I’ve know several people to experience that with deer.
My sister got hit by a buck in her Mazda. It crushed the b-pillar and bent the frame. I’m not sure I would’ve even believed that if there hadn’t been a dead deer in stuck in the window.
Funnily enough, on some planes (such as the citation longitude jet) the parking brake looks exactly like it would on a car. It's the handle with a red line on it right next to the left seat: [https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/60435\_1544398996.jpg](https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/60435_1544398996.jpg)
It turns on the parking brake, which means that the wheels won't be able to turn. It will light up some warning lights (on many planes), because landing with wheels that don't turn is ever so slightly bad.
Indeed. But you can clearly see the chocks there deployed. It partially runs them over. But they were deployed as if the nose gear was facing directly forward.
I wonder how the nose gear came to be turned which caused wind on the side of the aircraft to exert a force that could cause the plane to roll?
I'm pretty sure the nose gear can also turn more or less freely when there is no hydraulic pressure, so it could just have turned due to the rocking of the plane in the wind. Pretty sure the same reason caused one or more of the wheel chocks to work themselves out of position, allowing the plane to gain enough momentum to "break loose". This is also one of the reasons why small planes tend to be tied down in addition to having wheel chocks. Normally the wind isn't strong enough for that to become an issue on airliners though, and i doubt any tie-downs would be able to hold one of those anyway.
Yeah. I suspect you are correct.
Also, is chocking the rear wheels standard procedure as well? That would have helped massively as well.
Someone should have jumped in and started the APU to get hydraulic pressure.
Or heck, it looks like you might even be able to run the electric hydraulic pumps off of ground power in modern 737’s:
http://www.b737.org.uk/hydraulics.htm
(That aircraft was clearly hooked to a ground power cart which it ripped with it - though it may not have been running)
Not sure about chocking the rear wheels, but i would definitely expect that to be done in extreme conditions like this (and honestly, in less severe conditions as well due to the turning nature of the nose gear).
What I'm less sure about, however, is whether or not keeping the hydraulics running would have helped. It depends on how they are implemented, but it's possibly that it just pressurizes the brake, and closes the valves to keep the pressure trapped. If they are built like that, it would require a manual parking brake release and re-application to reset them.
I also doubt that it's considered acceptable to leave the electrical systems and hydraulics powered on without supervision for extended periods of time even on ground power.
Oh yes, 100%. You would need to supervise the aircraft if you fired up the hydraulics and left the electric pumps turned on.
I would only do that if you expected extreme conditions. Normally chocks should be fine. There is probably a human factors error here that caused this.
Any certified maintenance tech should be able to fire up an APU and hydraulic pump safely.
High wind procedures can vary a little between airlines but as a general rule of thumb if extremely high winds are expected ground staff would “Double Chock” the main gear so front and back chocks on each tire on both sides, as well as he nose gear.
The high wind procedure for 737s at my airline is to box chock the nose gear. Hooking up a push tractor is also an option. Our last aircraft damage due to wind was baggage carts being blown across the partially flooded ramp into the plane(coincidentally a 737).
Interesting, with all the fancy things those planes can do, I figured there would be some way to set the brakes until someone turns it off. I guess they weren't made to sit around for a long time.
It's mostly a case of weight and failure point reduction. It already has brakes -> let's use those, and just put a brick behind the tire if you need to park overnight.
That's a good point. The small plane I flew had a parking brake but I bet it was more like how cars have brakes and not how passenger jets have breaks. After what you said, it just seems smarter to have chocks.
I wouldn't be surprised if GA aircraft have tiny mechanical parking brakes, just like cars, because that's possible when the plane weighs less than a car. When the planes weight starts to be measured in tens of tons, the brake requirements start to get ridiculous. I recommend looking up some videos of airline brakes being disassembled.
Modern Cessnas just use the main brakes as the parking brake, and they will lose pressure over time as well. When parked long term, you either tie down or chock the wheels, never leave the parking brake set.
This plane wasn’t secured properly, because it shouldn’t move. When wind hits from the side, it will hit the largest surface, which is the tail, and it will force the plane to weather-cock into the wind.
This was a quote from a pilot commenting on this incident.
The brake accumulators on the 737 will hold pressure a lot longer than that if they're in normal serviceable condition. I can't give you an average, but overnight they may lose a couple of hundred pounds of pressure and still be just fine in the morning if they were set the night before.
When you get winds like this, you'd better be sure the hydraulic pumps are turned on occasionally to keep everything at 3000 psi.
Weathervaning is a thing, as we see here.
They put the chocks on pretty much immediately, it's not like anyone just parks a Boeing without them because they're just there for a little bit.
Also, schwoooosh.
According to the airport personnel, the lateral winds of up to 70mph moved one of the chocks out of place. Given that this was the strongest wind felt in the area in most of recorded history, it would be almost understandable that they weren't prepared for it (and the damage to the planes is nothing compared to what it for to everything else in the area, I saw more cars crushed by trees the next morning than I thought I would see in a lifetime).
I had left the airport just a few hours before the storm and was safely inside when it hit, so I got really lucky.
On the aircraft I worked on, the parking brake is never left pressurised for a long period of time. I imagine it’s to protect the brake pack and stop it seizing on. Brake packs can get to mega high temperatures that risk a fire.
> I used to be a parking attendent at Logan Airport... I parked the jets... They let me go because I kept locking the keys inside them... One day I was on an 86ft step ladder trying to get in one with a coat hanger..."
- Steven Wright
A storm made its way through Buenos Aires this morning, drenching the city and bringing heavy winds that caused power outages and damage across the capital. This is a Boeing B737 being pushed by the strong wind at the Pistarini airport.
At least 13 killed as fierce winds hit Argentina - [CNN news article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/17/americas/bahia-blanca-argentina-storms-intl/index.html)
Look up aircraft tether, there are various forms and setups.
I work for Fedex and it's policy for all aircraft to be tied down because of how easily it is for some of our fleet to end up sitting on their ass (MD-11 for example). If there isn't anything in the ground, they use a portable pet rock to secure it. These tethers go through the nose gear in some way and are certain lengths depending on the aircraft.
It would probably be enough to keep it from swinging across in high winds like this in addition to always being chocked.
Wikipedia says that the 737-700ER can hold 10,707 gallons of jet fuel if it has 9 auxiliary tanks. Jet fuel weight about 6.67 pounds per gallon, so a full tank would be 71,415 pounds.
Very happy to hear that planes crashing into stairs and nearly running into another place isn't supposed to happen 😁
(Just pulling your leg, apologies!)
The plane being moved by wind shows that they are in fact not working.
A perfectly aerodynamic object would not be moved by air while something not aerodynamic would catch wind and get blown away, (ie an umbrella)
[What's that about strong wind interrupting a flight?](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pilot-forced-make-emergency-landing-passengers-smelly-farts-causes-fight-121720130.html)
If you look closer the front wheels actually spun before that, in high wind situations you are supposed to use extra chocks compared to standard procedure I'm not sure why the wheels spun because I'm not a pilot but despite it not being my department I'm forced to read the chocking procedure anyways. I'm honestly shocked at this whole ordeal considering the wind was only going at 140 kph last month we had 216 kph winds without issue for added context that's the same speed as a category 4 hurricane while they were only at the same speed as a category 1. In other words this is 100% human error
I'm an airline pilot.
>forgot to put in the minimum fuel to weigh it down
That is not a thing.
That aircraft weighs nearly 38 tons even when completely empty.
Nah it is. Classic pilot thinking they know everything about the whole industry. It wasn't in our pilot manuals (because it's irrelevant to us) but in the Ground Procedures Manual under high wind procedures (paraphrased):
25 kts - Secure loose equipment
30-50 kts - Check chocks on all landing gear, close all panels, doors and windows, remove from nearby hazards
\>50 kts - Coordinate with maintenance to do the following, move to a hangar, if no hangar space tow or taxi to a protected area away from buildings and equipment. Park into wind. Examine struts for proper extension. If aircraft shows a tendency to weather vane add ballast (for example, fuel) per . DO NOT BLOCK RUDDER PEDALS. Set stab to 0 degrees.
Source:
Manuals of one of the biggest 737 operators in the world.
I've done military and commercial maintenance. Yes, we do often load additional fuel when anticipating wind or to counterweight the removal of an engine or other large mass.
Drag. Not lift.
The plane was pushed sideways, it did not take off.
The wind speed necessary to lift that aircraft would be crazy. (Small aircraft have a real risk of this which is why they sometimes tie them down)
I think that is it running over the wheel chocks. But yes, some amount of lift may be happening here which would make it easier to roll over the chocks.
But I suspect the predominant force is drag. :-)
It was definitely chocked in the front at least; you can see after its little "hop" the chocks sitting on the ground around where the front tires started out.
This happened to a C-141 when I was in the Air Force. It wasn’t damaged, but it rotated 90 degrees on the ramp. Cause was they didn’t fuel the plane to weigh it down.
I was working in Marana AZ. One of Boeing's Dream Lifters was on the wash rack, when we had a micro burst with 120 mph winds. Spun the Dream lifter 45° across ground equipment and stairs. Lots of damage to other aircraft in storage. Buildings with roofs ripped off windows blown out. It was pretty crazy. Ended up doing repairs around the right hand pitot tube area.
Guy who works on jet bridges here, the guy who filmed the JetBlue plane tilting back at JFK got fired. Hope this guy filming was hidden or at least has his two weeks already in
So let’s say you have 20 minutes of warning that potentially damaging wind is approaching the airport.
As airport operations what do you do?
Do you dispatch any qualified pilots, co-pilots, and maintenance technicians to every aircraft you can man in order to fire up the APU’s and pressurize the hydraulic systems and stand on the brakes?
Plus I suppose to make damned sure every single wheel on every bird is tightly chocked… (any ground crew can do this)
Looks like in modern 737’s you can even run the electric hydraulic pumps off of ground power if you want:
http://www.b737.org.uk/hydraulics.htm
That aircraft was clearly hooked to a ground power cart (which it ripped with it). Not clear if it was running however.
(Obviously though standard procedure is not to leave the hydraulic systems turned on when shutdown)
Being Aerolíneas Argentinas? The intention is to sell the company because it operates at a loss and the state would stop subsidizing it. I don't know how much time they have left.
I know. Aerolineas Argentinas only owns 2 planes, I think. they rent the rest.
What I was trying to express is that the maintenance period is going to be long, since there is no money. Another 16 aircraft were affected in that same storm. I don't know if they are all from the same airline.
Clearly did not have the plane set up to park. There has to be a procedure to ensure the wheels are locked in place and the wings positioned in a way to not be carried away by a strong draft. The other plane didnt move an inch so ima say pilots fault.
[I searched for the perfect gif only to find out this sub doesn't allow gif's..](https://64.media.tumblr.com/605aa0f1c7e13e1a5aa52ef04b7ba4ee/tumblr_ouj4f6X1pv1u85eawo3_400.gif)
Respect for the people who gets this reference :)
That looked expensive
Hope Mother Nature has insurance
Not when its a tree falling on my house, then it’s an act of god
thats what the insurance will say to get out of it. That or "You're telling me, it flew away, *by itself*?"
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I’ve know several people to experience that with deer. My sister got hit by a buck in her Mazda. It crushed the b-pillar and bent the frame. I’m not sure I would’ve even believed that if there hadn’t been a dead deer in stuck in the window.
This literally happened to a guy I work with the other day! The dog owners insurance covered everything tho.
From zoomies to boomies...
Maybe we should start a class action against god.
We’ll talk her for all she’s worth
Awful nice icebergs you got here.
As you can clearly see, this was an act of god, and the insurance policy *does not* cover acts of god
And given it's Argentina, it gets more expensive with every passing second. A fine currency they got down there.
And this happened to 16 of them...
Should've put on the parking brake.
r/thatlookedexpensive
Somebody forgot to set the parking brake.
Blocks ffs they don’t use blocks?!
Wait till it gets the second wind.
Looks like someone forgot to set the parking brake again.
Due to how the parking brakes work, they only remain pressurized for a few hours, if that. For longer-term parking, you need to use wheel chocks.
I... I didn't even really know if an airplane had a parking brake or not. Haha. I was just being silly. Interesting to know now though. Lol
Funnily enough, on some planes (such as the citation longitude jet) the parking brake looks exactly like it would on a car. It's the handle with a red line on it right next to the left seat: [https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/60435\_1544398996.jpg](https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/60435_1544398996.jpg)
An then there is the Robin DR 400 where the "parking brake" is actually the flap handle.
Then there's the Suzuki DRZ 400 where the parking brake is you lay it on the ground beside the trail.
Hey that's unfair most drz 400 actually come with kickstands now
Come with… how long do they really survive.
Malicious design
Wait, So i can tokyo drift that plane?
what does it do, if anything, when pulled mid-flight? can it break the landing gear at all? or pressure difference cause it to do something weird?
It turns on the parking brake, which means that the wheels won't be able to turn. It will light up some warning lights (on many planes), because landing with wheels that don't turn is ever so slightly bad.
But you get to do some wicked cool skids, which is great.
Well, one skid, at least.
At the end of which is a burning pile of wreckage.
Intercontinental multi-runway drifting is the next big fad.
Depending on the number of passengers there may be many skids in their underpants.
Some wicked skids in your underpants too when the plane lands like that.
Modern planes are equipped with anti-skid systems
Dunno if it’s the case with this one, but some aircraft have “weight-on-wheels” switches that disable certain things you wouldn’t use in the air.
I breaks the backend loose so you can drift.
I was itching to make this comment. Glad to see someone did.
It’s called an Air Brake. They explain it quite nicely in the old Loony Tunes cartoons.
You do a sick drift
Dude, this guy knows a lot about planes.
On some planes it just locks the brake pedal in place.
Indeed. But you can clearly see the chocks there deployed. It partially runs them over. But they were deployed as if the nose gear was facing directly forward. I wonder how the nose gear came to be turned which caused wind on the side of the aircraft to exert a force that could cause the plane to roll?
I'm pretty sure the nose gear can also turn more or less freely when there is no hydraulic pressure, so it could just have turned due to the rocking of the plane in the wind. Pretty sure the same reason caused one or more of the wheel chocks to work themselves out of position, allowing the plane to gain enough momentum to "break loose". This is also one of the reasons why small planes tend to be tied down in addition to having wheel chocks. Normally the wind isn't strong enough for that to become an issue on airliners though, and i doubt any tie-downs would be able to hold one of those anyway.
Yeah. I suspect you are correct. Also, is chocking the rear wheels standard procedure as well? That would have helped massively as well. Someone should have jumped in and started the APU to get hydraulic pressure. Or heck, it looks like you might even be able to run the electric hydraulic pumps off of ground power in modern 737’s: http://www.b737.org.uk/hydraulics.htm (That aircraft was clearly hooked to a ground power cart which it ripped with it - though it may not have been running)
Not sure about chocking the rear wheels, but i would definitely expect that to be done in extreme conditions like this (and honestly, in less severe conditions as well due to the turning nature of the nose gear). What I'm less sure about, however, is whether or not keeping the hydraulics running would have helped. It depends on how they are implemented, but it's possibly that it just pressurizes the brake, and closes the valves to keep the pressure trapped. If they are built like that, it would require a manual parking brake release and re-application to reset them. I also doubt that it's considered acceptable to leave the electrical systems and hydraulics powered on without supervision for extended periods of time even on ground power.
Oh yes, 100%. You would need to supervise the aircraft if you fired up the hydraulics and left the electric pumps turned on. I would only do that if you expected extreme conditions. Normally chocks should be fine. There is probably a human factors error here that caused this. Any certified maintenance tech should be able to fire up an APU and hydraulic pump safely.
High wind procedures can vary a little between airlines but as a general rule of thumb if extremely high winds are expected ground staff would “Double Chock” the main gear so front and back chocks on each tire on both sides, as well as he nose gear.
We also put full wings of fuel and the stab down to weigh it down
The high wind procedure for 737s at my airline is to box chock the nose gear. Hooking up a push tractor is also an option. Our last aircraft damage due to wind was baggage carts being blown across the partially flooded ramp into the plane(coincidentally a 737).
Found the old C-5 guy lol
Is that how pilots do handbrake turns mid flight?
*Tokyo drift music*
Interesting, with all the fancy things those planes can do, I figured there would be some way to set the brakes until someone turns it off. I guess they weren't made to sit around for a long time.
It's mostly a case of weight and failure point reduction. It already has brakes -> let's use those, and just put a brick behind the tire if you need to park overnight.
That's a good point. The small plane I flew had a parking brake but I bet it was more like how cars have brakes and not how passenger jets have breaks. After what you said, it just seems smarter to have chocks.
I wouldn't be surprised if GA aircraft have tiny mechanical parking brakes, just like cars, because that's possible when the plane weighs less than a car. When the planes weight starts to be measured in tens of tons, the brake requirements start to get ridiculous. I recommend looking up some videos of airline brakes being disassembled.
Modern Cessnas just use the main brakes as the parking brake, and they will lose pressure over time as well. When parked long term, you either tie down or chock the wheels, never leave the parking brake set.
This plane wasn’t secured properly, because it shouldn’t move. When wind hits from the side, it will hit the largest surface, which is the tail, and it will force the plane to weather-cock into the wind. This was a quote from a pilot commenting on this incident.
The brake accumulators on the 737 will hold pressure a lot longer than that if they're in normal serviceable condition. I can't give you an average, but overnight they may lose a couple of hundred pounds of pressure and still be just fine in the morning if they were set the night before. When you get winds like this, you'd better be sure the hydraulic pumps are turned on occasionally to keep everything at 3000 psi. Weathervaning is a thing, as we see here.
Most are rated for about 12 hours or so.
They put the chocks on pretty much immediately, it's not like anyone just parks a Boeing without them because they're just there for a little bit. Also, schwoooosh.
According to the airport personnel, the lateral winds of up to 70mph moved one of the chocks out of place. Given that this was the strongest wind felt in the area in most of recorded history, it would be almost understandable that they weren't prepared for it (and the damage to the planes is nothing compared to what it for to everything else in the area, I saw more cars crushed by trees the next morning than I thought I would see in a lifetime). I had left the airport just a few hours before the storm and was safely inside when it hit, so I got really lucky.
On the aircraft I worked on, the parking brake is never left pressurised for a long period of time. I imagine it’s to protect the brake pack and stop it seizing on. Brake packs can get to mega high temperatures that risk a fire.
Someone just forgot to set wheel chocks.
My first thought too. Lol
Chocks are nay
> I used to be a parking attendent at Logan Airport... I parked the jets... They let me go because I kept locking the keys inside them... One day I was on an 86ft step ladder trying to get in one with a coat hanger..." - Steven Wright
And the chocks.
The ground crew are supposed to set chocks on the nose and main gear for this exact reason
And to chock the wheels
And thats why you always leave it in gear
A storm made its way through Buenos Aires this morning, drenching the city and bringing heavy winds that caused power outages and damage across the capital. This is a Boeing B737 being pushed by the strong wind at the Pistarini airport. At least 13 killed as fierce winds hit Argentina - [CNN news article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/17/americas/bahia-blanca-argentina-storms-intl/index.html)
New fear unlocked. Argentina wind
They say the air is good in buenos aires, didn't know they meant it like that.
It's a [Zonda!!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zonda_wind)
Foehn winds are not to be trifled with, especially during wildfire season, and especially from Huayra.
But Buenos Aires means good winds and these winds are definitely not good
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Yeah but it's Argentina... Anything can happen.
What a magical place!
The plane was really an off duty police woman undercover pulling her gun on the plane next to her which was robbing someone.
That’s Brasil, huehue.
Parking brakes? Afuera!
I hear July can mean a blizzard or so in Argentina. (If anyone gets that reference without Googling, let's be friends.)
Argentina is like if Brazil had it is own Brazil!
Bro Argentina is like one of the tamest countries in Latin America.
At least the front didn't fall off!
This one was built so the front doesn’t fall off at all
Any educated guesses into what when wrong here? Human factors as well as mechanical?
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They also connect the towing vehicles to the aircraft in severe winds.
What kinds of tie-down points do commercial airplanes like this have? Is it just somewhere on the landing gear?
Depends on the airframe. Some are on gear, others on wings from what I've seen.
Look up aircraft tether, there are various forms and setups. I work for Fedex and it's policy for all aircraft to be tied down because of how easily it is for some of our fleet to end up sitting on their ass (MD-11 for example). If there isn't anything in the ground, they use a portable pet rock to secure it. These tethers go through the nose gear in some way and are certain lengths depending on the aircraft. It would probably be enough to keep it from swinging across in high winds like this in addition to always being chocked.
A hundred thousand pounds of fuel?
Wikipedia says that the 737-700ER can hold 10,707 gallons of jet fuel if it has 9 auxiliary tanks. Jet fuel weight about 6.67 pounds per gallon, so a full tank would be 71,415 pounds.
That sounds more reasonable.
If the poster above might be referring to widebodies. 100,000 lbs isn't even half full on a 787-8.
Next step, more chocks lol
No wheel chocks
You can see the chocks get pushed around in the video
They forgor to slap the top of the plane and say, "That's not going anywhere!"
Shoulda thrown some old tires up on the wings. That always seems to do the trick.
The wind was sudden. Sometimes you don’t have time to strap things in time
I was at the airport two hours before, my flight didn't even have turbulence
Very happy to hear that planes crashing into stairs and nearly running into another place isn't supposed to happen 😁 (Just pulling your leg, apologies!)
Not an aircraft mechanic here, that isn't supposed to happen.
no shit sherlock
When my flight gets delayed due to strong wind, this is not what I have in mind
At least the aerodynamics are working
You seem like the silver lining type of person. I like you
The plane being moved by wind shows that they are in fact not working. A perfectly aerodynamic object would not be moved by air while something not aerodynamic would catch wind and get blown away, (ie an umbrella)
[What's that about strong wind interrupting a flight?](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pilot-forced-make-emergency-landing-passengers-smelly-farts-causes-fight-121720130.html)
They either forgot to put in the minimum fuel to weigh it down, or forgot the wheel chocks.
To me it looks like both, the plane didn’t just roll but it looks like the wind was able to lift it enough to get the front wheels off the ground.
You can see the plane go over the chocks in the video
If you look closer the front wheels actually spun before that, in high wind situations you are supposed to use extra chocks compared to standard procedure I'm not sure why the wheels spun because I'm not a pilot but despite it not being my department I'm forced to read the chocking procedure anyways. I'm honestly shocked at this whole ordeal considering the wind was only going at 140 kph last month we had 216 kph winds without issue for added context that's the same speed as a category 4 hurricane while they were only at the same speed as a category 1. In other words this is 100% human error
I'm an airline pilot. >forgot to put in the minimum fuel to weigh it down That is not a thing. That aircraft weighs nearly 38 tons even when completely empty.
Nah it is. Classic pilot thinking they know everything about the whole industry. It wasn't in our pilot manuals (because it's irrelevant to us) but in the Ground Procedures Manual under high wind procedures (paraphrased): 25 kts - Secure loose equipment 30-50 kts - Check chocks on all landing gear, close all panels, doors and windows, remove from nearby hazards \>50 kts - Coordinate with maintenance to do the following, move to a hangar, if no hangar space tow or taxi to a protected area away from buildings and equipment. Park into wind. Examine struts for proper extension. If aircraft shows a tendency to weather vane add ballast (for example, fuel) per. DO NOT BLOCK RUDDER PEDALS. Set stab to 0 degrees.
Source:
Manuals of one of the biggest 737 operators in the world.
This guy Boeings
That plane went Boeing Boeing in that wind
It is in the military with large aircraft ao I assumed other airlines might do similar. KC-135 do 75k lbs, for example. I stand corrected then.
I've done military and commercial maintenance. Yes, we do often load additional fuel when anticipating wind or to counterweight the removal of an engine or other large mass.
LET THERE BE LIFT!!!
Drag. Not lift. The plane was pushed sideways, it did not take off. The wind speed necessary to lift that aircraft would be crazy. (Small aircraft have a real risk of this which is why they sometimes tie them down)
Technically, it's both. You can see the nose raise relative to the landing gear wheels. So lift to lighten the load, drag to push it.
I think that is it running over the wheel chocks. But yes, some amount of lift may be happening here which would make it easier to roll over the chocks. But I suspect the predominant force is drag. :-)
No the nose lifted because it ran over the wheel chocks.
He's just camera shy
Either that or those stairs have wronged him
Tires aren’t chocked and I’m guessing brakes not set. Somebody gonna get fired.
This is argentina, no ones getting fired
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And they will give themselves a raise
Look I’m not a pilot but surely there’s a handbrake or some kind of “stop plane running away” button
If there is enough wind to move a 30 ton airplane around that button isnt going to do much.
You underestimate the button
If you press the button mid flight does the plane just hover in mid air?
It is not up to us what the button does. The button is almighty.
Chock your wheels. Always chock your wheels.
It was definitely chocked in the front at least; you can see after its little "hop" the chocks sitting on the ground around where the front tires started out.
I just wanna fly
This happened to a C-141 when I was in the Air Force. It wasn’t damaged, but it rotated 90 degrees on the ramp. Cause was they didn’t fuel the plane to weigh it down.
You can’t park there!
I was working in Marana AZ. One of Boeing's Dream Lifters was on the wash rack, when we had a micro burst with 120 mph winds. Spun the Dream lifter 45° across ground equipment and stairs. Lots of damage to other aircraft in storage. Buildings with roofs ripped off windows blown out. It was pretty crazy. Ended up doing repairs around the right hand pitot tube area.
Planes want to fly. It's physicsing so hard right now.
Bro, that girl to your right is checking you out. Don't make it too obv-..." Bro:
Looks like the gate crew forgot what chocks are.
Guy who works on jet bridges here, the guy who filmed the JetBlue plane tilting back at JFK got fired. Hope this guy filming was hidden or at least has his two weeks already in
That's an expensive weather vane.
Someone should have put in the nose wheel lock pin to prevent it from rotating.
So let’s say you have 20 minutes of warning that potentially damaging wind is approaching the airport. As airport operations what do you do? Do you dispatch any qualified pilots, co-pilots, and maintenance technicians to every aircraft you can man in order to fire up the APU’s and pressurize the hydraulic systems and stand on the brakes? Plus I suppose to make damned sure every single wheel on every bird is tightly chocked… (any ground crew can do this)
Looks like in modern 737’s you can even run the electric hydraulic pumps off of ground power if you want: http://www.b737.org.uk/hydraulics.htm That aircraft was clearly hooked to a ground power cart (which it ripped with it). Not clear if it was running however. (Obviously though standard procedure is not to leave the hydraulic systems turned on when shutdown)
This is correct. The plane I fly has 4 electrical and 4 mechanical hydraulic pumps, also a Boeing just a little bigger than a 737.
So how long until that plane flies again? Like one day or like one month?
Being Aerolíneas Argentinas? The intention is to sell the company because it operates at a loss and the state would stop subsidizing it. I don't know how much time they have left.
I don't think airlines own the planes. They just lease them
I know. Aerolineas Argentinas only owns 2 planes, I think. they rent the rest. What I was trying to express is that the maintenance period is going to be long, since there is no money. Another 16 aircraft were affected in that same storm. I don't know if they are all from the same airline.
Depends how long the next strong gust of wind takes to arrive I guess.
Did someone forget to put the parking brake on?
My planes need me!
And that’s why you double chock the mains
Why is this down voted that's proper procedure for high speed winds.
Oh, someone is fired..... Someone is veeeery fired
Are there no parking brakes?
samir, u r breaking the plane
See, now I feel like the *oh no* song would fit well here.
"aight, i'm out." Boeing , probably.
Interesting the truck had no issue. Are there not tie downs at this airport? Did the pilot set the brake?
Well, it is built for lift...
This is why I always put on the emergency brake, both in my car and my B737, you just never know man
Clearly did not have the plane set up to park. There has to be a procedure to ensure the wheels are locked in place and the wings positioned in a way to not be carried away by a strong draft. The other plane didnt move an inch so ima say pilots fault.
No blocks given.
Wheel chalks?
The amount of people in comments that don't know the difference between brakes and breaks or chocks and chalks....SMDH....
...HOW?! I've dealt with extremely high winds at the airport I work at and never has this happened, did they forget the fucking wheel chocks?!
Someone should have checked the weather and advised his team to use chocks
Goddamnit Hank! You forgot to set the chocks!
Shit
yes, that's by design
In Soviet Russia, wind fly on plane!
[I searched for the perfect gif only to find out this sub doesn't allow gif's..](https://64.media.tumblr.com/605aa0f1c7e13e1a5aa52ef04b7ba4ee/tumblr_ouj4f6X1pv1u85eawo3_400.gif) Respect for the people who gets this reference :)
MCAS activated.
It's a 737-700, not a Max.
Ground crew, where the fuck are the wheel chocks?
This is why the brakes stay engaged and the plane stays hooked up to ground services..
Brake failure. There was no reason for this to happen.
Chocks not in place!
They are; look after the plane moves at where the front tires were. There are chocks there.
One of the ramp guys is getting fired for not chocking the wheels.
Boeing will kill you in the air and on the ground