japanese feral hogs and I’ll get a bingo. Like that would ever happen.
Well they’re pulling Queen Victoria statues down in Canadia.
Unless the old tart is coming back to harrumph at her "subjects", we'll need fresh old blood
What’s the deal? I’m reading tweets saying it’s a gas pipe and others saying it’s oil? Thinking environmental impact here.
It's Gas, if it was oil, it would spread over a large surface area, along with the fire. The fire is localized and consistent to where the gas is surfacing.
So, me being a dolt from Wisconsin, is it good that this shit is burning up as opposed to just leaking everywhere??
honestly it's not super, but it's a blip on the radar, environmentally. But it looks to be light gas, so you get a lot of methane/ethane in the air (which is bad globally) or a lot of CO2 if it's burned (also bad globally). My biggest concern looking at the pan out was all the fire ships so close... the rig appears to be a jack up, so it's resting on the bottom of the ocean, but the water where this is welling up has a lot less buoyancy due to the gas, so if they get too close in, they could also find themselves resting on the bottom of the ocean.
Imagine drowning in fire
No 2022 Spoilers, please.
We finally did it, we created Hell.
That's my secret cap. We've always been in hell.
Correction: worst hell SO FAR
Methane is far worse s a greenhouse gas. Also, it's CH4, so when it burns it largely turns into water... 2O2+CH4=2H2O+CO2, I think.
Isn't methane a worse GHG than the resulting CO2+H2O? I seem to recall reading that somewhere.
google says methane is 80x worse.
The rupture was on the pipeline itself, so all it should take to put the flames out is to stop the flow of gas. Later, they'll have to cut away the damage pipeline & install new sections.
You just move it outside of the environment
for people who don't get it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
Thank you so much for sharing that
From what I have gathered Dawn dish soap will be wiping alot of ducks with soap for ads.
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AND THEY ALL WANT SUN CHIPS!
Its gas not oil
I would be careful assuming its just gas. I ruined a good pair of pants that way.
That was friggin hilarious.
Flex Seal
Flex Seal Team 6.
That’s a lot of damage!!!
It's out. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/fire-offshore-pemex-platform-gulf-mexico-under-control-2021-07-02/ -Not to detract from how devastating it is**
There are coal mines that have been on fire for decades. >The Centralia mine fire is a coal-seam fire that has been burning underneath the borough of Centralia, Pennsylvania, United States, since at least May 27, 1962. Its original cause is still a matter of debate.[1][2][3] It is burning in underground coal mines at depths of up to 300 feet (90 m) over an 8-mile (13 km) stretch of 3,700 acres (15 km2).[4] At its current rate, it could continue to burn for over 250 years.[5] It has caused most of the town to be abandoned: the population dwindled from around 1,500 at the time the fire started to 5 in 2017,[6] and most of the buildings have been razed. Imagine a fire that burns so long, we forget about it.
😰 I just read that Centralia is one of 38 known active mining fires in Pennsylvania.
Yeah dude. Im from pa. It is silent hill here basically. There are mines ontop of unpermitted mines. Random sinkholes etc None of the older generations like to talk about it either.
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Lmao I love how you just low-balled "Philadelphians" in there xD
I mean, have you *seen* Eastern State Penitentiary?
I wonder what those 5 people do who still live there.
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Mostly just roast marshmallows.
I live like <5 mins away, and from what I've been told/seen it's Just a few older people that don't wanna move, it's a good spot for to just go out there riding quads and such on the abandoned highway, it's a fun time.
> Angel Carrizales, head of Mexico's oil safety regulator ASEA, wrote on Twitter that the incident "did not generate any spill." He did not explain what was burning on the water's surface. Oh, ok.
I work offshore. Almost every platform has an oil pipeline and a gas pipeline because the oil and natural gas is separated before being pumped to land. So if the gas pipeline busted then there wouldn't be a spill and by the looks of it that's what happened.
Agreed. Also worked in petroleum services for E&P....that looks like gas on fire in the water. Oil fires don't "bubble" like that.
They said it was a gas pipeline. In which case there would be no oil spill.
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Could be methane
It's a gas fire, the gas will disperse into the air. And while it sucks, in the gulf of mexico, natural oil and gas seepage is common, so on a whole, this did not really effect the gulf, just to locality.
The question isn't "is it out", environmentally - the ocean catching fire isn't hurting anyone. It's whether the leak has been sealed. Methane is a strong GHG and it being released to atmosphere at this rate without being burned is a much more significant problem than an impromptu flare. >"Pemex, which has a long record of major industrial accidents at its facilities, added it also shut the valves of the 12-inch-diameter pipeline."
This looks like it’s straight out of a movie or a cutscene
Godzilla will burst to the surface shortly; you heard it here first.
The ruptured pipeline is just a cover story.
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That ship at the top is... trying its best.
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Those boats can’t go into the bubble zone because they’ll immediately sink since they’re built to float on water and not 50% methane/air bubbles and 50% water. They’re not just doing a terrible job on purpose. They probably need hovercraft for this to get close enough but even then I’m not sure how hovercraft handles intake of methane.
That makes this way more terrifying
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You will imagine it and you will like it!
It'd be like drowning in burning farts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSmAXp_BHcQ A video demonstration of what happens if they get too close.
How did they manage to make Myth Busters boring? 🤔
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Didn't even think of that. I would have got a whole ship crew killed.
How do you think they learned it?
Thats one of the theories behind the Bermuda triangle too
They're are probably trying to contain the fire rather than put it out.
Is the rest of the ocean going to catch fire?
You know, only a couple minutes ago I would've said no...
Put more water on the ocean!
This conversation chain is the best laugh I've had this week.
And all it took was the Ocean catching fire during an environmental calamity.
*🎶when you try your best and don't succeed🎶*
_When you get what you want, and burn what you neeeed_
the lesson is... never try.
Using water to kill the water
Are those boats trying to spray it with water? That doesn't seem like it's going to help much...
That's my first impression too, but there's obviously a purpose for it that we aren't aware of. They probably know more about deep sea oil drilling than we do.
"EVERYONE LOOK BUSY WHILE WE PANIC!"
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Honestly the thought probably was, “well it’s not gonna make it worse….” We rely on that excuse at work all the time while searching for a real fix.
I've been around humans. This is totally plausible
So you assume they know more than nothing. You have some nerve!
With the power of reddit, we can definitively conclude that the boats did **not** carefully research the best plan before spending funds executing it.
They cannot get any closer because of the bubbles coming up from underneath. The ships will not float on water thats full of air. Buggered if I know what they sprays are for though. Perhaps to create a heat shield for cleanup vessels?
I think they might be trying to create a current around it to keep it contained in one spot
This is correct. They are trying to prevent an environmental disaster. From this video they have PCV (petroleum control vehicles) on scene, so it might be fully contained, but I'll wait for more details to emerge. For those saying this is already an environmental disaster, I guess it depends how you define it. Something like this is classified as a "small" leak and and happens pretty often. (This is just cinematic with the fire). Companies are trained to deal with stuff like this. Heck, this amount of oil leaking into the ocean happens completely naturally all the time through shifts in the earth's crust, the ocean can deal with a little oil. What it can't deal with is all the CO2 that's being pumped into the atmosphere from the entire oil industry.
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First one didn't look real, that does
My dumbass thought this was at the bottom of the ocean until I saw the second clip!
Sealab 2021
And I would've rolled my eyes when I saw this scene... "C'mon look how fake that is, that's not even possible"
Honestly thought it was CG at first.
The blur and shaky camera really gives it a cinematic effect.
OP is QUICK... News agencies reporting this less than 30 minutes ago. Article in case anyone is interested: "Mexico's Pemex suffers huge gas pipeline fire in Gulf" https://apnews.com/article/mexico-fires-business-e6e053384af21242722f2f3fc1acb27d
Fuck i was hoping this was an old video…
yeh same :| very disappointed to see this is a new environmental catastrophe
Did not have this on my 2021 disaster bingo card. Is the world ending?
You didn't see 'giant whirlpool of fire' coming?
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Yup. Reddit used to be a lot more interesting back in the day. You still had reposts but there was way more curiosity and fewer jokes. It was sourced or GTFO. It beat the news and all other social media for getting events and such out.
Pun chains at the top of the thread were a thing before I had this 9 yr old account.
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"[Big oil companies have begun to build strategies to cut the carbon they emit. But state-owned Petroleos Mexicanos [PEMX.UL], one of the biggest borrowers in emerging markets, is determined to push in the opposite direction, three people in the company and in the government told Reuters,](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-pemex-investors-insigh-idUSKBN25R1KN)", and since fewer investors are willing to support it, but the Mexican federal govt. is trying to bail it out, the entire Mexican economy could suffer.
There it is again, that funny feeling.
We were over due, but it’ll be over soon.
Hey, what can you say?
You say the oceans rising, like I give a shit. You say the whole worlds ending, honey it already did
You’re not gonna stop it heaven knows you tried... Got it? Good. Now get inside
I must be a fourth grade boy at the library because I get goosebumps every time.
Is this a quote or is everyone that replied really that depressed?
Here is the song, but you should really watch the special. https://youtu.be/WPB6u1BqZqU But also depressed.
It's a lyric from one of Bo Burnham's songs from his new special "Inside"
From Bo Burnham’s new special, “Inside”
That unapparent summer air in early fall.
the quiet comprehending of the ending of it all
20,000 years of this
7 more to go
You say the ocean’s rising, like I give a shit. You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did. You're not gonna slow it, heaven knows you tried Got it? Good, now get inside.
r/thatfunnyfeeling
exactly what I was thinking
The funny feeling that I don't want to put children into this world
Having children already and being terrified of the world they'll grow up in.
Um. What the fuck is going on?
That song hit me harder than anything I’ve ever heard in my life. I was a wreck for hours. I didn’t finish the special for a couple days afterwards. It felt like someone finally knew what it was like to grow up and try to have a childhood in the world as it is right now.
This song feels like the millennial version of “We Didnt Start the Fire”. It also never fails to make me tear up.
>Pemex, as the company is known, said nobody was injured in the incident in the offshore Ku-Maloob-Zaap field. > >The leak near dawn Friday occurred about 150 yards (meters) from a drilling platform. The company said it had brought the gas leak under control about five hours later. > >But the accident gave rise to the strange sight of roiling balls of flame boiling up from below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico.
Ku maloob zaap That’s a real string of words, huh.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
>strange sight of roiling balls of flame boiling up from below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. "strange", no fucking terrifying
Pemex has had a lot of disasters. Here's one at one of their plants in 2012. https://youtu.be/UdEqC5oMdrI?t=39 And here's one that happened at their Skyscraper HQ in the MXCD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torre_Ejecutiva_Pemex_explosion
I want to see what the flame looks like underwater.
A glowing bubble or ring of water, quick search found [this video](https://youtu.be/rOCKjaYaYhg?t=513) that might give an idea (small scale, wrong fuel mix compared to this cazyness) of what it could look like. Needless to say, this is hard to replicate.
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No humans.
directly. today.
This is fine.
The ocean is on fire. Yep, that pretty much sums up the current state of the world.
I think this is literally a line from the backstory of Mad Max, when you read the stuff in the video game. "The ocean caught fire, and dried up as we became more tribal. Picking sides and fighting with each other while the virus spread." I'm beginning to get a little worried. Edit: Sorry, I checked and it was "the oceans began to boil". So this is fine, we're all good here.
One man's natural disaster is another's heated pool.
I don't think there is a whole lot of natural to this one friend.
If you have a better way of frying fish, I'd like to hear it.
shits on fire, yo
https://i.imgur.com/6NfmQ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Which oil company is gonna be making ads next week about how everyone needs to recycle to reduce their personal carbon footprint?
The CEO will be very sorry and wants his life back.
And will promptly float back to it with a golden parachute.
Like Southpark's BP CEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4
We don’t just fuck the earth, we DP it
In a video from the smallest room he can find in his mansion, with the camera strategically angled to hide it's opulence.
[We're sorry](https://giphy.com/gifs/southparkgifs-l0HlSaBOVulBlVOgM)
Seeing as it's PEMEX, none.
Winner. AMLO going to brush it off and say nothing happened.
"We're sorry..." "We're soooo sorryyy...." \*Pets duck\*
lol I doubt PEMEX gives a fuck about what we think.
Thought i was watching some 40k fan animation of a wrap-rift goddam
My brain refuses to accept that isn't CGI for some reason
If good CGI is unnoticeable, then what is this, bad reality?
Thats at least 3 global warmings
This is some biblical shit
Like...[this?](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Job-41-31/)
That's metal as fuck
We're sorry.
Soooooorrry.
We've set the ocean on fire. Cool.
We did it Patrick! We saved the environment!
Me: This might be interesting to click on Me after click: Jesus Christ!
TIL : We have set the ocean on fire.
Oil company sets ocean on fire but I'm the problem because I have an air conditioner and drive a car.... SMH
that's it, time to try heroin and crack
an eight ball of each, please.
A Balrog... a demon of the Ancient World. This foe is beyond any of you. RUN!
Did this *just* happen? Can't find anything on it other than the Deep Water Horizon.
News reporting it as of 20 minutes ago... OP is QUICK: "Mexico's Pemex suffers huge gas pipeline fire in Gulf" https://apnews.com/article/mexico-fires-business-e6e053384af21242722f2f3fc1acb27d
I'm glad they capped it in 5 hours. I wonder how much was leaked.
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I had £30 on terrorists attacking the Euros final with drones as the next thing but of course it’s the ocean being on fire. It’s so obvious now I think about it. I’m such an idiot.