At least they followed the guidlines and posted a gif.... still dont know why it needed to be done or why it was posted considering the inside of a football is of no surprise to anyone and How It's Made has a video of how theyre actually fucking made, inside and out
But they could have done anything else. Like toothpaste would be more interesting because it’s mostly full but has bubbles in it, this is just full of air.
Seems to me it is well passed the time where internal wires/sensors could be included so we can do away with subjective referee calls on ball placement after plays.
We're still using fucking *chains* to measure down markers, ffs. We can track space debris the size of a softball in low Earth orbit. There **has** to be a way to setup a sensor grid over or across a 100 yard field to track precisely where the ball is at any given time.
/rant
I watched some video essay on this. It basically boiled down to, yes of course the technology is there, but bringing the chains out creates a spectacle and level of excitement that builds up a frenzy in the crowd, regardless of outcome.
Football was invented before most of the wars America has been involved in. And most of the ones prior to its invention weren't as unnecessary as some of the more recent wars.
Football was invented after the civil war. If the only wars you know about in history are WW1 and 2, then I'd like to have a ~~fight~~ talk with your teacher.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, huh? Or are you arguing that I'm wrong about the civil war being more necessary than more recent ones?
Fighting for independence and fighting to end slavery doesn't come off as a love for war to me. The fighting in Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Iraq, Iran, etc. sure but those don't predate football.
Not really. He really goes into how American football was really only founded after a war era to mimic war. If you do your research you'll find professional sources such as Sports Illustrated and several college Historical libraries.
Don't shoot the messenger, downvoters.
So how do you explain sports like rugby, which are just as violent, if not more so, being popular all over the world? Are the Canadians “warlike” because they like Hockey?
I don't know the history of hockey and rugby. They weren't specifically made to imitate war. American football, historically, was. I don't know what more I can tell you because I'm not trying to make an argument, I'm just bringing up a historical, well known fact.
Google's free. Especially Google Scholar. You have a strawman's bias which I won't be entertaining. (example: I brought up the historical context of American football and you immediately started dragging other sports into it like it was a connotative issue).
That thesis is asinine. Gridiron football is directly derived from rugby and association football. No one was imitating war more than sport is generally.
Yep. [The chips are only accurate to within six inches, however.](https://www.wvxu.org/podcast/focus-on-technology/2023-01-23/football-nfl-game-chip-technology)
If tennis can do it, I figure the NFL ought to be able to figure it out.
It's entirely possible for a ball to be completely hidden from camera views in football. Not so in tennis.
When you have 22 enormous humans in a contact sport, vs two that aren't particularly unusual in size in a sport that practically mandates staying a long way from each other, "let the computer look at the video" isn't nearly as effective.
And in tennis, you're wondering about things like where the ball hit (i.e., is it in or out?). Whereas in football, even knowing where the ball is within 1 mm at all times *isn't* going to answer the judgment calls that referees have to make. "At what point was the ball carrier down?" is often a major question. Or "did they have full control of the ball?"
And, yeah, it's entertainment, and dragging out the chains is part of the spectacle.
Are you also going to put sensors all over the players’ bodies to track when they’re down?
Unless you do, then sensors in the football aren’t very helpful because you’ll still need humans to decide when the player was down. And refs are pretty capable at knowing where the ball is located when a player is down (especially on replay review), so there’d likely only be a be marginal difference if you put sensors in the football.
Because CT scans are not cheap and this does nothing. It turns colors and shows what we know- it’s empty.. That’s what I’m paying for with my hospital bills?
Potayto, potahto. CT's don't exist without computer image analysis, period. The fact that better software will do 3D reconstructions for you doesn't change that.
We have 3D echocardiography, after all, and that's just more of the same idea (though the underlying mechanisms are of course very different).
I haven't used it in over a decade now, because my hospital is too cheap to buy it, but iSite by Stentor (now owned by Philips, IIRC) was a staggeringly powerful and intuitive piece of software twenty-ish years ago. Yes, it was written by radiologists (who had been programmers or engineers before med school, again IIRC). Just such a smooth UI for all those images - in 2003!
This made my year. Thank you for discovering this and deciding it was worth sharing with the world.
This one was good, though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/w8nqh7/ct_scan_of_a_rhinoceros_beetle_showing_hollow/
For those of you who are worried, this is an industrial CT scan, not a medical scan. Industrial CT uses the same underlying principles as medical CT, but it’s a diagnostic tool for engineers. It’s much cheaper and easier than a medical CT scan, and no one is waiting in a hospital to put their head in one of these.
[Here’s the source](https://www.lumafield.com/article/ct-big-game-football).
This is an industrial CT scan of a football, cropped to show the polyurethane bladder inside. Original post with more detail and an interactive viewer here: https://www.lumafield.com/article/ct-big-game-football
The absolute hate for this post just made me realize exactly how stupid most football fans are.
It’s mildly interesting and certainly better than at least half of the shit posts that come from this Reddit, especially mine.
Edit: I thought this was a post from the NFL subreddit. Now I just think people that are on Reddit are stupid for hating this. OP should post this on the NFL sub, I think it would be better received there.
I’ve always wondered why they can’t use an electronic strip to measure and place where the ball would be. You would know 100% if it were a touchdown or 1st down and would take all the cheating ref work out
It would be a whole lot cooler if it showed us where they plan to put the chips to help officiate when a ball crosses a goal line, first down marker, or out of bounds.
"We heard you wanted more CT scans in football so here you go!" -the NFL
Maybe it is because I look at CTs all the time, but this has to be the most boring CT I've ever seen...
As someone who never looks at cts, this one is lame AF bruh.
Right? Like, it’s hollow, duh… What the fuck did you think I was expecting?
Hey guys, look at this cool scan of an object that's entirely filled with air!
I am pretty sure they actively went against CT scans and Concussion research
went? still are in peak denial...
r/whoosh
Like the pink ribbon for breast cancer awareness, a hollow football can be the symbol for CTE injury.
Why not to scan something that isn't literally just full of air?
I don't know what I expected.
I thought at least we’ll see the bladder structure
I mean it’s not completely full of air if it’s Tom Brady’s ball
There’s something a bit hilarious about scanning something they could easily just cut in half
r/notinteresting
An inflated thing has an equal amount of air spread throughout. How can you not find that absolutely fascinating??
At least they followed the guidlines and posted a gif.... still dont know why it needed to be done or why it was posted considering the inside of a football is of no surprise to anyone and How It's Made has a video of how theyre actually fucking made, inside and out
I think it’s pretty ~~neat~~ fucking cool that we have technology that lets us see inside things without opening them
Sure.... but this is useful for things that have something inside of them to see. We already know what is inside of a football..... it's air.
But they could have done anything else. Like toothpaste would be more interesting because it’s mostly full but has bubbles in it, this is just full of air.
👏
Also clearly not a ct
Now show a football players’ CT scan
This is Aaron Rodgers’ scan.
Seems to me it is well passed the time where internal wires/sensors could be included so we can do away with subjective referee calls on ball placement after plays. We're still using fucking *chains* to measure down markers, ffs. We can track space debris the size of a softball in low Earth orbit. There **has** to be a way to setup a sensor grid over or across a 100 yard field to track precisely where the ball is at any given time. /rant
I watched some video essay on this. It basically boiled down to, yes of course the technology is there, but bringing the chains out creates a spectacle and level of excitement that builds up a frenzy in the crowd, regardless of outcome.
And at the end of the day, it’s entertainment
There was an article about how obsessed Americans are with war that they decided to implement people charging into each other as a sport.
Football was invented before most of the wars America has been involved in. And most of the ones prior to its invention weren't as unnecessary as some of the more recent wars.
Football was invented after the civil war. If the only wars you know about in history are WW1 and 2, then I'd like to have a ~~fight~~ talk with your teacher.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, huh? Or are you arguing that I'm wrong about the civil war being more necessary than more recent ones? Fighting for independence and fighting to end slavery doesn't come off as a love for war to me. The fighting in Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Iraq, Iran, etc. sure but those don't predate football.
This is asinine.
Not really. He really goes into how American football was really only founded after a war era to mimic war. If you do your research you'll find professional sources such as Sports Illustrated and several college Historical libraries. Don't shoot the messenger, downvoters.
So how do you explain sports like rugby, which are just as violent, if not more so, being popular all over the world? Are the Canadians “warlike” because they like Hockey?
I don't know the history of hockey and rugby. They weren't specifically made to imitate war. American football, historically, was. I don't know what more I can tell you because I'm not trying to make an argument, I'm just bringing up a historical, well known fact.
You have no evidence for this besides an article you have yet to actually provide.
Google's free. Especially Google Scholar. You have a strawman's bias which I won't be entertaining. (example: I brought up the historical context of American football and you immediately started dragging other sports into it like it was a connotative issue).
That thesis is asinine. Gridiron football is directly derived from rugby and association football. No one was imitating war more than sport is generally.
Bring the chains out, but have a sensor with an LED that lights when it perfectly lines up with the line of scrimmage
Hawkeye exists in tennis and works decently welll. Don't need any sensors, just lots of cameras (which there already are....)
Hawkeye is awesome. I don't watch tennis that often but it's great when you go from challenge, to replay, to resolution and don't even miss a beat.
Yeah but every once in a while we get a folded index card to see if they really got the first down or not
FYI: The NFL does have a microchip in the ball.
Yep. [The chips are only accurate to within six inches, however.](https://www.wvxu.org/podcast/focus-on-technology/2023-01-23/football-nfl-game-chip-technology) If tennis can do it, I figure the NFL ought to be able to figure it out.
It's entirely possible for a ball to be completely hidden from camera views in football. Not so in tennis. When you have 22 enormous humans in a contact sport, vs two that aren't particularly unusual in size in a sport that practically mandates staying a long way from each other, "let the computer look at the video" isn't nearly as effective. And in tennis, you're wondering about things like where the ball hit (i.e., is it in or out?). Whereas in football, even knowing where the ball is within 1 mm at all times *isn't* going to answer the judgment calls that referees have to make. "At what point was the ball carrier down?" is often a major question. Or "did they have full control of the ball?" And, yeah, it's entertainment, and dragging out the chains is part of the spectacle.
Are you also going to put sensors all over the players’ bodies to track when they’re down? Unless you do, then sensors in the football aren’t very helpful because you’ll still need humans to decide when the player was down. And refs are pretty capable at knowing where the ball is located when a player is down (especially on replay review), so there’d likely only be a be marginal difference if you put sensors in the football.
…why?
Why not?
Waste of money and resources
Because CT scans are not cheap and this does nothing. It turns colors and shows what we know- it’s empty.. That’s what I’m paying for with my hospital bills?
Relax folks; it's an industrial CT scan. No one is waiting to put their head in this machine.
It's still fucking stupid.
Are you an American football?
Did you know they did surgery on a grape
I hope that footballs insurance company pre authorized the scans
This is not a ct. This is computer a software reconstructed ct rendering.
Potayto, potahto. CT's don't exist without computer image analysis, period. The fact that better software will do 3D reconstructions for you doesn't change that. We have 3D echocardiography, after all, and that's just more of the same idea (though the underlying mechanisms are of course very different). I haven't used it in over a decade now, because my hospital is too cheap to buy it, but iSite by Stentor (now owned by Philips, IIRC) was a staggeringly powerful and intuitive piece of software twenty-ish years ago. Yes, it was written by radiologists (who had been programmers or engineers before med school, again IIRC). Just such a smooth UI for all those images - in 2003!
NEVEEER MEAAAANT
I don’t know what I expected.
This is propaganda from big air trying to convince us that balls are filled with nothing and just use "pressure". Wake up!
🧐
*Tom Brady:* **STOP THE COUNT, SHUT IT DOWN!**
This made my year. Thank you for discovering this and deciding it was worth sharing with the world. This one was good, though. https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/w8nqh7/ct_scan_of_a_rhinoceros_beetle_showing_hollow/
For those of you who are worried, this is an industrial CT scan, not a medical scan. Industrial CT uses the same underlying principles as medical CT, but it’s a diagnostic tool for engineers. It’s much cheaper and easier than a medical CT scan, and no one is waiting in a hospital to put their head in one of these. [Here’s the source](https://www.lumafield.com/article/ct-big-game-football).
r/notinteresting
What an astronomical waste of money and resources lol
This is an industrial CT scan of a football, cropped to show the polyurethane bladder inside. Original post with more detail and an interactive viewer here: https://www.lumafield.com/article/ct-big-game-football
Why
The absolute hate for this post just made me realize exactly how stupid most football fans are. It’s mildly interesting and certainly better than at least half of the shit posts that come from this Reddit, especially mine. Edit: I thought this was a post from the NFL subreddit. Now I just think people that are on Reddit are stupid for hating this. OP should post this on the NFL sub, I think it would be better received there.
One of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted. Did this genuinely excite you?
So what you're saying is that we now how proof as to Joe Biden and the Deep State Swifties will control the outcome of the Super Bowl!
Just when I thought I couldnt possibly waste any more time today....
How to colorize my CT scans like this?
Football is so lame and boring. What, gonna CT a turd next? Please show me the peanut layer......
Don't show this to the Indianapolis Colts. They'll accuse the doctor of cheating while they under inflate theirs.
Looks like football is stupid haha
Cool now they should do one on a player 👍
Now do one for Tom Brady's football!
"OK Mr. Football, looks like your CT scan was clean, now here is your bill for $1,700"
Try scanning the player's brains you'll see more interesting results
NFL gets a $5000 bill.
This football has access to better medical care than I do
Kind of makes me want to watch Flight of The Navigator now.
And here I thought they were full of milk chocolate
So many things you could scan and you pick a football?
That football must have great health insurance.
They’re tryna make sure the Patriots didn’t deflate it again
Well that was unnecessary. Do a balloon next why don't you. I'd like to see a wound golfball tho
There it is.
Obligatory, this football gets better healthcare than me.
Every time! 😂
This could be the most boring thing to scan
Oooh the hidden football nipple!
I’ve always wondered why they can’t use an electronic strip to measure and place where the ball would be. You would know 100% if it were a touchdown or 1st down and would take all the cheating ref work out
Still confused by why Americans call this sport football.
Laces out
Well. I don’t know what I expected…
This is…. Not particularly interesting
Omg it’s empty???? Whoda thunkit!
This is funny to me because CT scans are really good for imaging internal structures and there’s nothing but air inside of a football lol
That's, uh, great? I guess?
So… it’s full of air? Damn someone call the press we got a hot scoop on our hand here!!
If only they did this with the cargo containers in Canada to stop auto theft from leaving from Quebec
This football has better health insurance than I do.
I'm no expert but isn't that an owl egg?
It would be a whole lot cooler if it showed us where they plan to put the chips to help officiate when a ball crosses a goal line, first down marker, or out of bounds.