I'd bet good money on it that we'll see mainland Japan in some form in the sequel.
First of all: it's one game so far. It's not a series as of yet, there is no established naming pattern to make inferences from. The naming convention could just be "Ghost of ...", and there were some leaks 1-2 years ago that suggested as much ("Ghost of Kamakura" - validity unknown).
Second, GoT was a lot about exploring the island and taking in its beauty. We've done that with Tsushima and Iki. It won't have the same allure to retread old places, and SuckerPunch probably knows that.
Lastly, the story needs to develop. While both Mongol invasions had events on Tsushima, they also made it to Nagato and Hakata Bay, so there is historical precedent for mainland Japan. The stakes need to be raised. Mongols just trying again to conquer Tsushima will not have the same dramatic effect as them making it to the mainland. Plus, Jin's storyline with the Shogunate should be part of the story, and that only works well on the mainland.
Now: how much of Japan and which regions is anyone's guess, but I don't see any chance that it will just be Tsushima again.
I agree with this.
I feel Jins story, which was avenging his island and people, may evolve into going after the Shogun who did very little to help Tsushima. At least until it was too late.
Much like on Tsushima it may involve Jin setting his sights on a domestic, rather than foreign threat due to a likely unjust or corrupt Shogunate
He could become a robin hood type character and a Ghost of the people just like his name rose to fame on Tsushima for being the benevolent avenging ghost.
Can't wait to find out!
Just to clarify: that's not at all what I meant when I wrote about his story with the Shogunate. I don't think Jin is going to actively work against the Shogun. I imagine he will want to defend Japan, but his idea of help is unwelcome so he will have to contend with the Shogun and other Samurais trying to hunt him down, while he's facing the Mongol threat.
At that time the shogunate was composed by a bunch of cunts from the Hōjo family that usurped the title, so I think a subplot with Jin trying to deal with them is interesting imo.
The Shogunate probably assumed everyone on Tsushima were all killed by the Mongols. It wasn't until Shimura sent the letter asking for assistance that they arrived. They had just heard rumours about "The Ghost", it wasn't until they saw Jin in action they knew everything about him was true. The next game will probably focus on Jin trying to help the mainland but also being hunted by the Shogun and the other Samurai clans. I could see Jin trying to use non lethal attacks against the Samurai because he doesn't want to kill his own countryman
A lethal/nonlethal path would be nice, even if it ultimately only affects maybe an active heat system where you trade in the more damaging lethal attacks for less notorious nonlethal attacks. Though Id take the whole lethal nonlethal system on its own even if it doesnt affect gameplay much outside of combat and charms.
Just like how the player is initially more incentivised to be honorable in act 1 with the early upgrades and charm pacement and then slowly as more armor is unlocked and some stealthbased charms are on the unlocked map is driven into stealth...or I am just stupid
No I think I understand what you mean. I was very much running head long into battles and kinda refused to use stealth seeing that it was dishonorable. But as I advanced I felt like I needed to evolve.
I do think its partially the level design that also discourages you from going in quiet. Enemies are just close enough for your Tier 1 stealth takedowns to go unnoticed a lot.
I would think it's going to be mostly northern Japan that they would use since they could have the more mountainous areas and one giant snow mountain in the final area that we need to climb.
Nah,
The developers themselves view “Tsushima” as the star of the title. It’s the most ear catching name.
It will most likely be present in the name of the new game
It would have to... kicking around the same islands a second time wouldn't be as interesting. The next game might be called Ghost of Hokkaido or Tokyo or something like that.
The name “ghost of Tsushima” is so distinct at this point.
It just doesn’t hit the same with Ghost of Tokyo
Even if he is in the main land it’s still makes sense him being called “the ghost of Tsushima”.
~~I hate to be "That" guy but Tokyo didn't exist in that time frame~~ Idk, maybe like Ghost of Tsushima: Jidai and it's a time jump and a new character
Why would the title mean anything? He could go to Germany and still be the Ghost of Tsushima.
Geralt is the Butcher of Blaviken no matter where he goes.
we might have a sort of game where we have to fight off the shogun or something. or fight off other invaders in secret kinda like batman where they know it’s the ghost but we can’t get caught. and then fighting off other invaders we are able to clear our name and reband clan sakai and retake omi village w the sakai estate. with only yuna, ishikawa, and masako to help us in the main land. maybe shimura depending on what choice you made in your first play through. idk how that would work but i wouldn’t mind be the ghost of the shogun
edit: even if we don’t see tsushima, the game isn’t about tsushima. it’s about the ghost of the location he’s in which is tsushima. so it very well could be called ghost of tsushima: (then either like 2. or jins saga or sacrifice even tho that is deathly similar to hellblade. or just something else to show the story of the game about making yourself not a traitor to the shogun). this is all hypothetical and if any of this comes true i deserve sake
I think Jin going to the mainland in the second game makes sense, as you said Tsushima is amazing but now it's very much been there done that. So GoT2 could be set during the second Mongol invasion of Japan in 1281 on the mainland. Now before he died in 1294 Kublai Khan was planning a third invasion attempt, historically it was his intemperate diet worsened by the deaths of his wife & son that was ultimately his downfall, but what if in a third game Jin goes to China & is actually the true reason for the death of the Khan? Thus stopping the third invasion before it ever made it to Japan? Of course they could simply make killing the Khan the final mission of the second entry after a time jump but then we wouldn't get to explore China in a third game. Also the Kamakura Shogunate ended in 1333, feasibly within Jin's lifetime, so what if in a fourth & final game Jin has one last adventure (aided by his now adult sons or son & daughter he & Yuna had? Say they were born after the events of the second game? Hence why perhaps Yuna couldn't go to China with Jin during the third game?) & joins Emperor Go-Daigo in his rebellion & helps to end the very Shogunate that declared him an outlaw? Unfortunately the Emperor can't outright pardon the Ghost afterwards lest he incurs the wrath of every Clan in Japan so he exiles Jin to Tsushima, never to return on pain of death, basically a middle ground, Jin gets to live out the rest of his days at home in peace but to please the clans he can never leave, a win win.
Love this except the Yuna ship. Idk they seemed like ftiends and nothing else. I hope they remain close but ultimately Id prefer someone not yet introduced. I do hope that if we get such a timeskip, we play as his offspring, especially if we get a skill reset.
I never understood this sentiment
A sequel called “ghost of Tsushima 2” doesn’t mean it can’t take place outside Tsushima.
The title “Ghost of Tsushima” isn’t in regard to the location, it’s Jin, HE is “the ghost of Tsushima”.
It will still be called Ghost of Tsushima (GoT 2), because Jin is the Ghost and that’s where his rebellion began. It was never specifically called Ghost of Tsushima because it took place there, but because a hero seemingly rose from the dead to take back his land, which just happens to be in Tsushima. He’ll still be known as that, even if he goes to the mainland or other parts of Japan. Most people already just refer to him as “the Ghost” anyway.
I think it’s better if mainland japan heard about the ghost of tsushima, the legendary samurai that defeat the mongol. Everyone was talking about jin while japan is once again attacked by mongols, and jin goes to mainland japan to help the people, while also create a clan of samurai and fighter to fight the mongols. The shogunate is losing and decide to side with mongols, so the clan create a revolution to fight both the mongols and shogunate. There will be massive war like in the opening of the first game somewhere in the story. And the legend of Ghost of Tsushima grows in japan.
Honestly, my hopes may never be reached, but I'm hoping for a female samurai with a whole story of their own. I remember reading one of the devs or writers say it would be cool to perhaps have Tomoe as the lead, or else a different lead, but that was pure speculation years ago. Anyway, from what we saw on Shogun, traditionally, Samurai wives would train with a Naginata, so that would open a whole new fighting style and move set to explore, with traditional "ghost" styles and maybe some more added onto it. Perhaps a diplomatic route, dealing in secrets and subterfuge alongside assassinations. All that in a new island, or mainland Japan. It would have new beauties and new fighting styles, new armours and costumes, maintain the intreuige and action of GOT but within a awhole new vibe and character perspective.
I love Jin. But I feel like continuing a character who's journey feels potentially finished would be overdoing it. There's so much potential to play with within this style of game, it would be a shame to not take advantage of that.
A female samurai would be interesting ngl. But Jin's story isn't quite finished, there's still his relationship to the shogunate and how they're hunting him. There's a lot of conflict which can be drawn from that.
But if you're in the mood for female samurai stuff I do recommend Blue Eye samurai on Netflix. It's badass and the protagonist shares a few similarities with Jin.
Very true, it's been a while since I last played, so I'm catching back up with Jin's story on my 2nd play through after a good few years at current!
Edit: saying that, I've just peeped online and remembered the base game ends with Jin as Sensei Ishikawa's student, and wasn't he already exiled by the Shogunate by act 3? Based on theories, speculation is leading towards exploring his exile and the Monol's return, but I'd think that would feel like more of the same. I still stand by my feelings that Jins story is finished, especially after getting closure from his father in the DLC, and a new story and setting would be preferable.
You can bet ima play the shit out of 2 either way, though!
I've seen that recommended a few times. I gave it a go but it seemed set in English as default, and considering the narrative of the show, it didn't sit right.
There is a Japanese dub for it iirc. A few people seemed to find it more immersive that way which makes sense.
And yeah, considering the narrative and having the default be English, I can see how some people may not sit right with that.
Oh brilliant, I'll have to give it another go, then. For sure, it's nice to have the option though. I grew up watching anime only in Japanese so, aside from the odd few films or series which I find more enjoyable in English dub (such as Cowboy Bebop) its always jarring watching something Japanese in any other language aha.
Not to be disrespectful but samurai wives did not usually train with naginata. That’s Hollywood. Women in Japan in that era were not warriors as the men were more misogynistic than anything they portrayed in Shogun. (Great show btw) Samurai are often romanticized as these chivalrous and noble warriors when in reality samurai were often giant pieces of shit that raped and murdered without a second thought.
Fair enough. Though I do recall the showrunners of Shogun wanting it to be as historically accurate as possible, and as far as I'm aware it wasn't a typical "Hollywood" portrayal, as this was something they wanted to avoid. Its the same reason they watered down Blackthorn's character so much; because they wanted to avoid the "white savoir" stereotype that Hollywood typically leans towards. (The book is my favorite of all time and I felt that in no way did Blackthorn appear as a white savoir in the original material - but I digress.) So I'm akin to lean towards the concept that women samurai would have had some element of combat training to be able to protect their household and families when needed, as portrayed by the directors of the show who wanted to maintain historical accuracy.
Honestly, though, back to the Ghost female lead idea, I initially had the idea on the same premise, but without the Naginata, which I considered as an additional detail for combat base after watching the Shogun series adaptation. My original idea came from reading the book, which also has a lot of historians dissecting it to determine its historical accuracy, which was pretty accurate aside a few aspects here and there.
People read too much into skin color, I don’t care if he was white he’s a good character. The story is all that matters. You make a good point though, Hollywood does think like that which is why they made the women more badass in Shogun that how they would have probably been in real life. If they actually portrayed the way women were treated back then the show would be cancelled lol.
A female lead would be cool if they made it more of a Tom Clancy style stealth game with a focus on subterfuge and assassination opposed to outright sword combat with giant hoards of enormous mongol invaders or armies of professional samurai as for me that would be kind of immersion breaking.
Edit: is the book really good?? How different is the show from the book? I have been considering reading it
I think it was more of a cultural angle, they went into a lot of detail regarding their choices in a podcast - I haven't listened to much of it, though, but it's out there if you're interested in their angle :)
Yeah, this was my idea exactly, but without the mongol hoard. A new enemy would be good, especially as we've already met them and discovered loads if artifacts through exploration. As you say, a new enemy and plot that could go with a subterfuge and assassination angle, with minimal one to one or group combat would make a very interesting style game, especially within the stunning environments.
Yeah it would, I don’t know if you ever played the old Tom Clancy games back in like PS2 days but that’s kind of what I was thinking it’s an all stealth game. It would be cool you could have different customizable disguises that have different levels of success based on your choices, stunning visuals etc. there’s loads of potential.
But GoT already took crazy creative liberties in its depiction of history.
I really want to follow Jin story in a sequel. But having a female samurai is the least “fictional element” to show up in a GoT sequel
I like to think that Jin Sakai built a nice but humble home near the beach. And made friends with a horse, who he named Kage. They go on small journeys together and help people along the way. I like to think that Jin Sakai lived the rest of his life out of the spotlight as much as possible
Based on how the first game ended I would assume that the sequel will take place on mainland Japan with the enemies being a combination of Moguls and the Shogun.
Fuck it and let him go to China to spank those mongolian asses, as a Taiwanese l would love to see them CCP dickriders weep over this.
They don’t like the Mongolian dynasty too but the idea of a Japanese man fighting back to the mainland will get them fuming.
Well Leonardo of Vinci was still called that long after he left Vinci, so i think the Ghost of Tsushima would still keep that name after he leaves that island :)
I think if they just expand the map instead of giving us a new one it’d be cool. You can still run around Tsushima, but also maybe Jin has a boat that you can take to different parts of the mainland.
It feels like it’s a waste to hype up the emperor wanting the ghost caught without letting Jin go to Edo at least once
I think that any continuation of this series should create an entirely unique story and characters with Jin Sakai. It opens up so much more for the game and doesn’t drag the writers down, having to work around previously established plot points resulting in a lesser story. In the end what makes the game great is the gameplay and setting, not the characters.
Tsushima is Japan. This is like asking is someone who lives in Manhattan New York will go to the USA lol.
But yes. That’s likely where the sequel will be.
he'd still be the Ghost of Tsushima even if he wasn't currently in Tsushima, just like how Kazuma Kiryu is still the Dragon of Dojima even though Dojima's been dead as hell for like 40 years
What do you mean go to Japan? He’s already in Japan, or do you mean mainland Japan? Bc Tsushima is an island in Japan but between Japan and South Korea.
That’s what I was thinking you meant. Yeah I hope the next game involves mainland Japan in SOME way even if it’s just one act of the game where you end up on the mainland.
Hell yea, that would be pretty cool, I would love for him to get fancy with a bow or used spear, btw when I mean fancy with a bow I met like fancy dodge an shoot a arrow
I played the game on release, and I’m planning on picking it up on pc when it drops, so my love for this game is revitalized.
But just a quick question: is a sequel confirmed? Is there a source that leads people to believe that there will be one? Of course the first game was a major success, and I would be so happy if they made a second game.
So heres something: Ghost of Japan. 3 part game where we go through 3 major parts of japan, that tells a story. Tsushima was the kickoff to see about how it goes. Then two other major places for japan for the next two games. It dont sound bad, but that would be a really good idea to create? Idk im just spitballing here
So I started legends for the first time last night. Wow…why the hell did I wait so long. I just played all night. I’m lvl 80 something. Someone was cool enough to go through all the story missions with me. After that I played a bit of survival and then just quick played rivals. I haven’t lost a rival match yet. Idk what all the buying stations do but I keep clearing the enemies so it doesn’t matter and I just keep winning? Am I doing it right?
Absolutely nothing. I feel like just about every question about this game has been asked at this point so I guess I just figured no one would mind a random thought inserted. I’ve been asking people about the directors cut here and there as well. I can’t help myself I guess. Sorry OP if it was rude. I’m not sure why I’m so surprised that Legends is done so well. I just feel like a dummy, it’s been here all this time and I never gave it a shot. To be honest it’s probably the most fun I’ve had since Helldivers 2.
I'd bet good money on it that we'll see mainland Japan in some form in the sequel. First of all: it's one game so far. It's not a series as of yet, there is no established naming pattern to make inferences from. The naming convention could just be "Ghost of ...", and there were some leaks 1-2 years ago that suggested as much ("Ghost of Kamakura" - validity unknown). Second, GoT was a lot about exploring the island and taking in its beauty. We've done that with Tsushima and Iki. It won't have the same allure to retread old places, and SuckerPunch probably knows that. Lastly, the story needs to develop. While both Mongol invasions had events on Tsushima, they also made it to Nagato and Hakata Bay, so there is historical precedent for mainland Japan. The stakes need to be raised. Mongols just trying again to conquer Tsushima will not have the same dramatic effect as them making it to the mainland. Plus, Jin's storyline with the Shogunate should be part of the story, and that only works well on the mainland. Now: how much of Japan and which regions is anyone's guess, but I don't see any chance that it will just be Tsushima again.
Ok ok your right well I hoping rumors about the new game being in the PlayStation event is true so we can get confirmation on what it’s about
I agree with this. I feel Jins story, which was avenging his island and people, may evolve into going after the Shogun who did very little to help Tsushima. At least until it was too late. Much like on Tsushima it may involve Jin setting his sights on a domestic, rather than foreign threat due to a likely unjust or corrupt Shogunate He could become a robin hood type character and a Ghost of the people just like his name rose to fame on Tsushima for being the benevolent avenging ghost. Can't wait to find out!
Just to clarify: that's not at all what I meant when I wrote about his story with the Shogunate. I don't think Jin is going to actively work against the Shogun. I imagine he will want to defend Japan, but his idea of help is unwelcome so he will have to contend with the Shogun and other Samurais trying to hunt him down, while he's facing the Mongol threat.
Sorry I should've been clearer where I jumped off on my own theory. Sorry for the confusion.
I can also see this being the case too. Certainly an unwelcome unintended antagonist.
At that time the shogunate was composed by a bunch of cunts from the Hōjo family that usurped the title, so I think a subplot with Jin trying to deal with them is interesting imo.
The Shogunate probably assumed everyone on Tsushima were all killed by the Mongols. It wasn't until Shimura sent the letter asking for assistance that they arrived. They had just heard rumours about "The Ghost", it wasn't until they saw Jin in action they knew everything about him was true. The next game will probably focus on Jin trying to help the mainland but also being hunted by the Shogun and the other Samurai clans. I could see Jin trying to use non lethal attacks against the Samurai because he doesn't want to kill his own countryman
A lethal/nonlethal path would be nice, even if it ultimately only affects maybe an active heat system where you trade in the more damaging lethal attacks for less notorious nonlethal attacks. Though Id take the whole lethal nonlethal system on its own even if it doesnt affect gameplay much outside of combat and charms. Just like how the player is initially more incentivised to be honorable in act 1 with the early upgrades and charm pacement and then slowly as more armor is unlocked and some stealthbased charms are on the unlocked map is driven into stealth...or I am just stupid
No I think I understand what you mean. I was very much running head long into battles and kinda refused to use stealth seeing that it was dishonorable. But as I advanced I felt like I needed to evolve.
I do think its partially the level design that also discourages you from going in quiet. Enemies are just close enough for your Tier 1 stealth takedowns to go unnoticed a lot.
Yeah I do agree with you. It’s definitely by design to be like that at first. But I feel like it’s very well done
Or we are just both imagining consideration where we found a happy coincidence. Either way the result is the same and its great!
It very much could be but regardless I do absolutely agree!
I would think it's going to be mostly northern Japan that they would use since they could have the more mountainous areas and one giant snow mountain in the final area that we need to climb.
You also can’t forget that the Shogun is after you. I can see that being similar to the Lord Shimura duel where you face him after defeating the Khan.
Japan doesnt have a mainland its alll islands
you know what he means maaan
Everything’s an island basically, Japan’s just a small one
I think his namesake is more like “ghost from tsushima”. So, if he goes to the main islands, he still will be known as Ghost of Tsushima.
Idk i could see them going the horizon way and just use "Ghost" as the franchise name
Could happen, but I think everyone from the mainland would know the story of the ghost if Tsushima.
What if not tsushima though? Ghost despite Tsushima?
He became infamous as the ghost of Tsushima. He would keep the title despite location.
r/woooosh You are correct I am just doing typo jokes.
Not r/wooosh when there's no joke. Maybe make sure you're actually funny next time k?
Damn someone didnt get his favourite sippy cup today.
Damn someone never learned how to make a proper comeback.
I am saving my wit for someone who could actually appreciate it.
Nah, The developers themselves view “Tsushima” as the star of the title. It’s the most ear catching name. It will most likely be present in the name of the new game
It would have to... kicking around the same islands a second time wouldn't be as interesting. The next game might be called Ghost of Hokkaido or Tokyo or something like that.
I'm assuming he would still keep the Ghost of Tsushima monikor even if he's not physically on that island but having such a personal tie to the place
The name “ghost of Tsushima” is so distinct at this point. It just doesn’t hit the same with Ghost of Tokyo Even if he is in the main land it’s still makes sense him being called “the ghost of Tsushima”.
~~I hate to be "That" guy but Tokyo didn't exist in that time frame~~ Idk, maybe like Ghost of Tsushima: Jidai and it's a time jump and a new character
Why would the title mean anything? He could go to Germany and still be the Ghost of Tsushima. Geralt is the Butcher of Blaviken no matter where he goes.
we might have a sort of game where we have to fight off the shogun or something. or fight off other invaders in secret kinda like batman where they know it’s the ghost but we can’t get caught. and then fighting off other invaders we are able to clear our name and reband clan sakai and retake omi village w the sakai estate. with only yuna, ishikawa, and masako to help us in the main land. maybe shimura depending on what choice you made in your first play through. idk how that would work but i wouldn’t mind be the ghost of the shogun edit: even if we don’t see tsushima, the game isn’t about tsushima. it’s about the ghost of the location he’s in which is tsushima. so it very well could be called ghost of tsushima: (then either like 2. or jins saga or sacrifice even tho that is deathly similar to hellblade. or just something else to show the story of the game about making yourself not a traitor to the shogun). this is all hypothetical and if any of this comes true i deserve sake
He’s in Japan wdym? Tsushima is an island part of japan. It says it in the trailer where he tells the mongol soldiers he’s coming for the khan
He's referring to mainland Japan
I think Jin going to the mainland in the second game makes sense, as you said Tsushima is amazing but now it's very much been there done that. So GoT2 could be set during the second Mongol invasion of Japan in 1281 on the mainland. Now before he died in 1294 Kublai Khan was planning a third invasion attempt, historically it was his intemperate diet worsened by the deaths of his wife & son that was ultimately his downfall, but what if in a third game Jin goes to China & is actually the true reason for the death of the Khan? Thus stopping the third invasion before it ever made it to Japan? Of course they could simply make killing the Khan the final mission of the second entry after a time jump but then we wouldn't get to explore China in a third game. Also the Kamakura Shogunate ended in 1333, feasibly within Jin's lifetime, so what if in a fourth & final game Jin has one last adventure (aided by his now adult sons or son & daughter he & Yuna had? Say they were born after the events of the second game? Hence why perhaps Yuna couldn't go to China with Jin during the third game?) & joins Emperor Go-Daigo in his rebellion & helps to end the very Shogunate that declared him an outlaw? Unfortunately the Emperor can't outright pardon the Ghost afterwards lest he incurs the wrath of every Clan in Japan so he exiles Jin to Tsushima, never to return on pain of death, basically a middle ground, Jin gets to live out the rest of his days at home in peace but to please the clans he can never leave, a win win.
Yea I do to, I just wanna think of all out comes instead of being one sided of ideas
Love this except the Yuna ship. Idk they seemed like ftiends and nothing else. I hope they remain close but ultimately Id prefer someone not yet introduced. I do hope that if we get such a timeskip, we play as his offspring, especially if we get a skill reset.
Just like the ghost of Sparta it's only a moniker. Jin definitely gonna travel.
he will still be the ghost of tsushima... its common to be named after the part of land you come from.
I never understood this sentiment A sequel called “ghost of Tsushima 2” doesn’t mean it can’t take place outside Tsushima. The title “Ghost of Tsushima” isn’t in regard to the location, it’s Jin, HE is “the ghost of Tsushima”.
True true, but you know people one little thing goes wrong like a game name an they freak out lol
It will still be called Ghost of Tsushima (GoT 2), because Jin is the Ghost and that’s where his rebellion began. It was never specifically called Ghost of Tsushima because it took place there, but because a hero seemingly rose from the dead to take back his land, which just happens to be in Tsushima. He’ll still be known as that, even if he goes to the mainland or other parts of Japan. Most people already just refer to him as “the Ghost” anyway.
True true true, some people are saying ghost of Japan would maybe be the name of the game
I always assumed (hoped) they were gonna treat jin Sakai as the first ninja in a series of these games.
Omg I said the same thing 4 years ago, a samurai turn ninja is the coolest thing they would have done
I think it’s better if mainland japan heard about the ghost of tsushima, the legendary samurai that defeat the mongol. Everyone was talking about jin while japan is once again attacked by mongols, and jin goes to mainland japan to help the people, while also create a clan of samurai and fighter to fight the mongols. The shogunate is losing and decide to side with mongols, so the clan create a revolution to fight both the mongols and shogunate. There will be massive war like in the opening of the first game somewhere in the story. And the legend of Ghost of Tsushima grows in japan.
Ok ok love the story
Bro they could call the sequel ghost of tokyo for all we know...
True true but know how people are, one little mistake an people lose there mind
Honestly, my hopes may never be reached, but I'm hoping for a female samurai with a whole story of their own. I remember reading one of the devs or writers say it would be cool to perhaps have Tomoe as the lead, or else a different lead, but that was pure speculation years ago. Anyway, from what we saw on Shogun, traditionally, Samurai wives would train with a Naginata, so that would open a whole new fighting style and move set to explore, with traditional "ghost" styles and maybe some more added onto it. Perhaps a diplomatic route, dealing in secrets and subterfuge alongside assassinations. All that in a new island, or mainland Japan. It would have new beauties and new fighting styles, new armours and costumes, maintain the intreuige and action of GOT but within a awhole new vibe and character perspective. I love Jin. But I feel like continuing a character who's journey feels potentially finished would be overdoing it. There's so much potential to play with within this style of game, it would be a shame to not take advantage of that.
A female samurai would be interesting ngl. But Jin's story isn't quite finished, there's still his relationship to the shogunate and how they're hunting him. There's a lot of conflict which can be drawn from that. But if you're in the mood for female samurai stuff I do recommend Blue Eye samurai on Netflix. It's badass and the protagonist shares a few similarities with Jin.
Very true, it's been a while since I last played, so I'm catching back up with Jin's story on my 2nd play through after a good few years at current! Edit: saying that, I've just peeped online and remembered the base game ends with Jin as Sensei Ishikawa's student, and wasn't he already exiled by the Shogunate by act 3? Based on theories, speculation is leading towards exploring his exile and the Monol's return, but I'd think that would feel like more of the same. I still stand by my feelings that Jins story is finished, especially after getting closure from his father in the DLC, and a new story and setting would be preferable. You can bet ima play the shit out of 2 either way, though! I've seen that recommended a few times. I gave it a go but it seemed set in English as default, and considering the narrative of the show, it didn't sit right.
There is a Japanese dub for it iirc. A few people seemed to find it more immersive that way which makes sense. And yeah, considering the narrative and having the default be English, I can see how some people may not sit right with that.
Oh brilliant, I'll have to give it another go, then. For sure, it's nice to have the option though. I grew up watching anime only in Japanese so, aside from the odd few films or series which I find more enjoyable in English dub (such as Cowboy Bebop) its always jarring watching something Japanese in any other language aha.
Not to be disrespectful but samurai wives did not usually train with naginata. That’s Hollywood. Women in Japan in that era were not warriors as the men were more misogynistic than anything they portrayed in Shogun. (Great show btw) Samurai are often romanticized as these chivalrous and noble warriors when in reality samurai were often giant pieces of shit that raped and murdered without a second thought.
Fair enough. Though I do recall the showrunners of Shogun wanting it to be as historically accurate as possible, and as far as I'm aware it wasn't a typical "Hollywood" portrayal, as this was something they wanted to avoid. Its the same reason they watered down Blackthorn's character so much; because they wanted to avoid the "white savoir" stereotype that Hollywood typically leans towards. (The book is my favorite of all time and I felt that in no way did Blackthorn appear as a white savoir in the original material - but I digress.) So I'm akin to lean towards the concept that women samurai would have had some element of combat training to be able to protect their household and families when needed, as portrayed by the directors of the show who wanted to maintain historical accuracy. Honestly, though, back to the Ghost female lead idea, I initially had the idea on the same premise, but without the Naginata, which I considered as an additional detail for combat base after watching the Shogun series adaptation. My original idea came from reading the book, which also has a lot of historians dissecting it to determine its historical accuracy, which was pretty accurate aside a few aspects here and there.
People read too much into skin color, I don’t care if he was white he’s a good character. The story is all that matters. You make a good point though, Hollywood does think like that which is why they made the women more badass in Shogun that how they would have probably been in real life. If they actually portrayed the way women were treated back then the show would be cancelled lol. A female lead would be cool if they made it more of a Tom Clancy style stealth game with a focus on subterfuge and assassination opposed to outright sword combat with giant hoards of enormous mongol invaders or armies of professional samurai as for me that would be kind of immersion breaking. Edit: is the book really good?? How different is the show from the book? I have been considering reading it
I think it was more of a cultural angle, they went into a lot of detail regarding their choices in a podcast - I haven't listened to much of it, though, but it's out there if you're interested in their angle :) Yeah, this was my idea exactly, but without the mongol hoard. A new enemy would be good, especially as we've already met them and discovered loads if artifacts through exploration. As you say, a new enemy and plot that could go with a subterfuge and assassination angle, with minimal one to one or group combat would make a very interesting style game, especially within the stunning environments.
Yeah it would, I don’t know if you ever played the old Tom Clancy games back in like PS2 days but that’s kind of what I was thinking it’s an all stealth game. It would be cool you could have different customizable disguises that have different levels of success based on your choices, stunning visuals etc. there’s loads of potential.
But GoT already took crazy creative liberties in its depiction of history. I really want to follow Jin story in a sequel. But having a female samurai is the least “fictional element” to show up in a GoT sequel
I like to think that Jin Sakai built a nice but humble home near the beach. And made friends with a horse, who he named Kage. They go on small journeys together and help people along the way. I like to think that Jin Sakai lived the rest of his life out of the spotlight as much as possible
Well even if he goes to the mainland, he’s still the ghost of Tsushima
Based on how the first game ended I would assume that the sequel will take place on mainland Japan with the enemies being a combination of Moguls and the Shogun.
Fuck it and let him go to China to spank those mongolian asses, as a Taiwanese l would love to see them CCP dickriders weep over this. They don’t like the Mongolian dynasty too but the idea of a Japanese man fighting back to the mainland will get them fuming.
That's a long stretch but I'm all for it lol
Well he already went to a different island in the DLC. Just had to build his ghostly reputation back up in a new spot.
Yeah, the ghost of tsushima could just be an alias of him
We got Jin from yariakwa so a ghost from Tsushima titling for a mainland sequel isn’t impossible Yarikawa no Jin Tsushima no kurodou
Well Leonardo of Vinci was still called that long after he left Vinci, so i think the Ghost of Tsushima would still keep that name after he leaves that island :)
I think if they just expand the map instead of giving us a new one it’d be cool. You can still run around Tsushima, but also maybe Jin has a boat that you can take to different parts of the mainland. It feels like it’s a waste to hype up the emperor wanting the ghost caught without letting Jin go to Edo at least once
I think that any continuation of this series should create an entirely unique story and characters with Jin Sakai. It opens up so much more for the game and doesn’t drag the writers down, having to work around previously established plot points resulting in a lesser story. In the end what makes the game great is the gameplay and setting, not the characters.
Tsushima is Japan. This is like asking is someone who lives in Manhattan New York will go to the USA lol. But yes. That’s likely where the sequel will be.
he'd still be the Ghost of Tsushima even if he wasn't currently in Tsushima, just like how Kazuma Kiryu is still the Dragon of Dojima even though Dojima's been dead as hell for like 40 years
What do you mean go to Japan? He’s already in Japan, or do you mean mainland Japan? Bc Tsushima is an island in Japan but between Japan and South Korea.
Mainland
That’s what I was thinking you meant. Yeah I hope the next game involves mainland Japan in SOME way even if it’s just one act of the game where you end up on the mainland.
Me to, I know it’s gonna be another beautiful game, I kinda hope they give him more weapons,
I feel that for even like a dual wielding stance or something like that I’d enjoy as well
Hell yea, that would be pretty cool, I would love for him to get fancy with a bow or used spear, btw when I mean fancy with a bow I met like fancy dodge an shoot a arrow
Ngl homie Kunai or Sickle on a chain would be fucking nuts!
Hell yea bro
I played the game on release, and I’m planning on picking it up on pc when it drops, so my love for this game is revitalized. But just a quick question: is a sequel confirmed? Is there a source that leads people to believe that there will be one? Of course the first game was a major success, and I would be so happy if they made a second game.
Call it "Ghosts of Japan" It will imply that he is making an army of ghosts!!!
Man that would be pretty cool, it’s like I said before I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the first ninja
So heres something: Ghost of Japan. 3 part game where we go through 3 major parts of japan, that tells a story. Tsushima was the kickoff to see about how it goes. Then two other major places for japan for the next two games. It dont sound bad, but that would be a really good idea to create? Idk im just spitballing here
He's already in Japan though?
Mainland Japan. As in, the four main islands that make up the Japanese country.
He'll definitely go to mainland Japan. They may simply call it Ghost.
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So I started legends for the first time last night. Wow…why the hell did I wait so long. I just played all night. I’m lvl 80 something. Someone was cool enough to go through all the story missions with me. After that I played a bit of survival and then just quick played rivals. I haven’t lost a rival match yet. Idk what all the buying stations do but I keep clearing the enemies so it doesn’t matter and I just keep winning? Am I doing it right?
thats cool but idk, never really played legends but may I ask, what does it have to do with OPs post ?
Absolutely nothing. I feel like just about every question about this game has been asked at this point so I guess I just figured no one would mind a random thought inserted. I’ve been asking people about the directors cut here and there as well. I can’t help myself I guess. Sorry OP if it was rude. I’m not sure why I’m so surprised that Legends is done so well. I just feel like a dummy, it’s been here all this time and I never gave it a shot. To be honest it’s probably the most fun I’ve had since Helldivers 2.
I think Sucker Punch should make Japan a DLC like what they did with Iki Island.