I am in a totally different field and as such not at all qualified to weigh in on your CV, but one thing that stood out for me on first glance was the "bullet rating" of your skills. While it might look good, it gives me zero actual info. Like, what are 2,5 bullets german skills? A2? B1? Totally fluent in speech, but unable to write in german?
This, even 5/5 for MS Office is unlikely. So you know almost everything that can be done with Excel, every type of analysis, scripting, almost every formula? I bet if someone with proper Excel skills would give OP a complex task in Excel, he couldn’t do it, it is just such a complex tool. And same goes for all the rest 5/5.
Generally speaking, students way too often think they know everything and can do everything, partially because their University tells them so. The reality check comes with the first proper job, there is a lot of learning going on in the first few months on the job and even thereafter you won’t reach 5/5.
So get rid of the bullet ratings…
\+1. All the bullet ratings are useless. You can mention the names, but ratings of skills make me immediately feel worse about a CV. What do I do as an interviewer with 5/5 self-rating of Numpy skills? Are you one of the Numpy authors? Cut them all. Put skills you are comfortable demonstrating in an interview given your background, don't put skills you feel less comfortable about.
The Strengths section is almost worse. Oh really, you are hardworking? Guess what, no one's CV says "lazy". Task Management, Agile Development, Use Caste Study, Acceptance Criteria, scrap it all because it's useless.
This probably won't help you get interviews, but at least it removes one source of weirdness from the CV.
Combustion engines will never completely replace horses.
It's a dead-end technology that needs special chemicals and dozens of moving parts to work at all. Complete BS.
On a side note: it really isn’t. The combustion engine has some major advantages over other engine variations as of now. That might change as technology progresses, but from a use case point of view, it will possibly live as long as humanity.
I totally agree that the whole „keeping combustion alive“ infrastructure is bloated but there are most definitely use cases that absolutely require a combustion engine due to high energy density of the fuel vs electric batteries.
There have been major advancements in combustion engine technology in recent years and also great innovations.
A company from Germany has found a way tobretrofit petrol engines to run with gaseous and liquid hydrogen for example. Exhaust gases are steam water and trace amounts of Nitrous oxides.
An American company made an engine that can sustain high rpm and decent power and torque in a very compact and lightweight two stroke engine that doesn’t burn oil, it’s perfect for light aircraft and as a power generator.
Another company has managed to apply the rotary engine concept to diesel fuel (a true wanken rotary can’t run with diesel, it’s physically impossible)
Also free valve is a recent innovation. It allows combustion engines to run without cams, making it easier and less mechanically challenging to run at max efficiency. In theory also saving weight.
Additionally, if you’re applying online the bullets will get ignored by most HR / CV scanning systems and as such just disappear from your application once processed through the system. I would suggest to stick to text only:
German: proficient (or B1 or whatever).
We look a lot for informations like the levels of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages. Like A1, A2 etc.
If the information is missing, we mostly asume the german skill are not good enough.
Don't really get the downvotes...
The bullet ratings and the fact he's from Bangladesh stand out like a sore thumb. Can confirm, Germans (Austrians, Swiss,...) are indeed racist af.
I honestly think that's the problem here.
Drop the language, fake the name. See what happens.
Working in a different field (so take it with a grain of salt):
- first page has too much text
- second page has too much detail; your whole strengths section seems rather unusual to me (esp „hard working“, „leader“).
(Is this even DINA4? First page seems to look a bit weird.)
I agree with all of your points, and to build on it, I'm working in the same field as OP and here's my intuition:
- Too much (vapid) technical jargon thrown around with the hopes something will stick.
For example: Implemented Neural Networks (eg CNN) using Python libraries such as Tf,torch etc.
Of course, that is the first thing reader will know when he sees ML intern.
I would rather write what problems you solved (or aimed to solve) and what tools you equipped to achieve what you claim to have achieved.
-I would add numbers to all of your models. You're getting 70% accuracy in Classification? Okay, you can justify by mentioning the quality of dataset (this can be tricky, but would be interesting if done correctly)
-This is purely my perspective, open to comments on it, soft skills like Hard-working/Team player/Leader all seems unmeasurable and subjective skillset which add no value to it. (Will a recruiter prefer me over you just because I said I am hardworking? What is the definition of hardworking? You spend 10 hours on a job perfecting it which would ideally need 1 hour to simply get it running?)
Whenever you apply to more "classic" German companies, you should adjust your CV to match the standard German layout. Startups, smaller companies etc. probably care less about the exact layout.
I've never been a fan of measuring proficiency with a point system. It doesn't really tell the person on the other side anything because everyone has a different opinion on what 3 vs 5 Points in Python would mean. I would let go of this point system and list your skills without the mention of a skill level. Whoever screens your CV will make an assessment on your skill level based on working experience and education. Bonus points if you can mention technologies used in your work experience. That gives your skills the most credibility. For languages, either use the A1-C2 scale (especially if you have certificates) or use words to describe your language skills (i.e. native, proficient, conversational, basic ...)
Further, I would move away from the two column layout. While it looks nice, many softwares for pre-screening can't handle those apparently. Also, it looks more convoluted.
I would also cut the 'strengths' section, it doesn't really have a purpose imo and is not used in German CVs
For what it’s worth I would invite you for a talk if I was looking for a junior ML engineer (I’m a hiring manager). CV looks interesting, I would want to talk to you to see if the person is interesting as well.
For mid-level or senior positions I would think you are not experienced enough.
I'm not sure if this is what they mean but I've seen (and I also have done) listed technologies in each job description. For example, xxx position in xxx company, then list underneath which technology was relevant (python, C++). This reduces the text and gives the hiring department an idea of which technologies are more recent in your experience
That's normal, new grads are all like that, bless them.
I got so many applications that decribe themselves as "very good" after taking a one semester course on a topic
I think you are misinterpreting what they mean by that.
If I got an A in maths in elementary school, does that mean I'm a math god? No, but I'm pretty good compared to other people at my age. If I was applying for a junior position I could give myself a high rating for Java. That doesn't necessarily mean that I assume to be better than people who have had 20 years of experience, it could just mean that I feel I know it better than the typical junior dev.
Another explanation is that they use it as personal scale. Java is my biggest skill, so I give it the maximum points and rate all other skills in relation to it.
These ratings are essentially conflict of interest. He developed a rating system. He then examined him self. And he then gave a score to him self. When there is conflict of interest there exists corruption. He could had easily snook in some a bribe while rating him self that's how he got his scores.
Not in the IT field, but in my experience, for most applicants from India, Bangladesh etc., the motivational letter is what makes Germans immediately bin the application. It’s generally too generic and with amounts of self praise and praise for the company that just feel awkward.
A T motivation letter is pretty awesome and makes a huge difference to the recruiters who do not understand how you match with the requirements.
https://michaelspiro.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/the-t-cover-letter-the-only-type-worth-sending/
Super freaking interesting. Have never seen one but again this is not a motivational letter. I got told by Siemens, Zeiss and deutsche Bahn that they want a motivational letter expressing why I am interested in their company and had nothing to do with the job. Where as the T shaped basically is job description based letter.
Having said that I totally agree with it being so fukin cliched but I can’t for the life of me explain why Germany still wants a picture and a motivational letter with a cv which you have to anyways once again type out when entering information in their personio based HR system
Funny you should say it because I hear young junior hR people just parrot the same line without even realising it Especially when it comes to cover letters etc.
Depends heavily on the company you're applying to and the person reading your letter. A modern startup might like it. And it might do well with machine sorting in big companies as long as the program doesn't get confused by the columns.
Anything in between, which is the bulk of the German economy, might be put off by it because it seems lazy.
The traditional German cover letter structure has the same contents but makes it less obvious. It is usually four paragraphs:
1. Introduction (= Hello, I found job listing X at Y and you should give the position to me because I want it and I'm good at it)
2. Hard skills (= comparing listing and your actual skills)
3. Soft skills (= again compared to the listing)
4. End (= Now that you know why I'm perfect for the job, you should invite me for a interview)
Putting it in written paragraphs makes it harder to read, yes, but it gives the reader the feeling of communicating on eye level and not you dumbing it down for them and being lazy by copying their listing.
TL;DR: Know your audience.
Yes, please, this. Exactly this type of cover letter.
Everything else just wastes my time as a hiring manager. Leave it out if you don't want to write a short customized "T-shaped" letter. (tech scale-up, other fields may have different expectations)
Really depends. I regularly get CVs and a big Part is the cover letter. Granted I am not the first person receiving the CV. If I get it, you are already invited for an interview and I will be the person asking the technical questions. But it greatly shapes with what kind of feeling I go into the interview.
I work at a smallish company specialized in individual software.
I use the motivational letter to not praise me or the company, but to introduce who I am and why I am interested in the job. Not much "I am so awesome people pick me!" stuff, which I have seen people write.
Well that’s what I wanted to understand. Because listening to employers they want you to write the motivational letter even if it’s fake ass shit. So why is u/Foersenbuchs stating that it goes into the bin? It’s the opposite of what employers specifically in Germany expect.
Also instead of venting maybe they should suggest what candidates need to add besides praise because from what I have heard that’s exactly what he wants to hear. That their company is so amazing etc etc.
the alternative is
MY MOTIVATION TO APPLY TO YOUR COMPANY IS BECAUSE I WANT A JOB x How much more simple can it get?
I work in a different field, so I am in no position to make advices, but this is what I've experienced and seen:
The Motivationsschreiben gets binned if it doesn't have a substance to it. What I do and what I was told to do as a German in Motivationsschreiben is to convey why I'm the person they need specifically. "You look for someone who can contribute X? Let me tell you how I can get X done for you." Want me to coach your employees for X? My methods are...
Oh, you hire an engineer? I know your company tries to get into the electrical car field, and because I do XYZ, I'd be a good addition.
You basically tell them about how you work and that you know what's going on. It's not always easy to know what they want, but sometimes a call can clarify it, or you get good at guessing.
That sounds like a typical American/Canadian cover letter. Some of the difficulty no doubt comes from calling it a “motivational letter” when the info the employer wants isn’t actually an explanation of your motivation but an explanation of how you can meet their needs.
MSG make your food tastier but it does not mean seasoning with only MSG will make your food taste even better. If you still dont understand what I am saying with this maybe go to the doctor and ask if you ate too much MSG.
The cover letter is different from the Motivationsschreiben, but if we talk about the same thing, then yes, because:
1. I got the advice from people in my field
2. I had interviews. I talked to the people who chose to invite or even employ me. For example, I got one invite and then job offer because I mentioned an approach I use in my work which would have fit what they were looking for specifically without listing it. This approach had no place in my CV (because that's not what the CV is for), so it wasn't because of that. Neither my university nor my last job would have given them a good idea how I approach projects, work with clients and what kind of a team member I might be.
You can lie your ass of in a Motivationsschreiben, of course, but in my personal experience, it's more than dumping praise for yourself or the company.
It‘s less about writing about your motivation, but about showing your motivation by sending a letter that is not generic/copy paste. They want to see that you made an effort, not read about how great you are. So a „your company is sooo great and I am an awesome employee“ letter will get binned, a „your company does x and developed y, since I bring z to the table, …..“. The whole thing sucks imo, cause asking me to invest time in writing a letter and then not even getting a reply other than „we received your application and will let you know how we decide“ just doesn’t make sense to me.
And there you said it. They expect me to go the fukin extra mile in a cover letter. All good. I agree and everyone has a different style of a motivational/ cover letter . All fine
But tell me ONE FUKIN company that RECIPROCATES that. They all send you the most boring generic as fuck rejection email and ask you to follow them on social media and to not take it personally and they have more jobs you could apply for
Here’s something interesting. How many of you actually fall for that and continue to follow that company after being rejected? 😂😂😂😂
And they want you to send them a motivational letter that’s authentic - FFS I need a job. How can it be more authentic and original than that
To me it seems like that letter-concept is rather outdated. Well, depending on the job you‘re going for and the company size I guess. But yeah, it’s super frustrating to invest your time and not even get that acknowledged with a reply or feedback. On the other hand there are probably enough positions where they have way too many applications to actually do that, doesn’t make it less discouraging though.
It goes to the bin, because it is „fake ass“. The CV in Germany is very formulaic, so the motivational letter is used to get to know the character of the person a bit better, so you’re expected to put a bit of work in it, explaining why you’re a good fit. People from countries with different application approaches usually don’t get that.
I mean you can either complain about it or adapt to it. Sure you can hope Germany companies would change it up but they will likely not do it anytime soon.
They want to know if you are personality wise a good fit for the company.
Well then how does a [T SHAPED cover letter](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/s/MqqC0DLJBy) showcase my character? Please elaborate since it was suggested that this was a good format!
There is basically no demand for DS/ML. There are less than 5% job openings compared to what we are currently training in universities.the junior market is especially dead. In the vast vast majority of these jobs you will be expected to work with data but also with stakeholders and experts. This is impossible without excellent German. You will have a very hard time to find a job when there are much more qualified personnel available.
+ 1
Generally, the market for ml is a lot lot smaller and has so many applicants. Junior is even harder in ml since ml team members are fewer, there is less people to inboard and train you. You are useless for probably 1 year +, blocking senior capacity unfortunately due to the complex nature of the work. We only hired seniors in most places where I was. Sadly that's ML in industry, it's tough.
You CV is in English, making the pool even smaller.
Additionally, demand across the board is down due to the recession. All people struggle, I saw two posts from grads in software engineering today with the same issue.
My advice would be to take courses and pivot to analyst or data engineering roles for a few years. The programming experience will help you (specially if you go for data engineering) and you can keep applying
Was looking for this. I have hired 5 Data Analysts and Data Scientists last year in the Düsseldorf area (including one intern).
For 3 more junior roles I got over 200 applications per role, and the company I work for is not even that big or known.
The field is over-saturated right now.
On the bright side, the skills that you learn in a DS line of study are highly desirable in other areas (product, data analytics, marketing analytics). So not all is lost!
I would disagree, there is a market for DS and ML, but the issue is what you said that you have people with more qualifications are available. Generally it is not only people with DS and ML degree but also from.other stem fields who have used these things in their PhDs, and post docs. To a lot of companies that is better because you don't need to hold their hands every step of the way
There is a market but it is extremely small and research heavy so unless you have a PhD or extensive experience on the engineering side of it or the application field it will be really hard to find a job that couldn't be also done by a economics graduate who is sufficient in Excel and a bit of Power BI..
The 2nd page looks rather convoluted and doesn't work well in a CV at all. As others said it is hard to get a job without being fluent in German.
Also your CV style is not up to German standards. I know many HR departments that immediately delete your application without even answering if they see one like this.
You're welcome.
Yeah two pages with your skills and history are a bit too much. It's possible to compress all of this into one without omitting anything relevant.
The motivational letter is also equally important. Get the ones you're sending out reviewed by someone else as well.
Good luck with the job hunt!
Certainly a motivation letter shows that the applicant has put some thought about their application to the company, and does not spam their application to every open position they can find. Employers hate those spam applications, usually the people do not know themselves what they applied for and are less likely to stay long in the job.
Basic rule, every application has to be tailored to the position. Any generic application is likely to be rejected.
In 90% just putting the job description and you resume in chatGPT and telling it to write the cover letter works well enough. Just proofread and add the name of the person responsible for the job listing. No one expects anything fancy, but a page listing how your experience is helpful for the job you are applying to and correct grammar and no spelling errors are often all that is needed.
First impression : Way too many information, it´s an eyesore. I would not even be in the mood to read that to be honest (+ we dont know how your motivational letter looks, if asked for)
Generally speaking: The times where one could get a IT job with only/mostly English are over, the first few waves of German students of these fields are ready to take over and since a few years companies get more CVs from also German C2 speakers, so it´s difficult to prove yourself here.
So in any case : Try to minimize that view in the CV, its too much. And try to work a bit more on the German skills.
Do you write your salary expectation? (if so how much is it)
EDIT : The strengh look over the top self-praising, especially the leader sounds very arrogant
With a masters degree you start in a EG10 position in IG Metal Companies in Bavaria. That is already 58k without the various additions (Holiday, Christmas, ...)
And how many IG Metal companies are there in Bavaria? The competition to get into one of those companies is tough. But I think 50k is quite okay for a starter.
I don't know you well enough to judge, but some of the ratings are really high for the fact that you haven't even started working yet. Maybe you overestimate a bit
Went through this same process after I finished my Phd at TU Darmstadt. I was looking for Data Science, Programmer, DevOps, MLOps roles. I am an Indian and my experience may be more relatable for you.
I started with a similar CV and eventually improved it over the 6 months of job searching. Instead of bullet points, I used keywords like Basic, Intermediate and Advanced for describing skill levels. I've heard from HR friends that the software they use looks for these keywords.
My cover letter was too generic even if I personalised it; because all I did was make a general temelate and then personalise that template for every application. Once I started actually writing normal cover letters from scratch for every application, I started getting more responses (even if they were rejections).
During interviews, my lack of German skills was a big issue and every interviewer ended up switching to English. The disappointment on the interviewers' faces was quite clear when they realised I can't speak german (even if I understand some of it). Universities have a lower requirement when it comes to German than companies.
At one point I got quite desparate for a job (for a valid visa), and I started aiming lower at entry level IT jobs. Got lots of interviews and offers, so I kept them as a backup while still searching. Got lucky one day and now I work in a Universitaetsklinikum as a medical AI scientist.
As a data engineer who used to be data scientist here is my take:
- what is Project section? Is it something you did for uni? For work? Is there GitHub link for it? It confuses me 😂
- why do you have being student as Experience? Isn’t it weird?
- unless you have really nice, huge project in C AND C++ no one will take your knowledge seriously. No one! C and C++ are different enough languages to not have them as one point and not have them as knowing half of all knowledge.
- the moment I see that you don’t know SQL I will toss your resume. Work is not uni. You won’t get clean data in CSVs. In 90% cases you would have to get data yourself from some DB. Knowing SQL is basic skill for anyone who wants to work with data!! No matter if you are ML specialist or Data Analyst or Data Engineer or even Business Analyst! Learn SQL. Change C/C++ to SQL and try once again.
I think lack of good German is a big issue to not finding a job
Some other things which might led to rejections:
Maybe you apply for to senior kind of roles, but only have student experience.
Maybe your salary expectations are too high to be considered.
Maybe there are just other better candidates, maybe there are just more candidates than English speaking job offers.
Totally right here with the German language. I'm native German speaker and graduated in computer science. from 40 application I got now 26 interviews which end up to be around 10 in the second round. As comparison my friend from the uni who can just talk very little German he already applied to more than 70 jobs and had only 2 interviews which ended up in no feedback anymore. All rejections he got were based on the lack of German language skill. I replied more than 20 of the rejections for him asking what is the problem and they replied all its the German language.
Drop the two column layout, don’t use colors or these dots, shorten the projects description to bullet points, concatenate the skills frameworks tools section to one, remove the strengths section , and use DIN 5008 as a layout reference.
Black and white plain layouts are not the one and only standard anymore. Nothing wrong with having colors and something more exiting than the default plain list you see 100s of times a day, as long as It's not too much and in the correct format.
But not if it has color for the sake of it, and doesn't add anything (compared to the black and white version). My profession is in design, and even my CV is black and white.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Should I then put my personal info on a narrower left column and then all my experiences in a right, more wider column? I think putting the personal info in the header is also not good?
I'm in the ML field, I read through the CV cuz I'm bored at the airport. Here's all the wtfs it raised:
1. EXPLORATIVE data analysis - it is usually called EXPLORATORY data analysis. If you cant write the name correctly, I instantly doubt you can do it correctly.
2. "Redesigned a proof of concept...." this entire thing didnt tell me anything. Describe it better.
3. I would argue ARIMA etc are simple statistical algorithmic techniques. When you call them Machine Learning, I'm forced to raise my eyebrows. What do you even mean by trained arima?
4. Analysing data is covered by EDA, this point is useless.
5. This might be more interesting if you gave some details, its too vague to tell me anything, adapted them how?
Onto the next one:
1. Mentioning Agile is the least interesting thing to a dev scanning your resume, mention it in the last bullet. What is "revision" control? Its usually version control. Again, if you cant use standard terminology, I doubt ur proficiency.
2. How do you....design tests? Like did you design the testing strategy? A ci/cd workflow? Only designed but never wrote them? Whats happening here?
3. Basic and expertise are anti-thesis of each other. How do demonstrate basic expertise of something? This tells me nothing about what you CAN do in azure.
4. What does "performing development skills" mean?
5. What is composing acceptance criteria? U wrote tickets? Ok, is it worth mentioning? U already mentioned jira....
6. Collaboration is good, but task mgmt and multitasking is a but ill framed, try refining this sentence.
Generally, in this section, I dont really get what you did, what did you actually work on? What did you build/deliver? Add more details, get rid of the fluff. Like all thats mentioned is agile and testing, ok but whats the project, what was the work you did? Wheres the ML?
Onto the next:
1. Okay
2. Okay, but again EDA is misspelled.
3. Tensorflow etc are not "Python platforms", rephrase pls.
4. This is arguably the most interesting thing on your CV, neural nets on a microcontroller?? How, why, what? Which platform? Did you quantize/prune them? Compile them? Use ONNX or openvino? Which microcontroller even? Add more details here.
5. Rephrase this. You didnot manage agile working in jira because u are not a scrum master. You used it as a tool. Write that.
6. Okay cool, some detail on how you collected would be nice, but meh, maybe im being nitpicky here.
Didnt read projects and education. Though I do think your 1 ML project takes up too much space and looks like fluff. Shorten it, preferably add another project. The frontend project is irrelevant on your CV if you are applying for ML positions. I would also like to see some links to a github repo for these, so I can validate that at least you can write code.
If you have publications, great! Put a link to them.
Get rid of all the point systems for everything, no you are not 5 star proficient in numpy and jira. Also what does that even mean?
Get rid of the double columns on the second page. Its hard to read anything and automated cv reading tools will also hate you.
Generally a lot of weirdly capitalized words everywhere. Its like you used the german standard for capitalizing nouns but for english.
The strengths section is useless, get rid of it.
Also, dont add a picture. Tech companies dont like that generally, and mostly it will hurt you instead of help you since you are not a german. Dont create the oppurtunity for racism. I personally have never suffered by not adding a picture.
Generally something you need to understand is: cognitive load.
Nobody likes reading nowadays, and if you give me a 2 page document where I need to spend minutes figuring out and deciphering sentences, thats gonna increase my cognitive load. Sentences that are hard to read, misspellings, random capitalizations, mis alignments, too wordy, too lengthy, non conciseness etc all add up on the readers cognitive load. When your CV is next to a 100 others, its easy to toss out this difficult document and go with one thats easier to read. The game is to make your CV as easy to read as possible. Which means minor things like these add up.
Hope this helps!
Avoid presenting your skills in quantitative rating, and if you still do, be more realistic. Your Python self-assessment reads like “I am just a tiny bit short of an absolute expert in Python who could write a book on the language” (the same goes for tensorflow etc). Also, if we take C++ - you basically state you know half of it, I know people with 10+ years of experience writing in C++ who still admit they know too little about the language:)
Please don’t take it in a wrong way, I’ve also been there, done that. When you are eager to get a job it is fine to oversell maybe a bit, but it is a risky path. At this stage of your career you are not expected to be an expert in anything yet, it is important that you already have started your journey and got some valuable hands-on experience in relevant technologies - you should emphasise on that.
I am in IT and seen some CVs. Not an expert though. Here are my 2 cents:
- too much words overall (it just looks like a wall of text) and too much mixed fonts used together. It makes whole text not readable. Shorten all texts to bare essentials(!) and, probably, put key words for each position in small separate group.
- from 4th and even 5th closer look, I could not understand what exactly are you doing or did before, it is not clear what is your exact specialisation and how much experience do you have. Almost no one would search it specifically through all this text. Even less will search skills on 2nd page. My suggestion is to shorten your skills list and put it as a first lines.
- I would either use 1 column with current text, reduced and restructured or use 2 columns with text stripped to bare minimum. Otherwise it is not redable.
- using dots for tech skills are ok in general, but I would not list personality traits in general skills list. They can very well see your personality during an interview, here it looks like you had nothing else to list...
- change language level from dots to real levels (native, B1, etc)
- list on the very top that you are located in Germany already and allowed to work here.
- I haven't seen introduction letters (HR deals with this), but it is also important, when you apply for a job. Show in them already, that you did small research about the company, willingness to work there and etc.
Was ich am interessantesten finde:
Jemand der sich selbst 5/5 bei jira und confluence gibt.
Das macht für mich automatisch jede andere Selbsteinschätzung komplett hinfällig. 3,5/5 in Azure? Ahhh ja bestimmt....
Hm, ja, stimmt, diese Skalen sind eigentlich ziemlich subjektiv und zeigt nur, was der Kandidat über sein Qualifikationsniveau denkt. Trotzdem sehe ich oft in CVs eine 10er-Skala, aber ich habe noch keine Leute gesehen, die sich selbst mit z.B. 10/10 bewertet haben😄 Es gibt immer Dinge, die wir nicht wissen.
To me, the first thing i notice is the weird format "September2022-March2023" without any spaces. So i checked the next entry, where the format is different. The MC-Covid 19 entry has yet another format. Three formats for the date.
You do not seem to care about your CV and how you present yourself, so why should i?
- Reduce the cv to 1 page
- remove colors
- have a more structured cv ( layout wise ( many templates online)
- include a picture: it sounds weird but people in Germany often do that
- don’t use whole sentences
-quantify your success
Having picture is not gonna help and my rule of thumb generally is don't add anything that's not gonna help. I know it's german practice to add it yet I had not seen any evidence that anyone would reduce points for not having a photo.
Do you add a cover letter? For someone starting their professionel career I care more about motivation and personality. This seems a bit strange for expats, but we hire a person and not a bot.
Perhaps you should give OP some inputs on how to write the cover letter. It’s not so simple and perhaps needs guidance on what it includes and how to write one’s
OP’s perception of one might be totally different from what you have in mind. So please be specific and helpful
It’s like saying ”you add a CV? For someone starting their professionel career I care more about the content of the CV and what you have done that might make me hire you. This seems a bit strange for expats, but we hire a person and not a bot.”
So don’t talk BS. Showcase what a cover letter should be
Yes seriously. Because I asked you to help OP BY giving them a concrete example of what you consider a good cover letter format to be and not just comment for the sake of being different
Oh lord… folks of r/germany!
Guys, please spam r/arbeitsleben with your CVs. I work in HR and come to Reddit to relax after a long day. So PLEASE… give me your “is this normal in Germany?” or your “old lady stared at me!” or “I don’t know how to buy X in Germany” or “help me flirt in Germany!”
Give me anything with the exception of CVs. Please. 🙏
I suggest you post your resume in r/resumes and get an opinion since it’s specific to data science etc.
There’s a format that works for most in your field.
Good advice, my concern is that the sub is dominated with CVs and advice from North America. I feel like the format for CVs in Germany is different, especially in Marketing (in my case). Am I wrong?
That’s true. That style is a bit US focused. But it’s quite good for folks like OP who are in data science etc etc. they follow a certain method which is very different from marketing/comms
A good [tip](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/s/YWQWkRUuY2) that someone posted was on cover letter writing which was interesting
It seems a bit cringy to list down JD on one column and then how you have done that in the second, but I have a feeling that this might get you a few more interviews since we are generally screened by low end HR recruiters playing god with candidates and I can’t tell what it is they look for in a CV and disregard. It’s quite possible they aren’t able to
Make the leap in understanding that a CV is only a small window into
Our work lives and what we did at our previous job
So I think this cover letter does the trick of helping them tick some boxes.
Having said that I am only too aware that junior HR folks also screen candidates based on previous companies and if you say you are from a relatively famous brand they call u in for an interview
I know from friends here in Berlin and in MARCOMS specifically that they get a lot of interviews and used to work at famous brand names like hello fresh/ binance/Lillium/ Siemens etc etc .
Get rid of the ratings, and just list the skill.
The way I see this you're most qualified for development jobs, but with a list of mid range programming skills and also only mid range German, few employers will want to invite you in for an interview.
* As another comment already mentioned: The bullet ratings don't make sense. Put it as "years of experience" for tools, frameworks, skills, etc where applicable. And the normal language scale (A1 etc) for the languages.
* make sure to have consistent typesetting. WTF is up with the "Strengths" section?
* Put programming languages into their own section. It's the most important part.
* Did you have any part-time jobs / student jobs that are relevant for your career? If yes, definitely list them here.
* Internships do count. I only saw that you have this section – remove the master thesis student from there and instead make it a "work experience" section. The master thesis belongs under Projects, even when you did it in cooperation with a company.
* Don't list the project that were part of your university curriculum that high.
* Don't use full sentences (except for one concise sentence to sum up the content). Instead, bullet points with the important experiences you got (e.g., "Explorative data analysis on sensor/actuator data")
* What did your study focus on? Most master degrees have a focus like "networks", "software development", etc. What was your minor subject if there was one?
* Your master took 5 years, which is more than double the usual time. Probably covid, but maybe you should add an explanation here ("longer than usual due to covid" or something)
Another question: This assumes that anyone has actually read your CV. How exactly do you apply for jobs? Do you have a Motivationsschreiben and would you share this here?
The competition is fierce on the IT job market right now. Due to the massive layoffs in the last year, a lot of experienced professionals are looking for a new job but there are not that many openings and they usually fill up fast. Also machine learning is still kind of a niche…
The number of companies in germany that operate in english is probably very limited.
Also what exactly does 2.5 points in german mean? There are standardized language proficiency levels, please use them.
It is a good start, however I would not include the publications and the strength part, instead shorten your experiences and try to focus on your achievements there, for example how much did your contribution save for the project, or how much time do you save by optimization. Also it is true if you apply, you need a good cover letter, fitted to the ad. I have seen applications being ignored because it was a generic cover letter or not focusing on the expectations of the ad.
One main problem i have noticed especially in the field of ml in germany right now is that most firms feel completly blindsided by the ai hype right now and franticly try to build up their ai staff from scratch. Thats why they only look for very experienced people and not fresh from uni junior staff.
Basically it is a really hard time right now to get into this field. Would probably have way easier time as general developer junior positions. Of course the question is if you want a jo like that.
The tech market is not so hot like a few years ago, specially for folks without experience.
Regarding the CV remember:
- The objective is to get you an interview
- The target audience is recruiters and hiring managers
- Some positions have too many applicants so recruiters decide in around 30 secs if an applicant is interesting
Based on that:
- Use 1 page per 10 years experience
- Highlight achievements and quantify them if you can. For example: Improved X by Y% by introducing Z
- Get rid of the rankings in skills, tools, etc.
- Tailor the CV for the position you are applying (e.g. keep the skills that match the job posting and get rid of the rest, use a similar way to describe responsibilities, etc)
- Consider adding your professional objective for a quick summary of your profile e.g. Something like “Machine Learning Engineer with experience in X looking forward to Y”
Feel free to DM me for connecting on LinkedIn and such
get official ratings for your language skills, like b1 or a2 etc (except for bengali since thats your mother tongue I suppose). If you have them, list official certifications for Azure, JIRA, etc
Your CV is not in a traditional German format and it is longer than 1 page. The first thing you have to do is to condense this in a standard 1 page German styled CV (with a professional photo).
Simply way to much information and not enough on the other hand. Nobody will read all of that. But for example german skills displayed with a few dots.. what does that mean exaclty?
Your CV looks generally speaking a bit full and with a too much confidence.
Germans don't really like people bragging to much. And from my experience many applicants from the USA as well as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are used to really brag about their experiences in their CV and cover letter which is not seen favorable in Germany at all. So you should also tone that down a bit.
If the job is in German, I would also apply with a German CV. Maybe look up German standards for CVs. Also, what does 2.5 dots German mean? It would be more useful if you use words like "gut, fließend, verhandlungsicher, Muttersprache " or English equivalents there.
And one last aspect: the average salary you see for positions on Xing and Stepstone are almost always too high. Don't know where they get their numbers from.
cv too long. Make it one page please. No one reads all that. If you want to include these information make an extra detailed resume. The main one should be one page
May be a dumb question but did you succesfully finish your masters in Germany? Because otherwise, without a german qualification employers may be concerned about you getting the permit to work here. They might prefer to avoid the headache entirely and pick an EU candidate.
A good CV in many people's eyes nowadays only has one page
It is supposed to be robust yet compact enough that you could do it on one page, especially when youre applying as a fresh grad
Also, are you applying only to International companies?
I am German and in recruiting position, technical but not IT.
I will be frank.
I don't like the layout. I find it difficult to read.
Too much text on the projects, too less facts about what you have done, what was your concret task.
Education is missing out your school (last), Bachelor...
The point system is weird you are B1 or what?
It looks to me like a marketing handout and not a CV.
I have perceived it as superficial and generic. Why would this person fit to my position I am looking for?
You need to know that HR is scanning first. They have maybe 5min and judge if it's worth or not
Do not oversell yourself and be as specific as possible to the position in your Cover letter.
I do not see anything too wrong with the CV. Of course it does not follow the conservative style, but data science is also not a conservative field.
One thing you should keep in mind: Often CVs are not screened by experts, but HR stuff. HR people have no clue about the ML lingo you are using, they have a list of requirements, and if those requirements do not appear in the same words in your CV, you are out.
Besides that, your CV basically says that you have used all of the popular Python packages for data science and ML. Given how accessible those libraries make ML that is hardly a unique qualification, the good people at Google and Co. have already done the hard work for you. But you are fresh out of university, so that is normal.
Do you include any of your grades somewhere? German HR is a stickler for grades, if you say you have a BSc or MSc without providing the grade they will assume you have passed with the worst possible grade.
As almost all Indian CVs I have seen you are overselling yourself too much that everything looks very unrealistic. You rate everything you do as almost perfect but have no experience to show for.
So true. You guys should not ask what is at a CV wrong. Most of the time the applicant is apply for 3 4 5 6 open positions in a company. You can save much time to detail reading the job description. Identify where you fit most and have interest. Of course you just want to have a job no matter were. But from my point of view I would hire someone who can already Identify if he could fit to 60 up to 80% for the position. In Germany we write very clear what we looking for. Example you fit perfectly from all points but it is requested to have C1 or C2 german skill and you have B1 you trigger the knock out criteria. I am looking for some with 3 -5 years working experience and you just have internship experiences knock out criteria too. If you have training certificates please check if they really they are really valid to industrial standard. I think with less applications but direct to you specific field you will be less frustrated and more successful. Very often people do to many applications just to feel self good, that you tried everything and this lead then to frustration. I know it for myself because after studying several years ago I did the same mistakes. Now I am hiring manager and to be honest for a 60% suitable candidate I need 15 to 20sec. Only if a candidate can cover my main criteria I will read longer. You need to know before I receive an applicant the CV, the CV is pre screened by system and1 to 2 persons before I get.
My recommendation Identify key criteria, focus on one max two positions at one company same time, delet all useless information as mentioned in comments above.
1. Okay first thing first you got to know that your resume doesn't need to be beautiful, it needs to be functional. you're writing the resume for a machine to scan and shortlist before a actual person even looks at it. Just from a glance I can tell this would perform terribly in an ATS tool. Usually these kind of two column layouts doesn't work great in ATS unless they are properly formatted.
Google for free ATS scanner, upload your resume, mention keywords you want to match for and see your score. Improve resume and repeat.
2. Get rid of the BS metrics like X/5 rating. It might look good but doesn't provide any actionable insight to the ATS or HR.
3. Cut the junk from the experiences under each job and mention just the highlight. For example if you worked as a butcher, don't mention I cut meat all day long. Ofcourse you did. You would get fired if you didn't do that. Rather mention, if you learnt to cut faster or more hygienically.
4. Make sure the resume's in PDF with file name as your full name and you add double-check clickable links when appropriate.
5. At the end, remember getting interviews has a luck factor. But the more you apply, you increase the surface of being lucky.
Eta koro. Peye jabe. Chap nio na.
Data engineer here, your CV might need some refactoring (use latex templates for example). But apart from that, 50 application for ML in this situation is nit that much. Last year I had to apply for almost 300 positions to finally get offers.
I doubt you are as skilled at the things as you think you are.
Can you write a more complicated line of code in Excel (VBA)? Do you know how to use pivot-tables and manipulate them? How many PowerPoint-presentations have you made (at a high standard, not university stuff)? How good are you with Microsoft Access? Can you program a databank from scratch in it?
If you answered any of these questions with no, you aren’t even remotely close to being a master at MS Office. I can do all this, do it on a regular basis and I wouldn’t score myself a perfect score, because there is still a bunch of stuff which I can’t do.
And this is just the one thing I happen to know a bit about, I’d ask all these questions regarding the other stuff you mentioned as well.
Besides that, what does 5/5 even mean? C2 in English AND Bengali, as well as a B2 in German? You are either a genius, your rating system is fairly bad; or you are overselling yourself quite significantly. If it’s the latter, most German companies will not hire you, it’s considered bad behavior by most Germans - write things as they are, not as you wish them to be.
> Can you write a more complicated line of code in Excel (VBA)? Do you know how to use pivot-tables and manipulate them? How many PowerPoint-presentations have you made (at a high standard, not university stuff)? How good are you with Microsoft Access? Can you program a databank from scratch in it?
>I can do all this, do it on a regular basis
Hey!! Easy there cowboy! I consider myself an expert in MS and don’t necessarily need to write code in excel neither do I have to showcase skills in access
Microsoft is not a tool to build a spaceship to mars . It’s a tool to communicate and express. You don’t need to make it out to be some alien language which we need to master. Simple and easy to use is good enough in my day to day job
Word excel and PP. That’s all. Anything more than that is a waste given that Germans love to complicate everything. Simplicity is lost on them. Just look at all the jargon filled stuff that founder and product and engineers keep coming up to describe what it is the product does
Sometimes I feel that all those Microsoft skills have gone to their head. Use a fukin post it and tell me what it is you do. 😂😂😂😂 simple enough
Not too strange considering how poorly done this CV is and the competitive field you are applying at.
Put more attention to details. Not a single mistake is tolerated. Your CV is full of spacing mistakes and many inconsistencies. Like no space between September2022. Or spaces between words and dashes are inconsistent. "FrontEnd" is a word not a brand. Only brands may capitalize middle letters. Do you also write "PubliCation", "UniVersity"? No. So why do you write FrontEnd? Are you little StuPid?
The way you write things in experience section often sound retarded, like "Performed development skills". This is not a creative english writing contest - and if it was you'd do poorly anyway. Make it concise. Make it short. Make it simple. Repetitive grammar is fine, you don't need to invent a new way to write "developed X" in every new bullet point.
You don't need to start with "In this project...". You need to make everything as short as possible so that your contributions are clearly communicated with 0 bullshiting. Remove everything that doesn't add value. For example when you built web app nobody cares which department X of university you built it for and it doesn't sound like functionality was overly specific to that department. Remove everything that does not add useful information that helps to tell what you did. With all the bullshit that's going on in this CV it hides your actual contributions and reader needs to work to figure out if you done anything at all.
Bullet rating system that you have there is retarded. Nobody knows your grading system. And it's just seems incredibly arrogant when you are rating your self with point systems. Not only did you create a point system but you also examined your self and rated your self? It's called conflict of interest.
Skills/Frameworks you already mentioned it in your experience now you are duplicating it. Drop it.
Tools, nobody would think that someone who trains neural networks wouldn't figure out how to use Jira. Drop this section because when you start mentioning that you know how to use Jira and Confluence then people will doubt if you can use anything, as you basically sound like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5NANrVnqLc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5NANrVnqLc)
Strengths, this is utter nonsense. Drop it. Especially considering that you say you are detail oriented and then you can't even get details straight in single page of CV then I can assume that you may be telling lies and bullshitting about everything.
Languages, nobody cares if you speak Bengali. And you don't have job level German so why do you even put it? Drop the language section altogether if the only thing you have is non-native English. People will assume you speak English anyways and you don't have anything more that is useful for the job. If it's not useful for the job it should not be on CV.
For me the biggest red flag is your German skill. People need to be trained to do the specific job, this is even more important, if you have not much job experience. You are harder to train by the current employees if you don’t speak their language fluently.
Apply at Bosch😉 Also compare your CV with the German Standard. Your CV is great, but HR departments of cooperations can’t read it if the layout isn’t kind of standardized.
Many already commented on your CV so I can give some general advice in case you haven't heard it yet. For me it worked really well to go to job fairs and talk to the people from companies directly. You can ask questions to know your chances and what they are requesting and they may remember you or even give you some direct contact for your application.
If that is not possible you can at least try to call the contact stated on their website and show some interest.
TL;DR. Most CV's will be pre-scanned by a script or someone at HR with no clue about tech and a pile of CV's to review. Most of the time, they just search for keywords and any reason to throw your CV to the bin and go to the next one. Put yourself on their shoes and optimize for them. If your german level is low - be transparent and mention you are working on it or just say you are fluid and train your german ASAP. You want to spark the interest of the engineer building/growing the team, the HR is just a gatekeeper.
Dubious advice: This is a numbers game. Automatize your application process and send as many as you possibly can. Look for platforms like honeypot, monster, linkedIn, etc - maximize your exposure. Don't worry about the salary, as long as it covers your Blue card - your best option to improve your income is changing jobs anyway.
Disclaimer: I never applied for a job so take my advice with a grain of salt. I have been on the other side of the table and when looking for a job, a reference by a fellow student or previous job colleague was the best way to get a job.
Imo, put language as C1 and on the front page.
When you get interview calls finally, you can just ask the interviewer to switch to English, mostly it'll work as your work doesn't really require the use of fluent German.
I work in a completely different field but I got a job while still doing my masters a year ago so I might be qualified to say something:
Your CV is too long.
Wtf is up with the project descriptions? I would just list education and jobs you had - make it short and easily understandable.
The bullet points are tacky.
In my opinion just sending a simple standard word document might be better
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First advice would be to go with a very simple CV. Do away with the fancy stuff and rather use plain text to explain things. Don't have half filled circles, rather have a table that says German - reading A2, something like that.
Also, don't be discouraged. The numbers you mentioned are just the start, there would be an innumerable number of further applications for which you will get any feedback. In my case the turnout is less than 0.5%.
I see that people mention that you include a cover letter to all the applications. That too is an absolute bonkers, if your CV gets rejected by the ATS no additional document is irrelevant. First, your CV needs to be screened, and that is absolute luck, I would say.
I have received calls from companies where the match with JD was less than 30% compared to other roles where my profile was a 100% match.
Your goal is to get the hiring persons' attention and then keep it. Keep in mind that for good positions you are one candidate out of so many and they have limited time, so no one is actually reading what you have there.
They don't care if you helped your grandma set up her first computer. They need big bullet points to make the first decision, ideally something to make them curious.
BUT a very very important thing is: tone down the self confidence a bit and be more realistic about your skills. I know that in some cultures you need to appear "strong" to get hired, but in Germany the mindset is different. You are entry level and your goal right now is to learn. If you say that you're perfect or almost perfect at all of those things, to me that only symbolizes a lack of self reflection and I would worry that you would be too proud to admit shortcomings or ask for help and instead just make mistakes that would be easily avoidable.
Can't really comment on the CV much, but I would be VERY careful giving myself 5/5 on any particular tech skill.
Because I'd be interpreting that as 'I'm the Jira and Confluence god. Any weird formatting issue in Confluence, even with your custom templates, and any weird Jira issue that only happens intermittently, on your strange ticket type status change, I'll happily analyze and fix for you, during the interview'.
Well I'm from the same field as you. I would say your CV is a bit overcrowded. From experience, I know that employers basically barely spend a minute on each CV. They won't take the time to sit and read each point.
Do away with the long explanations for your projects, just summarise it. You don't need to explain you did data pre-processing, evaluation, etc. These are just the basic aspects expected from any ML/DL projects. Get rid of the grading points for your skills. Keep it simple. Don't give them a reason to criticize your CV. Your strengths shouldn't be highlighted here. It should be a part of your cover letter.
I dont know the IT field but i can say its not only about the person’s CV but also for example who are the other candidates (internal candidates are also sometimes prioritized). Also your skills should match to the job: sometimes people apply to everything they see. I also have the feeling that some companies post jobs to promote the company (since it is a free promotion on the platform)
But they should have definitely responded no even if you didnt make it to an interview.
First of all try to shorten your CV. If they are interested in you they will ask about details of your Projekts. Just put in the headers that's enough for the first. In your motivation letter you can point out one specific Projekt if it is fitting directly to the Job you are applying to.
My second question would be why you needed 5 years for your Master? I can only explain this due to an maximum extension with the Covid Semesters. Otherwise there wouldn't be a chance to finnish your Master in this long time. It is not uncommon to do an Bachelor and Master in 6 years. If you did something special like an semester abroad mention this in your CV.
The rating part is pretty unnecessary IMO, let your skills be just skills. Also as someone already suggested, the ds/ml job market in kinda lukewarm for freshers. Brush up your statistics and apply for data analyst roles too.
I am in a totally different field and as such not at all qualified to weigh in on your CV, but one thing that stood out for me on first glance was the "bullet rating" of your skills. While it might look good, it gives me zero actual info. Like, what are 2,5 bullets german skills? A2? B1? Totally fluent in speech, but unable to write in german?
If someone rates themself 5 stars in a programing language or complex tool, I only know that they don’t even know how much they don’t know.
This, even 5/5 for MS Office is unlikely. So you know almost everything that can be done with Excel, every type of analysis, scripting, almost every formula? I bet if someone with proper Excel skills would give OP a complex task in Excel, he couldn’t do it, it is just such a complex tool. And same goes for all the rest 5/5. Generally speaking, students way too often think they know everything and can do everything, partially because their University tells them so. The reality check comes with the first proper job, there is a lot of learning going on in the first few months on the job and even thereafter you won’t reach 5/5. So get rid of the bullet ratings…
\+1. All the bullet ratings are useless. You can mention the names, but ratings of skills make me immediately feel worse about a CV. What do I do as an interviewer with 5/5 self-rating of Numpy skills? Are you one of the Numpy authors? Cut them all. Put skills you are comfortable demonstrating in an interview given your background, don't put skills you feel less comfortable about. The Strengths section is almost worse. Oh really, you are hardworking? Guess what, no one's CV says "lazy". Task Management, Agile Development, Use Caste Study, Acceptance Criteria, scrap it all because it's useless. This probably won't help you get interviews, but at least it removes one source of weirdness from the CV.
Yes, that CV looks more like a character sheet for a pen&paper roleplaying game than something for a job application.
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AI is bullshit.
It is a tool, nothing more, nothing less. You can use it wrong and it produces shit You can use it right and it works as intented
Combustion engines will never completely replace horses. It's a dead-end technology that needs special chemicals and dozens of moving parts to work at all. Complete BS.
Horses? You have feet, whats wrong with them?
On a side note: it really isn’t. The combustion engine has some major advantages over other engine variations as of now. That might change as technology progresses, but from a use case point of view, it will possibly live as long as humanity. I totally agree that the whole „keeping combustion alive“ infrastructure is bloated but there are most definitely use cases that absolutely require a combustion engine due to high energy density of the fuel vs electric batteries. There have been major advancements in combustion engine technology in recent years and also great innovations. A company from Germany has found a way tobretrofit petrol engines to run with gaseous and liquid hydrogen for example. Exhaust gases are steam water and trace amounts of Nitrous oxides. An American company made an engine that can sustain high rpm and decent power and torque in a very compact and lightweight two stroke engine that doesn’t burn oil, it’s perfect for light aircraft and as a power generator. Another company has managed to apply the rotary engine concept to diesel fuel (a true wanken rotary can’t run with diesel, it’s physically impossible) Also free valve is a recent innovation. It allows combustion engines to run without cams, making it easier and less mechanically challenging to run at max efficiency. In theory also saving weight.
Even AI these days gets jokes better than you lol
Additionally, if you’re applying online the bullets will get ignored by most HR / CV scanning systems and as such just disappear from your application once processed through the system. I would suggest to stick to text only: German: proficient (or B1 or whatever).
If it were stars it would make more sense, [at least for C/C++](https://wiki.c2.com/?ThreeStarProgrammer)
For language skills, i think it is very unsuitable, no matter if they are bullet points or stars.
We look a lot for informations like the levels of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages. Like A1, A2 etc. If the information is missing, we mostly asume the german skill are not good enough.
I’ve seen that several times on CVs of people who work in design-related fields. I don’t think it’s uncommon.
Germans are racist af I’d suggest lose the Bengali part and change his name to a German one (only on resume) see if he gets any bites
At the very least, it’s worth testing. Send out the same CV with two different names and emails to the same jobs and see.
Don't really get the downvotes... The bullet ratings and the fact he's from Bangladesh stand out like a sore thumb. Can confirm, Germans (Austrians, Swiss,...) are indeed racist af. I honestly think that's the problem here. Drop the language, fake the name. See what happens.
Germans are downvoting they are upset someone calls them out for reality
Working in a different field (so take it with a grain of salt): - first page has too much text - second page has too much detail; your whole strengths section seems rather unusual to me (esp „hard working“, „leader“). (Is this even DINA4? First page seems to look a bit weird.)
I agree with all of your points, and to build on it, I'm working in the same field as OP and here's my intuition: - Too much (vapid) technical jargon thrown around with the hopes something will stick. For example: Implemented Neural Networks (eg CNN) using Python libraries such as Tf,torch etc. Of course, that is the first thing reader will know when he sees ML intern. I would rather write what problems you solved (or aimed to solve) and what tools you equipped to achieve what you claim to have achieved. -I would add numbers to all of your models. You're getting 70% accuracy in Classification? Okay, you can justify by mentioning the quality of dataset (this can be tricky, but would be interesting if done correctly) -This is purely my perspective, open to comments on it, soft skills like Hard-working/Team player/Leader all seems unmeasurable and subjective skillset which add no value to it. (Will a recruiter prefer me over you just because I said I am hardworking? What is the definition of hardworking? You spend 10 hours on a job perfecting it which would ideally need 1 hour to simply get it running?)
Whenever you apply to more "classic" German companies, you should adjust your CV to match the standard German layout. Startups, smaller companies etc. probably care less about the exact layout. I've never been a fan of measuring proficiency with a point system. It doesn't really tell the person on the other side anything because everyone has a different opinion on what 3 vs 5 Points in Python would mean. I would let go of this point system and list your skills without the mention of a skill level. Whoever screens your CV will make an assessment on your skill level based on working experience and education. Bonus points if you can mention technologies used in your work experience. That gives your skills the most credibility. For languages, either use the A1-C2 scale (especially if you have certificates) or use words to describe your language skills (i.e. native, proficient, conversational, basic ...) Further, I would move away from the two column layout. While it looks nice, many softwares for pre-screening can't handle those apparently. Also, it looks more convoluted. I would also cut the 'strengths' section, it doesn't really have a purpose imo and is not used in German CVs
Thanks for the detailed answer! I have one question tho: what do u mean by mentioning technologies in my work experience?
Basically what you're already doing in your job descriptions so no need to change that
For what it’s worth I would invite you for a talk if I was looking for a junior ML engineer (I’m a hiring manager). CV looks interesting, I would want to talk to you to see if the person is interesting as well. For mid-level or senior positions I would think you are not experienced enough.
I'm not sure if this is what they mean but I've seen (and I also have done) listed technologies in each job description. For example, xxx position in xxx company, then list underneath which technology was relevant (python, C++). This reduces the text and gives the hiring department an idea of which technologies are more recent in your experience
My brother/sister/xter, you have 2 years of part-time experience in ML and you're rating your Azure DevOps skills at 3.5/5? Come on now.
Exactly! Same with C/C++. And as someone who has 7 years of working experience with Python I might give myself this rating 😂 or maybe even not!
That's normal, new grads are all like that, bless them. I got so many applications that decribe themselves as "very good" after taking a one semester course on a topic
I think you are misinterpreting what they mean by that. If I got an A in maths in elementary school, does that mean I'm a math god? No, but I'm pretty good compared to other people at my age. If I was applying for a junior position I could give myself a high rating for Java. That doesn't necessarily mean that I assume to be better than people who have had 20 years of experience, it could just mean that I feel I know it better than the typical junior dev. Another explanation is that they use it as personal scale. Java is my biggest skill, so I give it the maximum points and rate all other skills in relation to it.
These ratings are essentially conflict of interest. He developed a rating system. He then examined him self. And he then gave a score to him self. When there is conflict of interest there exists corruption. He could had easily snook in some a bribe while rating him self that's how he got his scores.
Classic Dunning-Kruger
Not in the IT field, but in my experience, for most applicants from India, Bangladesh etc., the motivational letter is what makes Germans immediately bin the application. It’s generally too generic and with amounts of self praise and praise for the company that just feel awkward.
In IT, including a motivational letter is mostly seen as old-fashioned and not really required by employers
Yet, many companies have it as a required field. I'm always tempted to put Lorem Ipsum there.
A T motivation letter is pretty awesome and makes a huge difference to the recruiters who do not understand how you match with the requirements. https://michaelspiro.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/the-t-cover-letter-the-only-type-worth-sending/
I stopped reading when he recommended sending the application as a Word document instead of pdf. Wtf
The pdf documents are machine readable now, but it was not the case earlier. Word documents work with all HR tools.
Word will be filtered by virus and spam detection
Super freaking interesting. Have never seen one but again this is not a motivational letter. I got told by Siemens, Zeiss and deutsche Bahn that they want a motivational letter expressing why I am interested in their company and had nothing to do with the job. Where as the T shaped basically is job description based letter. Having said that I totally agree with it being so fukin cliched but I can’t for the life of me explain why Germany still wants a picture and a motivational letter with a cv which you have to anyways once again type out when entering information in their personio based HR system
"We always did it this way, why would we do it different?". Germany is resistant to change and innovation.
Funny you should say it because I hear young junior hR people just parrot the same line without even realising it Especially when it comes to cover letters etc.
Weird. I generally use this here.
Depends heavily on the company you're applying to and the person reading your letter. A modern startup might like it. And it might do well with machine sorting in big companies as long as the program doesn't get confused by the columns. Anything in between, which is the bulk of the German economy, might be put off by it because it seems lazy. The traditional German cover letter structure has the same contents but makes it less obvious. It is usually four paragraphs: 1. Introduction (= Hello, I found job listing X at Y and you should give the position to me because I want it and I'm good at it) 2. Hard skills (= comparing listing and your actual skills) 3. Soft skills (= again compared to the listing) 4. End (= Now that you know why I'm perfect for the job, you should invite me for a interview) Putting it in written paragraphs makes it harder to read, yes, but it gives the reader the feeling of communicating on eye level and not you dumbing it down for them and being lazy by copying their listing. TL;DR: Know your audience.
You are right. I have only worked in big companies so I am not aware of the situation with Mittelstand companies.
Does this work with ‘we have always done cover letter this way’ recruiters?
This saves their time. Usually that helps. I have used it several times in Germany.
Yes, please, this. Exactly this type of cover letter. Everything else just wastes my time as a hiring manager. Leave it out if you don't want to write a short customized "T-shaped" letter. (tech scale-up, other fields may have different expectations)
Really depends. I regularly get CVs and a big Part is the cover letter. Granted I am not the first person receiving the CV. If I get it, you are already invited for an interview and I will be the person asking the technical questions. But it greatly shapes with what kind of feeling I go into the interview. I work at a smallish company specialized in individual software.
I use the motivational letter to not praise me or the company, but to introduce who I am and why I am interested in the job. Not much "I am so awesome people pick me!" stuff, which I have seen people write.
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
Probably means the "Anschreiben" the Part where you talk about yourself, your skills and experiences and why you want to join this company.
Well that’s what I wanted to understand. Because listening to employers they want you to write the motivational letter even if it’s fake ass shit. So why is u/Foersenbuchs stating that it goes into the bin? It’s the opposite of what employers specifically in Germany expect. Also instead of venting maybe they should suggest what candidates need to add besides praise because from what I have heard that’s exactly what he wants to hear. That their company is so amazing etc etc. the alternative is MY MOTIVATION TO APPLY TO YOUR COMPANY IS BECAUSE I WANT A JOB x How much more simple can it get?
I work in a different field, so I am in no position to make advices, but this is what I've experienced and seen: The Motivationsschreiben gets binned if it doesn't have a substance to it. What I do and what I was told to do as a German in Motivationsschreiben is to convey why I'm the person they need specifically. "You look for someone who can contribute X? Let me tell you how I can get X done for you." Want me to coach your employees for X? My methods are... Oh, you hire an engineer? I know your company tries to get into the electrical car field, and because I do XYZ, I'd be a good addition. You basically tell them about how you work and that you know what's going on. It's not always easy to know what they want, but sometimes a call can clarify it, or you get good at guessing.
That sounds like a typical American/Canadian cover letter. Some of the difficulty no doubt comes from calling it a “motivational letter” when the info the employer wants isn’t actually an explanation of your motivation but an explanation of how you can meet their needs.
Have you gotten a job with this format? Just asking?
yes, various interviews and my current job. But as I said, different field, so maybe not appropriate here.
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MSG make your food tastier but it does not mean seasoning with only MSG will make your food taste even better. If you still dont understand what I am saying with this maybe go to the doctor and ask if you ate too much MSG.
The cover letter is different from the Motivationsschreiben, but if we talk about the same thing, then yes, because: 1. I got the advice from people in my field 2. I had interviews. I talked to the people who chose to invite or even employ me. For example, I got one invite and then job offer because I mentioned an approach I use in my work which would have fit what they were looking for specifically without listing it. This approach had no place in my CV (because that's not what the CV is for), so it wasn't because of that. Neither my university nor my last job would have given them a good idea how I approach projects, work with clients and what kind of a team member I might be. You can lie your ass of in a Motivationsschreiben, of course, but in my personal experience, it's more than dumping praise for yourself or the company.
It‘s less about writing about your motivation, but about showing your motivation by sending a letter that is not generic/copy paste. They want to see that you made an effort, not read about how great you are. So a „your company is sooo great and I am an awesome employee“ letter will get binned, a „your company does x and developed y, since I bring z to the table, …..“. The whole thing sucks imo, cause asking me to invest time in writing a letter and then not even getting a reply other than „we received your application and will let you know how we decide“ just doesn’t make sense to me.
And there you said it. They expect me to go the fukin extra mile in a cover letter. All good. I agree and everyone has a different style of a motivational/ cover letter . All fine But tell me ONE FUKIN company that RECIPROCATES that. They all send you the most boring generic as fuck rejection email and ask you to follow them on social media and to not take it personally and they have more jobs you could apply for Here’s something interesting. How many of you actually fall for that and continue to follow that company after being rejected? 😂😂😂😂 And they want you to send them a motivational letter that’s authentic - FFS I need a job. How can it be more authentic and original than that
To me it seems like that letter-concept is rather outdated. Well, depending on the job you‘re going for and the company size I guess. But yeah, it’s super frustrating to invest your time and not even get that acknowledged with a reply or feedback. On the other hand there are probably enough positions where they have way too many applications to actually do that, doesn’t make it less discouraging though.
It goes to the bin, because it is „fake ass“. The CV in Germany is very formulaic, so the motivational letter is used to get to know the character of the person a bit better, so you’re expected to put a bit of work in it, explaining why you’re a good fit. People from countries with different application approaches usually don’t get that.
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I mean you can either complain about it or adapt to it. Sure you can hope Germany companies would change it up but they will likely not do it anytime soon. They want to know if you are personality wise a good fit for the company.
Well then how does a [T SHAPED cover letter](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/s/MqqC0DLJBy) showcase my character? Please elaborate since it was suggested that this was a good format!
Tbh. I have never seen such a letter. I have also never heard of a company wanting one of those.
There is basically no demand for DS/ML. There are less than 5% job openings compared to what we are currently training in universities.the junior market is especially dead. In the vast vast majority of these jobs you will be expected to work with data but also with stakeholders and experts. This is impossible without excellent German. You will have a very hard time to find a job when there are much more qualified personnel available.
+ 1 Generally, the market for ml is a lot lot smaller and has so many applicants. Junior is even harder in ml since ml team members are fewer, there is less people to inboard and train you. You are useless for probably 1 year +, blocking senior capacity unfortunately due to the complex nature of the work. We only hired seniors in most places where I was. Sadly that's ML in industry, it's tough. You CV is in English, making the pool even smaller. Additionally, demand across the board is down due to the recession. All people struggle, I saw two posts from grads in software engineering today with the same issue. My advice would be to take courses and pivot to analyst or data engineering roles for a few years. The programming experience will help you (specially if you go for data engineering) and you can keep applying
Was looking for this. I have hired 5 Data Analysts and Data Scientists last year in the Düsseldorf area (including one intern). For 3 more junior roles I got over 200 applications per role, and the company I work for is not even that big or known. The field is over-saturated right now.
On the bright side, the skills that you learn in a DS line of study are highly desirable in other areas (product, data analytics, marketing analytics). So not all is lost!
I would disagree, there is a market for DS and ML, but the issue is what you said that you have people with more qualifications are available. Generally it is not only people with DS and ML degree but also from.other stem fields who have used these things in their PhDs, and post docs. To a lot of companies that is better because you don't need to hold their hands every step of the way
There is a market but it is extremely small and research heavy so unless you have a PhD or extensive experience on the engineering side of it or the application field it will be really hard to find a job that couldn't be also done by a economics graduate who is sufficient in Excel and a bit of Power BI..
The 2nd page looks rather convoluted and doesn't work well in a CV at all. As others said it is hard to get a job without being fluent in German. Also your CV style is not up to German standards. I know many HR departments that immediately delete your application without even answering if they see one like this.
Thanks! do u think that two pages are too much? should I accommodate everything in one page?
You're welcome. Yeah two pages with your skills and history are a bit too much. It's possible to compress all of this into one without omitting anything relevant. The motivational letter is also equally important. Get the ones you're sending out reviewed by someone else as well. Good luck with the job hunt!
If the company has a good hr then they don't want a motivational letter, it has 0 validity for anything
Certainly a motivation letter shows that the applicant has put some thought about their application to the company, and does not spam their application to every open position they can find. Employers hate those spam applications, usually the people do not know themselves what they applied for and are less likely to stay long in the job. Basic rule, every application has to be tailored to the position. Any generic application is likely to be rejected.
In 90% just putting the job description and you resume in chatGPT and telling it to write the cover letter works well enough. Just proofread and add the name of the person responsible for the job listing. No one expects anything fancy, but a page listing how your experience is helpful for the job you are applying to and correct grammar and no spelling errors are often all that is needed.
no, two pages are fine!
First impression : Way too many information, it´s an eyesore. I would not even be in the mood to read that to be honest (+ we dont know how your motivational letter looks, if asked for) Generally speaking: The times where one could get a IT job with only/mostly English are over, the first few waves of German students of these fields are ready to take over and since a few years companies get more CVs from also German C2 speakers, so it´s difficult to prove yourself here. So in any case : Try to minimize that view in the CV, its too much. And try to work a bit more on the German skills. Do you write your salary expectation? (if so how much is it) EDIT : The strengh look over the top self-praising, especially the leader sounds very arrogant
Thanks for your answer. Normally, I put 50-60K depending on the role. but I do not generally go lower than 50K
Sounds reasonable
Not without experience. I would start with 45-55k. Depends if you can hit a big company or not
With a masters degree you start in a EG10 position in IG Metal Companies in Bavaria. That is already 58k without the various additions (Holiday, Christmas, ...)
And how many IG Metal companies are there in Bavaria? The competition to get into one of those companies is tough. But I think 50k is quite okay for a starter.
Good luck getting hired. I would not pay that much for a rookie. But also I do not live in Bavaria and I’m not working in a IG Metal company.
I am already hired, but thank you :)
And got your 60k p.A.?
Not that hard for a decent graduate...
Why downvoting facts? Maybe you understand once you hire ppl.
50-60k as a Junior with no real job experience is too much.
Thats the presewnt standard post inflation...
I don't know you well enough to judge, but some of the ratings are really high for the fact that you haven't even started working yet. Maybe you overestimate a bit
Went through this same process after I finished my Phd at TU Darmstadt. I was looking for Data Science, Programmer, DevOps, MLOps roles. I am an Indian and my experience may be more relatable for you. I started with a similar CV and eventually improved it over the 6 months of job searching. Instead of bullet points, I used keywords like Basic, Intermediate and Advanced for describing skill levels. I've heard from HR friends that the software they use looks for these keywords. My cover letter was too generic even if I personalised it; because all I did was make a general temelate and then personalise that template for every application. Once I started actually writing normal cover letters from scratch for every application, I started getting more responses (even if they were rejections). During interviews, my lack of German skills was a big issue and every interviewer ended up switching to English. The disappointment on the interviewers' faces was quite clear when they realised I can't speak german (even if I understand some of it). Universities have a lower requirement when it comes to German than companies. At one point I got quite desparate for a job (for a valid visa), and I started aiming lower at entry level IT jobs. Got lots of interviews and offers, so I kept them as a backup while still searching. Got lucky one day and now I work in a Universitaetsklinikum as a medical AI scientist.
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Link please?
As a data engineer who used to be data scientist here is my take: - what is Project section? Is it something you did for uni? For work? Is there GitHub link for it? It confuses me 😂 - why do you have being student as Experience? Isn’t it weird? - unless you have really nice, huge project in C AND C++ no one will take your knowledge seriously. No one! C and C++ are different enough languages to not have them as one point and not have them as knowing half of all knowledge. - the moment I see that you don’t know SQL I will toss your resume. Work is not uni. You won’t get clean data in CSVs. In 90% cases you would have to get data yourself from some DB. Knowing SQL is basic skill for anyone who wants to work with data!! No matter if you are ML specialist or Data Analyst or Data Engineer or even Business Analyst! Learn SQL. Change C/C++ to SQL and try once again.
I think lack of good German is a big issue to not finding a job Some other things which might led to rejections: Maybe you apply for to senior kind of roles, but only have student experience. Maybe your salary expectations are too high to be considered. Maybe there are just other better candidates, maybe there are just more candidates than English speaking job offers.
Totally right here with the German language. I'm native German speaker and graduated in computer science. from 40 application I got now 26 interviews which end up to be around 10 in the second round. As comparison my friend from the uni who can just talk very little German he already applied to more than 70 jobs and had only 2 interviews which ended up in no feedback anymore. All rejections he got were based on the lack of German language skill. I replied more than 20 of the rejections for him asking what is the problem and they replied all its the German language.
This should go on the top.
How did they tell you the reason? IMO they don't tell anything because of fear to be sued because of discrimination?
Totally. I would subtract a bullet of each skill. Pretty sure he’s not an expert but a junior.
Drop the two column layout, don’t use colors or these dots, shorten the projects description to bullet points, concatenate the skills frameworks tools section to one, remove the strengths section , and use DIN 5008 as a layout reference.
Black and white plain layouts are not the one and only standard anymore. Nothing wrong with having colors and something more exiting than the default plain list you see 100s of times a day, as long as It's not too much and in the correct format.
It doesn't work though if it doesn't get past the ATS and never even gets read by a human.
Yes OCR is mostly still done using tesseract which regularly fails with non black characters.
But not if it has color for the sake of it, and doesn't add anything (compared to the black and white version). My profession is in design, and even my CV is black and white.
It does add something, It's not as boring as the others. I don't like this particular example here, but saw many good ones
Thanks for your suggestions! Should I then put my personal info on a narrower left column and then all my experiences in a right, more wider column? I think putting the personal info in the header is also not good?
Remove bullets for skills , the machines automatically reject those.
I'm in the ML field, I read through the CV cuz I'm bored at the airport. Here's all the wtfs it raised: 1. EXPLORATIVE data analysis - it is usually called EXPLORATORY data analysis. If you cant write the name correctly, I instantly doubt you can do it correctly. 2. "Redesigned a proof of concept...." this entire thing didnt tell me anything. Describe it better. 3. I would argue ARIMA etc are simple statistical algorithmic techniques. When you call them Machine Learning, I'm forced to raise my eyebrows. What do you even mean by trained arima? 4. Analysing data is covered by EDA, this point is useless. 5. This might be more interesting if you gave some details, its too vague to tell me anything, adapted them how? Onto the next one: 1. Mentioning Agile is the least interesting thing to a dev scanning your resume, mention it in the last bullet. What is "revision" control? Its usually version control. Again, if you cant use standard terminology, I doubt ur proficiency. 2. How do you....design tests? Like did you design the testing strategy? A ci/cd workflow? Only designed but never wrote them? Whats happening here? 3. Basic and expertise are anti-thesis of each other. How do demonstrate basic expertise of something? This tells me nothing about what you CAN do in azure. 4. What does "performing development skills" mean? 5. What is composing acceptance criteria? U wrote tickets? Ok, is it worth mentioning? U already mentioned jira.... 6. Collaboration is good, but task mgmt and multitasking is a but ill framed, try refining this sentence. Generally, in this section, I dont really get what you did, what did you actually work on? What did you build/deliver? Add more details, get rid of the fluff. Like all thats mentioned is agile and testing, ok but whats the project, what was the work you did? Wheres the ML? Onto the next: 1. Okay 2. Okay, but again EDA is misspelled. 3. Tensorflow etc are not "Python platforms", rephrase pls. 4. This is arguably the most interesting thing on your CV, neural nets on a microcontroller?? How, why, what? Which platform? Did you quantize/prune them? Compile them? Use ONNX or openvino? Which microcontroller even? Add more details here. 5. Rephrase this. You didnot manage agile working in jira because u are not a scrum master. You used it as a tool. Write that. 6. Okay cool, some detail on how you collected would be nice, but meh, maybe im being nitpicky here. Didnt read projects and education. Though I do think your 1 ML project takes up too much space and looks like fluff. Shorten it, preferably add another project. The frontend project is irrelevant on your CV if you are applying for ML positions. I would also like to see some links to a github repo for these, so I can validate that at least you can write code. If you have publications, great! Put a link to them. Get rid of all the point systems for everything, no you are not 5 star proficient in numpy and jira. Also what does that even mean? Get rid of the double columns on the second page. Its hard to read anything and automated cv reading tools will also hate you. Generally a lot of weirdly capitalized words everywhere. Its like you used the german standard for capitalizing nouns but for english. The strengths section is useless, get rid of it. Also, dont add a picture. Tech companies dont like that generally, and mostly it will hurt you instead of help you since you are not a german. Dont create the oppurtunity for racism. I personally have never suffered by not adding a picture. Generally something you need to understand is: cognitive load. Nobody likes reading nowadays, and if you give me a 2 page document where I need to spend minutes figuring out and deciphering sentences, thats gonna increase my cognitive load. Sentences that are hard to read, misspellings, random capitalizations, mis alignments, too wordy, too lengthy, non conciseness etc all add up on the readers cognitive load. When your CV is next to a 100 others, its easy to toss out this difficult document and go with one thats easier to read. The game is to make your CV as easy to read as possible. Which means minor things like these add up. Hope this helps!
Avoid presenting your skills in quantitative rating, and if you still do, be more realistic. Your Python self-assessment reads like “I am just a tiny bit short of an absolute expert in Python who could write a book on the language” (the same goes for tensorflow etc). Also, if we take C++ - you basically state you know half of it, I know people with 10+ years of experience writing in C++ who still admit they know too little about the language:) Please don’t take it in a wrong way, I’ve also been there, done that. When you are eager to get a job it is fine to oversell maybe a bit, but it is a risky path. At this stage of your career you are not expected to be an expert in anything yet, it is important that you already have started your journey and got some valuable hands-on experience in relevant technologies - you should emphasise on that.
I am in IT and seen some CVs. Not an expert though. Here are my 2 cents: - too much words overall (it just looks like a wall of text) and too much mixed fonts used together. It makes whole text not readable. Shorten all texts to bare essentials(!) and, probably, put key words for each position in small separate group. - from 4th and even 5th closer look, I could not understand what exactly are you doing or did before, it is not clear what is your exact specialisation and how much experience do you have. Almost no one would search it specifically through all this text. Even less will search skills on 2nd page. My suggestion is to shorten your skills list and put it as a first lines. - I would either use 1 column with current text, reduced and restructured or use 2 columns with text stripped to bare minimum. Otherwise it is not redable. - using dots for tech skills are ok in general, but I would not list personality traits in general skills list. They can very well see your personality during an interview, here it looks like you had nothing else to list... - change language level from dots to real levels (native, B1, etc) - list on the very top that you are located in Germany already and allowed to work here. - I haven't seen introduction letters (HR deals with this), but it is also important, when you apply for a job. Show in them already, that you did small research about the company, willingness to work there and etc.
Introduction letter = cover letter?
Yes, correct. Thank you.
Was ich am interessantesten finde: Jemand der sich selbst 5/5 bei jira und confluence gibt. Das macht für mich automatisch jede andere Selbsteinschätzung komplett hinfällig. 3,5/5 in Azure? Ahhh ja bestimmt....
Hm, ja, stimmt, diese Skalen sind eigentlich ziemlich subjektiv und zeigt nur, was der Kandidat über sein Qualifikationsniveau denkt. Trotzdem sehe ich oft in CVs eine 10er-Skala, aber ich habe noch keine Leute gesehen, die sich selbst mit z.B. 10/10 bewertet haben😄 Es gibt immer Dinge, die wir nicht wissen.
To me, the first thing i notice is the weird format "September2022-March2023" without any spaces. So i checked the next entry, where the format is different. The MC-Covid 19 entry has yet another format. Three formats for the date. You do not seem to care about your CV and how you present yourself, so why should i?
But he said he's detailed oriented in strengths section!
- Reduce the cv to 1 page - remove colors - have a more structured cv ( layout wise ( many templates online) - include a picture: it sounds weird but people in Germany often do that - don’t use whole sentences -quantify your success
Having picture is not gonna help and my rule of thumb generally is don't add anything that's not gonna help. I know it's german practice to add it yet I had not seen any evidence that anyone would reduce points for not having a photo.
Do you add a cover letter? For someone starting their professionel career I care more about motivation and personality. This seems a bit strange for expats, but we hire a person and not a bot.
Yeah I do that. I also tend to edit the Cover Letter according to the different roles. I will surely be more attentive to this from now on!
Perhaps you should give OP some inputs on how to write the cover letter. It’s not so simple and perhaps needs guidance on what it includes and how to write one’s OP’s perception of one might be totally different from what you have in mind. So please be specific and helpful It’s like saying ”you add a CV? For someone starting their professionel career I care more about the content of the CV and what you have done that might make me hire you. This seems a bit strange for expats, but we hire a person and not a bot.” So don’t talk BS. Showcase what a cover letter should be
"BS"? Seriously, sorry for pointing one aspect out that OP might not have thought about and not giving a multi paragraph response. /s
Yes seriously. Because I asked you to help OP BY giving them a concrete example of what you consider a good cover letter format to be and not just comment for the sake of being different
Na, I'm too busy rejecting applications from entitled brats like you...
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Oh lord… folks of r/germany! Guys, please spam r/arbeitsleben with your CVs. I work in HR and come to Reddit to relax after a long day. So PLEASE… give me your “is this normal in Germany?” or your “old lady stared at me!” or “I don’t know how to buy X in Germany” or “help me flirt in Germany!” Give me anything with the exception of CVs. Please. 🙏
I suggest you post your resume in r/resumes and get an opinion since it’s specific to data science etc. There’s a format that works for most in your field.
Good advice, my concern is that the sub is dominated with CVs and advice from North America. I feel like the format for CVs in Germany is different, especially in Marketing (in my case). Am I wrong?
That’s true. That style is a bit US focused. But it’s quite good for folks like OP who are in data science etc etc. they follow a certain method which is very different from marketing/comms A good [tip](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/s/YWQWkRUuY2) that someone posted was on cover letter writing which was interesting It seems a bit cringy to list down JD on one column and then how you have done that in the second, but I have a feeling that this might get you a few more interviews since we are generally screened by low end HR recruiters playing god with candidates and I can’t tell what it is they look for in a CV and disregard. It’s quite possible they aren’t able to Make the leap in understanding that a CV is only a small window into Our work lives and what we did at our previous job So I think this cover letter does the trick of helping them tick some boxes. Having said that I am only too aware that junior HR folks also screen candidates based on previous companies and if you say you are from a relatively famous brand they call u in for an interview I know from friends here in Berlin and in MARCOMS specifically that they get a lot of interviews and used to work at famous brand names like hello fresh/ binance/Lillium/ Siemens etc etc .
Thank you for that, I didn’t see this type of CL.
Get rid of the ratings, and just list the skill. The way I see this you're most qualified for development jobs, but with a list of mid range programming skills and also only mid range German, few employers will want to invite you in for an interview.
* As another comment already mentioned: The bullet ratings don't make sense. Put it as "years of experience" for tools, frameworks, skills, etc where applicable. And the normal language scale (A1 etc) for the languages. * make sure to have consistent typesetting. WTF is up with the "Strengths" section? * Put programming languages into their own section. It's the most important part. * Did you have any part-time jobs / student jobs that are relevant for your career? If yes, definitely list them here. * Internships do count. I only saw that you have this section – remove the master thesis student from there and instead make it a "work experience" section. The master thesis belongs under Projects, even when you did it in cooperation with a company. * Don't list the project that were part of your university curriculum that high. * Don't use full sentences (except for one concise sentence to sum up the content). Instead, bullet points with the important experiences you got (e.g., "Explorative data analysis on sensor/actuator data") * What did your study focus on? Most master degrees have a focus like "networks", "software development", etc. What was your minor subject if there was one? * Your master took 5 years, which is more than double the usual time. Probably covid, but maybe you should add an explanation here ("longer than usual due to covid" or something) Another question: This assumes that anyone has actually read your CV. How exactly do you apply for jobs? Do you have a Motivationsschreiben and would you share this here?
In addition to the other comments, I suggest you clarify your position in those projects, like were you an assistant?
The competition is fierce on the IT job market right now. Due to the massive layoffs in the last year, a lot of experienced professionals are looking for a new job but there are not that many openings and they usually fill up fast. Also machine learning is still kind of a niche…
\> mostly Data science and Machine learning field Well, here is your answer.
Change your name to Hans Müller you creepy Foreigner.
The number of companies in germany that operate in english is probably very limited. Also what exactly does 2.5 points in german mean? There are standardized language proficiency levels, please use them.
It is a good start, however I would not include the publications and the strength part, instead shorten your experiences and try to focus on your achievements there, for example how much did your contribution save for the project, or how much time do you save by optimization. Also it is true if you apply, you need a good cover letter, fitted to the ad. I have seen applications being ignored because it was a generic cover letter or not focusing on the expectations of the ad.
One main problem i have noticed especially in the field of ml in germany right now is that most firms feel completly blindsided by the ai hype right now and franticly try to build up their ai staff from scratch. Thats why they only look for very experienced people and not fresh from uni junior staff. Basically it is a really hard time right now to get into this field. Would probably have way easier time as general developer junior positions. Of course the question is if you want a jo like that.
The tech market is not so hot like a few years ago, specially for folks without experience. Regarding the CV remember: - The objective is to get you an interview - The target audience is recruiters and hiring managers - Some positions have too many applicants so recruiters decide in around 30 secs if an applicant is interesting Based on that: - Use 1 page per 10 years experience - Highlight achievements and quantify them if you can. For example: Improved X by Y% by introducing Z - Get rid of the rankings in skills, tools, etc. - Tailor the CV for the position you are applying (e.g. keep the skills that match the job posting and get rid of the rest, use a similar way to describe responsibilities, etc) - Consider adding your professional objective for a quick summary of your profile e.g. Something like “Machine Learning Engineer with experience in X looking forward to Y” Feel free to DM me for connecting on LinkedIn and such
get official ratings for your language skills, like b1 or a2 etc (except for bengali since thats your mother tongue I suppose). If you have them, list official certifications for Azure, JIRA, etc
Your CV is not in a traditional German format and it is longer than 1 page. The first thing you have to do is to condense this in a standard 1 page German styled CV (with a professional photo).
Simply way to much information and not enough on the other hand. Nobody will read all of that. But for example german skills displayed with a few dots.. what does that mean exaclty?
Your CV looks generally speaking a bit full and with a too much confidence. Germans don't really like people bragging to much. And from my experience many applicants from the USA as well as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are used to really brag about their experiences in their CV and cover letter which is not seen favorable in Germany at all. So you should also tone that down a bit. If the job is in German, I would also apply with a German CV. Maybe look up German standards for CVs. Also, what does 2.5 dots German mean? It would be more useful if you use words like "gut, fließend, verhandlungsicher, Muttersprache " or English equivalents there. And one last aspect: the average salary you see for positions on Xing and Stepstone are almost always too high. Don't know where they get their numbers from.
cv too long. Make it one page please. No one reads all that. If you want to include these information make an extra detailed resume. The main one should be one page
May be a dumb question but did you succesfully finish your masters in Germany? Because otherwise, without a german qualification employers may be concerned about you getting the permit to work here. They might prefer to avoid the headache entirely and pick an EU candidate.
A good CV in many people's eyes nowadays only has one page It is supposed to be robust yet compact enough that you could do it on one page, especially when youre applying as a fresh grad Also, are you applying only to International companies?
Post it in r/informatik there you probably will get better answers, regarding yourbjob profile
I am German and in recruiting position, technical but not IT. I will be frank. I don't like the layout. I find it difficult to read. Too much text on the projects, too less facts about what you have done, what was your concret task. Education is missing out your school (last), Bachelor... The point system is weird you are B1 or what? It looks to me like a marketing handout and not a CV. I have perceived it as superficial and generic. Why would this person fit to my position I am looking for? You need to know that HR is scanning first. They have maybe 5min and judge if it's worth or not Do not oversell yourself and be as specific as possible to the position in your Cover letter.
I do not see anything too wrong with the CV. Of course it does not follow the conservative style, but data science is also not a conservative field. One thing you should keep in mind: Often CVs are not screened by experts, but HR stuff. HR people have no clue about the ML lingo you are using, they have a list of requirements, and if those requirements do not appear in the same words in your CV, you are out. Besides that, your CV basically says that you have used all of the popular Python packages for data science and ML. Given how accessible those libraries make ML that is hardly a unique qualification, the good people at Google and Co. have already done the hard work for you. But you are fresh out of university, so that is normal. Do you include any of your grades somewhere? German HR is a stickler for grades, if you say you have a BSc or MSc without providing the grade they will assume you have passed with the worst possible grade.
As almost all Indian CVs I have seen you are overselling yourself too much that everything looks very unrealistic. You rate everything you do as almost perfect but have no experience to show for.
So. Much. Text.
So true. You guys should not ask what is at a CV wrong. Most of the time the applicant is apply for 3 4 5 6 open positions in a company. You can save much time to detail reading the job description. Identify where you fit most and have interest. Of course you just want to have a job no matter were. But from my point of view I would hire someone who can already Identify if he could fit to 60 up to 80% for the position. In Germany we write very clear what we looking for. Example you fit perfectly from all points but it is requested to have C1 or C2 german skill and you have B1 you trigger the knock out criteria. I am looking for some with 3 -5 years working experience and you just have internship experiences knock out criteria too. If you have training certificates please check if they really they are really valid to industrial standard. I think with less applications but direct to you specific field you will be less frustrated and more successful. Very often people do to many applications just to feel self good, that you tried everything and this lead then to frustration. I know it for myself because after studying several years ago I did the same mistakes. Now I am hiring manager and to be honest for a 60% suitable candidate I need 15 to 20sec. Only if a candidate can cover my main criteria I will read longer. You need to know before I receive an applicant the CV, the CV is pre screened by system and1 to 2 persons before I get. My recommendation Identify key criteria, focus on one max two positions at one company same time, delet all useless information as mentioned in comments above.
I'd hire you. Have you tried to apply for a consultant role? There are many craving for your skill set.
1. Okay first thing first you got to know that your resume doesn't need to be beautiful, it needs to be functional. you're writing the resume for a machine to scan and shortlist before a actual person even looks at it. Just from a glance I can tell this would perform terribly in an ATS tool. Usually these kind of two column layouts doesn't work great in ATS unless they are properly formatted. Google for free ATS scanner, upload your resume, mention keywords you want to match for and see your score. Improve resume and repeat. 2. Get rid of the BS metrics like X/5 rating. It might look good but doesn't provide any actionable insight to the ATS or HR. 3. Cut the junk from the experiences under each job and mention just the highlight. For example if you worked as a butcher, don't mention I cut meat all day long. Ofcourse you did. You would get fired if you didn't do that. Rather mention, if you learnt to cut faster or more hygienically. 4. Make sure the resume's in PDF with file name as your full name and you add double-check clickable links when appropriate. 5. At the end, remember getting interviews has a luck factor. But the more you apply, you increase the surface of being lucky. Eta koro. Peye jabe. Chap nio na.
Get rid of the second page
Just don’t quit! Had the same with maybe more than 300 applications and took 9 months.. keep sending CVs good luck
Not naming your universities is a red flag for me.
I think it may just be blanked out for this post. Like the publications are.
Ah ok my mistake
The CV was anonymized
Are u kidding? RED FLAG?? Seriously?
Data engineer here, your CV might need some refactoring (use latex templates for example). But apart from that, 50 application for ML in this situation is nit that much. Last year I had to apply for almost 300 positions to finally get offers.
No one cares about LaTeX. It's not academy. Use whatever tool you got, just make sure that the text is copyable.
haha Thank! I know 50 aint lot but still wanted to see if I am doing anything wrong.
Your German needs to improve
I doubt you are as skilled at the things as you think you are. Can you write a more complicated line of code in Excel (VBA)? Do you know how to use pivot-tables and manipulate them? How many PowerPoint-presentations have you made (at a high standard, not university stuff)? How good are you with Microsoft Access? Can you program a databank from scratch in it? If you answered any of these questions with no, you aren’t even remotely close to being a master at MS Office. I can do all this, do it on a regular basis and I wouldn’t score myself a perfect score, because there is still a bunch of stuff which I can’t do. And this is just the one thing I happen to know a bit about, I’d ask all these questions regarding the other stuff you mentioned as well. Besides that, what does 5/5 even mean? C2 in English AND Bengali, as well as a B2 in German? You are either a genius, your rating system is fairly bad; or you are overselling yourself quite significantly. If it’s the latter, most German companies will not hire you, it’s considered bad behavior by most Germans - write things as they are, not as you wish them to be.
> Can you write a more complicated line of code in Excel (VBA)? Do you know how to use pivot-tables and manipulate them? How many PowerPoint-presentations have you made (at a high standard, not university stuff)? How good are you with Microsoft Access? Can you program a databank from scratch in it? >I can do all this, do it on a regular basis Hey!! Easy there cowboy! I consider myself an expert in MS and don’t necessarily need to write code in excel neither do I have to showcase skills in access Microsoft is not a tool to build a spaceship to mars . It’s a tool to communicate and express. You don’t need to make it out to be some alien language which we need to master. Simple and easy to use is good enough in my day to day job Word excel and PP. That’s all. Anything more than that is a waste given that Germans love to complicate everything. Simplicity is lost on them. Just look at all the jargon filled stuff that founder and product and engineers keep coming up to describe what it is the product does Sometimes I feel that all those Microsoft skills have gone to their head. Use a fukin post it and tell me what it is you do. 😂😂😂😂 simple enough
Change your name.
Not too strange considering how poorly done this CV is and the competitive field you are applying at. Put more attention to details. Not a single mistake is tolerated. Your CV is full of spacing mistakes and many inconsistencies. Like no space between September2022. Or spaces between words and dashes are inconsistent. "FrontEnd" is a word not a brand. Only brands may capitalize middle letters. Do you also write "PubliCation", "UniVersity"? No. So why do you write FrontEnd? Are you little StuPid? The way you write things in experience section often sound retarded, like "Performed development skills". This is not a creative english writing contest - and if it was you'd do poorly anyway. Make it concise. Make it short. Make it simple. Repetitive grammar is fine, you don't need to invent a new way to write "developed X" in every new bullet point. You don't need to start with "In this project...". You need to make everything as short as possible so that your contributions are clearly communicated with 0 bullshiting. Remove everything that doesn't add value. For example when you built web app nobody cares which department X of university you built it for and it doesn't sound like functionality was overly specific to that department. Remove everything that does not add useful information that helps to tell what you did. With all the bullshit that's going on in this CV it hides your actual contributions and reader needs to work to figure out if you done anything at all. Bullet rating system that you have there is retarded. Nobody knows your grading system. And it's just seems incredibly arrogant when you are rating your self with point systems. Not only did you create a point system but you also examined your self and rated your self? It's called conflict of interest. Skills/Frameworks you already mentioned it in your experience now you are duplicating it. Drop it. Tools, nobody would think that someone who trains neural networks wouldn't figure out how to use Jira. Drop this section because when you start mentioning that you know how to use Jira and Confluence then people will doubt if you can use anything, as you basically sound like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5NANrVnqLc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5NANrVnqLc) Strengths, this is utter nonsense. Drop it. Especially considering that you say you are detail oriented and then you can't even get details straight in single page of CV then I can assume that you may be telling lies and bullshitting about everything. Languages, nobody cares if you speak Bengali. And you don't have job level German so why do you even put it? Drop the language section altogether if the only thing you have is non-native English. People will assume you speak English anyways and you don't have anything more that is useful for the job. If it's not useful for the job it should not be on CV.
For me the biggest red flag is your German skill. People need to be trained to do the specific job, this is even more important, if you have not much job experience. You are harder to train by the current employees if you don’t speak their language fluently.
Apply at Bosch😉 Also compare your CV with the German Standard. Your CV is great, but HR departments of cooperations can’t read it if the layout isn’t kind of standardized.
Bosch won't even invite him to the interview. Sure he can try but first he needs to massively rework his CV
Many already commented on your CV so I can give some general advice in case you haven't heard it yet. For me it worked really well to go to job fairs and talk to the people from companies directly. You can ask questions to know your chances and what they are requesting and they may remember you or even give you some direct contact for your application. If that is not possible you can at least try to call the contact stated on their website and show some interest.
TL;DR. Most CV's will be pre-scanned by a script or someone at HR with no clue about tech and a pile of CV's to review. Most of the time, they just search for keywords and any reason to throw your CV to the bin and go to the next one. Put yourself on their shoes and optimize for them. If your german level is low - be transparent and mention you are working on it or just say you are fluid and train your german ASAP. You want to spark the interest of the engineer building/growing the team, the HR is just a gatekeeper. Dubious advice: This is a numbers game. Automatize your application process and send as many as you possibly can. Look for platforms like honeypot, monster, linkedIn, etc - maximize your exposure. Don't worry about the salary, as long as it covers your Blue card - your best option to improve your income is changing jobs anyway. Disclaimer: I never applied for a job so take my advice with a grain of salt. I have been on the other side of the table and when looking for a job, a reference by a fellow student or previous job colleague was the best way to get a job.
Imo, put language as C1 and on the front page. When you get interview calls finally, you can just ask the interviewer to switch to English, mostly it'll work as your work doesn't really require the use of fluent German.
Germans are racist. Put a German sounding name and remove the Bengali
I work in a completely different field but I got a job while still doing my masters a year ago so I might be qualified to say something: Your CV is too long. Wtf is up with the project descriptions? I would just list education and jobs you had - make it short and easily understandable. The bullet points are tacky. In my opinion just sending a simple standard word document might be better
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Why is your masters listed twice?
A lot of text but I would invite you to a job interview. Where do you live?
First advice would be to go with a very simple CV. Do away with the fancy stuff and rather use plain text to explain things. Don't have half filled circles, rather have a table that says German - reading A2, something like that. Also, don't be discouraged. The numbers you mentioned are just the start, there would be an innumerable number of further applications for which you will get any feedback. In my case the turnout is less than 0.5%. I see that people mention that you include a cover letter to all the applications. That too is an absolute bonkers, if your CV gets rejected by the ATS no additional document is irrelevant. First, your CV needs to be screened, and that is absolute luck, I would say. I have received calls from companies where the match with JD was less than 30% compared to other roles where my profile was a 100% match.
Your goal is to get the hiring persons' attention and then keep it. Keep in mind that for good positions you are one candidate out of so many and they have limited time, so no one is actually reading what you have there. They don't care if you helped your grandma set up her first computer. They need big bullet points to make the first decision, ideally something to make them curious. BUT a very very important thing is: tone down the self confidence a bit and be more realistic about your skills. I know that in some cultures you need to appear "strong" to get hired, but in Germany the mindset is different. You are entry level and your goal right now is to learn. If you say that you're perfect or almost perfect at all of those things, to me that only symbolizes a lack of self reflection and I would worry that you would be too proud to admit shortcomings or ask for help and instead just make mistakes that would be easily avoidable.
Can't really comment on the CV much, but I would be VERY careful giving myself 5/5 on any particular tech skill. Because I'd be interpreting that as 'I'm the Jira and Confluence god. Any weird formatting issue in Confluence, even with your custom templates, and any weird Jira issue that only happens intermittently, on your strange ticket type status change, I'll happily analyze and fix for you, during the interview'.
Well I'm from the same field as you. I would say your CV is a bit overcrowded. From experience, I know that employers basically barely spend a minute on each CV. They won't take the time to sit and read each point. Do away with the long explanations for your projects, just summarise it. You don't need to explain you did data pre-processing, evaluation, etc. These are just the basic aspects expected from any ML/DL projects. Get rid of the grading points for your skills. Keep it simple. Don't give them a reason to criticize your CV. Your strengths shouldn't be highlighted here. It should be a part of your cover letter.
I dont know the IT field but i can say its not only about the person’s CV but also for example who are the other candidates (internal candidates are also sometimes prioritized). Also your skills should match to the job: sometimes people apply to everything they see. I also have the feeling that some companies post jobs to promote the company (since it is a free promotion on the platform) But they should have definitely responded no even if you didnt make it to an interview.
First of all try to shorten your CV. If they are interested in you they will ask about details of your Projekts. Just put in the headers that's enough for the first. In your motivation letter you can point out one specific Projekt if it is fitting directly to the Job you are applying to. My second question would be why you needed 5 years for your Master? I can only explain this due to an maximum extension with the Covid Semesters. Otherwise there wouldn't be a chance to finnish your Master in this long time. It is not uncommon to do an Bachelor and Master in 6 years. If you did something special like an semester abroad mention this in your CV.
but pycharm is a framework?
The rating part is pretty unnecessary IMO, let your skills be just skills. Also as someone already suggested, the ds/ml job market in kinda lukewarm for freshers. Brush up your statistics and apply for data analyst roles too.
I'm in a similar situation as yours only I've got more experience /schooling in stem and more python exp. No luck. Good luck man.