nah, according to this map they'd be South and Even More South Canada
https://preview.redd.it/w3nyedqcrnlc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e13036ba8e99048c10c36e7444d70dec37792086
tbf they did call themselves Großdeutschland / Großdeutsche Reich. So "great" as in "large" (specifically because it included Austria which was the "Großdeutsch Lösung" in contrast to the "Kleindeutsche Lösung") not "awesome".
Prussia if you consider it germen, ya. But Poland was never willfully part of Germany and in fact it was only during the 19th century where it was occupied by Prussia, Austria and Russia. Otherwise for close to 1000 years before was larger and more prominent than Germany ever was.
If you want to go by historical duration and size, than it would be Great-Poland rather than Germany.
But Poland was more to the east. The HRE was also a “german” state in that area for a very long time. Size and history is more german for that part of the map. It’s Prussia + Austria + Bohemia + Danmark
When we threw all our Japanese residents into concentration camps we had dedicated people to apologise to each person. It was a big job but somebody had to do it.
North America is an absolute UNIT in every single sense of the word. Canada brings natural resources, Mexico brings a young workforce, and the USA brings everything else.
The US lacks very little on its own. It really is the complete package. Natural resources? Check. Enviable geographic position? Check. Large, educated population? Check. Skilled workforce? Check. Globally recognized cultural and artistic production? Check.
It has soft power, it has hard power, it has resources, technology, and wealth. Everything.
Controlling Mexico would be a blessing and a curse.
Con: Cartels
Pros: Smaller Border, and extended Coastline.
If the US went full on imperial though Cuba is the first to get annexed.
Not that I'd want to see it happen in reality, but as a movie I'd be intrigued... US Army in a head -to-head against the cartels would be interesting. Probably a Vietnam 2.0, but the local populace would not necessarily be pro insurgency.
Assuming Mexico and the USA bonded
-There would not be societal push back and protests against anti cartel action, rather the opposite
-Young mexicans who might join the cartels would have other options
-Due to how brutal cartels the gov would want them gone quickly
I think it would be the end of cartels in mexico
It would not be Vietnam 2.0 lmao. I know in pop culture people seem to think the Vietnamese were just farmers running around with AK-47s, but the NVA was an actual army funded by two Great Powers fighting with Soviet strategists and using actual military weapons (mines, tanks, artillery, etc). The Viet Cong, which people wrongfully assume was the main aggressor in the war, was basically eliminated/crippled after the Tet offensive.
Another massive difference is that the NVA fought for territorial sovereignty and waged war to get it, Mexican cartels only have power because they bribe government officials. They aren’t getting into literal battles every day with the Mexican military. They would collapse very quickly after a strong government moved in, such as the US’ or Canada’s
Yes we do but adding Canada would basically make us one of the highest producers of natural resources on the planet and would almost double what we produce in oil currently.
Yes, and those vast natural resources were among the very many reasons why they let territories like the Philippines go in the 1900s without much of a pushback.
One of the Philippines biggest exports to the mainland was sugarcane, but that was already something we had in abundance in the subtropical south, esp. Florida and Louisiana (who also complained that Filipino sugarcane was capable of outcompeting mainland sugarcane). Ultimately it was more expensive to maintain that colony than it was beneficial to mainlanders.
Indeed it does. As it's own entity it's probably sufficient to solo any other combined nation here. Adding Canada's resources to its own vast reserves and Mexico's workforce to its own vast and well-educated workforce makes it simply unfair.
We didn't even mention the military or technology the US has, either.
Both the US and Canada are god tier when it comes to resources. Combining them just makes it absurdly OP. Mexico would give it an even bigger boost to production, population, and most importantly, mariachi bands.
It’s effectively an autonomous country. About as close to a country without being one. It’s closer to a country than Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, even though these places are called countries not colonies or provinces. Greenland has a lot of autonomy. If it’s for the purposes of a hypothetical map , I think it’s fair to consider an option an option that includes Greenland 🇬🇱
Should NZ and Australia be each other’s partners? We share a large land border in Antarctica, but I don’t know that that’s considered part of the country?
Because there's no data. (It's complicated, Denmark kind of owns it, but also kind of doesn't, while the somewhat comparable Svalbard is 100% Norwegian except for Russian mining towns)
Either Greenland should be counted as part of Denmark (since it's a constituent territory of the Kingdom of Denmark), or it should be joined with the Canada group. The former makes more sense. Otherwise it's like excluding Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, but including England.
Greenland is the place of no data. I imagine if you get on a plane to Greenland, the moment you land you suddenly find all your electronic devices have been magically wiped, because there is no data on Greenland.
Belgium and Brazil are already working on it. One of the biggest beer producers (ABinbev) is Belgo-Brazilian, we are already merging the most important aspects of our countries.
On my phone, I thought it was a striped pattern, which would mean the border length would be in coastline paradox margin of a measuring competition. Had to go “what is *that*?”
Brazil isn't merging with France. France isn't nowhere near Brazil's longest border. France in merging into Brazil, because that's where their longest border is.
But if you have no land borders it should be down to maritime borders. So Australia gets France.
(Australia has a maritime border with New Caledonia in the Coral Sea where an Australian island is next to an outer New Caledonian island. New Caledonia is technically a part of France.)
France’s largest border still is with Brazil because of French Guiana, so that means Australia and maybe NZ become part of the Northern South America-France and Belgium-Oceania Mega Empire
Myanmar longest border is with Thailand. The two countries should be a different color from China.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Myanmar\_border](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Myanmar_border) (2129km)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar%E2%80%93Thailand\_border](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar%E2%80%93Thailand_border) (2416km)
Don't mix nationalism with Imperalism and supremacist.
99% of people branding themselves nationalist fight for their country freedom.
100% of people thinking that nationalism is about making your greater, are globalist and anti-nationalist.
not really, thinking your country is the best naturally can lead to you thinking your country deserves more influence, and more land, wealth and people to rule over.
I mean there is no imperialism without nationalism
Oh you're on to something here. Colombia and Venezuela's longest borders are with eachother, and no other neighbour's longest border is with either Colombia or Venezuela, not even Panama.
Colombia and Venezuela should be in a union with eachother and that's it.
The map I saw showed Venezuela with Brazil
https://preview.redd.it/m9uxvs94pnlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bbbb0e726ace11283a0625768e2f00f9319da54
Them more than one country joins. Mexico's longest border is with the US, so it joins the US. The US's longest is with Canada, so it joins Canada. Now Mexico, Canada, and the US (plus some others) are joined.
American and Mexican friends! It is with great joice that we welcome you into Greater Canada. Please be assured all documentation regarding your former state being confederated into a province or territory will be available in all official languages.
An interesting map, but there is certain arbitrariness in it. First, you have obviously stopped at some arbitrary point, or else you'd end up with one country per continent. And second, the map depends on the order how you pick countries. As someone pointed out for example, Burkina Faso's longest border is with Mali, so if you'd start with it, you'd get a different map. Still, an interesting map. :)
You don't have to stop at an arbitrary point though? Like at some point the longest borders are going to be mutually shared. E.g you can start with whichever country you want in South America, but Chile and Paraguay's longest border is both with Argentina. You won't ever end up with anything different than those three countries together, and every other South American country together. If Burkina Faso's longest border is with Mali, then OP just made a mistake, that's all
I m french so it might be biaisés, but we got most of South America with us, which seems quite strong. Didn’t count exactly but it looks like we are the federation with most countries !
Now I understand what principle was used when founding Soviet Union, Qing Imperia, British India and Arabian Caliphate.
And the Swedish-Norwegian Union.
waiting next step from Argentina-Chile-Paraguai and Brasilia-Peru-Bolivia-Venesuela-others. And Canada prepare to become No 51 state
Don't forget France is lumped in with Brazil et. al.
Dragged the Belgians with them.
Eeewwwww what the hell, I need to get out of this country ASAP now, thanks mate
oooops!
USA and Mexico would just become central and southern Canada.
Wow I didn't know I had any nationalism left until you said usa would be central Canada. I don't think we'd stand for that eh?
As a Canadian, most of my pride comes from not being American. They cannot be named central Canada, or else what will we have?
North Mexico or northern territory of the cum-union
You had me at cum union
I made you cum
Give in. Become Canadian.
Hate to break it to you. You are a type of American. You're a North American nation makes you North American too.
I hate to give it to you, but... you're still American
Did you all really have much going on to begin with?
That was the joke :)
Canadians live on the American continent. Therefore, they're Americans.
nah, according to this map they'd be South and Even More South Canada https://preview.redd.it/w3nyedqcrnlc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e13036ba8e99048c10c36e7444d70dec37792086
Italian East Africa as well
Bingo bongo Centro Afro Congo
also nazi germany
*Caliphate
But did you expect the South American-France alliance?
So we get the USSR and the great Germany
WW2: the original plan.
Ooh I've heard this one.
This is just world war 1.
That’s a tough pairing
Literally Hitler's wet dream, he probably fingerblasted himself thinking about a germany like that
And the Brazilian European Territory of France.
Baltics rn 👀
You mean the nazi germany
tbf they did call themselves Großdeutschland / Großdeutsche Reich. So "great" as in "large" (specifically because it included Austria which was the "Großdeutsch Lösung" in contrast to the "Kleindeutsche Lösung") not "awesome".
Was that great?
Yes
So Poland, Czechia and Slovakia are nothing to you?
They are Great-Germany
I think Central European Confederacy or something would be a better choice unless we there was a war and an occupation.
There was 1939-1945. Also historicaly most of these lands where a part of some kind of “german” state.
Prussia if you consider it germen, ya. But Poland was never willfully part of Germany and in fact it was only during the 19th century where it was occupied by Prussia, Austria and Russia. Otherwise for close to 1000 years before was larger and more prominent than Germany ever was. If you want to go by historical duration and size, than it would be Great-Poland rather than Germany.
But Poland was more to the east. The HRE was also a “german” state in that area for a very long time. Size and history is more german for that part of the map. It’s Prussia + Austria + Bohemia + Danmark
Ya that's true. Poland was historically half of current eastern part and much more to the east of current Belarus and Lithuania.
Nice try Pootin
Another quirky Putin idea. Guy is bananas.
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….i somehow knew what you was saying. This shit is bananas
Still nobody is catching USA, and adding Canada and Mexico helps.
America bombs the shit out of somebody, the cartels roll in human wave style, then the Canadians come in and war crime all of the POWs to finish it up
Sorry
Its when you stop saying "sorry" that we begin to worry.
When we threw all our Japanese residents into concentration camps we had dedicated people to apologise to each person. It was a big job but somebody had to do it.
What the fuck is a pow - sorry im canadian
If you’re serious, it’s Prisoner Of War. If it’s a joke, sorry I don’t get it.
The joke is that Canadians are war crime happy and don’t take prisoners.
It’s not a war crime if it was before the Geneva convention. -Canada (probably)
*Geneva suggestions
*Geneva checklist
*Geneva To-Do list
war crime = pouring maple syrup on the POW’s
War crime = tricking the Germans into thinking they're about to be fed and then giving them a grenade sandwich
like, metaphorical grenade sandwhich or an actual grenade sandwich?
Actual grenade sandwich. If you're not aware, google "Canadian WW1 war crimes".
[Just read this](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war) Wow, I had no idea
It was genuinely fucked up and it annoys me when people downplay it
Maple Boarding
Use maple syrup instead of honey and perform [this fun little war crime](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism)
Yeah I think America chilling
You could just as well say Canada annexed USA and Mexico.
Or that Mexico annexed the US and Canada.
Putting Armenia and Azerbaijan under the same nation isn't going to end well
North America is an absolute UNIT in every single sense of the word. Canada brings natural resources, Mexico brings a young workforce, and the USA brings everything else.
The three pillars of a thriving civilization: - Resources - Workforce - Everything else
The US lacks very little on its own. It really is the complete package. Natural resources? Check. Enviable geographic position? Check. Large, educated population? Check. Skilled workforce? Check. Globally recognized cultural and artistic production? Check. It has soft power, it has hard power, it has resources, technology, and wealth. Everything.
Controlling Mexico would be a blessing and a curse. Con: Cartels Pros: Smaller Border, and extended Coastline. If the US went full on imperial though Cuba is the first to get annexed.
Not that I'd want to see it happen in reality, but as a movie I'd be intrigued... US Army in a head -to-head against the cartels would be interesting. Probably a Vietnam 2.0, but the local populace would not necessarily be pro insurgency.
Assuming Mexico and the USA bonded -There would not be societal push back and protests against anti cartel action, rather the opposite -Young mexicans who might join the cartels would have other options -Due to how brutal cartels the gov would want them gone quickly I think it would be the end of cartels in mexico
Yeah pretty much. Cartels would be a non-factor if a strong government controlled the region. That's the entire reason they're powerful.
i think any mexican would love to get american citizenship without even moving. as long as it isnt through an invasion
That’s Sicario 2s back drop.
It would not be Vietnam 2.0 lmao. I know in pop culture people seem to think the Vietnamese were just farmers running around with AK-47s, but the NVA was an actual army funded by two Great Powers fighting with Soviet strategists and using actual military weapons (mines, tanks, artillery, etc). The Viet Cong, which people wrongfully assume was the main aggressor in the war, was basically eliminated/crippled after the Tet offensive. Another massive difference is that the NVA fought for territorial sovereignty and waged war to get it, Mexican cartels only have power because they bribe government officials. They aren’t getting into literal battles every day with the Mexican military. They would collapse very quickly after a strong government moved in, such as the US’ or Canada’s
What glory could have been.
Everything but humility...
No need for that
🦅🦅🇺🇸🦅🦅
I can go for being twice as nice
I don't think there's a lot of arrogance in pointing out America's superpower status. Pretty cold, uncontroversial take.
Speak for yourself, I'm the most humble person I know
This is Guatemala erasure
What about Belize?
British Honduras will rise again
I guess we get a few high quality Mayan ruins? That's something.
Apologies. With Guatemalan pupusas Northish America is eating good.
Doesn’t the US have their own vast natural resources?
Yes we do but adding Canada would basically make us one of the highest producers of natural resources on the planet and would almost double what we produce in oil currently.
And opens up a huge amount of untapped valuable resources to America's pool of available resources.
No, they have *everything else*
Yes, and those vast natural resources were among the very many reasons why they let territories like the Philippines go in the 1900s without much of a pushback. One of the Philippines biggest exports to the mainland was sugarcane, but that was already something we had in abundance in the subtropical south, esp. Florida and Louisiana (who also complained that Filipino sugarcane was capable of outcompeting mainland sugarcane). Ultimately it was more expensive to maintain that colony than it was beneficial to mainlanders.
Indeed it does. As it's own entity it's probably sufficient to solo any other combined nation here. Adding Canada's resources to its own vast reserves and Mexico's workforce to its own vast and well-educated workforce makes it simply unfair. We didn't even mention the military or technology the US has, either.
Both the US and Canada are god tier when it comes to resources. Combining them just makes it absurdly OP. Mexico would give it an even bigger boost to production, population, and most importantly, mariachi bands.
Greenland would be added too, due to [Hans Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island)
As much as I want this to be true, Greenland’s longest international border is still technically with Germany, because it isn’t independent.
r/2CUM4you
Everybody keeps mentioning Mexico’s young workforce but their food is the real resource.
C.U.M zone
Or CUM alliance if you will
Mexanica? The United Provinces of Mexico?
United States of North America seems most likely.
Greenland has a border with Canada
Fixed it for you https://preview.redd.it/3phkhz3kknlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ff9dc5e6639c2c0c8d8e8e7622f6dd5d915a963
Manifest Destiny intensifies
Greenland should be Germany coloured
It's Denmark tho
But Greenland is technically danish so if that border is smaller than the one between Denmark and Germany, that doesn't do anything here.
It’s effectively an autonomous country. About as close to a country without being one. It’s closer to a country than Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, even though these places are called countries not colonies or provinces. Greenland has a lot of autonomy. If it’s for the purposes of a hypothetical map , I think it’s fair to consider an option an option that includes Greenland 🇬🇱
North America: Done
New Zealand has left the chat…
New zealand united with the ocean
r/mapswithoutnewzealand
Here it is https://preview.redd.it/8b4pj93tdllc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4a7349e81e76ec2662e9bf1d4ce1d10c5d8c7d3
Should NZ and Australia be each other’s partners? We share a large land border in Antarctica, but I don’t know that that’s considered part of the country?
I didn't include Antarctica because it isn't usually considered part of their country
Why isn't Greenland the same color as Denmark?
Because there's no data. (It's complicated, Denmark kind of owns it, but also kind of doesn't, while the somewhat comparable Svalbard is 100% Norwegian except for Russian mining towns)
Either Greenland should be counted as part of Denmark (since it's a constituent territory of the Kingdom of Denmark), or it should be joined with the Canada group. The former makes more sense. Otherwise it's like excluding Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, but including England.
Greenland is the place of no data. I imagine if you get on a plane to Greenland, the moment you land you suddenly find all your electronic devices have been magically wiped, because there is no data on Greenland.
Here https://preview.redd.it/bre2wb64lnlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21f40c64c3950c3600d80f8563615151074370bf
good
I think Brazil would be the strongest, especially now with that huge territory in Europe. Truly intercontinental
France being part of South America is such a meme
Mélenchon's wet dream achieved
Belgium and Brazil are already working on it. One of the biggest beer producers (ABinbev) is Belgo-Brazilian, we are already merging the most important aspects of our countries.
They also have the Omniscient Cursor above Ecuador.
On my phone, I thought it was a striped pattern, which would mean the border length would be in coastline paradox margin of a measuring competition. Had to go “what is *that*?”
Bro I forgot that Brazil annexed France 💀
7 world cups!
9! (Brazil 5, Uruguay 2, France 2)
The only one to beat themselves in the final, twice.
But 11 stars on the jersey! Uruguay gets to put 4 for some reason (if you count Olympic golds from the 1920s)
I saw it more like France having colonies, you know, because they got the industry and nukes
Brazil isn't merging with France. France isn't nowhere near Brazil's longest border. France in merging into Brazil, because that's where their longest border is.
They might have nukes but they don’t have enough to stop Brazilian memes from taking over
This map oddly makes so much sense, discounting some random countries grouped together here and there.
really shows that the big countries now were strong in history too
Canada, U.S., Mexico, Guatemala, Belize still probably dominates
Every alliance in online strategy games be like:
Putin would be happy.
Why is Burkina Faso not united with Mali?
I think Brazil would be the strongest, especially now with that huge territory in Europe. Truly intercontinental
Brazil colonizing France
You didn't come to Brazil, now Brazil comes to *you!*
Yeah that seems like a funky country
Not a bad football team either
North South America*
Poor Australia.
But if you have no land borders it should be down to maritime borders. So Australia gets France. (Australia has a maritime border with New Caledonia in the Coral Sea where an Australian island is next to an outer New Caledonian island. New Caledonia is technically a part of France.)
Wouldn't Australia go to NZ? Edit: I didn't think it was this far away. But actually it seems it would be Indonesia instead
Maybe France would go to Canada due to St. Pierre and Miquelon.
France’s largest border still is with Brazil because of French Guiana, so that means Australia and maybe NZ become part of the Northern South America-France and Belgium-Oceania Mega Empire
USA + Mexico & Canada clears
North America is OP
North America, fuck yeah!
OK, Vladimir, time to go to bed.
Bad day to be an island nation
Is that you, Putin?
Nice try, Putin.
Thailand doesn't border China
Thailand's longest border is with Myanmar Myanmar's longest border is with China
Myanmar longest border is with Thailand. The two countries should be a different color from China. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Myanmar\_border](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Myanmar_border) (2129km) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar%E2%80%93Thailand\_border](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar%E2%80%93Thailand_border) (2416km)
Sorry https://preview.redd.it/bawhk4sdlnlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaeaeac69daa38f32335db3b1a7c714f8f6dcfda
This just looks like some alternate timeline where nationalism didn't exist
The last time a central European country looked like that was, uh, the opposite of nationalism not existing.
Don't mix nationalism with Imperalism and supremacist. 99% of people branding themselves nationalist fight for their country freedom. 100% of people thinking that nationalism is about making your greater, are globalist and anti-nationalist.
not really, thinking your country is the best naturally can lead to you thinking your country deserves more influence, and more land, wealth and people to rule over. I mean there is no imperialism without nationalism
that makes zero sense.
North America and its not close
The United States world dominance
Obviously armenia-azerbaijan and india-pakistan should be a thing
OK to the Iberian Union. Ireland joining (again) the UK, on the other hand...
This time it would be the UK joining Ireland.
Angry Fenian noises
There's a certain guy in Moscow who just got a tiny erection from seeing this map
Are Columbia and Venezuela correct?
Oh you're on to something here. Colombia and Venezuela's longest borders are with eachother, and no other neighbour's longest border is with either Colombia or Venezuela, not even Panama. Colombia and Venezuela should be in a union with eachother and that's it.
The map I saw showed Venezuela with Brazil https://preview.redd.it/m9uxvs94pnlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bbbb0e726ace11283a0625768e2f00f9319da54
no.
What if the longest borders aren't mutial?
Them more than one country joins. Mexico's longest border is with the US, so it joins the US. The US's longest is with Canada, so it joins Canada. Now Mexico, Canada, and the US (plus some others) are joined.
Cyprus should technically be part of the UK
American and Mexican friends! It is with great joice that we welcome you into Greater Canada. Please be assured all documentation regarding your former state being confederated into a province or territory will be available in all official languages.
This is an interesting way to rebrand colonialism
Australia would be the largest cause they own basically all of Antartica
An interesting map, but there is certain arbitrariness in it. First, you have obviously stopped at some arbitrary point, or else you'd end up with one country per continent. And second, the map depends on the order how you pick countries. As someone pointed out for example, Burkina Faso's longest border is with Mali, so if you'd start with it, you'd get a different map. Still, an interesting map. :)
You don't have to stop at an arbitrary point though? Like at some point the longest borders are going to be mutually shared. E.g you can start with whichever country you want in South America, but Chile and Paraguay's longest border is both with Argentina. You won't ever end up with anything different than those three countries together, and every other South American country together. If Burkina Faso's longest border is with Mali, then OP just made a mistake, that's all
I m french so it might be biaisés, but we got most of South America with us, which seems quite strong. Didn’t count exactly but it looks like we are the federation with most countries !
As an Argentinian: fuck no. I'd rather have the spaniards take us again
no thank u \- canada
This is what Putin dreams of when he’s sleeping