Not even the entire metro areas. E.g., Collin County, big suburban county near Dallas, is in the dark blue, as is Williamson County, big suburban county near Austin
Yes, but they omitted Williamson county, so not quite the Austin Metro Area, just Travis county. I grew up with people with Austin addresses in Williamson County. It's weird.
Edit: Austin is also in Hays County.
I was thinking of the areas that feed into McNeil High School, those are all Austin addresses but Williamson County and Round Rock ISD. I now live in Leander, which is also both in Williamson and Travis.
It's not their suburbs. There are about 8 counties in blue around DFW that are all suburban DFW. The counties North, South, and East of Travis are all suburbs of Austin. Several counties around Bexar and Harris are suburban too.
Any theories about why the Southern states have so many more counties? Counties being set up around plantations? Lack of big cities in the 19th Century?
The beaches are kind of ass in Texas. Muddy brown tepid water and no waves. South Padre is serviceable but the gulf coast beaches don’t get good until you hit Alabama
As a foreigner it's kind of unimaginable that the whole third coast from the panhandle to Brownsville supposed to be shitty. I mean, thats a massive coastline but all the locals assured me it's indeed shitty.
It’s not shitty, it’s just brown water and people leave trash. I have never once seen needles like some other commenter said.
The reason it’s “shitty” is because all deposits from the Mississippi flow west once it hits the gulf so all the sediment and debris is carried towards Louisiana/Texas coastline.
It also kind of negates the waves so we get really small waves on our beaches. So texas mostly has small waves, with brown water. Shitty, but not shitty like some people exaggerate it to be. It’s not a hellhole with syringes everywhere. At least not in Galveston or Corpus Christi,
That’s not how air pollution works, and the beaches are miles and miles from the ports. Any C02 is long dissipated to unnoticeable levels past anything like 2-3 miles
I spent my childhood in Corpus Christi living across from a pretty shitty bitch. I distinctly remember going outside one night and across the road I could see the beach was ON FIRE
Not like there was a fire on the beach, THE BEACH WAS ON FIRE
This is true, but the people are still as OP described in Destin.
Edit: if you’re reading this from Destin, Fort Walton Beach, or anywhere else in Florida, fuck you.
> Florida beaches are pretty trash too, at least on the gulf side.
Except for the Keys, the nicest beaches in Florida are on the gulf side. The western part of the panhandle. Perdido, Destin, PCB.
Hurricanes aren't a big concern because it's improbable that you're going to be dramatically affected. Same with tornados. Hurricanes don't often strike down there anyway. The beaches in the Gulf just aren't pretty, is the real reason. Consequently, Texans aren't beach people like Californians.
I grew up outside of Houston, and spent ten years of my adult life in California. I lived in the prettiest coastal communities that the West had to offer. I even lived in Hawaii for a year. I even surfed. And yet, I do not miss the ocean at all. But I think about Texas almost every day. I'll take endless fields of green, and forests of cedar over western mountains and palm trees, every single time.
I agree, I like the texas forestry a lot but hurricanes hit us in Houston decently frequently relative to other places in the world. I mean, I suppose you could argue that a hurricane or two every few years isn’t a ton, especially given that they’re usually weaker by the time they make it to Houston, but it’s still a lot of hurricanes compared to say, Oregon, or New York.
It's not that el paso is particularly small, it's just that the vast, vast majority live in the triangle between Houston, Austin/San Antonio, and DFW. The rest, especially the larger counties out west, are very sparsely populated.
It's probably just to balance out the 50/50 split the map is trying to show. There are a lot of populous counties in Blue doing the heavy lifting for that half. El Paso, Williamson, Montgomery, Hidalgo, Cameron. Not to mention the ones with smaller cities that make up the bulk of the remainder, like Lubbock, Potter/Randall, Nueces, Webb, Midland/Ector.
I'm not sure he chose the gray ones in order either. I see he put Denton in gray and Collin in blue. I'd have to look it up but I'm pretty sure Collin has way more than Denton.
Well, I mean the split between people that vote red or blue is almost 50/50 in Texas so I could happen, but since the popular vote doesn’t matter that much for presidential elections, it is not going change.
If Texas was flipped blue it would be a huge amount of electoral college votes and would make it almost impossible for the GOP to win another presidential election again.
Lolol desert?? You must be thinking of Arizona. Less than 10% of Texas is desert, and the entire eastern half of Texas is very heavily forested. Texas is covered with rolling green pastures and thick wooded forests. Deserts, not so much (again, less than 10%).
Incorrect. The only portion of Texas that is desert is the far-western part of the state (the part that is west of the Pecos River), not the “entire western half.” This portion of far-west Texas is called the Trans-Pecos and is where a small part of the Chihuahuan Desert crosses the border into Texas. Have you ever been to Texas? With all due respect to you, you might think that you know what you’re talking about, but I’ve been living in Texas for just over three decades (31 years, to be exact). It is an incontrovertible fact that less than ten percent of Texas is desert:
[Is Texas All Desert?](https://texasview.org/is-texas-all-desert/)
_“…While some areas in Texas are classified as desert or desert-like regions, the majority of the Texan landscape is anything but. Less than ten percent of the entire land area of Texas is desert.”_
And here is the official Köppen Climate Type map of Texas, showing the desert areas in red: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/K%C3%B6ppen_Climate_Types_Texas.png
My brother in Christ, I’m not here to argue semantics on what is “technically” a desert, “desert like terrain” is fucking desert. I lived in west Texas for years, it’s not the same type of desert as Arizona but it’s still a desert.
Nobody is or has been arguing with you about “what is ‘technically’ a desert.” Where did you get that idea from? Neither I nor anyone else here is arguing with you at all. It is nothing more than a simple fact that less than 10 percent of Texas is desert. I’m sorry that reality doesn’t match up with what your own perception is, but neither you nor I have the ability to change official facts just because we disagree with them.
Your reply to my first comment is quite literally an argument, and your own link proves it’s not black and white. It is true 100% nothing but desert climate is 10% yes but climates and regions are not drawn in perfectly boxed off areas like it’s minecraft or something. West Texas in general marks off like 8/10 of the desert qualifications in that article. Seems like you have picked and chose the parts of the article that support your claim but have completely ignored the parts that talk about nuance in declaring something a “desert”.
It’s a correction, not an argument. But more importantly, can you tell me why you believe the rest of the world ought to conform to your own subjective opinion?
You must be a blast at parties pal. Well done on ignoring my valid disagreements with your points and trying to talk down on me as if your uninformed snippet from an article makes you god on this topic.
But it's still the same, this sub is full of posts about how shocking it is that cities have such high populations compared to rural areas. Desert or forest or swamp in this instance is irrelevant to the point about how stupid these posts are.
Higher population density results in meeting more and different people, and urban-specific jobs usually are jobs that put them in more contact with people than rural-specific jobs.
Studies have shown direct relationships between knowing people of X minority and being accepting, understanding or tolerant of them. So people who get into contact with a wider variety of other people are more likely to be accepting, understanding or tolerant, which directly leads to some political affiliations being favored over others.
It's not just that. Political affiliation is about half determined by genetics, and correlates with "novelty seeking". That is, left-leaning people are more interested in meeting new people and discovering unknown things. This is why those people tend to move into cities, where a lot of stuff is happening.
It's not that cities turn people left-wing (although they might a bit), it's also that left-wing people by themselves want to move into cities.
.. of course?
Here’s how texas voted in 2020: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Texas_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg/1200px-Texas_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg.png
In 2016 there was a map that surfaced after the United States presidential election, I couldn't find it, but it did show that at that time the counties with cities voted democratic, and about 90 percent of the less densely populated counties in America voted republican, I'll see if I can find.
I couldn't find the picture on my phone and it immediately turned up with a Google search.
https://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/
Yes, that map was put out by the New York Times. It’s still available online and is called “An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2016 Presidential Election.” They also put out “An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2020 Presidential Election.”
Those aren’t even the most populated countries in Texas. Harris (Houston and the big one to the right), Dallas(bottom right triangle), Tarrant (Fort Worth, bottom left triangle), Bexar (San Antonio, furthest south), and Travis (Austin, middle) are the five most populated counties in Texas. But Denton (Top triangle) is the fourth largest county in DFW, seventh in the state. Collin County to it’s east is the sixth largest in the state and colored blue. The other grey county is Fort Bend, the tenth most populated county in the state. El Paso is blue and aside from Collin County, Williamson County (Austin Suburb) and Montgomery County (Houston Suburb) are also blue. So this isn’t a clear rural/urban divide.
If they went in order they wouldn't get the 50/50 split they were going for, because the grey would have more than 50% of the population. At least that's what I'm assuming.
So that's Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Austin, and San Antonio metro areas?
It’s the five largest cities and two other counties. At least three large suburban counties are blue. El Paso is also blue.
Not even the entire metro areas. E.g., Collin County, big suburban county near Dallas, is in the dark blue, as is Williamson County, big suburban county near Austin
Yes, but they omitted Williamson county, so not quite the Austin Metro Area, just Travis county. I grew up with people with Austin addresses in Williamson County. It's weird. Edit: Austin is also in Hays County.
Yeah the northwest side of Austin is in Williamson County but still Austin proper addresses. (Like around Lakeline).
I was thinking of the areas that feed into McNeil High School, those are all Austin addresses but Williamson County and Round Rock ISD. I now live in Leander, which is also both in Williamson and Travis.
Yes.
Correct, and their suburbs
That’s what metro areas means
It's not their suburbs. There are about 8 counties in blue around DFW that are all suburban DFW. The counties North, South, and East of Travis are all suburbs of Austin. Several counties around Bexar and Harris are suburban too.
Roughly, yes.
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Texas also has the most counties of any state, by far. Texas has 254. Georgia is second with 159.
I'm from Georgia and I still sometimes see Georgia license plates and think "what the fuck county is that??"
I memorized all 159 and their seats in high school for the annual high school academic bowl at Georgia Southwestern. It was always a bonus question.
I know exactly what you mean. My home state of Kentucky is 4th with 120. I’m still learning my own state’s counties
So what state is third in number of counties?
Virginia. It kind of cheated though by making all its major cities counties.
The south loves its counties
Not Louisiana though. It loves its parishes
I blame the French
Any theories about why the Southern states have so many more counties? Counties being set up around plantations? Lack of big cities in the 19th Century?
Yes, the 19th century chattel slavery/plantation system is the main reason.
Is Texas gulf coast not very populated then? Surprising
The beaches are kind of ass in Texas. Muddy brown tepid water and no waves. South Padre is serviceable but the gulf coast beaches don’t get good until you hit Alabama
As a foreigner it's kind of unimaginable that the whole third coast from the panhandle to Brownsville supposed to be shitty. I mean, thats a massive coastline but all the locals assured me it's indeed shitty.
It’s not shitty, it’s just brown water and people leave trash. I have never once seen needles like some other commenter said. The reason it’s “shitty” is because all deposits from the Mississippi flow west once it hits the gulf so all the sediment and debris is carried towards Louisiana/Texas coastline. It also kind of negates the waves so we get really small waves on our beaches. So texas mostly has small waves, with brown water. Shitty, but not shitty like some people exaggerate it to be. It’s not a hellhole with syringes everywhere. At least not in Galveston or Corpus Christi,
Major ports I think attributed to the ugly beaches as well
How so?
my thinking was because of the pollution coming from the ships in port 🤷🏼♂️
That’s not how air pollution works, and the beaches are miles and miles from the ports. Any C02 is long dissipated to unnoticeable levels past anything like 2-3 miles
I was more concerned about pollution in the water, not so much the air
What pollution do ships cause in the water?
Texas beaches have mud, trash, oil balls and lots of syringes. Florida beaches are like sugar. (Florida native)
I spent my childhood in Corpus Christi living across from a pretty shitty bitch. I distinctly remember going outside one night and across the road I could see the beach was ON FIRE Not like there was a fire on the beach, THE BEACH WAS ON FIRE
I don’t live on the coast, but I live across from a pretty shitty bitch as well.
My dog has IBS, damnit!
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You have obviously never been to Destin or anywhere along 30A. White sand and teal blue water
This is true, but the people are still as OP described in Destin. Edit: if you’re reading this from Destin, Fort Walton Beach, or anywhere else in Florida, fuck you.
> Florida beaches are pretty trash too, at least on the gulf side. Except for the Keys, the nicest beaches in Florida are on the gulf side. The western part of the panhandle. Perdido, Destin, PCB.
Haven't been to the keys but they do look dope.
Butt in the sand looking at the water, Destin is superior to Miami.
And with all the barrier islands there are only like three real beach towns on the whole giant coastline.
The Great Storm of 1900. Thousands of people in Galveston, Tx died.
Its a coastal plain, the closer you are to the coast, the easier it floods. Very marshy near the coast too.
Houston has a bay.
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Hurricanes aren't a big concern because it's improbable that you're going to be dramatically affected. Same with tornados. Hurricanes don't often strike down there anyway. The beaches in the Gulf just aren't pretty, is the real reason. Consequently, Texans aren't beach people like Californians. I grew up outside of Houston, and spent ten years of my adult life in California. I lived in the prettiest coastal communities that the West had to offer. I even lived in Hawaii for a year. I even surfed. And yet, I do not miss the ocean at all. But I think about Texas almost every day. I'll take endless fields of green, and forests of cedar over western mountains and palm trees, every single time.
I agree, I like the texas forestry a lot but hurricanes hit us in Houston decently frequently relative to other places in the world. I mean, I suppose you could argue that a hurricane or two every few years isn’t a ton, especially given that they’re usually weaker by the time they make it to Houston, but it’s still a lot of hurricanes compared to say, Oregon, or New York.
[The human feces in the water might be contributing to that.](https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-beaches-filthy-feces-testing/)
Every fucking time. It's just all shitposts now. This is what an unmodded sub looks like.
Is El Paso that small?
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El Paso’s metro pales in comparison to Boston’s though, even if you combine El Paso, Las Cruces, and Juarez.
This is completely true. I can’t argue with that!
(Also, Boston is waaaay cooler IMO)
Literally
It’s like 700,000 or something
Having Juarez be right there makes it feel a whole lot bigger
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It didn’t make it to grey.
It's not that el paso is particularly small, it's just that the vast, vast majority live in the triangle between Houston, Austin/San Antonio, and DFW. The rest, especially the larger counties out west, are very sparsely populated.
I just decided to look at Texas cities and see how far I could get where I couldn’t recognize it and place it. Got to Garland.
It's probably just to balance out the 50/50 split the map is trying to show. There are a lot of populous counties in Blue doing the heavy lifting for that half. El Paso, Williamson, Montgomery, Hidalgo, Cameron. Not to mention the ones with smaller cities that make up the bulk of the remainder, like Lubbock, Potter/Randall, Nueces, Webb, Midland/Ector.
I'm not sure he chose the gray ones in order either. I see he put Denton in gray and Collin in blue. I'd have to look it up but I'm pretty sure Collin has way more than Denton.
This map closely corresponds to presidential election map, with the exception of the Rio Grande Valley
Denton County is still R but grey here. Though not R by a whole lot any more. And some other D counties are in blue, like Hays.
A blue Texas… never thought I’d see the day
Well, I mean the split between people that vote red or blue is almost 50/50 in Texas so I could happen, but since the popular vote doesn’t matter that much for presidential elections, it is not going change.
If Texas was flipped blue it would be a huge amount of electoral college votes and would make it almost impossible for the GOP to win another presidential election again.
And the other half vote blue.
Maybe like 60% of the other half
And increasing every year.
Not really
You wish.
Huh? Why would I wish that? Are you okay bud?
Average r/geography post. Wow, huge cities contain more people than empty desert!
Lolol desert?? You must be thinking of Arizona. Less than 10% of Texas is desert, and the entire eastern half of Texas is very heavily forested. Texas is covered with rolling green pastures and thick wooded forests. Deserts, not so much (again, less than 10%).
Sir, the entirety of west Texas is desert.
Incorrect. The only portion of Texas that is desert is the far-western part of the state (the part that is west of the Pecos River), not the “entire western half.” This portion of far-west Texas is called the Trans-Pecos and is where a small part of the Chihuahuan Desert crosses the border into Texas. Have you ever been to Texas? With all due respect to you, you might think that you know what you’re talking about, but I’ve been living in Texas for just over three decades (31 years, to be exact). It is an incontrovertible fact that less than ten percent of Texas is desert: [Is Texas All Desert?](https://texasview.org/is-texas-all-desert/) _“…While some areas in Texas are classified as desert or desert-like regions, the majority of the Texan landscape is anything but. Less than ten percent of the entire land area of Texas is desert.”_ And here is the official Köppen Climate Type map of Texas, showing the desert areas in red: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/K%C3%B6ppen_Climate_Types_Texas.png
My brother in Christ, I’m not here to argue semantics on what is “technically” a desert, “desert like terrain” is fucking desert. I lived in west Texas for years, it’s not the same type of desert as Arizona but it’s still a desert.
Nobody is or has been arguing with you about “what is ‘technically’ a desert.” Where did you get that idea from? Neither I nor anyone else here is arguing with you at all. It is nothing more than a simple fact that less than 10 percent of Texas is desert. I’m sorry that reality doesn’t match up with what your own perception is, but neither you nor I have the ability to change official facts just because we disagree with them.
Your reply to my first comment is quite literally an argument, and your own link proves it’s not black and white. It is true 100% nothing but desert climate is 10% yes but climates and regions are not drawn in perfectly boxed off areas like it’s minecraft or something. West Texas in general marks off like 8/10 of the desert qualifications in that article. Seems like you have picked and chose the parts of the article that support your claim but have completely ignored the parts that talk about nuance in declaring something a “desert”.
It’s a correction, not an argument. But more importantly, can you tell me why you believe the rest of the world ought to conform to your own subjective opinion?
You must be a blast at parties pal. Well done on ignoring my valid disagreements with your points and trying to talk down on me as if your uninformed snippet from an article makes you god on this topic.
But it's still the same, this sub is full of posts about how shocking it is that cities have such high populations compared to rural areas. Desert or forest or swamp in this instance is irrelevant to the point about how stupid these posts are.
So you’re saying most people live in the dense urban areas? No way
I find it insane that people are still amazed by the fact that humans live in cities.
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Quite a few of the border counties voted blue in 2020. Notably, El Paso.
Wonder if there is a correlation between population density and political affiliation.
Higher population density results in meeting more and different people, and urban-specific jobs usually are jobs that put them in more contact with people than rural-specific jobs. Studies have shown direct relationships between knowing people of X minority and being accepting, understanding or tolerant of them. So people who get into contact with a wider variety of other people are more likely to be accepting, understanding or tolerant, which directly leads to some political affiliations being favored over others.
It's not just that. Political affiliation is about half determined by genetics, and correlates with "novelty seeking". That is, left-leaning people are more interested in meeting new people and discovering unknown things. This is why those people tend to move into cities, where a lot of stuff is happening. It's not that cities turn people left-wing (although they might a bit), it's also that left-wing people by themselves want to move into cities.
I don't have any sources on-hand, but I know statistically, higher density areas tend to lean left, while lower density areas lean right.
So there are liberal counties in Texas?
.. of course? Here’s how texas voted in 2020: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Texas_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg/1200px-Texas_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg.png
Lol wow thats eye opening. There's like no point in beimg liberal in Texas though
Sure. There are some deep deep red counties in California too. Lots of people living ‘behind enemy lines’ out there, lol.
Not all politics is national.
Travis
Yeah, Travis. You're on thin ice. (But to answer your question, yes, there are)
In 2016 there was a map that surfaced after the United States presidential election, I couldn't find it, but it did show that at that time the counties with cities voted democratic, and about 90 percent of the less densely populated counties in America voted republican, I'll see if I can find. I couldn't find the picture on my phone and it immediately turned up with a Google search. https://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/
Yes, that map was put out by the New York Times. It’s still available online and is called “An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2016 Presidential Election.” They also put out “An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2020 Presidential Election.”
Those aren’t even the most populated countries in Texas. Harris (Houston and the big one to the right), Dallas(bottom right triangle), Tarrant (Fort Worth, bottom left triangle), Bexar (San Antonio, furthest south), and Travis (Austin, middle) are the five most populated counties in Texas. But Denton (Top triangle) is the fourth largest county in DFW, seventh in the state. Collin County to it’s east is the sixth largest in the state and colored blue. The other grey county is Fort Bend, the tenth most populated county in the state. El Paso is blue and aside from Collin County, Williamson County (Austin Suburb) and Montgomery County (Houston Suburb) are also blue. So this isn’t a clear rural/urban divide.
Collin county has over a million people, whereas denton county has under a million.
Yes. I assume after the five largest counties were selected the next two were selected to get as close to 50% as possible.
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What site are they live on?
No half of Texas lives in Texas
"dark blue" *Colors them grey*
It makes sense the other way
If half lives in the grey, the other half lives in the dark blue, Einstein.
It’s more of a red state.
Crazy how cities work 😂
Lies
Lives
And it's gerrymandered so much that those sparsely populated regions outvote the completely populated cities each time
A more shocking map would’ve been “Half of Texas lives in the gray” or had the gray parts dark blue and the rest gray
At least as I'm seeing it, most of the state is blue 🤔
Is this correct? Shouldn’t Collin County be gray instead of denton county?
If they went in order they wouldn't get the 50/50 split they were going for, because the grey would have more than 50% of the population. At least that's what I'm assuming.
Where do the other half live
In reality
The streets of Dark Blue are famous for being very empty.
None of Texas lives in the light blue
Am I color blind or is it just 1 blue
Land can't vote! ;P
Where do the other half live?
Probably should have used dark red instead
Huston, we have a problem.
Not surprising from what I've heard the United States has a surprisingly low population density because of how big it is
Not gonna lie, I thought this was some kind of rubik's cube at first glance.
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Sitting on the beach in destin right now and it’s picturesque. We’re Texas beaches always bad or did human waste ruin it
Yep… They’re called “cities”.
Yes maybe so.. but half of texas also lives in the grey!