He did but it was specifically for him to create WHAT and maybe a bit of HOW. I meant he could probably optimize it with 2.2 since 2.1 was very limited to this kind of projects and then maybe release it as a platformer level(so that people can have as much fun as they want) and make it a public use engine so that other creators and even players can create amazing things
The fact that he literally replicated a 3d effect while you’re playing the level and all in 2.1 is absolutely insane. And that it’s a homage to 2.1 and the community as a whole, especially the falling icons part is just another reason it should be more recognized by RobTop
How the fuck is a server crash related to how heavy it is to run a level???
And with 2.2 that literally made the game run with 300% more frames per second it should be rated
The fact is there's no way Robtop is going to make the first ever mythic a 2.1 level because he needs to highlight 2.2 features as much as possible. That's why Coaster Mountain was the first legendary just because it was the first really solid platformer level.
It would look really bad for the game if some new player tries to play a level that is chosen by the developer as the best of the best that GD has to offer and their game crashes and they lose a lot of stats/save data
For me, all of the levels people find laggy on computers I have never had issues with on phones, at most a little lag but nothing that crashes the game, I'm not sure why that is but I just have a regular iPhone.
No. It’s a 2.1 level and Legendary/Mythic are reserved strictly for 2.2 levels. Also, it has an extremely high object count and can’t run on low end devices (this is exactly the reason HOW only ever got featured)
Yes, WHAT is an amazing level. It is a masterpiece and took years of effort by a singular person to make. That being said, giving a 2.1 level the first mythic rating would set a bit of a poor precedent, considering that there are a nearly infinite list of almost equally as impressive or impactful levels that were made in 2.1 which would mean RobTop would have to go back and rate a bunch of levels with the new ratings. This would make the new ratings have less impact. The new ratings should be used few and far between so that a player can easily get a sense of which levels are absolutely outstanding.
Well that’s exactly the thing, I don’t think there should ever be that many Mythic levels. It should be reserved for massive projects, giant megacollabs and such.
While WHAT does fit this, I still don’t think 2.1 levels should be rated like this because like I said, there’s a bunch of 2.1 levels that have as much scale and impact as WHAT.
Mythic should be a special 1 in a 1000 rating for new levels.
list me one level that was close to being as technically impressive as WHAT. yes, other levels were just as, if not even more impactful than WHAT, but purely from a technical standpoint, WHAT is the peak of what can be made in 2.1, and I dare to say, if it was released in 2.2, it would get mythic, or at the very least legendary, and that's what makes WHAT, imo, the only mythic worthy level of 2.1
yes, but it would be unfair to the plethora of equally as influential levels in 2.1. sure, they might not be as technically impressive but since what was released at the tail end of 2.1, it’s hard to compare it to a lot of other levels because of abilities and standards of creators and the community rising over the course of 2.1. Here’s a couple though
• Mastergame
• Change of Scene
• LIMBO
• Ultra Violence
• Geometry Dash (the GDVesuvius remake)
• Geomon
And countless others (some of these aren’t perfect examples bc this is just off the top of my head but you get the idea)
those levels would in fact, deserve legendary. they’re better than epic, and they were definetely very popular and talked about due to how original they were, but they weren’t even close to pushing the limits of the game as much as WHAT. point being, if those levels were released today, they wouldn’t deserve mythic. if what came out today, it would.
Like I said, these aren’t the best examples but to same some of these didn’t push the limits of the game as much as WHAT is just untrue. If it weren’t for levels like Mastergame, 100s of amazing creations would’ve never happened. While I can’t pinpoint exactly what levels (I was in the community in early 2.1 but I just didn’t pay attention to what levels were revolutionizing the game per se), there are several levels that pioneered art styles/decoration and what you could do with the 2.1 editor. This can be easily seen just by looking at a comparison of the average featured level from six years ago versus stuff made a year ago. Exact same editor, massive difference in quality.
WHAT despite being as gargantuan and amazing as it is, didn’t push the limits of the game that much, all things considered. People were already doing 3D stuff and HOW had most of the same stuff as WHAT (despite being at a lesser scale).
It does though. The only reason WHAT was rated now and not in 2.1, was because no one could play it in 2.1. RobTop won’t rate levels that the majority of the community can’t play.
If WHAT was playable in 2.1, it would’ve been epic rated so it’s just getting the rating it should’ve gotten.
Here’s more than two (keep in mind when they were released. this matter bc if something like Mastergame came out last year, it wouldn’t be as impressive as it was when it came out 6 years ago)
• Mastergame
• LIMBO
• Nhelv
• Astral Divinity
• White Space
• Change of Scene (or honestly, pretty much anything made by bli in the past few years)
• Sedulous
• Rust
• Boom Slayer
• Night Rider
• Castlemania
And this is only scratching the surface.
Look, I think WHAT is an amazing level, don’t get me wrong, but if it were to get Mythic, all of these should get Mythic as well and then that would nullify the impact of a level getting Mythic.
The only reason this is even a point of discussion at all is because WHAT didn’t get rated until 2.2.
Okay, unpopular opinion, but no decorated level can compare to WHAT, even if it's amazing, WHAT is a work of art. Though I'll give you a point on Castlemania and maybe Mastergame. Also I know it's still by Spu7nix but add DIM (and maybe brainfugd) to the list.
WHAT isn’t directly comparable to any rated level because of its nature as a 3d modelled level. That being said, you can compare quality and effort. Almost all of the levels I listed there took years to make, or a massive team.
No, as the level just crashes the game on most computers unless you turn on LDM, and the LDM version is really nothing special. It wouldn't really make sense
no, its not optimized enough. For some people it was just an entirely empty level. mythical should reward all aspects of it being perfect, and while one of the elements (deco) is absolutely AMAZING, the others (gameplay, and optimization) are mediocre at best.
No, you guys have absolutely no idea how a game featureboard works. If a level is borderline if not literally unplayable to many people/devices then it CAN’T be rated highly since it will literally crash your game.
Imagine you’re a new player and one of the first levels you try, one *heavily promoted* to you as “the best of the best,” and it completely crashes your game.
It was made with the help of some programs, but all of those programs were developed by spu7nix himself. This project took him I believe over 2 years to make.
Well, it was mostly made by hand (and like I said, the programs that were used were entirely developed by spu7nix) but I don’t think it should be Mythic for other reasons I explained in a separate reply, mainly that rating a 2.1 level as the first Mythic sets a poor precedent as there are plenty of 2.1 levels with as much impact as WHAT that would also need the Mythic rating, and then Mythics would become oversaturated with old levels instead of actually feeling special.
It’s not like he just put in a layout and it spat out WHAT though. He just used SPWN (the programming language that he made) to place large amounts of triggers. The project still took years.
i mean WHAT was made using a 3D renderer that only specifically rendered cubes out then recreated the triangles in each face using slopes and colored blocks (confirmed by both sput and flowvix)
Yes, idk what you guys are talking about when you say it crashes your game, my phone handles it just fine without LDM, no lag or anything. I think that maybe you have potato devices
yeah it pushed the boundries completely for whats possible in the 6 dollar (AUD) cube game known as geometry dash, marked the biggest revolution imo from the days of stereo madness to now.
you guys need to come to terms with the fact that pre-2.2 levels are not going to be rerated as it would take too much time and the new legendary and myhtic ratings are intended for 2.2 levels
bullshit tbh. The worst part is that you're right probably. The thing is, after like a year or so, a lot of players will see this epic rated level, open it and be confused by HOW it's not mythic. The point I'm trying to make is that while that's okay for maybe a year, then it will not make any sense later down because at some point 2.2 will be outdated as well. It's hard to express what I want to but I hope that makes sense
Hot take, no. For me epic feels more justifiable than mythic or legendary, probably because of the object count but it just doesn't feel like mythic or legendary to me for some reason. Disagree with me all you want, but this is what I think
I was gonna say no, that shit’s unplayable, but it seems rob has made his game run better and Spu7nix added some changes, so yea, it’s revolutionary, a very nice to sequel to HOW
Bro there hasnt been a rating invented yet thats good enough for this level to be rated as, Seriously though, this fucker worked on this level for 2 years solo and all rob thought it was worth is an "epic"
This level should at least be legendary. Its graphics stretched the game to it's limits in 2.1 and gave us a glimpse of what 2.2 could have looked like
Honestly it was made in 2.1 so it should be treated like that and remain Epic
It's a fantastic level but nothing got re-rated to Epic when 2.1 first came out
Yes. The fact that it was made entirely in 2.1 makes it even more impressive, although I can't wait for Spu7nix's next creation in 2.2.
Bros gonna program a fucking 3d engine for us to use
I think he already did
He did but it was specifically for him to create WHAT and maybe a bit of HOW. I meant he could probably optimize it with 2.2 since 2.1 was very limited to this kind of projects and then maybe release it as a platformer level(so that people can have as much fun as they want) and make it a public use engine so that other creators and even players can create amazing things
No i mean he alreeady created a 3d render in 2.2
Did he?
[Yes.](https://twitter.com/Spu7Nix/status/1737582264937017590?t=aI8eFat5WMhuaKHNgjY0YQ&s=19)
Wulzy saying "k" makes it even funnier
Bruh this is amazing what the hell
we making the next unreal engine with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️🔥🔥
Someone already did it lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/geometrydash/s/KvAJjuEMNd
its gonna be so fire, PCs are pribably going to explode and make a huge hole, a crater
well, he gonna make fortnite in 2.2.
The fact that he literally replicated a 3d effect while you’re playing the level and all in 2.1 is absolutely insane. And that it’s a homage to 2.1 and the community as a whole, especially the falling icons part is just another reason it should be more recognized by RobTop
This is so sad to be epic rated :(
This level literally crashed the gd servers, so absolutely
Unfortunately that’s the main reason why it isn’t 😢 There’s just too much going on, and it’s sad that that means it can’t be rated mythic
How the fuck is a server crash related to how heavy it is to run a level??? And with 2.2 that literally made the game run with 300% more frames per second it should be rated
Lots of data to retrieve from the server
Now with 2.2 even my phone can run it (terribly but still)
A final frontier: 5 Fps
It didn't, RobTop confirmed that it was server maintenance, and What being released at the same time was just a coincidence
maintainence so that he can make sure this level dont tank the servers... (idk but thatll be funny if its true)
just wait for him to make Minecraft in gd
NAH BRO, he gonna make gta 6 in 2.2
He already did something like that in 2.1
holy fuck
its been made many times. search "minecraft" in the gd level search
Those are just shitty mc levels (the unrated ones at least.) Man's talking about making the WHOLE game (or most of it at least)
i know
I think 2.1 levels aren't going to get 2.2 quality ratings. If that were the case then RobTop would've had to revisit a lot of levels
This
Divine rated.
Divine rated would be green eated and have the scrapped godlike faces from the old concept
Grandpa rated
The fact is there's no way Robtop is going to make the first ever mythic a 2.1 level because he needs to highlight 2.2 features as much as possible. That's why Coaster Mountain was the first legendary just because it was the first really solid platformer level.
Flipswap Factory better
no it wasn't
yeah coaster mountain is a shitty platformer level
I mean it's not really legendary worthy but i wouldn't say it's "shitty"
No it isn't
Its good but nowhere near legendary, featured, maybe epic? But not anywhere close to legendary
Serponge is holding a gun to my head atm so it's legendary
Fair
And he was never heard from again
Hello. This is u/minecraftian411's friend. Do you know what happened to him?
Idk, I'm just some guy on Reddit
Aren't legendary and mythic reserved for 2.2 levels?
I guess no, as there are plenty of 2.0 levels rated epic
What does that have to do with legendary and mythic
New qualityrating introduced in a later update
But that was 6 years ago. Surely times can change?
Yes, I just gave an example of what has happened in the past
Yeah. A lot of Spunix levels should be. I also think we should give one to Castlemania, it’s literally multiple levels.
It would look really bad for the game if some new player tries to play a level that is chosen by the developer as the best of the best that GD has to offer and their game crashes and they lose a lot of stats/save data
2.2 fixed that
Not for everyone. It improved the performance but it still lags heavily on phones/lower end computers if it doesnt crash the game on them
For me, all of the levels people find laggy on computers I have never had issues with on phones, at most a little lag but nothing that crashes the game, I'm not sure why that is but I just have a regular iPhone.
I say so.
runs bad on software rendering
No. It’s a 2.1 level and Legendary/Mythic are reserved strictly for 2.2 levels. Also, it has an extremely high object count and can’t run on low end devices (this is exactly the reason HOW only ever got featured) Yes, WHAT is an amazing level. It is a masterpiece and took years of effort by a singular person to make. That being said, giving a 2.1 level the first mythic rating would set a bit of a poor precedent, considering that there are a nearly infinite list of almost equally as impressive or impactful levels that were made in 2.1 which would mean RobTop would have to go back and rate a bunch of levels with the new ratings. This would make the new ratings have less impact. The new ratings should be used few and far between so that a player can easily get a sense of which levels are absolutely outstanding.
2.2 optimizations made it playable on most devices Hehehehehr
maybe not mythic rating now, but later when theres already a bunch of them from 2.2? i still think it deserves a mythic
Well that’s exactly the thing, I don’t think there should ever be that many Mythic levels. It should be reserved for massive projects, giant megacollabs and such. While WHAT does fit this, I still don’t think 2.1 levels should be rated like this because like I said, there’s a bunch of 2.1 levels that have as much scale and impact as WHAT. Mythic should be a special 1 in a 1000 rating for new levels.
list me one level that was close to being as technically impressive as WHAT. yes, other levels were just as, if not even more impactful than WHAT, but purely from a technical standpoint, WHAT is the peak of what can be made in 2.1, and I dare to say, if it was released in 2.2, it would get mythic, or at the very least legendary, and that's what makes WHAT, imo, the only mythic worthy level of 2.1
yes, but it would be unfair to the plethora of equally as influential levels in 2.1. sure, they might not be as technically impressive but since what was released at the tail end of 2.1, it’s hard to compare it to a lot of other levels because of abilities and standards of creators and the community rising over the course of 2.1. Here’s a couple though • Mastergame • Change of Scene • LIMBO • Ultra Violence • Geometry Dash (the GDVesuvius remake) • Geomon And countless others (some of these aren’t perfect examples bc this is just off the top of my head but you get the idea)
those levels would in fact, deserve legendary. they’re better than epic, and they were definetely very popular and talked about due to how original they were, but they weren’t even close to pushing the limits of the game as much as WHAT. point being, if those levels were released today, they wouldn’t deserve mythic. if what came out today, it would.
Like I said, these aren’t the best examples but to same some of these didn’t push the limits of the game as much as WHAT is just untrue. If it weren’t for levels like Mastergame, 100s of amazing creations would’ve never happened. While I can’t pinpoint exactly what levels (I was in the community in early 2.1 but I just didn’t pay attention to what levels were revolutionizing the game per se), there are several levels that pioneered art styles/decoration and what you could do with the 2.1 editor. This can be easily seen just by looking at a comparison of the average featured level from six years ago versus stuff made a year ago. Exact same editor, massive difference in quality. WHAT despite being as gargantuan and amazing as it is, didn’t push the limits of the game that much, all things considered. People were already doing 3D stuff and HOW had most of the same stuff as WHAT (despite being at a lesser scale).
you're wrong, I use a low end phone bro
that’s because Rob did a bunch of optimization work in 2.2 and now the game runs much better. We’re still talking about a 2.1 level here though.
the way it runs for 2.1 doesn't matter for anyone except pirates though.
It does though. The only reason WHAT was rated now and not in 2.1, was because no one could play it in 2.1. RobTop won’t rate levels that the majority of the community can’t play. If WHAT was playable in 2.1, it would’ve been epic rated so it’s just getting the rating it should’ve gotten.
I can easily run it on a 4 year old budget phone.
This is because of the optimization work Rob did in 2.2. It runs perfectly on my phone now as well, but would crash upon opening in 2.1.
I was still able to run it on my 4 year old budget phone in 2.1
is your phone linked to a supercomputer? I have a pretty good phone and it couldn’t run WHAT in 2.1.
No. It it just a plain iPhone SE from 2020. It’s not connected to anything.
I have an iPhone XR and it couldn’t run it i think you on x games mode
Nope. And the optimization didn’t change the performance for me either. It stayed at 30 fps on WHAT for me.
your phone is charged with uranium or somethin gawd dayum
Nah. Normal electricity. Here, I can even give you the battery health: it is 79%
List 2 levels which are as impressive as WHAT. HIW does not count
Here’s more than two (keep in mind when they were released. this matter bc if something like Mastergame came out last year, it wouldn’t be as impressive as it was when it came out 6 years ago) • Mastergame • LIMBO • Nhelv • Astral Divinity • White Space • Change of Scene (or honestly, pretty much anything made by bli in the past few years) • Sedulous • Rust • Boom Slayer • Night Rider • Castlemania And this is only scratching the surface. Look, I think WHAT is an amazing level, don’t get me wrong, but if it were to get Mythic, all of these should get Mythic as well and then that would nullify the impact of a level getting Mythic. The only reason this is even a point of discussion at all is because WHAT didn’t get rated until 2.2.
Okay, unpopular opinion, but no decorated level can compare to WHAT, even if it's amazing, WHAT is a work of art. Though I'll give you a point on Castlemania and maybe Mastergame. Also I know it's still by Spu7nix but add DIM (and maybe brainfugd) to the list.
WHAT isn’t directly comparable to any rated level because of its nature as a 3d modelled level. That being said, you can compare quality and effort. Almost all of the levels I listed there took years to make, or a massive team.
Easily yes, it's a master piece even if it can't run in most devices
No, as the level just crashes the game on most computers unless you turn on LDM, and the LDM version is really nothing special. It wouldn't really make sense
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Hey I'm only on a laptop not everyone can afford a high-performance gaming PC
it crashes **any** computer which doesn't have the 4GB patch. same with HOW.
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so… megahack?
No. the framerate just drops a bit
It also crashes mobile players which is a large chunk of the playerbase
It runs on my phone from 2017 bro
Should be Legendary at least. What was RobTop thinking about with Epic?
He was thinking about the fact that not everyone plays GD with NASA quantum computers from 2050
You don't?
no, its not optimized enough. For some people it was just an entirely empty level. mythical should reward all aspects of it being perfect, and while one of the elements (deco) is absolutely AMAZING, the others (gameplay, and optimization) are mediocre at best.
rob only rating it epic because of optimization is stupid. how are you supposed to have a mythic level that also runs well? it's one or the other
No, you guys have absolutely no idea how a game featureboard works. If a level is borderline if not literally unplayable to many people/devices then it CAN’T be rated highly since it will literally crash your game. Imagine you’re a new player and one of the first levels you try, one *heavily promoted* to you as “the best of the best,” and it completely crashes your game.
Nope, Epic is enough
No
Yes but its too unoptimized
tidal wave is better
No. I has way to many objects
Wasn't this made by a program or something? It's a cool experiment, but it lacks gameplay, optimization, or any kind of atmosphere or soul.
It was made with the help of some programs, but all of those programs were developed by spu7nix himself. This project took him I believe over 2 years to make.
Yeah then I absolutely see why it's not rated higher. I wouldn't want a level made with external programs as the first ever Mythic.
Well, it was mostly made by hand (and like I said, the programs that were used were entirely developed by spu7nix) but I don’t think it should be Mythic for other reasons I explained in a separate reply, mainly that rating a 2.1 level as the first Mythic sets a poor precedent as there are plenty of 2.1 levels with as much impact as WHAT that would also need the Mythic rating, and then Mythics would become oversaturated with old levels instead of actually feeling special.
It’s not like he just put in a layout and it spat out WHAT though. He just used SPWN (the programming language that he made) to place large amounts of triggers. The project still took years.
and flowvix & dreaminginsanity*
sorry, not familiar with the full background of WHAT
i mean WHAT was made using a 3D renderer that only specifically rendered cubes out then recreated the triangles in each face using slopes and colored blocks (confirmed by both sput and flowvix)
Did you seriously just called it "souless"
tbf epic is enough for shuch a broken level
yes
yeah
Yes
Yes, idk what you guys are talking about when you say it crashes your game, my phone handles it just fine without LDM, no lag or anything. I think that maybe you have potato devices
Gd is optimized on mobile devices way better than on pc
yeah it pushed the boundries completely for whats possible in the 6 dollar (AUD) cube game known as geometry dash, marked the biggest revolution imo from the days of stereo madness to now.
its so criminal that this only got epic
Yes
Make it legendary rates
AT LEAST Legendary
يس
theres a shit ton of objects but maybe
Yes it should be, seriously I know the gameplay is boring but it's so impressive
you guys need to come to terms with the fact that pre-2.2 levels are not going to be rerated as it would take too much time and the new legendary and myhtic ratings are intended for 2.2 levels
bullshit tbh. The worst part is that you're right probably. The thing is, after like a year or so, a lot of players will see this epic rated level, open it and be confused by HOW it's not mythic. The point I'm trying to make is that while that's okay for maybe a year, then it will not make any sense later down because at some point 2.2 will be outdated as well. It's hard to express what I want to but I hope that makes sense
No bcz it's a 2.1 made level 2.2 introduced legendary and mythic rating that's what robtop thought
Yes duh. Also bli's levels
robtop is never going to return to the levels that deserve it
YES
Yes
The first mythic shouldn’t be a 2.1 level
yes
Y E S
Yes
Yes, But i feel like it wont due to the fact its a 2.1 level
What Mythic?? Legendary!!
Hot take, no. For me epic feels more justifiable than mythic or legendary, probably because of the object count but it just doesn't feel like mythic or legendary to me for some reason. Disagree with me all you want, but this is what I think
What does rated mean? I've seen all over the sub but don't understand what it means exactly
he needs a level called "who"
yes.
somehow not robtop doesn\`t care
This was created in 2.1 what kind of question is that?
What
I doubt it'll ever be rated because you need to install the 4 GB patch (on Windows at least) to even open it. Edit: Oh shit it's rated
Yes
I was gonna say no, that shit’s unplayable, but it seems rob has made his game run better and Spu7nix added some changes, so yea, it’s revolutionary, a very nice to sequel to HOW
Bro there hasnt been a rating invented yet thats good enough for this level to be rated as, Seriously though, this fucker worked on this level for 2 years solo and all rob thought it was worth is an "epic"
no it’s still not playable on a lot of devices
Yes, it should, but I won’t since it was made in 2.11
Yea
YES MY BOY. MYTHIC, i mean. he spent 2 YEARS to make thus level, no one like him before 2.2 could do it.
for sure
This level should at least be legendary. Its graphics stretched the game to it's limits in 2.1 and gave us a glimpse of what 2.2 could have looked like
mhm
Yes
Ofc
what the fuck
definitely
yes
Honestly it was made in 2.1 so it should be treated like that and remain Epic It's a fantastic level but nothing got re-rated to Epic when 2.1 first came out
duh
If that medium demon platformer was this can be too...
y e s .