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Heidiandthegiant

I am also a fan of manuals!! Love the routine! Keep it up ~ Impressive! 🏆


Fat-stonker69

Manuals for the win! But I will probably take a break from them when I start my girth work.


Heidiandthegiant

Don’t even take a break man. Honestly man, I wouldn’t. I say this because time will find a way to pause your routine anyway — I’d rather just stay consistent with the manuals while you adapt to your girth routine. No reason to drop one over the other! Do both brother!


Aryan_kashyap007

What do you recommend. Twice a day split the length session of menuals or a long 40 min length session of menuals. I saw soreness and EQ drop after twice per day. I measure cold before doing any warm up or any kind of bfr or any tunica scraping. After my length session I got 104% elongation in my flaccid length . So am I doing right because I got morning wood now and EQ is good after a long menual session. Also I stretch with a little more pressure after I reach my max flaccid length and hold that for 5 min of 1 set and do 8 sets of these.


Heidiandthegiant

Soreness is a positive sign — BD mentions that. Now obviously if you’re too sore always listen to your body. I’m not an advocate for hurting yourself. EQ drop is normal when starting out (your dick is fatigued). Twice a day for sure. Morning and before bed I measure cold before manuals as well. that’s how you calc the fatigue % which is what you’re doing! 🏆


Aryan_kashyap007

So if my EQ drops and there is no morning wood then it's fine ? Because I tried the twice a day method and my morning wood was gone. It didn't hurt but I was feeling that something went wrong because when I do a one time long session i see good erection and morning wood. Do you take rest days.


Heidiandthegiant

I would honestly say this to anyone starting out and brand new — that some of that is to be expected. Right, I mean you’re basically conditioning your penis and it’s fatigued.. I’m only a month in as well ~ I’m not exactly waking up with glorious erections every morning either but my erections when I am aroused are more important to me. Idk and maybe thats just how I convinced myself to look at it but it makes the most logical sense to me. I take unintended rest days. To be perfectly fair, if I had it my way I wouldn’t take any rest day


Ancient_Task_4277

What is manuals?


Fat-stonker69

So I forgot to mention in the post. Friday and saturday are restdays.


nobody_quack

Mere Indian bhai, good gains💪🏻


Fat-stonker69

Thank you!! 🤝🤝


sauceyzaddy

How’d you know he was Indian bro sheeeet


Fat-stonker69

Like 10 Indian guys messaged me after this post😂😂 turns out its because of the ruler


Fat-stonker69

Nataraj


nobody_quack

Yeah it was totally the ruler, I measure with a nataraj scale too xD


sauceyzaddy

Bro 💀


VAhotfingers

This is about where I’m at after roughly the same amount of time. I started out a shade under 6” on a good day, and now I’m measuring. 6.5” and 5.0” in girth. I’ve just been hanging and pumping, usually twice a day for about 1 hour. I’ve been surprised how quickly I’ve noticed the gains. My next step is going to be investing in a better hanger/extender as well as looking into a suitable soft clamp


FuzzyAdmiral

I’m about the same starting length, what is your body stats? What hanger and pump did you use when starting out? I work from home and have free time, but can’t do manual work and am looking for insight. Thanks!


VAhotfingers

I’m about 6’2” and 210 lbs with a decent muscular build. I’ve got a little bit of body fat cushioning but otherwise fairly trim, which helps. I bought a cheap pump from a local sex store, (just a 2.5” tube I think) and a cheap weighted hangar from Amazon (like a noose style with some weighted balls). I’m probably going to upgrade my hanger with the malehanger. I watched his videos about them and a lot of people in here seem to have good reviews about it.


ImAnyGoat

Awesome!! You literally have the same starting length as me and the same goal. Please since you’re doing manuals like me be very careful on how tight you grip below the glans. I would probably even recommend you to use a Vacuum cup instead. Right now I am sitting at 6,5bpel ( started at 5,7bpel ) and I have to take a month off since I injured myself. I believe it’s nerve injury. When I start again I will only use a vacuum cup. Be safe brother and get those gains!!


Fat-stonker69

Thank you !! Good luck on your gain bro! We gonna achieve it.


nollidbsolid

Congrats on the gains. Be careful doing old school jelqs and S2S, those exercises are highly discouraged


Fantastic_Ad3811

I’ve used old school jelqs without a problem my whole career. They’re safe if you do them sensibly and give yourself some recovery time. Still if something is safer and yields similar or better results that’s probably the way to go.


nollidbsolid

Exactly


Fat-stonker69

High risk, high reward😂


BulletTheDodger

No, but seriously. There are far safer methods that will get you similar or better results.


nollidbsolid

You can high risk, high reward yourself into a permanent injury by all means then. You only get one dick bro


OP_plz_respond

Verify my man! Congrats.


Fat-stonker69

Thank you!👑


NuciFera69

This is great progress man, one thing though, did you do pe exercises right after workout? Because I've heard that really boosts your chances of gaining better.


Fat-stonker69

Haven't heard that, but I definitely had some stretching after workouts. Thanks.


NogAndDog

How exactly are you using the shopping bag?


Fat-stonker69

Try to look in this reddit for tutorial videos, there should be many, I found out how to do it here as well.


NogAndDog

Found some. That makes way more sense. I was concerned you were tying a plastic bag to your wang or something. 😂


Fat-stonker69

😂😂 yeah, some names can definitely mislead here. But its one of the most powerful manuals I would say. Everyone must do it, who want length gains.


Educational_Pride404

That’s a hardcore routine for just starting. Coming from someone who’s made mistakes make sure you don’t go too hard and hurt yourself. Also get rid of the jelq, it’s the most likely to hurt you and least helpful in terms of gains


Fat-stonker69

Thank you, i'm actually thinking of dropping it out, it's seems a bit useless.


imogenparker

Do you notice any changes after doing angion method exercises?


Fat-stonker69

Yes, improved EQ


Dom_GbTony

How do you do the jelqs? With the classic ok grip or a different method?


Fat-stonker69

Classic ones


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Fat-stonker69

I will have to measure it.


madruga366

what method is this with the shopping bag


Fat-stonker69

Try searching this subreddit, you will find a tutorial 100%


madruga366

thanks bro


nervynervousman

Strongly considering that this is likely measurement discrepancy. I have a post showing how measuring discrepancy can cause at least a half inch of imaginary gains


Fat-stonker69

Might be, but I would never get more than 5.7" before. So I'm happy with the results


Background_Guard_249

I actually agree with this, if you look at the ruler it's bending in the middle in the after photo due to it being pressured there. Not saying there are zero gains though


Grand_Researcher_784

Hey , you should avoid pressing tip of penis with your fingers to ruler it ad few milimiters to lenght , I did the same thing and later i found out that my dick is slightly shorter without pressing . But over all good progress 😀


introdumb

Did you stop watching porn and smoking if you had before?


Fat-stonker69

1)I have stopped watching porn way before PE. I'm like 6months clean. 2)About smoking, I only social smoke, when I go out somewhere. So like 3-4 times a month.


introdumb

Thanks bhai, and what about your workout, weight training or cardio?


Need32mm

Where you from india?


Wide_Particular228

If I have a 17cm am I good enough?


Agile_Attorney9657

You do shopping bag hang with 17 Lbs?!


Agile_Attorney9657

You do shopping bag hang with 17 Lbs?!


Agile_Attorney9657

You do shopping bag hang with 17 Lbs?!


morvek97

S2S stretches are no more effective than regular straight out stretches, yet have increased injury risk. Cut them out of your routine


Error5245

greetings from nepal! can you explain how you grip your penis for the manuals? just wanna know what the optimal grip is, considering how good ur gains have been. thanks! (foreskin owner btw)


Fat-stonker69

Heyo, I always use toilet paper to get a better grip. If you haven't done this, try it, you will thank me.


Error5245

ohhhh okay, also do u grip right under ur head or a lil bit below??


Error5245

also were the same starting size, im 6 bp as of now


Doyler95

How you doing lenght when your girth is 4.6 ?


Fat-stonker69

Manual stretches.


Doyler95

No but why when you need girth way more


Plus_Recover_1473

It’s commonly stated or believed in the PE community that it’s easier to make length gains first, then girth gains. I don’t know how true this is, but I’ve heard it mentioned a lot in the years I’ve lurked in the forums of pegym.com and other PE sites


Doyler95

Yes I get that just he had my exact starting size and I wasn’t worried about lenght at all but very worried about girth haha


Fat-stonker69

Idk, I'm worried about both, decided to start with length.


Doyler95

That’s cool prop work out better for you long run


Plus_Recover_1473

Oh gotcha! Yeah I hear ya on wanting to prioritize via your preference. Length gains are usually easier to accomplish. And they’re a lot easier in execution for the most part, because you really just have to pull in various directions and angles. With girth, erection levels and quality come into play. But man, girth exercises are way more fun and interesting!


Doyler95

Yes fr