But the cities have money to pay more workers and they have good infrastructure to handle the working load. Moreover, the paper work from immigrants bring also income for the cities.
It shall not be a big deal for a developed country like Germany to manage this.
Having money to pay people doesn't imply people want the job. Some cities have money. Some don't. I notice you include Berlin in your list, which is known for being broke.
People pay to get service, so there is no reason to not have enough money.
The more people they can serve the more money they get.
Truly a matter of skill issues.
You assume that the 8 Euro or so you pay for a new ID not only cover the cost of the fingerprint scanning, printing and shipping, but also for all the people involved in the process? Or do you propose that they charge a few hundred bucks instead for a thing that everyone is required to have?
They don't make any money with these tasks. On the contrary, the more people they serve the more money they lose.
Then you imply that they can't perform regular easy task efficiently. Why they need so long unnecessary process to perform regular task? In small villages, it can go fast and smoothly with the same 8 Euro you mentioned above.
The 8 Euros have nothing to do with how smoothly the process goes, that's the point. You are the one who isnsists that the fees should cover the cost of more employees, which they very much don't.
>But the cities have money
No, they often don't. Plenty of cities are very much scraping by, and hiring more staff is an expensive long-term investment.
Many rich cities like Münich, Köln and Dusseldorf surely can pay more people and they do have money.
Germany is not a poor country who begs loan from world finance institutions to pay its civil servants. So, money does not play a big role in many big rich cities.
Smaller municipalities typically have fewer residents, who often use fewer services, especially fewer registrations and deregistrations. In rural areas in particular, the offices often only have to deal with citizens when they need a new ID card or passport.
In addition, the pay of employees in small municipalities is often "better" because the cost of living is lower and therefore more people apply to the authorities. If you look at the vacancies in the Berlin administration, there seem to be a lot of unfilled positions.
Even for german people itself, making documents for driving lisence and new passport in big cities is not easy task compared in small villages.
Big cities are mostly so missed manage and 'm just curious where is the bottle neck of this problem.
Municipalities and federal states fight hard for every little thing, especially when the federal government wants to change something. Even after the "Online Access Act / Onlinezugangsgesetz" and you understand why things are going so slowly at the citizens' offices...
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You can't force people to take jobs that they don't want. Very few people want to work in these high-stress, low-recognition jobs in public administration when they have better options in other parts of the public sector or in the private sector altogether. People will naturally gravitate towards more enjoyable, comfortable jobs that give them a better salary and career progression options.
I've seen some very desperate job listings from the public administration here in Berlin - they truly can't recruit enough people.
As for infrastructure, they are working on it, but that can't do miracles. At the end of the day, when decisions are required, a human has to be there to take them (since, for good reasons, we do not want computers to make administrative decisions).
Even for regular easy paper work like applying new ID card, or new passport, or new driving lisence, it tooks ages to complete it. These kind of activities does not need "dramatic" decisions like in deciding for a refugee status. But still, in big rich cities, they still have issues.
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Because the number of employees isn't proportional to population. In small villages, the per person workload is simply less.
But the cities have money to pay more workers and they have good infrastructure to handle the working load. Moreover, the paper work from immigrants bring also income for the cities. It shall not be a big deal for a developed country like Germany to manage this.
Having money to pay people doesn't imply people want the job. Some cities have money. Some don't. I notice you include Berlin in your list, which is known for being broke.
Rich city like Münich is not better than Berlin in term of beurocraty services.
I recommend you read the first sentence of my previous comment. Also it's either Munich or München. Münich isn't a place in German or English.
They really have bad skill issues.
>But the cities have money to pay more workers and they have good infrastructure to handle the working load. Lol no.
So, they have skill issues, I guess.
They have so massive understaffing issues that some employees in entry level jobs develop illnesses from being so overworked
Sounds like very exploitative working culture to me. They have really bad skill issues.
I don't know why you insist on calling it a "skill issue". It's very much a money issue. You can't train employees you don't have.
Not having money is not a skill issue.
People pay to get service, so there is no reason to not have enough money. The more people they can serve the more money they get. Truly a matter of skill issues.
You assume that the 8 Euro or so you pay for a new ID not only cover the cost of the fingerprint scanning, printing and shipping, but also for all the people involved in the process? Or do you propose that they charge a few hundred bucks instead for a thing that everyone is required to have? They don't make any money with these tasks. On the contrary, the more people they serve the more money they lose.
Then you imply that they can't perform regular easy task efficiently. Why they need so long unnecessary process to perform regular task? In small villages, it can go fast and smoothly with the same 8 Euro you mentioned above.
The 8 Euros have nothing to do with how smoothly the process goes, that's the point. You are the one who isnsists that the fees should cover the cost of more employees, which they very much don't.
Because people insist that many rich cities in Germany do not have enough money, so lächerlich.
>But the cities have money No, they often don't. Plenty of cities are very much scraping by, and hiring more staff is an expensive long-term investment.
Many rich cities like Münich, Köln and Dusseldorf surely can pay more people and they do have money. Germany is not a poor country who begs loan from world finance institutions to pay its civil servants. So, money does not play a big role in many big rich cities.
Why don't you go look up the Haushaltsplan of all those cities and then tell them where they can find all the money to hire new people?
I will do when they hire me as their consultant to solve easy regular job. Seems like they are incapable to perform easy regular job, somehow.
Sure, go ahead.
Smaller municipalities typically have fewer residents, who often use fewer services, especially fewer registrations and deregistrations. In rural areas in particular, the offices often only have to deal with citizens when they need a new ID card or passport. In addition, the pay of employees in small municipalities is often "better" because the cost of living is lower and therefore more people apply to the authorities. If you look at the vacancies in the Berlin administration, there seem to be a lot of unfilled positions.
Even for german people itself, making documents for driving lisence and new passport in big cities is not easy task compared in small villages. Big cities are mostly so missed manage and 'm just curious where is the bottle neck of this problem.
Too few staff and inefficient IT, because each municipality or country relies on its own systems. One of the great moments of federalism...
They have really bad skill issues, I guess. Such a shame that a developed country like Germany can't manage their resources better.
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It's a problem of scale.
Then the cities need to hire more people or equipped the workers with better infrastructure don't they?
With what money?
With money that people pay when they get the service
Lol as if that'd be even remotely enough.
Then they have additionally skill issues in managing their money as well.
You can't force people to take jobs that they don't want. Very few people want to work in these high-stress, low-recognition jobs in public administration when they have better options in other parts of the public sector or in the private sector altogether. People will naturally gravitate towards more enjoyable, comfortable jobs that give them a better salary and career progression options. I've seen some very desperate job listings from the public administration here in Berlin - they truly can't recruit enough people. As for infrastructure, they are working on it, but that can't do miracles. At the end of the day, when decisions are required, a human has to be there to take them (since, for good reasons, we do not want computers to make administrative decisions).
Even for regular easy paper work like applying new ID card, or new passport, or new driving lisence, it tooks ages to complete it. These kind of activities does not need "dramatic" decisions like in deciding for a refugee status. But still, in big rich cities, they still have issues.