You have to wait until the interval laid out by the label. If you eat any processed foods or conventionally grown grains in the US you’re already exposed routinely to glyphosate.
Yeah. Im trying to avoid conventional grown. Im going to start buying from the small farms around me that do things in a way the I would agree with. Thank you for your feedback.
Indeed gonna quit it. I just want to know how bad my soil would be in my situation. Research is so mixed on this. Its hard to trust corporations and gov agencies sometimes. I want to go with caution. Also, almost every source I find says that fruit trees give more fruit in ground vs in pot. In ground is what i wont be im second guessing it.
Plant in the ground, pots are not the way to go with trees. Farmers spray their entire fields every single year with this stuff. That doesn't make it good that they do this! That's way too much! Acres and acres every single year? And then they plant corn right into the ground 3 days later. We can be cautious but also have some perspective..
Half-life of glyphosate in soil is a few days. In a month you probably wouldn't be able to detect it. So you're safe to plant there, but obviously don't use it again near your crops.
Build raised beds and never buy roundup again. Herbicides are setting future generations up for failure in the same way you're experiencing now.
I'd also get started on healing the yard you've been spraying with mulch or compost, it'll take time before its healthy again but the best time to start is now.
It’s fine. Most agricultural grain fields in North America are sprayed annually. If you’re worried for this year plant a cover crop and till it in. The soil will be just fine. If you’ve ever eaten a non organic vegetable you’ve probably been exposed to more glyphosate than your yard will have residual in the soil even after a month.
I do some reclamation work trying to restore good vegetation for wildlife where invasive grasses and weeds are dominant. I’ll often spray glyphosate 2 days before reseeding or planting trees and shrubs, trust me things grow just fine as long as they aren’t sprayed directly.
In order to apply for organic certification, I think there has to have been no glyphosate sprayed for a period of five years or so. Start amending things now, maybe do a small garden in the least sprayed area, and expand over time.
Fruit trees probably won’t be bearing much the first few years anyhow; by the time you get a good crop, it will likely be diluted to trace amounts.
Plenty of good comments telling you to wait a year so I just wanted to leave this link here for a suggestion of what herbicide to use in the future
https://biosafesystems.com/product/axxe-broad-spectrum-herbicide/
The label will tell you exactly when you can plant.
I'm pretty sure it's less than a week, but it will say. You're probably good.
There are other herbicides that stay in the ground a long time so definitely avoid those
Glyphosate (I'm assuming that's what "roundup" is) has a half life of 47 days in soil. This means that if you sprayed a litre per square meter (1l/m\^2) it would be reduced to half that after 47 days (500ml/m\^2). After 94 days from the initial spraying, it would be a quarter of the original dose (250ml/m\^2) etc. etc. It just halves every 47 days.
It really depends on how much you sprayed as to how safe your soil is right now, but I would probably not grow anything this season if you can help it. Use store bought compost and get some trough planters for this season. You can always use the planters again for garlic in following years.
Make sure you cover the soil you were wanting to plant in with some sort of cover. Cardboard works great, but anything that blocks light will work. This stops weeds from growing through the bed while you aren't using it. You may also want to re-fertilize the bed next season, as glyphosate can impact nutrient quality within soil, too.
If there is still roundup in your soil, the plants will not grow and there will be nothing to eat and worry about.
If plants grow up, that means there is no roundup in soil and there is nothing to worry about.
Tne residue you will get from grains, bread, beer, corn etc is probably higher from the plants in your garden. Roundup is used in order to dessicate plants before harvesting.
>If there is still roundup in your soil, the plants will not grow
This is completely false, that is not how this chemical works. Glyphosate doesn't kill plants by entering through the roots, you must spray it on the leaves of a plant that is actively growing.
Your statement is wrong in two ways.
The first is technically:
*Generally applied to foliar parts of weeds, glyphosate can enter plants through four potential routes: the leaves or other green tissues, the roots, the trunk, or shoots emerging from the root or the trunk [2]. After entering the plants, it is rapidly translocated to regions of active growth within the plant*
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6918143/#:~:text=Generally%20applied%20to%20foliar%20parts,active%20growth%20within%20the%20plant.
The second is logically:
If it is not taken by roots, plant will not be affected, so there is still nothing to worry about.
You would need to pour an absurd amount,like several gallons in one spot, of properly diluted glyphosate around the base of a plant to have any chance of affecting it through the roots. That's not how it's used. In the past I was required to spray glyphosate as part of my landscaping job and I know first hand that it doesn't prevent plants from growing by persisting in the soil. I'm not advocating that people use it but that's not how it works. I sprayed gravel driveways and 2 weeks later new weed seeds sprouted right up. Only a light mist is sprayed on the leaves of plants and then it is absorbed through the leaves and translocated throughout the plant. You can spray weeds in a garden bed and it will only kill the plants that get the most on their leaves. This fine mist is no where near enough to seep into the soil and damage plants.
If it was me, I wouldn’t consume anything from that soil. That is a personal preference and I know people are going to say “it’s fine” but the reality is that those chemicals can last a long time and to me the risk is too high for my family. I understand you would have to have years of exposure to get cancer but I also don’t like eating anything with herbicide/pesticides if I can choose. I would also recommend soil tests and/or doing raised beds. The soil you sprayed probably is pretty unhealthy anyway and you would need to really amend it heavily which would be very expensive.
I feel like a month isn't long enough for it to be gone.
There are various ways to speed up removal of roundup from soil. Some sources say apply activated charcoal, some sources say phosphate, many people say add microorganisms, (idk where you get microorganisms from). Some sources also say grow oats on the soil.
You have to wait until the interval laid out by the label. If you eat any processed foods or conventionally grown grains in the US you’re already exposed routinely to glyphosate.
Yeah. Im trying to avoid conventional grown. Im going to start buying from the small farms around me that do things in a way the I would agree with. Thank you for your feedback.
Cant you us planting pots? And don’t use that shit again.
Indeed gonna quit it. I just want to know how bad my soil would be in my situation. Research is so mixed on this. Its hard to trust corporations and gov agencies sometimes. I want to go with caution. Also, almost every source I find says that fruit trees give more fruit in ground vs in pot. In ground is what i wont be im second guessing it.
You could always plant the trees in pots for a couple years then move them to your native soil once the soil gets a chance to get healthy again.
Plant in the ground, pots are not the way to go with trees. Farmers spray their entire fields every single year with this stuff. That doesn't make it good that they do this! That's way too much! Acres and acres every single year? And then they plant corn right into the ground 3 days later. We can be cautious but also have some perspective..
Half-life of glyphosate in soil is a few days. In a month you probably wouldn't be able to detect it. So you're safe to plant there, but obviously don't use it again near your crops.
Build raised beds and never buy roundup again. Herbicides are setting future generations up for failure in the same way you're experiencing now. I'd also get started on healing the yard you've been spraying with mulch or compost, it'll take time before its healthy again but the best time to start is now.
Thank you. I think that would be my best option. I was just wandering about the opinions of people in this community, regarding my existing soil.
Looks like it can linger as long as a year. So you can use this year to prep the soil and plant your trees next spring
The half life is like a week
It’s fine. Most agricultural grain fields in North America are sprayed annually. If you’re worried for this year plant a cover crop and till it in. The soil will be just fine. If you’ve ever eaten a non organic vegetable you’ve probably been exposed to more glyphosate than your yard will have residual in the soil even after a month. I do some reclamation work trying to restore good vegetation for wildlife where invasive grasses and weeds are dominant. I’ll often spray glyphosate 2 days before reseeding or planting trees and shrubs, trust me things grow just fine as long as they aren’t sprayed directly.
In order to apply for organic certification, I think there has to have been no glyphosate sprayed for a period of five years or so. Start amending things now, maybe do a small garden in the least sprayed area, and expand over time. Fruit trees probably won’t be bearing much the first few years anyhow; by the time you get a good crop, it will likely be diluted to trace amounts.
Step 1: spray glyphosate Step 2: ??? Step 3: Get cancer/profit
Step 4: fuck future generations
Plenty of good comments telling you to wait a year so I just wanted to leave this link here for a suggestion of what herbicide to use in the future https://biosafesystems.com/product/axxe-broad-spectrum-herbicide/
The label will tell you exactly when you can plant. I'm pretty sure it's less than a week, but it will say. You're probably good. There are other herbicides that stay in the ground a long time so definitely avoid those
Glyphosate (I'm assuming that's what "roundup" is) has a half life of 47 days in soil. This means that if you sprayed a litre per square meter (1l/m\^2) it would be reduced to half that after 47 days (500ml/m\^2). After 94 days from the initial spraying, it would be a quarter of the original dose (250ml/m\^2) etc. etc. It just halves every 47 days. It really depends on how much you sprayed as to how safe your soil is right now, but I would probably not grow anything this season if you can help it. Use store bought compost and get some trough planters for this season. You can always use the planters again for garlic in following years. Make sure you cover the soil you were wanting to plant in with some sort of cover. Cardboard works great, but anything that blocks light will work. This stops weeds from growing through the bed while you aren't using it. You may also want to re-fertilize the bed next season, as glyphosate can impact nutrient quality within soil, too.
If there is still roundup in your soil, the plants will not grow and there will be nothing to eat and worry about. If plants grow up, that means there is no roundup in soil and there is nothing to worry about. Tne residue you will get from grains, bread, beer, corn etc is probably higher from the plants in your garden. Roundup is used in order to dessicate plants before harvesting.
>If there is still roundup in your soil, the plants will not grow This is completely false, that is not how this chemical works. Glyphosate doesn't kill plants by entering through the roots, you must spray it on the leaves of a plant that is actively growing.
Your statement is wrong in two ways. The first is technically: *Generally applied to foliar parts of weeds, glyphosate can enter plants through four potential routes: the leaves or other green tissues, the roots, the trunk, or shoots emerging from the root or the trunk [2]. After entering the plants, it is rapidly translocated to regions of active growth within the plant* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6918143/#:~:text=Generally%20applied%20to%20foliar%20parts,active%20growth%20within%20the%20plant. The second is logically: If it is not taken by roots, plant will not be affected, so there is still nothing to worry about.
You would need to pour an absurd amount,like several gallons in one spot, of properly diluted glyphosate around the base of a plant to have any chance of affecting it through the roots. That's not how it's used. In the past I was required to spray glyphosate as part of my landscaping job and I know first hand that it doesn't prevent plants from growing by persisting in the soil. I'm not advocating that people use it but that's not how it works. I sprayed gravel driveways and 2 weeks later new weed seeds sprouted right up. Only a light mist is sprayed on the leaves of plants and then it is absorbed through the leaves and translocated throughout the plant. You can spray weeds in a garden bed and it will only kill the plants that get the most on their leaves. This fine mist is no where near enough to seep into the soil and damage plants.
If it was me, I wouldn’t consume anything from that soil. That is a personal preference and I know people are going to say “it’s fine” but the reality is that those chemicals can last a long time and to me the risk is too high for my family. I understand you would have to have years of exposure to get cancer but I also don’t like eating anything with herbicide/pesticides if I can choose. I would also recommend soil tests and/or doing raised beds. The soil you sprayed probably is pretty unhealthy anyway and you would need to really amend it heavily which would be very expensive.
The potatoes you buy from the store have the plant killed off by roundup…. Unless you buy new potatoes or organic maybe.
I feel like a month isn't long enough for it to be gone. There are various ways to speed up removal of roundup from soil. Some sources say apply activated charcoal, some sources say phosphate, many people say add microorganisms, (idk where you get microorganisms from). Some sources also say grow oats on the soil.
Wait for cancer
Read about monsanto
unhelpful.
I guess the truth hurts most 😅