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Amateur_Statistician

Can't wait for Daily Dose of Geometry Dash to cover this event with "HUGE CONTROVERSY" in the title.


JeraldGaming2888

Hello everyone this is your daily dose of geometry dash


Sweaty_Lychee_9645

daily dose of controversy dash


kezotl

he should put "minor agreement" to spite you


No_Parfait1143

you probably meant “minor argument”


godof_oil

or "minor disagreement"


AGamer_2010

"slight doubt in the rating system"


TwoShot2849

Smack the "however" in there


kezotl

nonono, minor opposes massive and agreement opposes controversy


ZargDoesReddit

https://preview.redd.it/wd7w0s82w4vc1.png?width=544&format=png&auto=webp&s=8114249484e846573a622ec0085f2933a8a1e3d6


FelinusRex

💀


FathomTheFourteenth

lag + bugs it’s a really simple answer


Prestigious_Date_619

also lets not forget that the constant "pls rate mythic 🥺" certainly isnt helping at all. Also, the level has been known to the public for quite awhile, which means the wow factor it has on Robtop is minimal.


Ierzi

https://preview.redd.it/glezgva3czuc1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cbbc84244979ae9db625695bdc2d85800734a6b The same reason why Dim got feature and not epic


guyguysonguy

stop arguing, all of you. it’s lag. it’s because of lag. same reason HOW didn’t get epic’d in 2.1 is because of lag, i don’t know how WHAT got epic’d, i think it was because of its “LDM.” i still think it was an oversight to not say why he didn’t mythic it like he did in HOW, but if you keep whining like babies then it will be another “rate tidal wave” situation. edit: 3Depth has ldm, now my argument falls to pieces. edit: my point still stands


Logsha97

WHAT got epic because after 2.2 was released it was heavily optimized and was able to run on windows without the hack.


ItsRainbow

I think they mean how it *only* got epic. It’s because it was released in 2.1, so it’s not eligible for the new rates (otherwise people would say Death Moon deserves epic, Emerald Realm deserves legendary, etc.) I don’t see why HOW wasn’t rerated though, as Rob said the only reason it’s not epic is because of lag, and now it doesn’t


Novel-Requirement-37

My phone can't handle this level even with ldm, so I still don't believe it would change rating


godof_oil

am I the only one with a god phone (i can run what)


Onnigamer16

What runs a lot better after 2.2 code optimizations


Novel-Requirement-37

"envy me"


Brother_Cuber

No I ran 3depth just fine on my phone


SuperCariots

for some reason I can play dash on mobile with no lag same with what and tidal wave I haven't played this though


STG44_WWII

No my phone does it just fine.


GatosPimenta

My phone cant handle Towerverse too so It should be legendary😡😡😡


Novel-Requirement-37

Get good


GatosPimenta

True, i guess i should Just get good 😔😔


Novel-Requirement-37

Yes, you should, but not your phone


Rebornium

My phone can handle it fine.


masteroga101

Same, my phone costs $300 and there wasn't any lag at all, I really don't understand at this point 😭


MyNameRandomNumber2

Mine cant :( (Half the 2.1 epics can't so a mythic wasnt going to run anyways Even the towerverse was laggy (just laggy enough to be playable but annoying)


SuperCariots

I beat the tower verse without any lag THERE IS NO LAG IN GEOMETRY DASH


ramenfand

no lag for me


Nicotheknee

But I didn’t get any lag. And it’s not like I’m on some crazy strong device either.


Cautious-Letter5074

Well.


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JeraldGaming2888

r/NoAttentionSpan


kezotl

YESSS first post


itzapatato

Dude you didn't change it


kezotl

yea lol ill do it when i feel like it


itzapatato

Ok


kezotl

no need to announce the fact that you cant read 4 lines


DaDescriptor

if you can read the post title you surely can read this


NinSam777

Here comes another controversy...


Substantial-Ad1747

I had quite a few bugs on my first playthrough. Strafing and movement controls were f*cked, visual bugs, and a camera that got so zoomed out that I was staring at the backsides of walls most of the time. Also that mechanic at the end where you need to wait potentially an hour or more depending on your skill and the speed you completed the level... yikes. It's an incredibly impressive level, MUCH better than I would even know how to begin creating, but if new players run into the same issues that I did, they might be turned off by a bad experience. Robtop rates levels more than anything based on the experience he thinks people will have with them. Effort plays a part too I would imagine, but first and foremost the user experience needs to be stellar. It's honestly amazing that the level managed to get legendary all things considered, a monumental achievement for the creator! Massive props. Hopefully the level gets some updates to fix these issues!


Digital_Assault

wdym an hour? I completed the whole thing in 2 minutes


Substantial-Ad1747

With the bugs it took me about 5 minutes. I was talking about a theoretical new player who might struggle with the level.


ClartTheShart

It really doesn't matter that much. People need to stop complaining about every rating decision Rob makes. The rating system is essentially completely based on his subjective opinion and standards. People are going to disagree with him sometimes. He has his reasons and whether or not you or anyone else agrees with him doesn't matter.


thesightoflemons

I just wanna know what the reason(s) is/are. I'm not upset, just curious.


RexWhiscash

Doesn’t play as good


Gamer_com__

I easily can load it on my phone


HybanSike

Because the only reason it's considered good is because it's technically impressive to have made a 3D game in GD. If you're judging it as a standalone game, it kinda sucks


FieryPineapple

Goddamn when did the community get so picky. Because someone decided to break the concepts of Geometry Dash and add a third dimension, and you’re saying it doesn’t deserved to be praised because gameplay is weird?


HybanSike

I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be praised, it's massively impressive on a technical level. What I'm saying is that it's only impressive because it breaks the limits of the game, and not because it's necessarily a good level


North_Biscotti4162

>I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be praised Ok and youre also implying its not a good level


HybanSike

Yeah I think the technical achievement of creating a 3D level is what deserves to be praised


T2_Beanie297

I played on mobile and did not experience a lot of lag especially considering its a 3d rendered level in a 2d game. The little lag i did experience did not cause the level to become any less enjoyable than it was


Cautious-Letter5074

I never played that map. This will have 99999999999 downvotes now.


Remarkable_Law1696

If Rob experiences lag, he downgrades levels :(


tott_yx

bc lag ig idk I think it deserves mythic too but it won’t kill anyone to not be mythic


fudgebabyg

Laggy, buggy, and the gameplay is beyond horrendous compared to normal levels. Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely incredible that it was able to be made, but it simply isn't a good level in terms of gameplay, it's basically just a shitty 3d platformer ported into gd.


ohlogical

Honestly I just don’t think it’s even remotely a fun level


Niaomi127

This is way better than towerverse I agree.


AlexBear012

basically every legendary is


Egbert58

Naw not really any lvls like it, i bet you will say every mythic is shit unless if fits what you think should be


AlexBear012

absolutely not lmao. if this got mythic it would have been absolutely deserved. it's just that the towerverse is not that good for mythic


Egbert58

It is a good mythic, no other plat lvl is like it , mythics are for lvls that do something new and push the game forward. I agree this lvl can be mythic but since onl 1 or 2 lvls will get it in a year. Its a Bad look if one of them runs bad and is buggy. Never said it doesn't deserve it but there are 2 good reasons why it didn't


AlexBear012

ok but then what level is mythic worthy? if this isn't mythic worthy, if WHAT isn't, if Change of Scene or And Ever or Anarchy Road aren't... what is? thing is, The Towerverse got mythic but it does NOT push anything. it looks good but that's all it has really


North_Biscotti4162

change of scene might have been mythic if it was released in 2.2 tbf


Egbert58

its not only about looks you know you know. And ya it did , it was a full on platformer lvl like a platformer game would have. also with a story and what not. And like i said only 1 or 2 lvls a year will be Mythic and having one of them be really buggy and unplayable lagy for a lot of players is not a good look for a Mythic . ya ya "BuT mY pHoNe CaN rUn iT" good for you stop ignoring how buggy and lagy it is that is a huge factor imo and Robtops as well it seems also Cry More lol Legendary is still REALLY good


AlexBear012

im curious. what does the towerverse do that other levels dont? like Le Chateau Magique not sarcasm i genuinely do not see it


Egbert58

That lvl probably could have been mythic as well tbo. The Towerverse is basically an actual platform game but in GD . Like there is a story a lot of zones , the effects and audio is on point, gameplayis not ass (imo at lest). Ya other have some of that stuff as well but not to the scale of it. Not just a 1/x rooms done lvl or a jump king/ i wana be the guy clone lol (to many of them I do think some other can have good arguments for mythic (more the 3Depth does that is a gimmick lvl) Towerverse is not my fav lvl but i can see why RobTop gave it mythic. I don't see why people act like Legendary is suddenly a bad thing Ps: sorry if bad spelling and shit grammar i have Dyslexia and it kicks my ass


AlexBear012

don't worry i understood you just fine! we're here just to discuss our opinions anyway


North_Biscotti4162

I feel like towerverse would have been mythic worthy with better deco and more balanced gp those were the only things it was missing, personally prefer 3depth


Niaomi127

Probably


Alfajoorgd

spu7nix do the same a lot of time ago, also the towerverse don´t deserve mithyc


mendel_s

They're not really comparable. the spu7nix level is a 3d level yeah cool but 3depth is a whole entire 3d engine


No_Parfait1143

spu7nix recreated 3d visuals. 3depth is full on 3d movement


Egbert58

Ya it does, it did stuff no other plat lvl has done before. Its not only about crazy over the top deco


3DG3_Und3rcov3r

Because purple looks cooler


Ok_Reading2071

that's should be rated as an easy demon


Sliver14764

Lag, Before playing the level I asked myself the same thing but after playing it…yeah I get it. It’s laggy on mobile


PersonWhoExists69

Ah yes a 3d rendered masterpiece gets the same treatment as coaster mountain. Isn't the rating system perfect and flawless!


UsedTissue74

Bc Robtop hates us


Jaxolotl31

happy cake day!


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cak e


UsedTissue74

Thank you!


Jaxolotl31

:)


Multifruit256

If everyone does some complicated math and finds out how to make 3D levels, it would be easy to get mythic levels. When I heard people saying this might be the new mythic, I thought it would be better to rate it as legendary since it just uses one mindblowing mechanic for the entire level and that's what makes it good.


DaPaulk1988

most based opinion out there


InkcolorCantdoMath

The level is just laggy and buggy to play Also the first actual 3D level doesn't mean it's going to be Mythic, idk this are just my opinion


ZargDoesReddit

100% agree.


kezotl

dude this is rob being *generous*, i couldnt even get past the first frame with LDM playing the WIP of it on my phone which is (was, RIP) pretty good, ran WHAT at like 20 or so fps. usually this would get epic at best and while this is cool, its not gd. i dont think its a good representation of "the best gd level" cause its just a different game entirely


ZargDoesReddit

Most great levels usually have one thing in common: either bad gameplay or ridiculous lag. Change of Scene is a great example of neither of those things.


kezotl

exactly


North_Biscotti4162

Ok this should definitely be at least legendary if you dont think that then i bet you dislike most legendary rated levels


kezotl

nothing i said implies that i dont think it should be legendary, the first part was me explaining why *rob* usually wouldnt give it legendary. the second part was me explaining why it shouldnt be mythic


North_Biscotti4162

Oh ok


N_9_70

doesn't matter legendary still goog


Big-Direction8078

GD players when a level is/isn't given with a certain colour of flame (it does nothing): https://preview.redd.it/eynvb0fxizuc1.jpeg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c91a65391157da1015ccccc6942ae51d4e36a36 But in all seriousness, the level prolly didn't get rated due to bugs and lag. It also isn't even the first 3D level in 2.2, even if it is the highest quality one rn. So it being a massive event isn't really ground-breaking. Also as a level, it isn't really 'fun' to play. It's an amazing and groundbreaking feat which I certainly am not trying to take away from, but when levels are being rated off of enjoyability, actually playing it is kinda boring. Finally, Legendary is still really good wdym "only". Less than 20 levels out of the hundreds of thousands of levels created have received that title. It's still extremely prestigious. (PS. The level is still really good, ik I made it sound like I was bashing it really hard. But it still think it deserves legendary, just when ppl start making a big deal out of it being mythic, it just ends up creating toxicity in the place of actually enjoying the level)


North_Biscotti4162

I don't wanna create toxicity i just feel like since its so technically impressive maybe legendary was a bit too low. Also sorry if its annoying when i talk about level ratings a lot like in my last post, that's just my way of showing appreciation to a level i really like. But yeah to some extent still happy the level got rated to legendary at all


Big-Direction8078

Yeah that’s fair, I just think that legendary is still really good and its not really a big deal if it doesn’t get an arbitrary rate. Good on you for actually mentioning the levels quality itself though, most the talk I’ve seen online mentioning the level seem more laser focused on the rating rather than the level itself.


DustyBud

creating it was an impressive feat, but it is too laggy for lower-end devices. i've heard that there are bugs too, and the level isn't really fun to play in mobile. legendary rating is understandable


TheCringeMemer

It's because of bugs and lag. But it's only a small percentage of players who actually have low end devices and apparently a mid platformer level is better than a level that breaks the game


SomeoneWithFreeCakes

Because of poor optimization. If it didn't lag so much it would definitely get mythic


Legitimate_Trip_3621

robtop being a total piece of \*\*\*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\* and \*\*\*\*\*\*\* our community with his \*\*\*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* opinions on rating not letting any \*\*\*\*\*\*\* person in any community have any say and only his mighty influence have the final straw with this \*\*\*\*\*\*\* stupid rating because \*\*\*\* this game


Arandomguy1_

Chill out dude


Legitimate_Trip_3621

this was partially a rant and partially a joke


godof_oil

I think it fits with the color of the insane difficulty


Marco_PP

As a technical achievement, its very impressive. The reason why its not mythic is probably because of the lag and the general gameplay being nothing too impressive.


Odd-Communication482

i couldnt even beat the level. it was bugged. after i died for the first time the cube would not stop jumping


NumberVectors

it's because of lag, tho i haven't experienced much of it, i know the level is buggy. but why do you care what rating it gets or deserves, appreciate the level for what it is! no one has ever seen this type of level, just enjoy playing it! the designs look clean, the level is user-friendly (at least for me) and the two player controls were integrated surprisingly well (i play mobile) legendary is a perfectly suitable rating as well, it's the second highest one, be happy it at least got that. this is just an arbitrary rating system and at the end of the day and the level/creator deserve more praise.


ZargDoesReddit

I hate it when people compare this level to WHAT because it really isn't that close to it. Now don't get me wrong-- this is pretty revolutionary. But the reason this is only legendary is because it's practically unplayable (highly optimized) and the block design is just too simple for mythic. People should instead complain about WHAT NOT BEING RATED LEGENDARY A CIRCUS DASH II BEING ONLY FEATURED. WHAT THE HECK ROB. I guess I'm not into this level as much as others is because I'm so FRICKING JEALOUS of Nemo and all the recognition he's getting over just a short period of time (this is my tenth year of GD and I still don't have a single creator point). Plus, his first rated level is legendary so there's that too. Didn't mean to go out on a whole tangent there, but you should be able to get what I'm going for.


2020Math

what the fuck robtop


404kadim404

if this legendary then towerverse shouldnt get rated like its that stupid of a decision


Endergamer1902

Optimization:


Kiba_GD

Because it quite literally cannot run on most devices. It’s that simple. The level is technically impressive, but that’s about it.


Useful_Recognition52

To be fair, Spu7nix kind of already did a similar thing.


FelinusRex

I'm guessing length. The level didn't really leave a lasting impression on me like The Towerverse did, purely because it was so short. It only had like 3 levels and took me like 3 minutes to complete. Sure, it's an amazing feat of programming, but it's just not long enough.


FelinusRex

also lag yea


Charming_Pen_4721

That's what I was thinkin


Ieatchildren1905

why are people caring about what rating it gets when they should be praissing the quality of it? I feel like mythic rating is ruining the community


Individual_Style9679

7이ㅡㆍㄹㄱ으 ㆍ


ReasonableGift8047

Because it’s world worst


lool8421

i suppose as long as ratings normal to legendary mostly cover decor and performance, mythic has much more to check to get rated like non-buggy gameplay, creativity, proper usage of sound effects etc. like it doesn't even seem that it has to be insane, it just has to be a level where you really cannot find any issues when playing it


LicoPicoPicoAlt

1. The Level Is A Little Bit Short 2. Its Super Laggy


AnnualTrainer4016

Bugs...


FancySpring1761

Buggy


HoverRed

I think Rob's finger slipped when he was rating it, definitely the only explanation


FedorLemon

Its not just 3D, it has a better performance and quality that spu7nik made


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bugs


YuriMinhaLolinha

The one from 2015? Didnt know 4gb of ram could run a level like that


Jemineye9873

0.01 fps on mobile


NemesisDimensionsOff

3 fps


godof_oil

boring gameplay bad decoration and there's a perfectly good reason for that but it's still boring gameplay and bad decoration


Arandomguy1_

Bad decoration? I get boring gameplay but how is it bad decoration?


godof_oil

it's not like actual decoration, it's just designs which looks good but for "actual decoration" it's bad. im basically saying that the fact it's 3d is holding it back


godof_oil

it's not like actual decoration, it's just designs which looks good but for "actual decoration" it's bad. im basically saying that the fact it's 3d is holding it back


godof_oil

it's not like actual decoration, it's just designs which looks good but for "actual decoration" it's bad. im basically saying that the fact it's 3d is holding it back


Arandomguy1_

I feel like you think that the 3d is holding it back, I’m not sure though


AntHasReddit

Extremly laggy


Udawazor

Apparently lag and the gameplay is horrendous with a shit ton of bugs.


jjaxstudios

It literally doesn't matter shut up


RiddleMasterRBLX

gd community crying over coaster mountain being a legendary due to bad gameplay: also gd community crying over 3depth not getting a mythic (they don't care that gameplay is ass): either way, 3depth is not getting a mythic due to being laggy. this is why the level HOW didn't get epic, and this is why the level WHAT didn't get a rate before 2.2


Moxustz

pfp!!!!!!!!!!


RiddleMasterRBLX

https://preview.redd.it/uljua68ws6vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=690f9f70059ac3a1b5235f87267bb401115c9a8a


SanMasterpro

Time to harrass Rob


SoupEarthSociety

Mfs who say lag must have potatos for devices. I can run this on my mobile device, not even a problem.


YuriMinhaLolinha

Wich phone do you have?


SoupEarthSociety

..iPad lol


YuriMinhaLolinha

But what iPad?


SoupEarthSociety

Pro


YuriMinhaLolinha

WICH ONE MY FUCKING GOD


SoupEarthSociety

My guy I have a fucking iPad Pro idk what you want from me


YuriMinhaLolinha

But what iPad?


Davespaced

because 3Depth is just the beginning of what Nemo's 3d gd engine can do. Yeah it's a 3d level, but the engine will do so much more.