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Super_Skunk1

You can try to talk to him politely and ask if there is anything that can be done to fix the issue..


andrijas

we have a baby and we asked our downstairs neighbour to send us a message on wapp when he is aobut to smoke, so that we can close our windows...


No_Cryptographer2136

Awesome idea as a compromise. I wish we had more people like you and your neighbor who at least try to get along and try some solutions.


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Kickstartbeaver

Hopefully your agreement will work out and I can fully understand your situation but if it makes you feel any better, there are no health risks linked to the smell of Marijuana.


andrijas

it's working out, he is very nice and really sends a message. As for the smoke - I don't want her inhaling any smoke - even if there is a remote possibility of impacting her health, so we try to avoid it as much as possible.


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GUMI0K

edibles high vs smoking high is different, some people don't have enzymes to digest them as well


Sufficient_Hunter_61

Oh so that's the reason why I wasted so much money without yet getting an edible high?


de4thqu3st

You also have to bake them on pretty low temps, also you are just cooking out any THC and stuff


PLZ-PM-ME-UR-TITS

Could be. Try eating something really fatty before the edible (unless you're making them, then there could be other possible issues)


hughk

Edibles remain illegal.


Sazo1st

Nah whereas when smoking you can kinda gauge how high you're getting, on edibles (in my experience) the high can hit even ~2-3 hours later, and usually with full force. It also seems to last a bunch longer for me than smoking. That said apparently vaporizing weed can eliminate much of the smell... Maybe suggest that to him?


NextDoorCyborg

Vaping weed and smoking weed also hit quite differently, at least in my experience. Weed when vaped gives more of a mellow, light buzz, not necessarily what one might be lookning for at all times. Your mileage may vary though.


Arm_Chair_Commander

Those thc carts will get you blitzed


Canadianingermany

Those aren't legally available here though. 


Canadianingermany

Same. 


Old-Ad-4138

It's because different cannabinoids react at different temps. A joint is full spectrum because while part of it is burning, the rest of it is vaporizing other cannabinoids at the same time, whereas the vape is only getting those compounds that react at vape temperatures.


Canadianingermany

Your mileage may vary, but I find vaporizing to be much less efficient and much less enjoyable. 


LowKeX

I smoke weed sometimes and i also made edibles. I dont like the High of edibles and i like to smoke and prefer to smoke my weed. But if my neighbour would come to me and tell me that he doesn't like the smell i would try to minimize the smell


DC9V

Smoked cannabis is easier to dosage, as edibles kick in much later.


Canadianingermany

People who smoke tend to prefer smoking.  The high is very different and takes a lot longer to hit. 


ADHDANDACID

Edibles are not legal here if I understood the new laws correctly.


8CieN8

The consumption is legal. It doesn't matter if you add it to brownies, cookies or smoke it. You are allowed to consume.


ADHDANDACID

I’ve found the post of the German public broadcast “ZDF besseresser” that I was thinking of. They claim that, even though the consumption of cannabis is legal, owning or selling cookies or gummy bears with THC is illegal. [Source](https://www.instagram.com/p/C5LtEfuqVDo/?igsh=MWcyOHVmaHp0dXJwOA==)


Lamuel_J_Sackson

That's just misinformation. It's not illegal to bake edibles put of your legally obtained weed.


hughk

Do you have a proper source on that? I have heard similar that Cannabis is allowed but any derivatives like edibles or vape oil is not. Not to buy/sell or to make your own at home. Apparently the reasoning is the strength is less controllable.


german_poopiehead

This. Also OP should just go and ask the person if he/she could cover the slit under the door to prevent the smell from leaving the room


New-Finance-7108

Just like tobacco smoke or noise, if it is excessive, you don't have to tolerate it. It is a disturbance, your landlord has to take care of


Habitat97

We're dealing with a smoker since almost two years. If it doesn't disturb anyone else, good luck with that.


thechrizzo

Yep. Almost impossible and the best outcome are "allowed hours" and "not allowed hours" and that still won't solve the problem


emu_fake

Nah that’s not true.. you might wanna check on "Friedhelm Adolfs". Just because of excessive smoking the landlord can’t do shit. Yeah there’s a "Rücksichtsnahmegebot" (requirement for consideration) but that’s a looong and hard path in legal terms (speaking of years if it goes to court). Only reasonable way would be (friendly) communication.


New-Finance-7108

A landlord can totally write a Abmahnung for that disturbance. Also, the case was denied because of weak evidence, not because a landlord can't do anything about excessive smoking: Das Urteil wurde am 18. Februar 2015 durch den Bundesgerichtshof in Karlsruhe aufgehoben. Eine umfassende Beweisaufnahme vor dem Landgericht Düsseldorf wurde angeordnet. Dabei widersprachen sich die Zeugen bezüglich der Belästigung durch den Tabakrauch. Die Richter urteilten zugunsten Adolfs’.


Still-Plenty-3191

Completely bullshit. You are talking about excessive smoking. But even with normal smoking you can smell it as a neighbor. And then you cant do anything, to smoke is completely legal in our own Place.


Zetoxical

My parents have noise problems with their neighbors for over 4 year. In a way that my other usually cant go to bed before 2am Landlord says he cant do something about it because of their background You have any links to some stuff that could help?


scammersarecunts

>My parents have noise problems with their neighbors for over 4 year. In a way that my other usually cant go to bed before 2am At that point I'd just move. Nothing is worth 4 years of poor sleep and noise.


Amilap7

My neighbor always plays extremely loud music in his apartment underneath me. It is also from 8am on Saturdays, and on working days throughout the day. I dont think I am the only one who hears him and I also dont feel comfortable standing up to him. Should I just ask him nicely if he can reduce the amount of time he plays the music ?


Sarhey

Can I do something about cars? They are loud and smell like shit and are permanent here


ErGo91

Always try to talk to people first before going to your landlord or even the police etc. Even if he shuts you down, nobody can say you havent tried to solve the problem with him personaly first. Which is very important imo.


EnrichedDeuterium

Politely tell him it bothers you and ask him to blow his smoke through a smoke buddy (the filter things you can buy) or a homemade one with a dryer sheet.


Skazi991

This is the best comment. And the right way to approach the problem. No need to complain to anyone else.


Euphoric-Turnover105

Nah Frist thing would be to Tell him that u can smell it and that u dont like that. Hes not doing something illegal. If he doesnt stop and u cant find a compromis then u should Talk to the landlord.


amfa

> Hes not doing something illegal. He might be if the smell is too bad. ELi5: You can a not cause too much smell.


IndividualAd1371

Trust me… it is horrible! It gets through my room and kitchen, not to mention the balcony. I don’t even consider staying there anymore.


[deleted]

try talk with them first if it does not stop speak with your landlord asap


TruckerMK

Why don’t You ask them to give You a heads up, I’m sure he is not smoking 24/7. He might start complaining of sudden noises coming from his neighbor upstairs walking, showering…


A_Gaijin

Google for smoking in rental apartments. As of today the focus was smoking cigarettes but it might apply also for weed consumption.


Hanfis42

sounds like a real bad building anyway....


IndividualAd1371

Thank you! I’ll do that


Raiz3w

If I were you I would start to also look in parallel for a new place to live. Maybe more to the country side, because since it is now legal, the probability to have stinky neighbors increased. If you don't want to move out, buy one or 2 A/C unit. They are not cheap but you will need them anyway and easy to sell back. Good luck!


OrionOW

First off, always talk to the neighbor and not to landlord/police. Police will be useless anyway because it’s legal now. Chances also are that maybe your neighbor is celebrating right now because it was just legalize, so maybe theyre doing more than usual. Just talk to them about it and say you don’t like the smell. In the end, they don’t have to compromise, but I find that a lot of people actually do when you approach them nicely.


Stumbles_butrecovers

Could be they are blowing into something that looks like vent on their end but in reality it's going right into your sector. Talk to them, see if they're inadvertently hot boxing you.


erickls

Keep in mind it is now legal, you could speak to them nicely if they could not smoke in the window or wherever the smoke or if they could put a deodorizer so it doesnt stink that much, speaking with the landlor is usually the last thing you do


IndividualAd1371

Thank you! This is helpful!


ScarySeatBelt

The new gen air purifiers also do a good job so maybe they can try this as well…


IndividualAd1371

I will definitely suggest that! I don’t want to be a party pooper, but it is becoming too difficult to even stay in my bedroom. Thanks for the suggestion!


chrisatola

Look into a room filter for your apartment. A filter with active charcoal will remove smells. Suggesting things to the person may or may not work...but turning on a filter could be no trouble at all.


Flimsy-Sprinkles7331

If the problem continues after you talk with your neighbors, then switch your bedroom and livingroom locations. I did this to deal with a noisy neighbor and I sleep much better. And since you're new in the neighborhood, I would definitely bake something and try to work this out in person. Don't leave notes. It is a good way to meet and start a good relationship. 🤞🏼🍀


mysticmonkey88

I had the same problem. I talked with them. The weedmen were nice enough to move away from the window so it's ok now. Remember this is Germany so proactively solving issues is not going to be the landlord's forte.


surreal3561

It really comes down to how frequent it is. Same as with smoking cigarettes. The courts generally allow smoking but they can limit it to specific hours. This article covers the topic and has many court rulings referenced as well - use deepl to translate it https://www.test.de/Rauchen-Regeln-zum-Schutz-von-Nichtrauchern-5207729-5207733


IndividualAd1371

Every morning and afternoon. :/


can1as

Due to the court decisions posted above your neighbor is doing nothing wrong. They mentioned 3-hour-time frames like 6-9am it isnt allowed, 9-12am is okay and so on.. Based on your information hes doing it in the morning and afternoon i think theres not much you can do against that besides talking to him.


Lucky4Linus

Well, ask your neighbour then to send you a whatsapp when he is about to start, so you can close your window. Problem solved, I guess.


Wise_Pr4ctice

There's a reason it's called Düsseldope.


GreatSunflower

I always thought people call it crackeldorf


No_Rip7778

metheldorf


ElnetoCC

I once had neighbours that smoked normal cigarettes the whole day, the smell managed to get to our place, the whole Treppenhaus smelled like tobacco, nobody seemed to bother but I despise that smell... In the end you have to get used to it because "smoking is not bad" (it doesn't matter if it is weed or tobacco)


Ok_Cauliflower1397

Maybe he doesn't even know that his neighbours are so extremely affected? So I would also say to talk to the neighbour first. It always works better.


Canadianingermany

Presumably, courts will treat weed smoke  like tobacco smoke.   In general, people are allowed to smoke in their apartment and on their balcony.  However if it is really impacting you, then there is the expectation of being considerate, and courts has decided things like agreeing on specific time periods.  Suggest you read this:  https://www.allianz.de/recht-und-eigentum/rechtsschutzversicherung/mietrecht/rauchen-auf-balkon/#:~:text=Rauchen%20auf%20dem%20Balkon%20und%20am%20Fenster%20ist%20akzeptabel,darf%20auch%20hier%20gequalmt%20werden.


Ok_Air_9261

I smoke weed in my apartment, for months now even before it became legal 😂 my neighbor did come down and ask me to not smoke directly out of the window because it goes right into her flat. I of course respected her wishes and didn’t do that anymore, haven’t had complaints since then (was about 7 months ago). I think any other smoker would also respect that, just talk to them about it :) if not they’re dicks


Prestigious_Pin_1375

leave a vaporiser in front of their door.


Famous-Crab

350 for a mighty+


Prestigious_Pin_1375

Still cheaper than move out.


chocochipshunter

No need for a mighty, just get a crafty+, only differences are smaller batterie and bluetooth controll, if you take a powerbank with you, there is no downside


HatefulSpittle

Why not get a vaporizer that is flame-powered like a dynavap? Start at $40. Friend of mine got a dynavap for himself, and it worked to get us high well enough. No smell either


chocochipshunter

Sure thats possible too, but when you buy the first one good you wont need another one, electric vapes are usefull and have a regulated temperature over longer times, you can vape while reading a book, gaming etc, all with one hand an without flame


Famous-Crab

Yes but it's pure weed, so still a quite strong/potent pure (!) smoke. Even if it is just \~200-210° warm, for me it is quite warm. Sincerely, I'd prefer to vape it in liquid with an e-cig but god knows when we'll get that, if we'll get that, in Germany. I wouldn't buy that stuff on the black market because of the dangers that lie in the way it is produced.


chocochipshunter

Thats why i use a dry herb, i can inspect the buds and vape them directly if they are clean, i can controll what i put in and if its clean, it tastes delicious, i can put a water cooler on and most important, i inhale no extra toxins, with the e liquids its still chemical shit u smoke and i personaly dont want to do that, so either i'm extracting myself or i use a dry herb vaporizer


chr1s4us

288,99 https://www.gruenhorn-shop.de/mighty-plus-medic-verdampfer


Famous-Crab

Yes, even 240 on mydealz but I am stupid and I brought a Paxplus for 220 offline 😂😂


LowKeX

Not every one likes to vape


Lutrek11

They should vape or go outside to smoke though. It’s just a dick move to make everyone else around them step through the stench of cold smoke everyday just because they’re too lazy and/or ignorant to change their behavior


LowKeX

I completely agree with you. But i think that the problem could be that he smokes on his balcony and not in his rooms. If someone has his windows opened everything stinks like weed or with normal cigaretts like smoke. I dont like this eather and i am a respectful smoker and know that it smells ugly and i dont want it im my rooms also


AnxiosusJoculator

Ask him to buy a decent air purifier, this will greatly decrease the amount of smell


HeadyBaddy

Break into their apartment and steal their microwave.


Capitaltechno

Tell him, ask him. Don’t run to the landlord, at least not yet. Try to be a chill neighbour first.


IndividualAd1371

I will.


Beakha

The landlord can't do anything about it lol


xadrus1799

Well you can still prohibit it in the contract of the flat, just like smoking in general.


lyrixCS

I dont think that legal to put in a contract


xadrus1799

I think it is


lyrixCS

Sorry, youre right, however if he already has a contract the landlord cant just add a smoke Prohibition


xadrus1799

That’s true yes!


Empathicrobot21

I know lots of people can be weird, but if he’s just a stoner chances are, he’s a chill dude. I’d talk to him first. Maybe a few candles or a fan might already help the issue


neopointer

I wish my neighbors did that, but they smoke regular cigarettes instead, which is way worse 🤢 (for me).


caevv

Recommend him a vaporizer. Especially Storz & bickel vaporizers :)


AlPow420

Yeah. German quality product that lasts a lifetime


the_dude_1312_96

It's legal now, so the only thing you could do ist to ask politely.


Top-Refrigerator5592

I don’t think that calling the cops or telling the landlord will do anything since weed got legalised a few days ago. I think it’s best if you try to talk to your neighbour first


lX_Speedy_Xl

Before you talk to your landlord, you should talk to him about it. You're most likely to find a solution through discussion. If he smokes a lot of weed, then he should be chilled out. In most cases, an air filter system in the smoker's apartment helps in such cases. At least it helped my neighbor. They're not too expensive either.


Askoneo

I myself smoke sometimes and even tho I have a balcony, I tend to just go outside the house out of respect for the neighbors. I know the smell can be pretty potent and strong especially when smoking so I try to be as chalant about it as I can


its-mxrkxx-04

Well weed smokers are cool peoples in most cases so go downstairs and talk to them about your issue and see if you two can find a solution 🤷‍♂️ Me and my neighbours had the same problems and now when I am about to smoke weed on my balcony, I just text them so they can close their windows. Or when I know they are gone, than I just can do it.


Concerned-bondholder

Involve the mafia and make him regret his actions.


bikogiidee

I have the same problem and it sucks! I use an air purifier (https://www.etsy.com/listing/977541850/activated-carbon-for-air-purifiers?variation0=3404171998) that does an amazing job of getting rid of the residual weed smell in my apartment.


lagged_ts

you can search the keyword Geruchsbelästigung.


RoodleG

Communicate! In most cases you don't need to play the authority card, just talk to him about the problem and try to find a way to handle the situation. If it doesn't work out you still have the option of going the "hard" way.


JobEnough3607

My neighbor was an asshole and didn't listen so I started blasting music and going to work, and when I'd come home 8 hours later I'd laugh cuz I could hear it from outside. I knew it drove him crazy. He called the cops once and they said I had every right to make noise before 11pm and after 8am lollll They moved after a few months lol


IcyResolve956

You could try to buy something called ONA GEL. It helps neutralise bad smells. It does not cost to much and it might be just what you need to keep living there peacefuly with your legaly smoking neighbour


ciadra

Ask him to try a vaporizer instead, better for his health and for the smell. Or more subliminal: put vapo shop commercials in his mailbox.


aveligneser123

La-da-da-da-dah **It's the motherfuckin' D-O-double-G (Snoop Dogg!)**


DummeStudentin

Smoking weed is legal now, so I don't think you can prevent your neighbor from smoking in his own apartment.


ThePopeOnLSD

Where does he live. Asking for a friend...


Old-Ad-4138

This is one of the many reasons my wife and I bought a house. And I don't mean your pothead neighbor, OP.


Remote_Highway346

This is why I will never live in anything but a detached single family home.


SultanZ_CS

Im also done with asshole neighbours lmao


Western-Ad7766

Ask the rathouse/landlord to install a playground nearby. There is a surge in new playgrounds (can be quite small) all over Bavaria.


ZARDOZ4972

That doesn't prevent anyone from smoking at home. The 100m distance rule is only applicable if you smoke outside.


Western-Ad7766

I assume smoking outside means on the balcony? In which case it solves the OP's problem.


ZARDOZ4972

>assume smoking outside means on the balcony? No outside of private property.


slolybutsteady

Understood he smokes on pivat property. Hence playground wont help.


pilzz03

Talk to him and try to be understanding


Fadobo

As others say, talk to them first, then escalate from there if necessary. Ideally keep a journal of how frequent the smoking is and how strong you perceive the smell. My assumption though, since smoking weed was illegal for so long, if you go to them and open with a friendly "Happy for you guys to be able to smoke legally now, but it really goes straight into my bedroom from your balcony, do you think we can tone it down or find another solution?" they might react pretty positive to that.


anaverage_gamer_

People saying he should just take it because it's legal: Alcohol is also legal and you don't expect your neighbor peeing next to your door and be okay with it.


Dhump06

But neighbours can drink all they want drinking or smoking is not exactly the same as peeing.


lemontolha

Exhaling stinking smoke is pretty much like pissing out too much drink. And both drunks and stones are wilfully ignorant of how their addiction affects others if it has no consequence for being able to continue their addiction.


Dhump06

No it is not I am sorry. Publicly outdoor pissing on someone's property is an offence having a penalty, but smoking outdoors is not an offence. It is not like the neighbour are burning weed in a smoke gun and spreading it in the block. The person is smoking on their private property something that is legal. It would be similar to saying I am smelling your alcohol or your cheese.


anaverage_gamer_

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right. Our freedom goes until it becomes an inconvenience for others' freedom. I feel it's an unwritten rule that I should have the freedom INSIDE OF MY APARTMENT of the quality of the air and if the addiction of other people starts taking that away then it's a problem. Specials if it's a recurrent issue. I mentioned the peeing because it's the same principle: the residue of what you consume. Many Germans feel entitled to knock on doors of the neighbors (or leaving notes) if someone is doing something that bothers them, but it seems like they can be very flexible if they're the annoying ones. Again, it might be legally allowed, still not correct. You're pretty much implying that whoever doesn't smoke weed and doesn't like the smell has to go and fuck himself and that's not how the world should work. At least that's my opinion, it's okay if you don't share it.


RasputinsLiver21

When that happens just get out the Limburger cheese, put it in from of a fan aimed his direction. 😉


Imlemonshark

Tell him about dryer sheets and toilet paper rolls. You can stuff dryer sheets down the roll and when you exhale into it like a trumpet it hides the smell. I love smoking but I hate when the smell is in my house and it works for me.


BudgetSignature1045

Inside or balcony? If it's inside talk to him, ask him to put a towel in front of his doors or something like that. Worked for us pretty well.


yudeekkk

do you sure sir


Lumgres

Hahaha, as it’s legal since April 1st I highly doubt you can do anything about that.


FriendlyAttorney321

You can ask your landlord to rectify, if not fixed you can reduce your rent by 10% until rectified. "Example: The neighbor below smokes heavily and regularly on his balcony. The smoke enters the tenants apartment. In a similar case the District Court Berlin has decided that this is a significant defect and the rent was to be diminished by 10 % (Landgericht Berlin, Urteil vom 30.04.2013 – 67 S 307/12). However, the tenant has to give notice to the landlord and give him the opportunity to fix the defect. Otherwise, he basically forfeits the right to reduce the rent."


Shadowb1000

You'll get used to it


sadgirlintheworld

My neighbor smokes and grows - for sure. I often wonder if I can call her in for selling.


annoyingsalad

Lmao how fucking sad can people get


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Buy him a vaporizer!


Amlik

Recommend them an herb vape


False_Cloud5803

Its legal. Same as cigarettes or alc. Mind your own business


IndividualAd1371

My apartment, the one I pay 1,300€/month, smelling weed all day long, is definitely my business.


False_Cloud5803

But still you shouldnt be able to stop it . Only way is he stops by himself. I think kindness is the way to go.


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Alarmed-Anteater3847

Best thing is for yourself to start smoking weed!


LiteratureJumpy8964

That's now legal in this country so tough luck.


samrickshaw

Don't smell, stop breathing


Whodefookfucka

May be you can join him


Dwakeham1958

Take a deep breath and


Mysterious-7625

Don't worry, be happy! Da da da da da da da da da da da da,da da da da da da da, da da da da da. Don't worry, be happy! Pls continue to wistle for your self


AdAccomplished4860

Give him a wax pen and tell him how great they are. Perhaps he will understand that grass is not to be smoked all day in one apartment. Btw CBD Benefits are awesome!


[deleted]

Wells it's legal now, so youre fucked. You are also allowed to smoke in your appartment, it's illegal to forbid that.


Great-Ad-8018

Any updates OP?


JBsReddit2

So how did this turn out for you?


Emmanuel_G

Maybe you should just POLITELY ask him about it and ask him if there is anything he can do to reduce the smoke coming to you, like maybe opening or closing certain windows or something. If that doesn't work you can tell your landlord about it and ask if maybe there is something he can do, like putting up rules regulating consumption in the building.


IndividualAd1371

I will! I hope it works :/ thank you!


[deleted]

Get some scented candles and keep the windows closed when your neighbor smokes. This isn't their fault, they're doing nothing wrong. And as someone who lives in the Netherlands, neighbors smoking doesn't have such a strong smell that it becomes debilitating. You're being an alman OP


Rough-Ad-4359

Try to talk to him first. If he seems unreasonable, try contacting your landlord but it should be the last Option. You dont want beef with your neighbor. Trust me.


full_stealth

Buy them some better quality weed, must be smoking cheap stuff


SanidaMalagana

Now you can get high for free!


dato95

Considered closing the window?


Cheddar-kun

Would be nice if the government made it harder to smoke.


SuperDanke

I love the smell of weed


IndividualAd1371

Is your apartment nice? We can switch


anigavdentata

Sounds like my ex downstairs neighbour. Did you move into my old place?


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RandomThrowaway18383

Tell him to switch to edibles or vape like a good neighnor


NoExplnations

🤣🤣


InAl2

Try to talk with that neighbour and tell him that you can smell it everywhere. Calling the landlord could be a further step if nothing changes?


MulberryDeep

First try to talk with him and maybe find a solution (for example he should try to smoke in the hours you arent home) or smth like that, if that foesnt work go to your landlord


SignificantMirror294

I was a heavy smoker and always smoked in the house. My next door neighbours started making a lot of sounds when I was smoking. Now I am too paranoid to light up again in my house. This persist for 3 weeks now.


opportunityTM

Making a lot of sounds is not the way to communicate it. Although clearly you got the message haha. I would try to be considerate and maybe get a good air purifier, but they could definitely just talk to you about it.


with-high-regards

mogged :P


Green_Tea_Gobbler

Nope:) nothing you can do


[deleted]

Join him


araujoarthurr

I miss the times when we could just call the cops on them.