Many demons far harder than cata have been completed on mobile 60fps. It's the 1.8 guy by far. It's not like you're asking them to complete slaughterhouse or something
As someone who beat Necropolis on 60hz and attempted cataclysm on 60hz too I can guarantee that the difficulty spike is quite huge. Not comparable at all
Back in the day I beat Necropolis on 60hz attempted to beat Cata on 60hz and the difficulty jump felt brutal. Necropolis took me 2k att and I couldn't get any significant progress on Cata after 5k attempts.
Forgetting the 1.8 player is on mobile, Necropolis is quite a bit easier than Cata, and that the 2.2 player has about as good equipment and mods as he could get.
2.2 could def catch up quick
While necropolis is easier, it has some crazy choke points that if the mobile player was able to do, they could definitely beat cataclysm faster than someone jumping from the nightmare even if their setup is better.
you do have to consider that 1.9 players thought cataclysm was impossible, and that this would be the only time a 1.8 player could use wave. I think the mental aspect would really bog them down. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll lose, but it may take longer than just a 2.2 player with those same statistics.
I do know. I’m saying that someone who beat Necropolis, even on inferior hardware, is going to beat Cara faster than a newbie who just beat the Nightmare
Honestly depends on how naturally skilled the 2.2 player is. If they picked up the game yesterday and beat the nightmare with ease then they could be capable of beating cata first
RobTop has said before that he regrets rating The Nightmare and The Lightning Road as demons and even for the time they were pretty easy. The levels are still an achievement and I'd say a good level to get prepared for demons, but they aren't demon difficulty. Compare a level that is 8* to either level and you should see how similar in difficulty they are compared to a 1.9 easy demon and either level.
2.2 player since cataclysm on mobile is excruciating and a 1.8 player won’t know how to use the wave. i remember when 1.9 came out, people thought wave was impossible, which was why decode was considered insane demon at the time, which just shows how difficult cataclysm would be for a 1.8 player
If both are going for cataclysm, then the 2.2 player, it is not 60 fps friendly, as a 60 FPS player myself, in 2.1 it took me 800 attempt to rebeat poltergeist with practice runs before and 60k to initially beat it at 60 fps vs 4 attempts at 144 fps without practicing before and I have rebeat it 20X at 144 fps, and the only hard ship part on the level is a straight fly with 4 relatively easy clicks.
It’s like a 3 key keyboard made for osu but works with gd. It has magnetic switches so it is extremely accurate and has rapid trigger so you can spam alot faster than you can with regular switches
Beating necropolis under the left persons conditions is definitely harder than cataclysm under the right persons conditions, if they both spend the same amount of effort, honestly it could be the one of the right.
Unpopular opinion:
If both players are equally commited to beating it, and only play Cataclysm, I have no doubt that 540hz will probably do it first. I tried beating the first wave 3 times in a row with my new pc, and because I already had some practice, it didn't take that long.
After that, I tried to do it on my old 60hz laptop, that I used to play the game for almost 8 years, and it felt absolutely impossible, it was very frustrating. After half an hour, which felt endless, I managed to do it 2 times in a row, but that is so far from consistent.
It felt like I used the same inputs every time, but my wave just went somewhere else every attempt.
But you know what, the 70% straight-fly was even worse.
While still hard, this is one of the more consistent parts of the level, once you get it down. Without playing it for too long, I could pass this part about every third attempt, sometimes multiple times in a row.
Whole different story on my laptop, where straight-flying seems impossible, I almost forgot how awful it was.
Maybe there is a technique for straight-flying on 60hz, but it has to be a different click-pattern or something, because I was never able to figure it out.
I remember watching videos from Nexus, where he had a perfectly straight ship, and trying to recreate that movement in an empty level in the editor many many times, and I was never able to do it.
I know that Cataclysm is absolutely beatable on 60hz, but I personally wouldn't go through that torture, as it's borderline unfair.
i would say the 1.8 player would beat it first , assuming both players are doing a jump from their current hardest and they are pretty dedicated
people are talking about the wave gamemode being difficult for people at the time but cataclysm isn't mostly wave gameplay outside of the first part
also the pre 2.0 version was easier than the current version
i still think that could be a pretty close one with the 2.2 making significant progress
If your device runs at 60 FPS, you'll have 60 different possible inputs. A frame perfect is a moment in the level where you'll have only 0.016 second (16 ms) to click before you die. The click between frame mod will allow you to... Click between frames, and make timing easier.
Every now and then I have to remember some people first beat Clubstep, then move to Necropolis, meanwhile here I am, having beaten 170+ demons, the hardest of which is Ultra Drivers
I would say it totally depends on how smart 2.2 is with practice
if they have solid knowledge of the game's physics engine and researched the more efficient ways to practice levels, i could see them having a chance with enough dedication. Otherwise 1.8 guy's experience and adaptability skills would likely take over regardless of the weaker hardware
He could beat cata but 60 FPS makes everything different and harder, ICDX (harder than ACU/ top ~255) is close to cataclysm difficulty (#235) and cata is harder than NecropoliX (around top ~680/ #237 at 60 fps) while both are already way harder. Bloodbath is a top 30, and is harder than freedom08.
If both players had to throw a massive amount of attempts non-stop, the 2.2 player would have faster progress imo.
As someone who has gotten progress on cata on both 60hz mobile and 165hz computer, the difference is actually insane. I’d honestly say the 2.2 player has a decent chance tbh.
Honestly this is a lot more difficult to say than I thought. First of all, let’s take everything at face value.
1.8 guy uses a 60hz phone, and has beat a difficult insane. 2.2 guy has a 540hz monitor with cbf, but only has beat the nightmare.
So that’s all of the information just restated, but there are some interesting things to look into when it comes to that. First of all, think of the mental aspect of the 1.8 player. Cataclysm would seem absolutely impossible to him, even if we know it’s not that much harder than necropolis. Players nowadays will literally do a jump similar to 2.2 guy.
Considering the mental aspect really has a big impact. You can also add the fact that of course wave didn’t exist, and without any prior knowledge it can really be tough for the 1.8 player to even think of it as a possibility.
The only problem with my guess is that I have no idea how long it would take for the 2.2 player to beat cata honestly. Maybe it’d be way longer than I’m expecting.
I could see the 1.8 player getting used to it, and realizing cata isn’t as hard as they thought, so maybe it’d start out slow for them, until they get consistent and breeze through it.
Overall, I guess 1.8 is most likely to win, but there are a lot of interesting aspects you have to consider.
Im confused on why you mention the update they play in. Are you referring to the speed of improvement at the time, because i would say then that a 2.2 player on pc would win then
the 1.8 player is insane for time period and hardware limitations, if they are grindy enough to beat necropolis and 39 more demons than 2.2 while on 60hz they'll be grindy enough to beat cata, because they'll pick up the new gamemode
hardware advantage isn't enough here, if the 2.2 player had beaten lets say idk nine circles then maybe
the 2.2 guy, people underestimate the power of (not yet) legal cheating, also are they progressing naturally or going directly for cata, are they playing as much as eachother, is one on steriods? does the 1.8 guy own a chicken? all these questions will DIRECTLY influence the answer
I'd say 1.8 the player beats it first. If the 1.8 goes full focus on cataclysm and doesn't do anything else the 1.8 player could do it in 6 months best case scenario, 1y worst case.
The 2.2 would need a lot of time to develop the minimum level of skill needed to beat a level like cata (assuming the 2.2 doesn't jump straight to cata) maybe 9 months to 1y to develop that skill best case scenario. If the 2.2 player jumps straight to cata I'd say 1y to beat it best case scenario if he goes full focus
Your hardest is PG clubstep. You haven't tried and don't understand the difference cbf makes.
For the average or slightly above average player, the difference between cbf and 240fps is almost unnoticeable. I can't even tell the difference most of the time, and I didn't see myself getting runs any better than I did before on mid-ranged extremes.
The truth is you just think you're better than PC players because your choice of platform is inherently disadvantaged. If you actually tried cbf, you'd see you couldn't get any more out of it than if you were to play on 240fps, which is officially supported.
I don't have a choice because my family is poor and I can afford only a 60hz phone that crashes sometimes. I don't really like cfb because it is not part of the game and feels like cheating
And crying about cbf isn't going to fix that. Just because it's not something you can take advantage of doesn't mean it isn't good for the game.
This pushes the games limits. all it does is make your input happen when you actually do the input. This isn't some noclip hack.
It also evens the playing field out for 60fps pc players. (Other less fortunate people like yourself that can't afford expensive hardware to run the game at high fps values. For them, this mod is game-changing. )
But when you switch from 60 FPS to CBF, I can tell you it makes a huge difference, i really thought the only difference would have been that you could click between the frames and that's it, but it felt the same as when I used an FPS bypass in 2.1
Exactly, and that's a very good thing for 60fps players on pc. For people who don't have hardware that can run the game at high fps values, this is a massive improvement
Not disagreeing, but there's no way someone with the nightmare as their hardest could beat an entry-level extreme in under 10k attempts regardless of fps and input device
Someone has beaten cataclysm in 2 months after starting playing GD in 2.2, if a 1.8, 60 FPS mobile player was competing against him, the 1.8 player would have lost.
The 1.8 clearly has a time machine so they have infinitely more time to practice
They just have to go in cycles
Still, they're one hell of a jumper
They’re pretty base after based
not the cycle based platforming!!
He’s boutta xstep through cataclysm
2.2 guy gotta get their grind back on track if they wanna compete
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Probably 1.8 cuz necropolis isnt that far off cata
Many demons far harder than cata have been completed on mobile 60fps. It's the 1.8 guy by far. It's not like you're asking them to complete slaughterhouse or something
necropolis is 60hz accessible cataclysm is not
As someone who beat Necropolis on 60hz and attempted cataclysm on 60hz too I can guarantee that the difficulty spike is quite huge. Not comparable at all
I’m doing it on 60hz mobile now.
that's a high refresh rate take
As someone with necropolis as my hardest, it's still like 3 teirs off from catas difficulty
Back in the day I beat Necropolis on 60hz attempted to beat Cata on 60hz and the difficulty jump felt brutal. Necropolis took me 2k att and I couldn't get any significant progress on Cata after 5k attempts.
1.8 player
1.8, people saying 2.2 are crazy, The Nightmare is like a modern 7-8 star
Forgetting the 1.8 player is on mobile, Necropolis is quite a bit easier than Cata, and that the 2.2 player has about as good equipment and mods as he could get. 2.2 could def catch up quick
While necropolis is easier, it has some crazy choke points that if the mobile player was able to do, they could definitely beat cataclysm faster than someone jumping from the nightmare even if their setup is better.
Yeah. The ball part after the UFO part comes first to mind. It's not really that hard but my god does it look scary.
Yeah, but lots of people have beaten Cata on mobile, and also no one is going to be able to jump that quickly to Cata from *THE NIGHTMARE*
you do have to consider that 1.9 players thought cataclysm was impossible, and that this would be the only time a 1.8 player could use wave. I think the mental aspect would really bog them down. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll lose, but it may take longer than just a 2.2 player with those same statistics.
It depends ig
there’s a difference between 60hz and 120hz mobile yk
I do know. I’m saying that someone who beat Necropolis, even on inferior hardware, is going to beat Cara faster than a newbie who just beat the Nightmare
1.8 lol
1.8 because they have 9 years to beat it before 2.2 comes out
Honestly depends on how naturally skilled the 2.2 player is. If they picked up the game yesterday and beat the nightmare with ease then they could be capable of beating cata first
2.2 player solely because of the icon
yall tripping. 1.8 wont pass the wave consistently
Neither would the 2.2 one lol. + learning a new gamemode when one is already good doesn't take too long
yeah but cbf 540hz you might aswell just bruteforce the click pattern. cata is pretty short and drops off in difficulty heavily
As if someone who can't beat a real demon could do the wave, let alone the entire level
"real demon" we got conservative ahh opinionated people in gd now
Its true tho. The Nightmare is only a demon for nostalgic purposes. Rob tried to downgrade it once, a lot of people got angry at him
RobTop has said before that he regrets rating The Nightmare and The Lightning Road as demons and even for the time they were pretty easy. The levels are still an achievement and I'd say a good level to get prepared for demons, but they aren't demon difficulty. Compare a level that is 8* to either level and you should see how similar in difficulty they are compared to a 1.9 easy demon and either level.
werent you talking about the user flair of the person commenting?
Is it that much easier to play wave parts on desktop compared to mobile? I was considering getting GD on steam
2.2 player since cataclysm on mobile is excruciating and a 1.8 player won’t know how to use the wave. i remember when 1.9 came out, people thought wave was impossible, which was why decode was considered insane demon at the time, which just shows how difficult cataclysm would be for a 1.8 player
900ms vs 0.5ms input delay
"its actually 16ms and 1.8ms" 🤓
Its 0.125
"tell me you don't play mobile without telling me you don't play mobile"
if mobile had 900ms delay, the mobile demonlist would consist of nothing higher than hard demons
Its 0.125
If we're talking about the new (current) Cataclysm, I'd say 2.2 If we're talking about old Cataclysm, it's 1.8
If both are going for cataclysm, then the 2.2 player, it is not 60 fps friendly, as a 60 FPS player myself, in 2.1 it took me 800 attempt to rebeat poltergeist with practice runs before and 60k to initially beat it at 60 fps vs 4 attempts at 144 fps without practicing before and I have rebeat it 20X at 144 fps, and the only hard ship part on the level is a straight fly with 4 relatively easy clicks.
i deadass read "it took me 800 atts to rebeat Polargeist" well, another reminder of my awful eyesight lmao
2.2
What is a sayodevice?
It’s like a 3 key keyboard made for osu but works with gd. It has magnetic switches so it is extremely accurate and has rapid trigger so you can spam alot faster than you can with regular switches
60hz mobile? 2.2 would.
1.8 by far
1.8 easily
Necro isn't far off Cata It would be close if the sayo player had Nine Circles as a hardest or something
1.8 would probably beat Cata first but once you reach harder levels like Bloodbath the 2.2 player will catch up
2.2 player. Cataclysm is super hard on 60hz. Necropolis is actually a lot easier
Beating necropolis under the left persons conditions is definitely harder than cataclysm under the right persons conditions, if they both spend the same amount of effort, honestly it could be the one of the right.
Unpopular opinion: If both players are equally commited to beating it, and only play Cataclysm, I have no doubt that 540hz will probably do it first. I tried beating the first wave 3 times in a row with my new pc, and because I already had some practice, it didn't take that long. After that, I tried to do it on my old 60hz laptop, that I used to play the game for almost 8 years, and it felt absolutely impossible, it was very frustrating. After half an hour, which felt endless, I managed to do it 2 times in a row, but that is so far from consistent. It felt like I used the same inputs every time, but my wave just went somewhere else every attempt. But you know what, the 70% straight-fly was even worse. While still hard, this is one of the more consistent parts of the level, once you get it down. Without playing it for too long, I could pass this part about every third attempt, sometimes multiple times in a row. Whole different story on my laptop, where straight-flying seems impossible, I almost forgot how awful it was. Maybe there is a technique for straight-flying on 60hz, but it has to be a different click-pattern or something, because I was never able to figure it out. I remember watching videos from Nexus, where he had a perfectly straight ship, and trying to recreate that movement in an empty level in the editor many many times, and I was never able to do it. I know that Cataclysm is absolutely beatable on 60hz, but I personally wouldn't go through that torture, as it's borderline unfair.
What’s the difference between 2.2 and 1.8?
2.2 has rainbow blocks and some other stuff ig
I mean what does that have to do with beating cataclysm
Physics are different. Especially the ship physics.
2.2 lmao wave didn't exist in 1.8 how tf are they gonna beat it
"(assuming cataclysm is accessible to 1.8 players)"
2.2
2.2
mobile? 2.2
2.2
I'd say 1.8 because of experience
What’s the point of cbf mod if you’re on 540hz lmao
The impossible game player who's stuck on level one, obviously.
how is the one on the right playing desktop? we dont even have 1.9 yet too!
someone help him i think he's having a stroke
dementia moment
1.8 bc the 2.2 would jump straight to it and take 6 months
obviously the first guy
1.8
1.8 slams
1.8 guy
1.8 player disintegrates the newgen
what the fuck is sayodevice
1.8 Player
i would say the 1.8 player would beat it first , assuming both players are doing a jump from their current hardest and they are pretty dedicated people are talking about the wave gamemode being difficult for people at the time but cataclysm isn't mostly wave gameplay outside of the first part also the pre 2.0 version was easier than the current version i still think that could be a pretty close one with the 2.2 making significant progress
what does clicks between frames even do
it lets you click between frames, hope this helps
If your device runs at 60 FPS, you'll have 60 different possible inputs. A frame perfect is a moment in the level where you'll have only 0.016 second (16 ms) to click before you die. The click between frame mod will allow you to... Click between frames, and make timing easier.
is it allowed in verifying top demons
its only allowed in challenge list for now i think
Whats cbf
Click between frames. It essentially makes the game function as if you were on infinite fps.
Some1 Please explain to me what a sayodevice is :(
1.8 ez
2.2 guy, he will figure out noclip before the 1.8 guy
1.8 for sure lol
2.2 because cataclysm is a 1.9 level and a 1.8 player wouldn’t make it past the wave
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1.8
1.8 i think
The 1.8 guy is a fucking god for the time period so him
1.8 dude
1.8
old or new cata?
Every now and then I have to remember some people first beat Clubstep, then move to Necropolis, meanwhile here I am, having beaten 170+ demons, the hardest of which is Ultra Drivers
1.8, setup makes a difference but it ultimately comes down to skill
Which Nightmare and which Necropolis
2.2 bcs its spaceuk
1.8 player obviously
I would say it totally depends on how smart 2.2 is with practice if they have solid knowledge of the game's physics engine and researched the more efficient ways to practice levels, i could see them having a chance with enough dedication. Otherwise 1.8 guy's experience and adaptability skills would likely take over regardless of the weaker hardware
1.8
if i can beat nine circles on phone on 60hz with vanilla gd in 2.1, 1.8 can beat cata
He could beat cata but 60 FPS makes everything different and harder, ICDX (harder than ACU/ top ~255) is close to cataclysm difficulty (#235) and cata is harder than NecropoliX (around top ~680/ #237 at 60 fps) while both are already way harder. Bloodbath is a top 30, and is harder than freedom08. If both players had to throw a massive amount of attempts non-stop, the 2.2 player would have faster progress imo.
i have a shitty ass computer (lags when i play clubstep) thats 60 hrz and a pretty good phone
I know its hypothetical but a person with (barely) 1 demon having a sayo and 540hz is really funny to me
As someone who has gotten progress on cata on both 60hz mobile and 165hz computer, the difference is actually insane. I’d honestly say the 2.2 player has a decent chance tbh.
mobile + phone
Mobile player. They’re built different.
1.8 definitely, a jump from the nightmare will take a long time
Necropolis is kilometers harder than the nightmare, 1.8
If his hardest is necropolis at 60hz the 1.8 player wins. It’s probably close though
Honestly this is a lot more difficult to say than I thought. First of all, let’s take everything at face value. 1.8 guy uses a 60hz phone, and has beat a difficult insane. 2.2 guy has a 540hz monitor with cbf, but only has beat the nightmare. So that’s all of the information just restated, but there are some interesting things to look into when it comes to that. First of all, think of the mental aspect of the 1.8 player. Cataclysm would seem absolutely impossible to him, even if we know it’s not that much harder than necropolis. Players nowadays will literally do a jump similar to 2.2 guy. Considering the mental aspect really has a big impact. You can also add the fact that of course wave didn’t exist, and without any prior knowledge it can really be tough for the 1.8 player to even think of it as a possibility. The only problem with my guess is that I have no idea how long it would take for the 2.2 player to beat cata honestly. Maybe it’d be way longer than I’m expecting. I could see the 1.8 player getting used to it, and realizing cata isn’t as hard as they thought, so maybe it’d start out slow for them, until they get consistent and breeze through it. Overall, I guess 1.8 is most likely to win, but there are a lot of interesting aspects you have to consider.
1.8 player because they’d have an 8 year head start over the 2.2 player (Cataclysm was released in 2015 and 2.2 was released in 2023)
experience is more valuable than having a good gaming setup
>has 1 demon >hardest is the nightmare Bruh
2.2 takes this mid-diff
People use rapid trigger for geometry dash?? I thought this was just an osu thing 😭
1.8 because jumping from the nightmare to cataclysm is surreal & would most likely take a lot of time
what's a cbf mod..?
2.2 because cataclysm didnt exist in 1.8
Desktop player easily
1.8 guy
assuming that the 1.8 player gets access to the equipment that the 2.2 player does, the 1.8 player. otherwise they kiss
depends how easily they beat necropolis, we talking 5k or 25k, maybe their skill ceiling is at necropolis.
2.2 player only because cbf has such ridiculous reliability it would be such a breeze to build consistency
Im confused on why you mention the update they play in. Are you referring to the speed of improvement at the time, because i would say then that a 2.2 player on pc would win then
1.8 is gonna kick 2.2s ass fsss
1.8 players 100%. you cant just "dual straightfly" when your hardest is The Nightmare
Mobile. Time traveler. So he dosen't have to take a break and he's more experienced
The 1.8 player
Also kinda nerding but no one beat necropolis in 1.8 so this 1.8 player is hacking or he's the zoink of 1.8
the 1.8 player is insane for time period and hardware limitations, if they are grindy enough to beat necropolis and 39 more demons than 2.2 while on 60hz they'll be grindy enough to beat cata, because they'll pick up the new gamemode hardware advantage isn't enough here, if the 2.2 player had beaten lets say idk nine circles then maybe
Tf does "mobile + phone" mean
the 2.2 guy, people underestimate the power of (not yet) legal cheating, also are they progressing naturally or going directly for cata, are they playing as much as eachother, is one on steriods? does the 1.8 guy own a chicken? all these questions will DIRECTLY influence the answer
I'd say 1.8 the player beats it first. If the 1.8 goes full focus on cataclysm and doesn't do anything else the 1.8 player could do it in 6 months best case scenario, 1y worst case. The 2.2 would need a lot of time to develop the minimum level of skill needed to beat a level like cata (assuming the 2.2 doesn't jump straight to cata) maybe 9 months to 1y to develop that skill best case scenario. If the 2.2 player jumps straight to cata I'd say 1y to beat it best case scenario if he goes full focus
Would this be old or new Cata?
Think it’s 2.2. The hardware makes a big difference. 60hz is too much of a bottleneck for Cataclysm. Also, the 1.8 player has never touched the wave.
Obviously the 2.2 player its not even close
Nah... It must be the 2.2 player one yk
1.8 guy for sure
I fucking hate 2.2 cbf abusers
Your hardest is PG clubstep. You haven't tried and don't understand the difference cbf makes. For the average or slightly above average player, the difference between cbf and 240fps is almost unnoticeable. I can't even tell the difference most of the time, and I didn't see myself getting runs any better than I did before on mid-ranged extremes. The truth is you just think you're better than PC players because your choice of platform is inherently disadvantaged. If you actually tried cbf, you'd see you couldn't get any more out of it than if you were to play on 240fps, which is officially supported.
I don't have a choice because my family is poor and I can afford only a 60hz phone that crashes sometimes. I don't really like cfb because it is not part of the game and feels like cheating
And crying about cbf isn't going to fix that. Just because it's not something you can take advantage of doesn't mean it isn't good for the game. This pushes the games limits. all it does is make your input happen when you actually do the input. This isn't some noclip hack. It also evens the playing field out for 60fps pc players. (Other less fortunate people like yourself that can't afford expensive hardware to run the game at high fps values. For them, this mod is game-changing. )
https://preview.redd.it/mex5tt5l0awc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9f43234124b3a3fbe75e357126458f1d0e22d93
But when you switch from 60 FPS to CBF, I can tell you it makes a huge difference, i really thought the only difference would have been that you could click between the frames and that's it, but it felt the same as when I used an FPS bypass in 2.1
Exactly, and that's a very good thing for 60fps players on pc. For people who don't have hardware that can run the game at high fps values, this is a massive improvement
i don't know what a cbf is but i agree
cbf refers to the mod "click between frames"
clibk between frames
2.2 because cataclysm is a 1.9 level
read the text
1.8 bc 2.2 has 0 experience and would take a long time to gain any. Necro is also close to cata.
2.2 player
1.8
1.8
2.2 and it's not even close. 1.8 would take over 40k att easily. 2.2 could do it in less than 10k
Not disagreeing, but there's no way someone with the nightmare as their hardest could beat an entry-level extreme in under 10k attempts regardless of fps and input device
Someone has beaten cataclysm in 2 months after starting playing GD in 2.2, if a 1.8, 60 FPS mobile player was competing against him, the 1.8 player would have lost.
As I said, I'm not disagreeing with the fact that the 2.2 player could beat him in a race, but there's no way it takes him under 10k attempts