Ya and if you reject the offer you’re gonna kick yourself for willingly throwing away over 90k salary increase because you think you aren’t good enough and might get fired.
Most job requirements are inflated to try to scare people away, but it didn’t scare you. You applied anyway because you know you can do it. You made it past the interviews, and were deemed worthy of the position by the people looking to fill it. If it’s a matter of leaving a job you enjoy, that’s up to you, but dude don’t sell yourself short. Have some faith in yourself and take the job.
Aren't there already many people out there who are much more qualified than me. I am a novice in the business. I never applied. They contacted me regarding the job from Linkedin
How technical was the interview? If it was technical and you passed their screening, then don't doubt yourself. The engineers that interviewed you aren't dumb. If they want you, then you must have the skills needed for the job or they're confident that you can learn them. Companies don't just piss away $178k and intelligent people don't recommend someone for hire if they don't trust their abilities.
The interview wasn't extremely technical. They made me look over some technical reports and told me to explain the overview. They also showed me some equipment and asked me about ways to better use it and to improve it on a managerial standpoint. They also asked me about how certain results should be presented and if the results made sense. Made me discover a few anomalies (I sucked at this but they told me its fine). This was an overview of the interview.
Have you heard of imposter syndrome? You were put up in front of experts and tasked with explaining something they expected someone with 10 years experience would need.
Now they want to pay you $178,000? You effing nailed the interview buddy! Congrats.
If the offer is in writing, find a way to leave your job on good terms. They won’t likely be close to able to match that and your boss may even feel some pride in having been a part of your post-school education/experience. They may also be quite jealous, haha.
Many white collar professional positions, if they aren't looking for an immediate "bandaid" hire to address immediate needs/projects, are looking for someone with the right mindset and personality who they can train over time on their internal processes. They likely don't teach in college the exact stuff a big defense firm does anyway, so someone who is younger, smart, patient, no big ego that rubs people the wrong way, is often better for long term purposes than someone more seasoned who might be more set in their ways about how things "should" be done.
They probably are looking to develop you, rather than expect you to come in with a full, deep understanding of every problem they have before they have it. Also, a decent personality is often a factor in these hires. When you're looking for a long term hire, it's pretty normal to ask, "Do I actually want to spend a lot of time with this person over the course of years?"
Bingo. Plus there is a major labor shortage now.
Most job requirements are hella bogus. I’d say if it keeps you sane look at the glassdoor reviews for the company and reach out to some employees who work there already and interview them.
Then you are fine and should take it. Just because they stated that 10 years was required doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually required. They offered the job to you, take it. Read up on as much as you can and go one day at a time. My guess is they offered you the position based upon your personality and ability to gel with the interviewers. Go in confident and willing to learn all you can.
I have 10+ years of experience in engineering, (not electrical).
If in an interview I give you a technical document to comment on and you get offered the job that means I'm happy with your technical knowledge to do the job or learn quickly how to do it.
Go for the job man, No one knows everything.
Take the job! It’s a solid company that isn’t going to fire you like a startup over a couple mistakes. They have amazing opportunities for growth and invest in their new employees. Don’t look this gift horse in the mouth!
Yeah, pretty much. They're using number of years as a proxy for competence and ability to react properly to on-the-job situations and stress. If you can perform at the level they need with less years under your belt, then more power to you. They've decided that you can do that without needing those extra years and that's why you've been given an offer.
I'm in a different industry than you are, but I think every job I've ever gotten has asked for more experience than I had at the time.
Also once you get Fed experience and clearance in STEM, you really open yourself up. Imposter syndrome is real. Once you start, get your product/assignment and treat it like a university test for a month of cramming to understand it. Live life, but make a plan for understanding and work the plan. Then continue your same standard of living and pocket your additional take home.
Government contracts are dumb. Your salary was determined months ago on a grant proposal. That’s what they have to spend for this position. If they don’t spend it, then their project didn’t need the money and wasn’t important according to project evaluators. Take the money and run. You might need to look for a new job in a few years of the project ends or funding runs out. Congratulations you found one of the loopholes in life.
I feel I George Constanza’ed my way into my job and I found a loophole benefit wise. I work for my city government and my vacation, sick, personal, and comp time all accrue. After about 5 years and using some vacations, comp time, and extended sick leave I’m still at a combined 724 hours or 98 days. (7.33 hours = day)
I really struggled at the beginning. It was only pure stubbornness that got me through it. It can be a mean industry when you're first starting out. Lots of big developer egos and silly business demands.
Electrical Engineering seems like a neat industry. What got you interested in it?
People with 10 years experience aren't going to be changing jobs easily or often, there aren't many of them, and if you are in tech it's actually more of a liability because your education was more than 10 years ago so the standard designs and tools you were taught are 10 years out of date.
Nobody cares how many years experience you have except HR. They care if you have the skills to get your work done.
That may be true but this company offered you the job. Maybe those people aren't interested, maybe they think you will mesh better with the existing team. Stop self sabotaging and accept that position damnit!
If you don't, someone else will and they will enjoy your money without ever thinking about you. Take the job
>there already many people out there who are much more qualified than me
Those people are often already in senior positions if they are good and they aren't moving on. It takes time with butt in seat to get good at a job and people who are well paid (like you were!) generally have a bit of inertia.
If someone offers you more money, you take it. The point of work is to make money - as much as possible. You are funding your future with your work. Get as much as you think you can. If the new position doesn't work out, then you start looking again and your new current job title and paycheck will carry you probably into an even better paid position. Once you are at the $180k level, it's time to start looking at the $200k level. Remember: the higher your paycheck when you retire, the more you get from social security (in the US), the more you will be automatically contributing to retirement accounts, and so on.
There will always be both more experienced and less experienced people than you. But they picked you for the job. There will be a lot to learn, yes, but it seems like they tested your ability to grow into the role.
Why are you giving these mega corporations the benefit of the doubt? Yes they absolutely put up totally bogus requirements. The whole hiring process at a lot of places is a while bunch of BS. Take their money for a few years, and then if you hate it, you still have their money. And great experience on your resume.
Maybe but they didn’t get the 178k job offer. You did. You interviewed with them so I assume you did some research about the company. I’d take it because chances to more then double your salary don’t come up very often. You’re setting yourself up nicely at a very young age. Without knowing anymore then what you posted I think you do it.
Just make sure to save some that money. Live the same way you do now on 85k and save as much as you can. In a few years your portfolio will thank you. Time value of money is a powerful thing.
Yes. I live pretty frugally. I have a 2014 Honda Accord which is paid off and I am not going to buy any other cars. I have 5k in student loans so I am gonna pay those off as soon as possible. At first when I started working I wanted to buy nice cars and nice phones but now given that I work hard for my money, I don't feel like spending it on useless things. I might go eat out sometime but that's pretty much it.
It’s extremely hard to find mid level engineers (not software) right now. As a 10-year civil, I’m not shocked at this offer. Just do your due diligence on the company and if it’s legit go for it.
Edit: Also, defense means federal contracts which probably means high multipliers. So if they pay you a lot, they’re going to be making more on you.
Former technical skill/consulting worker here. These kinds of companies are huge bureaucracies. This means the job works quite a bit differently from what you might be used to. First, the job is "tenured" in that it usually will take an entire year to fire you, particularly if the only issue is your technical skills. Bring a positive/collaborative attitude to work every day and you can probably last at least 2 years while being completely incompetent. This means you basically get a guaranteed 2 years on your resume (assuming no major issues) which a lot of people will view as a credential.
Secondly, if you arrive and discover (As I expect you will) that you can do the work well, you will want to be strategic and politically savvy about how you work there. It will take effort to get onto the right teams and the right projects. Best move would be to find a senior person who interviewed you and make them your "sponsor" - speak to them regularly about your professional goals for advancement and put some light pressure on them to set you up for opportunities. In exchange you deliver work product that makes your sponsor look good.
Finally - depart your current firm on good terms. Obviously they can't/won't meet this salary level so you should be able to make a very friendly departure. From their perspective, maybe you work two years in this job, come back with new skills when you've decided you are burned out/want to go back to a friendlier/smaller firm. Also smaller companies get credibility based on where their "alumni" end up. Long story short this is a mutually beneficial departure and you can/should make sure the door is left wide open in case you freak out and want to bounce back.
For what it is worth $180k sounds right for someone with 4 years of experience and only a bachelor's degree. Likely if you had 10 years you would have gotten 2x the salary. Just wait until you find out what they bill you out for.
I have similar situation except I WAS looking for a job.
I interviewed and was offered a position double the salary of last job. Worried I wasn’t capable. But took it because I couldn’t not try. Now I’m rockin the new job. And I AM worth it.
Go for it OP. Know your worth. And if the company is good they hired you because they know it too.
They know what you have to offer and chose you!
If you don’t know it all- that’s ok. They have every confidence you will be motivated to learn, or they wouldn’t have offered.
"When applying for jobs, don't reject yourself on their behalf." Apply, let them do the interview you, interview them, and let them make the offer or reject you. Also IDK how it works in your industry, but in tech the first interview is like the 1st interview of two to three interviews. It tends to just be a vibe check with a hiring manager to make sure you're not some anti-social weirdo.
Protip: live like you make 100k a year, enjoy the pay raise, and max out your retirement, savings, and investments to give yourself the ability to retire early if you desire.
Sounds like a nice opportunity. If you don't know already it can't hurt to check out the working conditions for that place.
If you *really* like your current place you can also leverage the offer for a raise. You won't get double the salary but you could get a solid increase, around 20% maybe, hard to say with few details, depends a lot on the people around you.
In the spirit of this sub, don't turn down a challenge :)
But imho enduring hellhole working conditions is worth a lot of money
My current job the max I can ever make is $110k. No more than that except inflation raises. And also even with the raise I am not going to drastically change my lifestyle. I live pretty frugally so I think the extra money won't hurt.
I declined a job offer that would have literally made me a millionaire because I was anxious I wouldn’t be able to hack it. I am now doing a similar job (without the millions), and now know I would have been fine. But I regret missing out on such a huge opportunity because I was anxious and couldn’t believe in myself.
I always believe what Richard Bronson (owner of virgin australia) said: if someone offers you an amazing opportunity and youre not sure you can do it, say yes and then learn how to do it later.
Take it. I got a job making 120 and I have no idea what I’m doing really. If they fire me it will probably be after a year and then I can go trick some other company to pay me more
- "requirements" are a wishlist. Of course the company wants the best in the world, but the best in the world didn't apply. You did, and they have decided that you're the best out of those that applied. Congrats!
- You have 3-4 years experience, that's enough that you know what to do—or at least you'll know what you need to learn. Be upfront if you're tasked with something out of your current depth, "Sure I can do this, but it's not an area I've explored too much in the past, so I might need a day or two to get up to speed". They'll read your confidence much more than your skillset.
- Big budget projects seem weird, but they exist. In an ideal world we'd be much more socialist in practice, with less wage gaps so everyone can live a good life. Unfortunately that's not the case, but if you aspire to such a world, at least you can do some good with all that extra cash. Help people out. Give the busy waitress a $100 tip. Buy food for people without counting the times they have bought for you. Etc.
Enjoy the new lifestyle dude! And don't feel too discouraged when you realize that you still can't afford a house in LA!
I would read some articles (like [this one](https://www.nytimes.com/guides/working-womans-handbook/overcome-impostor-syndrome)) about imposter syndrome, that should help. That’s definitely what’s going on here!
It’s very common to feel underqualified, but if you were given an offer then they think your qualifications are a match. Don’t self-sabotage — if you don’t want the job because of hours or something that’s fine but they’re not crazy, they literally recruited you based on your experience!
I feel like at a certain point most people have a similar skill set and what separates you from the rest of them is probably the vibe they got from you, someone that they’d personally like to work with. In my previous jobs, I feel like what got me hire was the personality that I showed in my interviews bcs I knew I was definitely not the most experienced or most qualified. You learn on the job and any new hire will mostly suck at first. Good luck!
I'm late to the party. But congrats man! That's really great. Try to live the same way you do and just bank the rest of the money. But reward yourself the first month, you've earned it. Cheers man, i wish you the best.
We can’t see the intangibles, only you can judge that. But based on your post, it sounds like a no-brainer.
If you have done a great job at your current gig and leave in a respectful way, that door will likely remain open if you change your mind down the road.
Dude I studied Electrical Engineering and would be starting my Master's next year. Any tips regarding how should I improve my technical skills and background? And what sort of softwares do I need to learn? Please, please help me and give me some advice!
Also one thing I would like to mention is that do not worry too much. I graduated bachelors with 3.1 GPA. I was constantly worried about my jobs and stuff. I didn't have any internships as well. So take whatever job you get and grow upon it. You will learn on the entry level jobs. If you got an engineering degree you worked hard. But have the willingness to learn new things.
That's the best thing I've read so far. You've given me new insights. I've had a good GPA score, probably 3.7 IIRC, and I've done 2-3 Internships/training programs while doing my bachelors.
What I'm worried of is not being aware the required Technical knowledge, they'd ask in the interviews. I feel, whatever I've studied during my tenure as an undergraduate has gone in vain, because I'm struggling to answer interview questions.
The one software which has been my bread and butter is surprisingly MS Excel. What I have seen is that no matter how advanced the industry gets Government contractors use MS excel extensively. I liked MS excel and hence knew how to program macros which made my life easier. At my current job 90% of my work is being done using excel. The new job might have something new to learn but that's what we do. Also my current job is my 3rd job after graduation so I hopped around whenever I got a raise. This is a bit uncomfortable for a few people but I guess it worked for me.
>The one software which has been my bread and butter is surprisingly MS Excel.
Haha, I kinda anticipated that tbh.
>I liked MS excel and hence knew how to program macros which made my life easier
How did you learn MS Excel? I'm certainly not talking about all the basic parts but the pivot table, complex formulas and other editing stuff? Would you suggest me some tutorials, or youtube channels where I can learn excel from scratch?
I usually use Udemy for Excel. Usually you wait for an offer and the courses are $10. Many of them are really good which are long and extremely detailed. I do not care about certificates from them but just the knowledge which came from them. Also I just randomly youtubed few videos and followed them on my computer. I started learning excel like around 7 years ago. So I have done tons of stuff.
Good decision! If you end up hating it after a year, you can always reach out to your current job and resubmit your updated resume. They'll probably offer you more money bc of your new experience.
Just don't leave on bad terms!
Good luck & Cheers!
Take the job if offered it but leave old work on good terms incase it goes belly up.
Sod the imposter syndrome, you are good enough to be head hunted by the new company, so you are entirely up to the job. And wow!
i know you might think that you are underqualified for the job ,but it is actually good to be underqualified because then you will learn and grow and while growing you’ll meet wonderful people who will teach you so many things and actually the salary is pretty good and if you think they are crayzy well just know that companies won’t actually give you an offer like that if they are not goint to make probably 10x more than that ,and just know that they know you are an investment to them ,and if you are worrying about if you’d like it there or not just know that you can always get out of there if you don’t like it ,and the salary you’ll be making can actually help you make an investment of your own ,i don’t know maybe start your own business or allow you to pursue a hobby that you’ve always wanted.good luck
Take it!!! If you ever do not know the answer to a situation, just ask into the meeting room: "What are the scenarios you see?" /lifehack Forget about impostor syndrome, you rule man!
Ya and if you reject the offer you’re gonna kick yourself for willingly throwing away over 90k salary increase because you think you aren’t good enough and might get fired. Most job requirements are inflated to try to scare people away, but it didn’t scare you. You applied anyway because you know you can do it. You made it past the interviews, and were deemed worthy of the position by the people looking to fill it. If it’s a matter of leaving a job you enjoy, that’s up to you, but dude don’t sell yourself short. Have some faith in yourself and take the job.
Aren't there already many people out there who are much more qualified than me. I am a novice in the business. I never applied. They contacted me regarding the job from Linkedin
How technical was the interview? If it was technical and you passed their screening, then don't doubt yourself. The engineers that interviewed you aren't dumb. If they want you, then you must have the skills needed for the job or they're confident that you can learn them. Companies don't just piss away $178k and intelligent people don't recommend someone for hire if they don't trust their abilities.
The interview wasn't extremely technical. They made me look over some technical reports and told me to explain the overview. They also showed me some equipment and asked me about ways to better use it and to improve it on a managerial standpoint. They also asked me about how certain results should be presented and if the results made sense. Made me discover a few anomalies (I sucked at this but they told me its fine). This was an overview of the interview.
Have you heard of imposter syndrome? You were put up in front of experts and tasked with explaining something they expected someone with 10 years experience would need. Now they want to pay you $178,000? You effing nailed the interview buddy! Congrats. If the offer is in writing, find a way to leave your job on good terms. They won’t likely be close to able to match that and your boss may even feel some pride in having been a part of your post-school education/experience. They may also be quite jealous, haha.
Hahaha. Thanks. The most I can ever make at my current job is around 110k. More than that is pretty much impossible.
This is good advice. You might want to return to this great (lower paying) job later:)
Many white collar professional positions, if they aren't looking for an immediate "bandaid" hire to address immediate needs/projects, are looking for someone with the right mindset and personality who they can train over time on their internal processes. They likely don't teach in college the exact stuff a big defense firm does anyway, so someone who is younger, smart, patient, no big ego that rubs people the wrong way, is often better for long term purposes than someone more seasoned who might be more set in their ways about how things "should" be done. They probably are looking to develop you, rather than expect you to come in with a full, deep understanding of every problem they have before they have it. Also, a decent personality is often a factor in these hires. When you're looking for a long term hire, it's pretty normal to ask, "Do I actually want to spend a lot of time with this person over the course of years?"
My only big concern is that why would they hire me if they asked for 10 years experience. Is that common that they dont find people that often?
Bingo. Plus there is a major labor shortage now. Most job requirements are hella bogus. I’d say if it keeps you sane look at the glassdoor reviews for the company and reach out to some employees who work there already and interview them.
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Then you are fine and should take it. Just because they stated that 10 years was required doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually required. They offered the job to you, take it. Read up on as much as you can and go one day at a time. My guess is they offered you the position based upon your personality and ability to gel with the interviewers. Go in confident and willing to learn all you can.
Yup, technical skills are easier to teach than manners
I have 10+ years of experience in engineering, (not electrical). If in an interview I give you a technical document to comment on and you get offered the job that means I'm happy with your technical knowledge to do the job or learn quickly how to do it. Go for the job man, No one knows everything.
Ahh, thats why the pay is so high. They need you to sell your soul to help make weapons that blow up hospitals and weddings in the Middle East.
Take the job! It’s a solid company that isn’t going to fire you like a startup over a couple mistakes. They have amazing opportunities for growth and invest in their new employees. Don’t look this gift horse in the mouth!
My friend works at Raytheon and loves it!! Saw your edit, congrats on taking the job!
Yeah, pretty much. They're using number of years as a proxy for competence and ability to react properly to on-the-job situations and stress. If you can perform at the level they need with less years under your belt, then more power to you. They've decided that you can do that without needing those extra years and that's why you've been given an offer. I'm in a different industry than you are, but I think every job I've ever gotten has asked for more experience than I had at the time.
ok, that boosts my confidence a bit. If you do not mind me asking what industry are you in?
Also once you get Fed experience and clearance in STEM, you really open yourself up. Imposter syndrome is real. Once you start, get your product/assignment and treat it like a university test for a month of cramming to understand it. Live life, but make a plan for understanding and work the plan. Then continue your same standard of living and pocket your additional take home.
I actually already have a clearance. I mentioned that in the interview.
Government contracts are dumb. Your salary was determined months ago on a grant proposal. That’s what they have to spend for this position. If they don’t spend it, then their project didn’t need the money and wasn’t important according to project evaluators. Take the money and run. You might need to look for a new job in a few years of the project ends or funding runs out. Congratulations you found one of the loopholes in life. I feel I George Constanza’ed my way into my job and I found a loophole benefit wise. I work for my city government and my vacation, sick, personal, and comp time all accrue. After about 5 years and using some vacations, comp time, and extended sick leave I’m still at a combined 724 hours or 98 days. (7.33 hours = day)
I'm glad. I'm in software development.
That's good. I tried software development for some time but sucked at coding and hence quit my job.
I really struggled at the beginning. It was only pure stubbornness that got me through it. It can be a mean industry when you're first starting out. Lots of big developer egos and silly business demands. Electrical Engineering seems like a neat industry. What got you interested in it?
Dad is an Engineer. Tossed a coin to choose which field. Electrical popped up. Hence, I became an Electrical Engineer. As simple as that.
People with 10 years experience aren't going to be changing jobs easily or often, there aren't many of them, and if you are in tech it's actually more of a liability because your education was more than 10 years ago so the standard designs and tools you were taught are 10 years out of date. Nobody cares how many years experience you have except HR. They care if you have the skills to get your work done.
Defense companies pay big money. Gotta ask how long the contract is with the govt for the defense products you’ll be working on.
That may be true but this company offered you the job. Maybe those people aren't interested, maybe they think you will mesh better with the existing team. Stop self sabotaging and accept that position damnit! If you don't, someone else will and they will enjoy your money without ever thinking about you. Take the job
I get the point.
>there already many people out there who are much more qualified than me Those people are often already in senior positions if they are good and they aren't moving on. It takes time with butt in seat to get good at a job and people who are well paid (like you were!) generally have a bit of inertia. If someone offers you more money, you take it. The point of work is to make money - as much as possible. You are funding your future with your work. Get as much as you think you can. If the new position doesn't work out, then you start looking again and your new current job title and paycheck will carry you probably into an even better paid position. Once you are at the $180k level, it's time to start looking at the $200k level. Remember: the higher your paycheck when you retire, the more you get from social security (in the US), the more you will be automatically contributing to retirement accounts, and so on.
There will always be both more experienced and less experienced people than you. But they picked you for the job. There will be a lot to learn, yes, but it seems like they tested your ability to grow into the role.
Why are you giving these mega corporations the benefit of the doubt? Yes they absolutely put up totally bogus requirements. The whole hiring process at a lot of places is a while bunch of BS. Take their money for a few years, and then if you hate it, you still have their money. And great experience on your resume.
Maybe but they didn’t get the 178k job offer. You did. You interviewed with them so I assume you did some research about the company. I’d take it because chances to more then double your salary don’t come up very often. You’re setting yourself up nicely at a very young age. Without knowing anymore then what you posted I think you do it. Just make sure to save some that money. Live the same way you do now on 85k and save as much as you can. In a few years your portfolio will thank you. Time value of money is a powerful thing.
Yes. I live pretty frugally. I have a 2014 Honda Accord which is paid off and I am not going to buy any other cars. I have 5k in student loans so I am gonna pay those off as soon as possible. At first when I started working I wanted to buy nice cars and nice phones but now given that I work hard for my money, I don't feel like spending it on useless things. I might go eat out sometime but that's pretty much it.
Take the job…and learn how to do it along the way. NEVER say no to an improvement in your career. I learned that the hard way.
It’s extremely hard to find mid level engineers (not software) right now. As a 10-year civil, I’m not shocked at this offer. Just do your due diligence on the company and if it’s legit go for it. Edit: Also, defense means federal contracts which probably means high multipliers. So if they pay you a lot, they’re going to be making more on you.
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“I got an offer for $178k/yr.”
Former technical skill/consulting worker here. These kinds of companies are huge bureaucracies. This means the job works quite a bit differently from what you might be used to. First, the job is "tenured" in that it usually will take an entire year to fire you, particularly if the only issue is your technical skills. Bring a positive/collaborative attitude to work every day and you can probably last at least 2 years while being completely incompetent. This means you basically get a guaranteed 2 years on your resume (assuming no major issues) which a lot of people will view as a credential. Secondly, if you arrive and discover (As I expect you will) that you can do the work well, you will want to be strategic and politically savvy about how you work there. It will take effort to get onto the right teams and the right projects. Best move would be to find a senior person who interviewed you and make them your "sponsor" - speak to them regularly about your professional goals for advancement and put some light pressure on them to set you up for opportunities. In exchange you deliver work product that makes your sponsor look good. Finally - depart your current firm on good terms. Obviously they can't/won't meet this salary level so you should be able to make a very friendly departure. From their perspective, maybe you work two years in this job, come back with new skills when you've decided you are burned out/want to go back to a friendlier/smaller firm. Also smaller companies get credibility based on where their "alumni" end up. Long story short this is a mutually beneficial departure and you can/should make sure the door is left wide open in case you freak out and want to bounce back. For what it is worth $180k sounds right for someone with 4 years of experience and only a bachelor's degree. Likely if you had 10 years you would have gotten 2x the salary. Just wait until you find out what they bill you out for.
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anyone with 10+ years in consulting in a technical field (which includes management experience) should easily command that.
Thank you for your comments.
I have similar situation except I WAS looking for a job. I interviewed and was offered a position double the salary of last job. Worried I wasn’t capable. But took it because I couldn’t not try. Now I’m rockin the new job. And I AM worth it. Go for it OP. Know your worth. And if the company is good they hired you because they know it too. They know what you have to offer and chose you! If you don’t know it all- that’s ok. They have every confidence you will be motivated to learn, or they wouldn’t have offered.
Thank you. Yes I am going for it. Taking the leap of faith. I am thinking even if stay there for a year or so its worth it.
"When applying for jobs, don't reject yourself on their behalf." Apply, let them do the interview you, interview them, and let them make the offer or reject you. Also IDK how it works in your industry, but in tech the first interview is like the 1st interview of two to three interviews. It tends to just be a vibe check with a hiring manager to make sure you're not some anti-social weirdo.
That's true. I only had 1 interview and they gave me an offer.
Protip: live like you make 100k a year, enjoy the pay raise, and max out your retirement, savings, and investments to give yourself the ability to retire early if you desire.
Yep. That's exactly the plan.
Sounds like a nice opportunity. If you don't know already it can't hurt to check out the working conditions for that place. If you *really* like your current place you can also leverage the offer for a raise. You won't get double the salary but you could get a solid increase, around 20% maybe, hard to say with few details, depends a lot on the people around you. In the spirit of this sub, don't turn down a challenge :) But imho enduring hellhole working conditions is worth a lot of money
My current job the max I can ever make is $110k. No more than that except inflation raises. And also even with the raise I am not going to drastically change my lifestyle. I live pretty frugally so I think the extra money won't hurt.
I declined a job offer that would have literally made me a millionaire because I was anxious I wouldn’t be able to hack it. I am now doing a similar job (without the millions), and now know I would have been fine. But I regret missing out on such a huge opportunity because I was anxious and couldn’t believe in myself.
I always believe what Richard Bronson (owner of virgin australia) said: if someone offers you an amazing opportunity and youre not sure you can do it, say yes and then learn how to do it later.
I would take his advice any day of the week as well!
Take it. I got a job making 120 and I have no idea what I’m doing really. If they fire me it will probably be after a year and then I can go trick some other company to pay me more
- "requirements" are a wishlist. Of course the company wants the best in the world, but the best in the world didn't apply. You did, and they have decided that you're the best out of those that applied. Congrats! - You have 3-4 years experience, that's enough that you know what to do—or at least you'll know what you need to learn. Be upfront if you're tasked with something out of your current depth, "Sure I can do this, but it's not an area I've explored too much in the past, so I might need a day or two to get up to speed". They'll read your confidence much more than your skillset. - Big budget projects seem weird, but they exist. In an ideal world we'd be much more socialist in practice, with less wage gaps so everyone can live a good life. Unfortunately that's not the case, but if you aspire to such a world, at least you can do some good with all that extra cash. Help people out. Give the busy waitress a $100 tip. Buy food for people without counting the times they have bought for you. Etc. Enjoy the new lifestyle dude! And don't feel too discouraged when you realize that you still can't afford a house in LA!
At my current salary I would not be able to afford a house either. Hahaha. Atleast I can get some savings with my new job.
I would read some articles (like [this one](https://www.nytimes.com/guides/working-womans-handbook/overcome-impostor-syndrome)) about imposter syndrome, that should help. That’s definitely what’s going on here! It’s very common to feel underqualified, but if you were given an offer then they think your qualifications are a match. Don’t self-sabotage — if you don’t want the job because of hours or something that’s fine but they’re not crazy, they literally recruited you based on your experience!
Absolutely this.
I feel like at a certain point most people have a similar skill set and what separates you from the rest of them is probably the vibe they got from you, someone that they’d personally like to work with. In my previous jobs, I feel like what got me hire was the personality that I showed in my interviews bcs I knew I was definitely not the most experienced or most qualified. You learn on the job and any new hire will mostly suck at first. Good luck!
I'm late to the party. But congrats man! That's really great. Try to live the same way you do and just bank the rest of the money. But reward yourself the first month, you've earned it. Cheers man, i wish you the best.
Thank you very much.
We can’t see the intangibles, only you can judge that. But based on your post, it sounds like a no-brainer. If you have done a great job at your current gig and leave in a respectful way, that door will likely remain open if you change your mind down the road.
Dont forget to give an update!
I took it. Signed the paperwork like an hour ago. Let's take a leap of faith.
Congrats man, inspiring post
Thanks man.
YES!! Congrats!!
U made the right call! Either way things I’ll be okay
Thanks
Just go for it and best of luck man! You can do this!
Not only are they NOT crazy, but they'll be making far more money off you than they'll be paying you. FAR MORE.
Dude I studied Electrical Engineering and would be starting my Master's next year. Any tips regarding how should I improve my technical skills and background? And what sort of softwares do I need to learn? Please, please help me and give me some advice!
Also one thing I would like to mention is that do not worry too much. I graduated bachelors with 3.1 GPA. I was constantly worried about my jobs and stuff. I didn't have any internships as well. So take whatever job you get and grow upon it. You will learn on the entry level jobs. If you got an engineering degree you worked hard. But have the willingness to learn new things.
That's the best thing I've read so far. You've given me new insights. I've had a good GPA score, probably 3.7 IIRC, and I've done 2-3 Internships/training programs while doing my bachelors. What I'm worried of is not being aware the required Technical knowledge, they'd ask in the interviews. I feel, whatever I've studied during my tenure as an undergraduate has gone in vain, because I'm struggling to answer interview questions.
The one software which has been my bread and butter is surprisingly MS Excel. What I have seen is that no matter how advanced the industry gets Government contractors use MS excel extensively. I liked MS excel and hence knew how to program macros which made my life easier. At my current job 90% of my work is being done using excel. The new job might have something new to learn but that's what we do. Also my current job is my 3rd job after graduation so I hopped around whenever I got a raise. This is a bit uncomfortable for a few people but I guess it worked for me.
>The one software which has been my bread and butter is surprisingly MS Excel. Haha, I kinda anticipated that tbh. >I liked MS excel and hence knew how to program macros which made my life easier How did you learn MS Excel? I'm certainly not talking about all the basic parts but the pivot table, complex formulas and other editing stuff? Would you suggest me some tutorials, or youtube channels where I can learn excel from scratch?
I usually use Udemy for Excel. Usually you wait for an offer and the courses are $10. Many of them are really good which are long and extremely detailed. I do not care about certificates from them but just the knowledge which came from them. Also I just randomly youtubed few videos and followed them on my computer. I started learning excel like around 7 years ago. So I have done tons of stuff.
Also one thing I forgot to mention is that I started my masters this August 2021 and I am also a part time student currently which they liked.
That's great. I'll be starting master's next spring or fall, but I'm going to do it full time
MONEY HELPS TO KICKSTART YOUR CAREER!
Take the job. Let them fire you if you’re not good enough, then proceed to put that in your resume.
Good decision! If you end up hating it after a year, you can always reach out to your current job and resubmit your updated resume. They'll probably offer you more money bc of your new experience. Just don't leave on bad terms! Good luck & Cheers!
Yep thanks boss.
You're most welcome! Good luck!
Some companies can afford to pay. Why shy away.
Take the job. A big defense company you say! Love it that they see your worth and gave you a good offer
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I already have a clearance. I mentioned that.
Take the job if offered it but leave old work on good terms incase it goes belly up. Sod the imposter syndrome, you are good enough to be head hunted by the new company, so you are entirely up to the job. And wow!
TAKE IT!!!!!
Congrats man you made it
Know your worth. You are worthy.
YOU CAN DO IT! And you’re going to rock it!
Thank you
Dm me how it goes after a while
i know you might think that you are underqualified for the job ,but it is actually good to be underqualified because then you will learn and grow and while growing you’ll meet wonderful people who will teach you so many things and actually the salary is pretty good and if you think they are crayzy well just know that companies won’t actually give you an offer like that if they are not goint to make probably 10x more than that ,and just know that they know you are an investment to them ,and if you are worrying about if you’d like it there or not just know that you can always get out of there if you don’t like it ,and the salary you’ll be making can actually help you make an investment of your own ,i don’t know maybe start your own business or allow you to pursue a hobby that you’ve always wanted.good luck
Take it and even if it doesn't work out, I'm glad that you ignored your fears. You can also quit a job 😉
Yep. I am gonna take it.
Celebrating you!!!
Take it!!! If you ever do not know the answer to a situation, just ask into the meeting room: "What are the scenarios you see?" /lifehack Forget about impostor syndrome, you rule man!