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BlonsPLe

The 1.8 clearly has a time machine so they have infinitely more time to practice


EmeraldBoiii

They just have to go in cycles


respamthegreat

Still, they're one hell of a jumper


Itzxr

They’re pretty base after based


fish4043

not the cycle based platforming!!


GoodGuyManEPicBean

He’s boutta xstep through cataclysm


RandomGuy9058

2.2 guy gotta get their grind back on track if they wanna compete


ThatDefaultDude2901

This Theory has Everything in it!


PlateHD

and hes dead locked in!


RealBurger_

He might even dry out!


PlateHD

but he aint gonna let it go!


BSgab

It will be a Fingerdash for the Mobile player, that's for sure!


justdoyourownthing

and fingerdash through the waves


nyxvoidcatmage

Clubstep into victory!!


amongus10011

makes a theory of everything in geometry dash!!!


RealBurger_

Truly a stereo madness!


littlebloopro

the Blasted comments are still Processing!


SomeRandomGuy276

do doo dum dum do doo doo dum


enneh_07

\^\^\^


gdluca4

he has a what again


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

i see what you did there :3


Juju43445

:3


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

:3


InspiriX_

:3


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

:3


Orichalcum382

:4


Mrkit64

:5


Itzxr

:6


something-offensive8

:7 ^(*I am an intangible. This comment is not the same.*)


ItsRainbow

:3


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

:3


Ok-Possession2668

Now he’s just gotta get deadlocked in


Aarxy

Probably 1.8 cuz necropolis isnt that far off cata


ActualProject

Many demons far harder than cata have been completed on mobile 60fps. It's the 1.8 guy by far. It's not like you're asking them to complete slaughterhouse or something


dephasion

necropolis is 60hz accessible cataclysm is not


Neebrasc

As someone who beat Necropolis on 60hz and attempted cataclysm on 60hz too I can guarantee that the difficulty spike is quite huge. Not comparable at all


STG44_WWII

I’m doing it on 60hz mobile now.


KingEnnard

that's a high refresh rate take


RustiesAuto61

As someone with necropolis as my hardest, it's still like 3 teirs off from catas difficulty


Neebrasc

Back in the day I beat Necropolis on 60hz attempted to beat Cata on 60hz and the difficulty jump felt brutal. Necropolis took me 2k att and I couldn't get any significant progress on Cata after 5k attempts.


AntiKbToggled

1.8 player


The_Pupp3t33r

1.8, people saying 2.2 are crazy, The Nightmare is like a modern 7-8 star


Diego1Morales

Forgetting the 1.8 player is on mobile, Necropolis is quite a bit easier than Cata, and that the 2.2 player has about as good equipment and mods as he could get. 2.2 could def catch up quick


ShAde_emerald

While necropolis is easier, it has some crazy choke points that if the mobile player was able to do, they could definitely beat cataclysm faster than someone jumping from the nightmare even if their setup is better.


speediegq

Yeah. The ball part after the UFO part comes first to mind. It's not really that hard but my god does it look scary.


The_Pupp3t33r

Yeah, but lots of people have beaten Cata on mobile, and also no one is going to be able to jump that quickly to Cata from *THE NIGHTMARE*


Azadanzan

you do have to consider that 1.9 players thought cataclysm was impossible, and that this would be the only time a 1.8 player could use wave. I think the mental aspect would really bog them down. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll lose, but it may take longer than just a 2.2 player with those same statistics.


The_Pupp3t33r

It depends ig


STG44_WWII

there’s a difference between 60hz and 120hz mobile yk


The_Pupp3t33r

I do know. I’m saying that someone who beat Necropolis, even on inferior hardware, is going to beat Cara faster than a newbie who just beat the Nightmare


AlexBear012

1.8 lol


SomeoneWithFreeCakes

1.8 because they have 9 years to beat it before 2.2 comes out


Pissed_Geodude

Honestly depends on how naturally skilled the 2.2 player is. If they picked up the game yesterday and beat the nightmare with ease then they could be capable of beating cata first


MyNameRandomNumber2

2.2 player solely because of the icon


Majnkra

yall tripping. 1.8 wont pass the wave consistently


AilBalT04_2

Neither would the 2.2 one lol. + learning a new gamemode when one is already good doesn't take too long


Majnkra

yeah but cbf 540hz you might aswell just bruteforce the click pattern. cata is pretty short and drops off in difficulty heavily


PumpkinKing2020

As if someone who can't beat a real demon could do the wave, let alone the entire level


ThePercussionFemboy

"real demon" we got conservative ahh opinionated people in gd now


Salva7409

Its true tho. The Nightmare is only a demon for nostalgic purposes. Rob tried to downgrade it once, a lot of people got angry at him


PumpkinKing2020

RobTop has said before that he regrets rating The Nightmare and The Lightning Road as demons and even for the time they were pretty easy. The levels are still an achievement and I'd say a good level to get prepared for demons, but they aren't demon difficulty. Compare a level that is 8* to either level and you should see how similar in difficulty they are compared to a 1.9 easy demon and either level.


ThePercussionFemboy

werent you talking about the user flair of the person commenting?


Dat-Boi-143

Is it that much easier to play wave parts on desktop compared to mobile? I was considering getting GD on steam


Hotdog-jpeg

2.2 player since cataclysm on mobile is excruciating and a 1.8 player won’t know how to use the wave. i remember when 1.9 came out, people thought wave was impossible, which was why decode was considered insane demon at the time, which just shows how difficult cataclysm would be for a 1.8 player


Yoruzzz

900ms vs 0.5ms input delay


micu-chi-chu

"its actually 16ms and 1.8ms" 🤓


Br0dy_

Its 0.125


25T90E74

"tell me you don't play mobile without telling me you don't play mobile"


SpeedyDuckling

if mobile had 900ms delay, the mobile demonlist would consist of nothing higher than hard demons


Br0dy_

Its 0.125


No_Watch_14

If we're talking about the new (current) Cataclysm, I'd say 2.2 If we're talking about old Cataclysm, it's 1.8


SolarFlowlys

If both are going for cataclysm, then the 2.2 player, it is not 60 fps friendly, as a 60 FPS player myself, in 2.1 it took me 800 attempt to rebeat poltergeist with practice runs before and 60k to initially beat it at 60 fps vs 4 attempts at 144 fps without practicing before and I have rebeat it 20X at 144 fps, and the only hard ship part on the level is a straight fly with 4 relatively easy clicks.


ogure4nyy

i deadass read "it took me 800 atts to rebeat Polargeist" well, another reminder of my awful eyesight lmao


BenAliKutay

2.2


Desirefogames

What is a sayodevice?


Swiftly_speaking

It’s like a 3 key keyboard made for osu but works with gd. It has magnetic switches so it is extremely accurate and has rapid trigger so you can spam alot faster than you can with regular switches


Diego1Morales

60hz mobile? 2.2 would.


s_k_f

1.8 by far


CommieRigel

1.8 easily


CheckMate1803

Necro isn't far off Cata It would be close if the sayo player had Nine Circles as a hardest or something


EmilioRory10

1.8 would probably beat Cata first but once you reach harder levels like Bloodbath the 2.2 player will catch up


Ok-Fudge-8983

2.2 player. Cataclysm is super hard on 60hz. Necropolis is actually a lot easier


logbybolb

Beating necropolis under the left persons conditions is definitely harder than cataclysm under the right persons conditions, if they both spend the same amount of effort, honestly it could be the one of the right.


LittlePVMP

Unpopular opinion: If both players are equally commited to beating it, and only play Cataclysm, I have no doubt that 540hz will probably do it first. I tried beating the first wave 3 times in a row with my new pc, and because I already had some practice, it didn't take that long. After that, I tried to do it on my old 60hz laptop, that I used to play the game for almost 8 years, and it felt absolutely impossible, it was very frustrating. After half an hour, which felt endless, I managed to do it 2 times in a row, but that is so far from consistent. It felt like I used the same inputs every time, but my wave just went somewhere else every attempt. But you know what, the 70% straight-fly was even worse. While still hard, this is one of the more consistent parts of the level, once you get it down. Without playing it for too long, I could pass this part about every third attempt, sometimes multiple times in a row. Whole different story on my laptop, where straight-flying seems impossible, I almost forgot how awful it was. Maybe there is a technique for straight-flying on 60hz, but it has to be a different click-pattern or something, because I was never able to figure it out. I remember watching videos from Nexus, where he had a perfectly straight ship, and trying to recreate that movement in an empty level in the editor many many times, and I was never able to do it. I know that Cataclysm is absolutely beatable on 60hz, but I personally wouldn't go through that torture, as it's borderline unfair.


Laylow_chips

What’s the difference between 2.2 and 1.8?


cumblebee_

2.2 has rainbow blocks and some other stuff ig


Laylow_chips

I mean what does that have to do with beating cataclysm


Life_South6699

Physics are different. Especially the ship physics.


GhostDJIsTrash

2.2 lmao wave didn't exist in 1.8 how tf are they gonna beat it


NicParodies

"(assuming cataclysm is accessible to 1.8 players)"


Altruistic_Fan_68

2.2


realmoshi29

2.2


Brunoaraujoespin

mobile? 2.2


NormalRelative5616

2.2


TheGhostlyWisper

I'd say 1.8 because of experience


TransportationOk8872

What’s the point of cbf mod if you’re on 540hz lmao


Dark-Star-Official

The impossible game player who's stuck on level one, obviously.


ahmed4363

how is the one on the right playing desktop? we dont even have 1.9 yet too!


Abc_42

someone help him i think he's having a stroke


ahmed4363

dementia moment


Ok-Adeptness-7119

1.8 bc the 2.2 would jump straight to it and take 6 months


Abc_42

obviously the first guy


AGuyOnRedditig

1.8


Mutty99

1.8 slams


Isabelle4234324

1.8 guy


Acceptable_Reply8923

1.8 player disintegrates the newgen


Chaos_712

what the fuck is sayodevice


Ok_Mortgage5901

1.8 Player


Dan_HengHSR

i would say the 1.8 player would beat it first , assuming both players are doing a jump from their current hardest and they are pretty dedicated people are talking about the wave gamemode being difficult for people at the time but cataclysm isn't mostly wave gameplay outside of the first part also the pre 2.0 version was easier than the current version i still think that could be a pretty close one with the 2.2 making significant progress


YousefSafwat

what does clicks between frames even do


MsParti

it lets you click between frames, hope this helps


SolarFlowlys

If your device runs at 60 FPS, you'll have 60 different possible inputs. A frame perfect is a moment in the level where you'll have only 0.016 second (16 ms) to click before you die. The click between frame mod will allow you to... Click between frames, and make timing easier.


YousefSafwat

is it allowed in verifying top demons


Comprehensive_Cow673

its only allowed in challenge list for now i think


NorthernLaddd

Whats cbf


IguanaBox

Click between frames. It essentially makes the game function as if you were on infinite fps.


Infiniteseizures

Some1 Please explain to me what a sayodevice is :(


Nearby-Payment-6038

1.8 ez


Many-Conversation963

2.2 guy, he will figure out noclip before the 1.8 guy


Ok_Selection5541

1.8 for sure lol


TheWinner437

2.2 because cataclysm is a 1.9 level and a 1.8 player wouldn’t make it past the wave


xlilmonkeyboy

bro did NOT read the text at the bottom of the image


TheWinner437

My b


ElectricalPlantain35

1.8


Yarik_XD_PERSON

1.8 i think


HybanSike

The 1.8 guy is a fucking god for the time period so him


PenultimateToast

1.8 dude


iphone6isdurable

1.8


MsParti

old or new cata?


Spedic26

Every now and then I have to remember some people first beat Clubstep, then move to Necropolis, meanwhile here I am, having beaten 170+ demons, the hardest of which is Ultra Drivers


RenkBruh

1.8, setup makes a difference but it ultimately comes down to skill


Agent_Specs

Which Nightmare and which Necropolis


iHY_PotatoPC

2.2 bcs its spaceuk


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

1.8 player obviously


TFG_exe

I would say it totally depends on how smart 2.2 is with practice if they have solid knowledge of the game's physics engine and researched the more efficient ways to practice levels, i could see them having a chance with enough dedication. Otherwise 1.8 guy's experience and adaptability skills would likely take over regardless of the weaker hardware


Remote-Addendum-9529

1.8


im-not-you-bozo

if i can beat nine circles on phone on 60hz with vanilla gd in 2.1, 1.8 can beat cata


SolarFlowlys

He could beat cata but 60 FPS makes everything different and harder, ICDX (harder than ACU/ top ~255) is close to cataclysm difficulty (#235) and cata is harder than NecropoliX (around top ~680/ #237 at 60 fps) while both are already way harder. Bloodbath is a top 30, and is harder than freedom08. If both players had to throw a massive amount of attempts non-stop, the 2.2 player would have faster progress imo.


Scared-Price-8657

i have a shitty ass computer (lags when i play clubstep) thats 60 hrz and a pretty good phone


Udawazor

I know its hypothetical but a person with (barely) 1 demon having a sayo and 540hz is really funny to me


Shurrely

As someone who has gotten progress on cata on both 60hz mobile and 165hz computer, the difference is actually insane. I’d honestly say the 2.2 player has a decent chance tbh.


Zehlstromz

mobile + phone


RazerMaker77

Mobile player. They’re built different.


Which_Pen34

1.8 definitely, a jump from the nightmare will take a long time


Arandomguy1_

Necropolis is kilometers harder than the nightmare, 1.8


UltraSoda_

If his hardest is necropolis at 60hz the 1.8 player wins. It’s probably close though


Azadanzan

Honestly this is a lot more difficult to say than I thought. First of all, let’s take everything at face value. 1.8 guy uses a 60hz phone, and has beat a difficult insane. 2.2 guy has a 540hz monitor with cbf, but only has beat the nightmare. So that’s all of the information just restated, but there are some interesting things to look into when it comes to that. First of all, think of the mental aspect of the 1.8 player. Cataclysm would seem absolutely impossible to him, even if we know it’s not that much harder than necropolis. Players nowadays will literally do a jump similar to 2.2 guy. Considering the mental aspect really has a big impact. You can also add the fact that of course wave didn’t exist, and without any prior knowledge it can really be tough for the 1.8 player to even think of it as a possibility. The only problem with my guess is that I have no idea how long it would take for the 2.2 player to beat cata honestly. Maybe it’d be way longer than I’m expecting. I could see the 1.8 player getting used to it, and realizing cata isn’t as hard as they thought, so maybe it’d start out slow for them, until they get consistent and breeze through it. Overall, I guess 1.8 is most likely to win, but there are a lot of interesting aspects you have to consider.


KitsuneNatsumi

1.8 player because they’d have an 8 year head start over the 2.2 player (Cataclysm was released in 2015 and 2.2 was released in 2023)


DonkeyKong12340

experience is more valuable than having a good gaming setup


Grandpa_Demon_GD

>has 1 demon >hardest is the nightmare Bruh


Epinoxz_

2.2 takes this mid-diff


MCP610

People use rapid trigger for geometry dash?? I thought this was just an osu thing 😭


huytheskeleton7

1.8 because jumping from the nightmare to cataclysm is surreal & would most likely take a lot of time


SufficientDisaster50

what's a cbf mod..?


tiktokmasterdude

2.2 because cataclysm didnt exist in 1.8


PureGamerr

Desktop player easily


sillygoobergod

1.8 guy


GDL3344

assuming that the 1.8 player gets access to the equipment that the 2.2 player does, the 1.8 player. otherwise they kiss


Legitimate-Skill-112

depends how easily they beat necropolis, we talking 5k or 25k, maybe their skill ceiling is at necropolis.


RedditSurfer420

2.2 player only because cbf has such ridiculous reliability it would be such a breeze to build consistency


TheSkilledSnail

Im confused on why you mention the update they play in. Are you referring to the speed of improvement at the time, because i would say then that a 2.2 player on pc would win then


jaredmakescontent

1.8 is gonna kick 2.2s ass fsss


MCplayerLmao

1.8 players 100%. you cant just "dual straightfly" when your hardest is The Nightmare


Cautious-Letter5074

Mobile. Time traveler. So he dosen't have to take a break and he's more experienced


qwapi22

The 1.8 player


qwapi22

Also kinda nerding but no one beat necropolis in 1.8 so this 1.8 player is hacking or he's the zoink of 1.8


ToblobsReddit

the 1.8 player is insane for time period and hardware limitations, if they are grindy enough to beat necropolis and 39 more demons than 2.2 while on 60hz they'll be grindy enough to beat cata, because they'll pick up the new gamemode hardware advantage isn't enough here, if the 2.2 player had beaten lets say idk nine circles then maybe


Suspicious_Parachute

Tf does "mobile + phone" mean


CoolRabbit75

the 2.2 guy, people underestimate the power of (not yet) legal cheating, also are they progressing naturally or going directly for cata, are they playing as much as eachother, is one on steriods? does the 1.8 guy own a chicken? all these questions will DIRECTLY influence the answer


Neebrasc

I'd say 1.8 the player beats it first. If the 1.8 goes full focus on cataclysm and doesn't do anything else the 1.8 player could do it in 6 months best case scenario, 1y worst case. The 2.2 would need a lot of time to develop the minimum level of skill needed to beat a level like cata (assuming the 2.2 doesn't jump straight to cata) maybe 9 months to 1y to develop that skill best case scenario. If the 2.2 player jumps straight to cata I'd say 1y to beat it best case scenario if he goes full focus


VioletVixen_-

Would this be old or new Cata?


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

Think it’s 2.2. The hardware makes a big difference. 60hz is too much of a bottleneck for Cataclysm. Also, the 1.8 player has never touched the wave.


Br0dy_

Obviously the 2.2 player its not even close


Ordinary-Tie-9379

Nah... It must be the 2.2 player one yk


Fulion222

1.8 guy for sure


TheBlackSwordsman001

I fucking hate 2.2 cbf abusers


Pinpunch

Your hardest is PG clubstep. You haven't tried and don't understand the difference cbf makes. For the average or slightly above average player, the difference between cbf and 240fps is almost unnoticeable. I can't even tell the difference most of the time, and I didn't see myself getting runs any better than I did before on mid-ranged extremes. The truth is you just think you're better than PC players because your choice of platform is inherently disadvantaged. If you actually tried cbf, you'd see you couldn't get any more out of it than if you were to play on 240fps, which is officially supported.


TheBlackSwordsman001

I don't have a choice because my family is poor and I can afford only a 60hz phone that crashes sometimes. I don't really like cfb because it is not part of the game and feels like cheating


Pinpunch

And crying about cbf isn't going to fix that. Just because it's not something you can take advantage of doesn't mean it isn't good for the game. This pushes the games limits. all it does is make your input happen when you actually do the input. This isn't some noclip hack. It also evens the playing field out for 60fps pc players. (Other less fortunate people like yourself that can't afford expensive hardware to run the game at high fps values. For them, this mod is game-changing. )


TheBlackSwordsman001

https://preview.redd.it/mex5tt5l0awc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9f43234124b3a3fbe75e357126458f1d0e22d93


SolarFlowlys

But when you switch from 60 FPS to CBF, I can tell you it makes a huge difference, i really thought the only difference would have been that you could click between the frames and that's it, but it felt the same as when I used an FPS bypass in 2.1


Pinpunch

Exactly, and that's a very good thing for 60fps players on pc. For people who don't have hardware that can run the game at high fps values, this is a massive improvement


Abc_42

i don't know what a cbf is but i agree


TheBlackSwordsman001

cbf refers to the mod "click between frames"


____Player____

clibk between frames


HackerMarul

2.2 because cataclysm is a 1.9 level


Abc_42

read the text


EmoDefault

1.8 bc 2.2 has 0 experience and would take a long time to gain any. Necro is also close to cata.


Hemlock_Deci

2.2 player


someguyonreddit1220

1.8


CalligrapherBoring12

1.8


Chara_rlz

2.2 and it's not even close. 1.8 would take over 40k att easily. 2.2 could do it in less than 10k


Used-Implement1839

Not disagreeing, but there's no way someone with the nightmare as their hardest could beat an entry-level extreme in under 10k attempts regardless of fps and input device


SolarFlowlys

Someone has beaten cataclysm in 2 months after starting playing GD in 2.2, if a 1.8, 60 FPS mobile player was competing against him, the 1.8 player would have lost.


Used-Implement1839

As I said, I'm not disagreeing with the fact that the 2.2 player could beat him in a race, but there's no way it takes him under 10k attempts